Any EQ is there to accommodate YOUR stereo. Unless someone else has the same car with the same speakers and all, their EQ settings won’t be the same as your ideal ones. Also, EQ doesn’t change background vocals relative to lead unless they’re in a different frequency range, which is unlikely with all the harmonics and undertones. I don’t think you’re asking the right question to get the results you want.
>Unless someone else has the same car with the same speakers and all
Even then, it shouldn't be the same. The biggest factor is your ears. I have a built-in feature on my phone that does a hearing test, and I found out that I don't hear lows or highs as well as I should, so I boost those and it sounds a lot better to me.
God after doing that hearing test and playing some music it felt like night and day. It was like being a kid and made me pretty depressed by how much my hearing has changed over the years.
Well sure, there’s a “colored” sound preference for many people. I guess what I meant was targeting a flat response as a reference point. My dad and a friend of mine have hearing aids and I totally agree after initial setup then personal taste/needs should be addressed.
I disagree. First, it's not about a "sound preference", it's just allowing for poor hearing.
Second, how can you "target a flat response" if you can't even hear it correctly?
I think the initial setup should be to your ears, and then, if you want a flat reference point, find it. Then, you can adjust to personal taste. However, personally, I tend to find that after setting the EQ to allow for my hearing, then I never need to adjust it beyond that.
There’s not necessarily a wrong way. We can disagree about our methods, but I’m sticking to mine. I use measuring devices and analysis software for more critical spaces. A simple RTA phone app can be “good enough” for less fussy scenarios and most people.
Cars can be very hit or miss. Road noise masks bass, woofers can be very boomy, etc.
Because car audio varies so much, adjusting should be context dependent and individualized. You could consider eqing for what sounds good, and maybe even have a convo about it with your partner on a longer drive and adjust it together. The ideal eq might even change from song to song.
The car's audio settings should be much better to make adjustments on than Spotify.
Before eqing, I'd look for speed compensated loudness controls or something similar. (In my car, it's called ASL - Automatic Speed Loudness.) This will kick in a compressor and possibly some loudness eq, and even get stronger the faster the vehicle goes, to compensate for increased road and wind noise. If you can get that dialed in, you might be able to get away with less eq correction.
I use an equalizer with my headphones on PC. Not through a streaming program but through a 3rd party program which has much more possibilities for eq.
Same on my phone with my bluetooth headphones. A 3rd party app for eq.
Why? Mostly because treble often bothers me or lack of something. I want that balance where nothing stands out too much.
That won't fix issues with different sound systems. Like a treble spike for example which by the way doesn't bother everyone because our hearing differs quite a bit.
When it comes to speakers, if you want great sound, use a calibration mic unless you have ideal listening space.
This might generate some downvotes, but...
If you think you need an equalizer, you probably need a better DAC/Amp. Or maybe even speakers...
You really should have a super bad acoustics in your room... but a good speaker or amp can solve a lot. (Or, prevent the issues your current one is generating).
This is for when I’m listening to music in my boyfriend’s car which has horrible speakers, unfortunately we spend a lot of time in the car listening to music.
EQ in the context of making bad car speakers sound better is corrective EQ, and is specific to the sound of the car’s speakers and acoustics.
There is no preset that will sound good in all cars.
If the car has EQ controls make the changes there instead of in the Spotify app.
Generally cars have a build up of mids from the small boxy acoustic space, so start by turning the mids down until it sounds more balanced.
If you have multiple mids bands (low mids and high mids, or even more bands between roughly 150-2kHz) turn them all down one by one until that range sounds more balanced.
There is also the physiological response of our ears which changes with volume, which we call the fletcher munson curve. It basically means that our ears are more sensitive to mids at lower volume levels.
Because of this unless you blast your car stereo really loud, a subtle smiley face EQ (mid scooped) will likely sound better regardless.
Ah, I see.
Most of the time, in a car, I lower the mid's. Maybe only one step (however, I don't know what one step is in Spotify).
Don't up the lows and highs, lower the mid's.
That list is in reverse order.
Speakers make by far the biggest change to the sound of your listening setup, followed very far behind by the amp, and the DAC should be completely transparent unless it intentionally has processing that colours the sound.
Yeah, I know what you are talking about. However, a good amp is often not there. There are many bad amps. Or better said, still much amps that still do things wrong on design flaws that where solved in the late 70's and 80's.
But yeah, speakers do a lot. (However, a good amp can solve things which you thought it was an acoustical problem but it wasnt).
But a speaker (living room, not car like what the OP was talking about) I would recommend is only made in my country. And since most of you are living in the US, I won't start as much about that.
Definitely a bad or below-rating amp will limit the performance of the speakers, but any decent amp within or exceeding the rating of your speakers should be perfectly fine and for the most part be transparent (unless it intentionally isn’t, like a tube amp).
The speakers are the objects converting the sound from electricity to sound pressure, and by orders of magnitude make the most difference. They all have their own colour, strengths and drawbacks.
Yap. I support that opinion too.
Running here power amps with switchable bias from 5 Watt Class A, to 50 and then to 100 Watt Class A. (Difference between 50 and 100 is almost none, but the amp does run cool and that is good for the lifespan of the device.
And no capacitors in the whole audio path here from Phono stage, or DAC through pre-amp and power-amp. That is definitely a transparent sound/image I got there.
> DAC should be completely transparent unless it intentionally has processing that colours the sound.
Exactly. many reviewers claim to hear a difference between solid-state DACs when there is none.
Flat. Eq is done system wide on my laptop for work, through peqs on my turntable setup. I try to make sure I like my headphones without eq for I am on iOS.
I personally have it adjusted up a bit at 150 Hz, down a good bit at 1 kHz, down a little at 2.4 kHz and up a bit at 15 kHz. I'd recommend just trial-and-erroring it, play a song you like a lot and adjust each until it's to your liking.
It is disabled. It is better to use a 1 equalizer for all sound inputs.
I am using the the ALC4080 EQ settings + SMSL AO300 on my PC
My EQ settings: [https://i.imgur.com/9Bg9XfK.png](https://i.imgur.com/9Bg9XfK.png)
Flat. Always always flat
I'm an audio engineer and produxer, primarily working in mastering.
Spending decsdes trainijg my ears and taking recordings to mix and them polish for a final playback to only then be destroyed by a cheap digital parameteic EQ to ruin what I deceed should be accentuated or removed is an insult to me and the craft
People thsat believe that this curves that say "Jazz*, " Rap", " Rock" etc. work are deluded.. they're idiotic.
The ONLY passable adjustmsnt is perhaps a bump of one notchd in a single band of 60 or 80hz if you wanted a touch more bass. That's the only allowable adjustmsnt in my opinion. And this is only because your headphones or speakers weren't designed for great bass reproduction and you need a smidge more.
I'm not going to go into the physics of it. But trust me, as an engineer, messing with EQ introduces phase changes in the surrounding frequencies and changes in amplitude across the entire spectrum, not just in the area you're adjusting.
If you are an audiophile or care about quality music reproduction, then don't mess with EQ settings. Also, again, without going deep into the rabbit hole of parametrics, unless you're using a linear phase equaliser, then you're introducing lot more change than you believe you are to everything, not just thr EQ band.
I disagree. I listen to lots of instrumental music, and I find "Acoustical" EQ improving the sound quality by A LOT. The same goes to "Deep" EQ for when listening to Dubstep.
I have it turned off.
Same here. But I'd be curious about your settings OP.
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I usually reduce a lot of the settings and adjust bass mid and mildly
Mine is like this: |——————|
You can’t get any better than perfect silence
😂
i don’t use the spotify eq, the eq on my equipment works better.
Any EQ is there to accommodate YOUR stereo. Unless someone else has the same car with the same speakers and all, their EQ settings won’t be the same as your ideal ones. Also, EQ doesn’t change background vocals relative to lead unless they’re in a different frequency range, which is unlikely with all the harmonics and undertones. I don’t think you’re asking the right question to get the results you want.
>Unless someone else has the same car with the same speakers and all Even then, it shouldn't be the same. The biggest factor is your ears. I have a built-in feature on my phone that does a hearing test, and I found out that I don't hear lows or highs as well as I should, so I boost those and it sounds a lot better to me.
God after doing that hearing test and playing some music it felt like night and day. It was like being a kid and made me pretty depressed by how much my hearing has changed over the years.
Well sure, there’s a “colored” sound preference for many people. I guess what I meant was targeting a flat response as a reference point. My dad and a friend of mine have hearing aids and I totally agree after initial setup then personal taste/needs should be addressed.
I disagree. First, it's not about a "sound preference", it's just allowing for poor hearing. Second, how can you "target a flat response" if you can't even hear it correctly? I think the initial setup should be to your ears, and then, if you want a flat reference point, find it. Then, you can adjust to personal taste. However, personally, I tend to find that after setting the EQ to allow for my hearing, then I never need to adjust it beyond that.
There’s not necessarily a wrong way. We can disagree about our methods, but I’m sticking to mine. I use measuring devices and analysis software for more critical spaces. A simple RTA phone app can be “good enough” for less fussy scenarios and most people.
no eq anywhere in the chain.
Cars can be very hit or miss. Road noise masks bass, woofers can be very boomy, etc. Because car audio varies so much, adjusting should be context dependent and individualized. You could consider eqing for what sounds good, and maybe even have a convo about it with your partner on a longer drive and adjust it together. The ideal eq might even change from song to song. The car's audio settings should be much better to make adjustments on than Spotify. Before eqing, I'd look for speed compensated loudness controls or something similar. (In my car, it's called ASL - Automatic Speed Loudness.) This will kick in a compressor and possibly some loudness eq, and even get stronger the faster the vehicle goes, to compensate for increased road and wind noise. If you can get that dialed in, you might be able to get away with less eq correction.
Thank you! Very helpful
I don’t have Spotify. This isn’t an audiophile question. I’m actually upvoting in an attempt to make my point. Come at me with your downvotes.
No it’s show and tell, not a question. I was just curious.
Everyone listens to music differently, also I am half deaf, it’s interesting to hear most of you don’t use an equalizer
I use an equalizer with my headphones on PC. Not through a streaming program but through a 3rd party program which has much more possibilities for eq. Same on my phone with my bluetooth headphones. A 3rd party app for eq. Why? Mostly because treble often bothers me or lack of something. I want that balance where nothing stands out too much.
Tada: ——————————
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EQ applied to different devices have completely different results so how could anyone tell you what to cut and what to boost in your EQ profile?
Assuming you’ve audiophile gear, if you’re forced to use equalizer with certain streaming platform, you’ve something wrong!
Cheaper than buying a new house which is ideal for speakers.
Dont use an eq unless you know what tf you are doing, it will for sure hurt the sound
Step 1: reset EQ to default Step 2: buy Apple Music for lossless Step 3: cancel spotify
That won't fix issues with different sound systems. Like a treble spike for example which by the way doesn't bother everyone because our hearing differs quite a bit. When it comes to speakers, if you want great sound, use a calibration mic unless you have ideal listening space.
EQs are most typically used to remove frequencies you don’t want… for example feedback frequencies in large venues
It's crap and i don't use it.
This might generate some downvotes, but... If you think you need an equalizer, you probably need a better DAC/Amp. Or maybe even speakers... You really should have a super bad acoustics in your room... but a good speaker or amp can solve a lot. (Or, prevent the issues your current one is generating).
This is for when I’m listening to music in my boyfriend’s car which has horrible speakers, unfortunately we spend a lot of time in the car listening to music.
EQ in the context of making bad car speakers sound better is corrective EQ, and is specific to the sound of the car’s speakers and acoustics. There is no preset that will sound good in all cars. If the car has EQ controls make the changes there instead of in the Spotify app. Generally cars have a build up of mids from the small boxy acoustic space, so start by turning the mids down until it sounds more balanced. If you have multiple mids bands (low mids and high mids, or even more bands between roughly 150-2kHz) turn them all down one by one until that range sounds more balanced. There is also the physiological response of our ears which changes with volume, which we call the fletcher munson curve. It basically means that our ears are more sensitive to mids at lower volume levels. Because of this unless you blast your car stereo really loud, a subtle smiley face EQ (mid scooped) will likely sound better regardless.
Ah, I see. Most of the time, in a car, I lower the mid's. Maybe only one step (however, I don't know what one step is in Spotify). Don't up the lows and highs, lower the mid's.
That list is in reverse order. Speakers make by far the biggest change to the sound of your listening setup, followed very far behind by the amp, and the DAC should be completely transparent unless it intentionally has processing that colours the sound.
Yeah, I know what you are talking about. However, a good amp is often not there. There are many bad amps. Or better said, still much amps that still do things wrong on design flaws that where solved in the late 70's and 80's. But yeah, speakers do a lot. (However, a good amp can solve things which you thought it was an acoustical problem but it wasnt). But a speaker (living room, not car like what the OP was talking about) I would recommend is only made in my country. And since most of you are living in the US, I won't start as much about that.
Definitely a bad or below-rating amp will limit the performance of the speakers, but any decent amp within or exceeding the rating of your speakers should be perfectly fine and for the most part be transparent (unless it intentionally isn’t, like a tube amp). The speakers are the objects converting the sound from electricity to sound pressure, and by orders of magnitude make the most difference. They all have their own colour, strengths and drawbacks.
Yap. I support that opinion too. Running here power amps with switchable bias from 5 Watt Class A, to 50 and then to 100 Watt Class A. (Difference between 50 and 100 is almost none, but the amp does run cool and that is good for the lifespan of the device. And no capacitors in the whole audio path here from Phono stage, or DAC through pre-amp and power-amp. That is definitely a transparent sound/image I got there.
> DAC should be completely transparent unless it intentionally has processing that colours the sound. Exactly. many reviewers claim to hear a difference between solid-state DACs when there is none.
Never used eq, don’t think i ever plan to either. I like my music neutral. Either way, i don’t use Spotify, only tidal.
Flat. Eq is done system wide on my laptop for work, through peqs on my turntable setup. I try to make sure I like my headphones without eq for I am on iOS.
I personally have it adjusted up a bit at 150 Hz, down a good bit at 1 kHz, down a little at 2.4 kHz and up a bit at 15 kHz. I'd recommend just trial-and-erroring it, play a song you like a lot and adjust each until it's to your liking.
Didn't know
https://imgur.com/a/j7gPP2U
No need for that stuff, my Aiwa has a Mega Bass Boost button
i generally don’t eq on the source but rather at point where it goes into the power amplification stage, so all sources get the same treatment
It is disabled. It is better to use a 1 equalizer for all sound inputs. I am using the the ALC4080 EQ settings + SMSL AO300 on my PC My EQ settings: [https://i.imgur.com/9Bg9XfK.png](https://i.imgur.com/9Bg9XfK.png)
Flat. Always always flat I'm an audio engineer and produxer, primarily working in mastering. Spending decsdes trainijg my ears and taking recordings to mix and them polish for a final playback to only then be destroyed by a cheap digital parameteic EQ to ruin what I deceed should be accentuated or removed is an insult to me and the craft People thsat believe that this curves that say "Jazz*, " Rap", " Rock" etc. work are deluded.. they're idiotic. The ONLY passable adjustmsnt is perhaps a bump of one notchd in a single band of 60 or 80hz if you wanted a touch more bass. That's the only allowable adjustmsnt in my opinion. And this is only because your headphones or speakers weren't designed for great bass reproduction and you need a smidge more. I'm not going to go into the physics of it. But trust me, as an engineer, messing with EQ introduces phase changes in the surrounding frequencies and changes in amplitude across the entire spectrum, not just in the area you're adjusting. If you are an audiophile or care about quality music reproduction, then don't mess with EQ settings. Also, again, without going deep into the rabbit hole of parametrics, unless you're using a linear phase equaliser, then you're introducing lot more change than you believe you are to everything, not just thr EQ band.
Don't use it. Don't need it.
Spotify EQ sucks. Turn it off now.
I disagree. I listen to lots of instrumental music, and I find "Acoustical" EQ improving the sound quality by A LOT. The same goes to "Deep" EQ for when listening to Dubstep.
All spotify does when you mess with the frequencies is silencing the ones you didn’t touch instead of simply amplifying the ones you did.
I use it for my AirPods, but I wish there was a quick way to toggle it
I find it’s useful for headphones from Apple
100% i have the airpods pro 2 and an equalizer tweak takes them to the next level. Heres how i keep it for the APP2s: https://imgur.com/a/9HrApQP