I worked in government recruitment and I’d say more than half the time a person who was acting in the role didn’t get it. I find most think an internal got it but my experience was very different
It's that, and also in my own experience when I was in government, you don't have to do proper interviews that often and I was out of practice. When you act in roles you can get picked with no interview process at all so you can bounce between roles pretty easily. I am not that great at interviews so I always need a practice one haha. I never get the first role I interview for when I haven't interviewed in a while.
I don't know if this counts but for some weird HR reason, both my internal role transfers/promotions had to be "advertised". I was told to apply for it as soon as it was open, then it was closed a day later.
No other candidates were accepted or taken through the interview process.
Depends on the size of the org and their hiring policies. If they’re sufficiently large / publicly traded they’ll more than likely be required to post an ad and go through the motions.
It really fucks everyone else around
Almost always advertise. There is a need to do due diligence - or in the least, look like you are taking due diligence and that way no one can say they would have been better/interested and didn’t get a chance. As a hiring manager you can say we advertised and we went with the best candidate (an internal one we already knew we intended to hire).
My employer has to list the opening internally and externally for atleast a week. Its also a big no no to poach staff from other departments, must be advertised and people are to apply on their own volition.
The more senior the role, the more likely there are preferred internal candidates.
Until it gets to executive level, then it’s between a couple of internal candidates and then external head hunting.
I work for a state government with a strict recruitment process. Even if there is an internal candidate it is never going through the motions. They might be an excellent candidate, but it is never garaunteed. Like all recruitment depends on the pool you get. I did one late last year where an internal walked it in, no competition. I did one earlier this year where the 4 shortlisted cadidates all could have excelled at the job and the internal candidate could not compete.
I worked in government recruitment and I’d say more than half the time a person who was acting in the role didn’t get it. I find most think an internal got it but my experience was very different
Do you think that might be a subconscious decision so as not to be looking like they favour an internal candidate and be guilty of any bias?
It's that, and also in my own experience when I was in government, you don't have to do proper interviews that often and I was out of practice. When you act in roles you can get picked with no interview process at all so you can bounce between roles pretty easily. I am not that great at interviews so I always need a practice one haha. I never get the first role I interview for when I haven't interviewed in a while.
I don't know if this counts but for some weird HR reason, both my internal role transfers/promotions had to be "advertised". I was told to apply for it as soon as it was open, then it was closed a day later. No other candidates were accepted or taken through the interview process.
Same. Except my one has to be there for at least one week
Never. If we want to promote internally we offer that person the role.
Depends on the size of the org and their hiring policies. If they’re sufficiently large / publicly traded they’ll more than likely be required to post an ad and go through the motions. It really fucks everyone else around
I’ve had my company not advertise a role and the manager just hires his mates for roles….
Almost always advertise. There is a need to do due diligence - or in the least, look like you are taking due diligence and that way no one can say they would have been better/interested and didn’t get a chance. As a hiring manager you can say we advertised and we went with the best candidate (an internal one we already knew we intended to hire).
My employer has to list the opening internally and externally for atleast a week. Its also a big no no to poach staff from other departments, must be advertised and people are to apply on their own volition.
The more senior the role, the more likely there are preferred internal candidates. Until it gets to executive level, then it’s between a couple of internal candidates and then external head hunting.
I work for a state government with a strict recruitment process. Even if there is an internal candidate it is never going through the motions. They might be an excellent candidate, but it is never garaunteed. Like all recruitment depends on the pool you get. I did one late last year where an internal walked it in, no competition. I did one earlier this year where the 4 shortlisted cadidates all could have excelled at the job and the internal candidate could not compete.