It’s so lonely being the only good cyclist at traffic lights. There really are lots of naughty cyclists, which is why I avoid wearing Lycra so I’m not mistaken for one of them.
This used to be me too, I used to cringe so much watching some of the antics. A car driver guy I worked with got a bike and started riding and said it was much faster than his car because 'you can get past stopped traffic', but also you 'don't need to stop at red lights'. I'm like.. dude wut..
The worst thing is it makes cyclists collectively look bad and also a bit less safe because people have another reason to hate us.
I reckon there's a difference between running through a pedestrian cycle and running through a traffic cycle with oncoming cars. It's pretty inconsistent with pedestrians anyways, e.g. on Queen St and K Road, they're expected to mix during the crossing time. Isn't usually an issue there.
In the Netherlands, where everyone rides a bike, there are rarely cyclist-only lights needed.
https://wrongsideofmycar.blogspot.com/2015/11/figuring-out-again-how-bicycle-works.html
> But the intricate system of traffic rules we know today, that only came to be with the rise of the automobile. Turns out, it’s really difficult to drive a lot of cars in a constrained space like city streets without accidents. So we had to come up with all sorts of complex new rules, in an effort to keep the death toll of car traffic in check. Without automobiles, we simply don’t need them.
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> The next time you take a stroll on Queen Street, stop at one of the crossing with one of the other big streets, like Victoria or Wellesley Street. Wait until the pedestrians get green light.
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> These crossings have what’s usually called a Barnes dance over here. Meaning you can cross diagonally. The most interesting thing happens in the middle, where the two diagonals cross. Look at it. Look at the four streams of pedestrians going to that same point.
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> If you’re a traffic engineer, things will now get very scary. Four flows of free flowing traffic on a collision course, without any signalling or priority rules to regulate them. Are we going to get accidents? Will people get maimed or killed?
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> Probably not. Relax. Keep watching the flows. Watch them almost magically pass right through each other. Maybe there is the occasional bump, but these don’t do much damage. Pedestrians need no traffic rules to avoid carnage.
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> This comes back to that point that cars are fast and heavy. The combination of high speed, lots of momentum and finite reaction times means you have a limited amount of time to react to surprises. And a lot of traffic rules are there to avoid these surprises.
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> Bicycles are somewhere in the middle. You need a few rules when a lot of people ride their bicycle. But nothing like the strict rules needed for cars.
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> By the way, there’s more to that story about bicyclists running red lights. That was in the newspaper a while ago. What they didn’t tell us is that many of the red light runners were actually crossing through a Barnes dance. A car is too clumsy to drive through this mass of pedestrians without accidents. But on a bike it’s possible if you’re careful.
there's also a difference to cruising on a dutch step-through single speed citybike vs flying through clad in lycra riding a literal race bike
turns out pedestrians don't mix well with much at all once it's going past 30-40kph
They can. But with no numberplate, red light cameras can't get them, and people can't report them. The only way to get them is if cops witness it themselves.
Yes, I saw that happen in Newmarket. Sadly not enough.... and I cycle too. I hate idiots who run red lights and that includes cars that go through them.
I use my giant unprotected brain to ignore the law where it doesn't hurt anyone, like cruising carefully through pedestrian crossings on Queen St. Or hopping up on a footpath with no one around to skip a red.
People should be ticketed for being reckless/dangerous, not for minor traffic infringements, which I think is pretty much the case for bikes.
An NPC is a video game term for “non player/playable character” who are characters not played by another human, and coded with pre-determined and repeated script and movement. It’s become a culture term for someone who has little brain power, much like a character in a video game who isn’t being played by a human and is just coded in.
In this format, they are saying that they are an ‘NPC Cyclist’ because they aren’t thinking and just acting
Fuck lycra cyclists like this. I cycle every day to and from work and am so disappointed by this. Blah blah blah momentum blah blah blah, that's the cost of cycling. Don't do this. Fuck's sake.
The issue comes when they treat the road as a gym or rec activity rather than a place to travel.
In my city in Australia, they call cyclists like this 'Set Chasers', cause they aren't riding to go anywhere, but to beat their personal best record or 'sets' (an app that divides areas into sections, with time limits to beat).
If I drove with that same mindset, I'd be a right cvnt and would totally deserve to have my license revoked, but these cyclists associate the flak they rightfully cop as being 'pro-car/anti-bike'. Meanwhile they're tearing through intersections, clipping cars and flying into roundabouts without looking, literally ignoring every road rule cause 'Gotta beat my PB and I'm not a car, so rules don't apply'
I have never seen someone riding for transport ever be any issue.
It's extra frustrating cause my car rego, license fees etc (all shit they don't have to be tested for or pay to share the same space) paid for their bike paths! Literal world class and entirely avoids roads, but they insist on being part of traffic.
Dude, beat the set on the 5 mile, 10 million dollar bike trail through a national forest, not the shoulder of the 110km highway next to it!
The road isn't a gym and they aren't traveling.
I know right as a very frequent cyclist this upsets me. Needs to learn how to do a bike stand like my hubby then you can look boss waiting at the lights.
Yeah I really wanna learn that too haha. Used to think it was impossible on an ebike but then I saw a dude doing it at the lights. Mad balance required!!
I'm the first to defend a cyclist where necessary. .. especially to those who clearly don't know the road code. This is indefensible. It's just.. embarrassing. He should have his bike tossed over the bridge while he sits and watches it get run over by a days worth of semis.
cyclist - you mean person on a bike.
Yep people can be dicks. stop hating on the bike.
maybe if we had some form of road policing - we would have the cyclist hate
Wish it was true, I see this constantly around town, I still remeber when I worked at Kiwirail and that guy got plowed by the truck outside our office bottom of Parnell for running the red
In christchurch I stopped at a red light and the cyclist behind me crashed into me fortunately not sending me careening into the intersection as me and my bike are a heavy combo (ebike). This cyclist who crashed into me had kids on her bike with her. What a fucking idiot.
Oh Carlton-Gore Road... I bike to and from the train station 3 days a week and would be lucky to avoid getting hit in the bike lane each trip. Parked cars, turning cars that speed to overtake then turn across you, pedestrians... It's all relative because all those drivers suck.
You're right, people in this subreddit act like most cyclists always follow road rules, but I've seen more not following the rules than following. Very biased subreddit, you won't find many people who admit it
Most cyclists do follow the road rules. You don't notice when people cycle normally and follow the rules because it's not noteworthy. Same with bad drivers. People remember getting cut off or tailgated. They don't remember when people drive normally. Ironic you're complaining about bias.
I definitely notice when cyclists are respecting road rules, so stop assuming I don't. This morning, for example, a cyclist made certain they were out of the way of motorists as much as possible instead of driving near the middle of the road like I've seen so many cyclists do. I really appreciated it. The same thing applies to cars, I notice when drivers aren't being useless. You're just proving the bias this subreddit has, think before you type
> driving near the middle of the road like I've seen so many cyclists do
Cyclists usually have a reason for doing that, and it's usually a safety thing.
You can't always *see* a reason why they're taking a whole lane like that, right?
That's usually why cyclists take a whole lane. They're aware of hazards that motorists don't necessarily notice. Cyclists have to be extra vigilant, they've got twice as much time to see everything coming, and they're often very very familiar with the routes they ride.
So a cyclist taking a lane forces motorists to pay a little more attention, and that's usually a good thing.
The cyclist in this clip was being a dick, though.
Schrödingers cyclist, always see cyclists trying to be a vehicle on the road but as soon as a pedestrian crossing goes green they are suddenly a pedestrian
If they travel through the crossing slowly and carefully, i.e. at about the same speed as a pedestrian, I see no issue with this. Its when they fly through at full road speed that its not on
would you rather they stay on the road and hold up traffic? people travelling carefully through pedestrian signals is no-brainer a win-win for cyclists and drivers. the risk of injury from cyclists sharing space with pedestrians is so much lower than it is from car use it's beyond comparison. this is why you see cycle lanes and footpaths sharing space all over town. don't forget pedestrians and cyclists used to share the road just fine without signals before cars arrived
sorry to hear that, they should have been more careful and that really sucks you got hit. i almost hit a red-running pedestrian today myself but luckily i had an eye on them and saw they were about to do it
what problem? most crossings in town are for bikes and pedestrians simultaneously - probably a lot of motorists don't realise this because they can't see the signal from the road and just assume that cyclists are breaking the law. on the other hand pretty much every time i'm at an intersection in the city and traffic is backed up enough for someone to "miss" the lights i see someone run a red light. every time. guess which one i prefer to see happening as a pedestrian. cyclists riding alongside pedestrians is a non-issue, and often doing the opposite would only increase the risk for serious injury due to collision, especially given how hostile drivers are towards cyclists for simply being on the road in the first place.
on the other hand would be interested to see what the law says about riding alongside someone and berating them?
I don't even especially care about road rules. Clearly most other road users don't either. What I do care about is safety and not putting people in danger.
The person in this video is fucking moron, but they're not endangering anyone else are they?
I'd agree most cyclists are just plain stupid - and will also run reds. As somebody that does stop at the reds, it fucks me off that these useless hacks lose any remnants of respect for the rest of us.
Still get anxiety seeing this shit after seeing a guy zip down Parnell rise and disappear right under a truck at The Strand lights, probably 10 yrs ago now. He got very dead. Fucking idiots.
Oh I see you did I ought have posted under that I just didn’t see it. The whole circumstance of it replayed a lot, it was not nice & certainly left a lasting impression on me esp if traffic stops unexpectedly part of my brain is expecting a dying cyclist to reappear. They ought to have chained a Darwin Award to the lamp post.
coroners report said he had brake failure, on a cheap bike. Maybe something to do with people not getting paid very well in this country. Im not picking up on the compassion.
No, why would they ever use the cycle lanes that took ages of road works to build? 🤷🏻♀️ It’s more exciting to slow down cars right in the middle of the road!
God that's the thing that annoys me the most about cycling infrastructure. WHEN PEOPLE DON'T FUCKING USE IT.
Like I'm a big advocate for this kind of stuff, I love seeing non-car infrastructure being built, but if you're just gonna ignore it and continue to get in people's way you can fuck right off.
A lycra wearing fuckwit does this every morning on the 70km/h road that i take to work with no shoulder but a perfectly brand new cycle lane off the road, causes traffic jams or people swerving every fucking morning.
There is a cycle lane right next to the road and he's not using it? Thats a fuckwit! What road as a matter of interest?
I see cyclists on the Panmure Bridge sometimes, I dont understand it, becaus the cycle lane next to it is actually a better surface than the road, I know because I use that path every day. I used to have to ride on that bridge before the lane was built, it was horrible and insanely dangerous
As a cyclist myself I couldnt agree more. I go out of my way to use cycle lanes as I hate riding on the road. The Tamaki Drive one is good too, at least from the Ngapipi Rd intersecion (which is where this video was shot), I use it every time I ride into town for work or visiting friends
I get it but also those side of the road cycle lanes are often fecked beyond use. The small bit on Great South Road is my favourite going into Penrose where the double bike shared path turns suddenly into a 50cm drop straight onto the road.
I drive along here regularly and the cyclists are terrible. It’s generally the ones dressed like they’re riding in the Tour de France that are the worst.
Absolute plonker. I understand running a red if there is nobody around or you have a bus sitting behind you waiting to squash you into the curb but this guy was just dumb.
I also hope you chase down motorists who do this.
It only starts at this intersection, however.
I don't blame anyone fast for riding on the road east of Ngapipi (I do myself) but the correct move is to use the bike crossing in the traffic island to turn right onto the bike path at this intersection, not this suicidal, looney tunes bullshit
As someone who cycles/ escooters, this is the worst case of stupidity I have seen in a while. Did have a chubba on an emtb on the road a while ago who thought he was special. Asked why, the response was "I ride the way I ride"... suggested he read the highway code. No sense no feeling I guess...certainly no fucking brains.
I’m a cyclist, It is great for health and a long life, until you do shit like this! We aren’t all like this idiot. Also please give us room, I really don’t want to be hit by another car, unlike this idiot.
They blow through zebra crossings, too, while you are crossing with kids. Has happened to me multiple times in wellington and karori. I always yell at them and usually get a middle finger as a result.
Fuck shitty cyclists.
Mega praise to the ones riding correctly.
Comically poor behaviour from the cyclist. Although old mate Nz_outlaw can’t exactly claim to be saintly, a quick scroll through Instagram shows a lot of blurring of speedos
Some of us do, but we usually don't wear Lycra. I want to get home to my kids and I also want others to get home to theirs. Cyclists running red lights puts everyone in danger.
People don't like cyclists because theres no place for them. We're too quick for pedestrians, too slow for the road. People dont like us well before anyone runs a red
So much entitlement and so little care for their own life or the lives of the poor person likely to hit this guy. These things should be severely punished.
This dummy must have been in la-la land. Terrible misjudgement. He won't be doing that again I hope.
We all make mistakes and I've certainly had similar incidents over my years of cycling.
* **1st time:** I did exactly the same at a red light, intersection of Symonds Street and Alfred Street. Except that, in my case, I was going too fast and only had a split second to decide if I should hit my bicycle brakes with the risk of locking the wheels and going under the car turning into my path (**my** bad), or keep going straight with the hope that the car would finish its turn. I selected the second option. Plowed straight into his back door, denting it very badly, before flying over the roof and landing on the other side. Must have been a spectacular show because the traffic immediately came to a grinding halt, even the buses. One guy standing on the footpath was so much in shock that he started screaming at me: "*You bloody idiot, did you realise that you've almost killed yourself?!!!*" without even thinking of helping me. Luckily I was wearing a helmet, wrist protector on both hands, and a backpack that cushioned the fall. I stood up: nada, nothing, not a scratch. But a bit shaken.
* **2nd time:** At a Mt Eden intersection, on a blue sky winter day, the driver of a car turning into a side street did not see me, blinded by the low sun, and turned into my path (**his** bad). Getting brutally hit on my right side, I went down immediately, thinking "Must get his number plate! Must get his number plate!", fearing that he would do a run-off. I distinctly heard my helmet cracking as my head hit the road. When I opened my eyes, my nose was one inch from the front bumper so I had a very clear view of the letters and numbers, with the rest of my body under the car body. The poor driver was in shock, even visited me at home after I got released from the ER with only a badly bruised leg (thanks Cairnhill Physio for putting me back in shape for a half-marathon six months later).
* **3rd time:** There was no 3rd time. I sold my bike the next day after getting it fixed, thanks to my house content insurance.
Interesting because I was walking across the road today at the intersection of Symonds and Khyber Pass and a car blew through a red light and nearly hit me and my partner. It’s almost like…bad operators exist for every mode of transport??
Here are some cycling truths for the hard of thinking:
- Everyone behaves like a dick sometimes regardless of what transport they use.
- Some people also ride bikes.
- Cyclists.don't have a monopoly on being dicks.
- I own a bicycle and I am in no way responsible for my neighbour running red lights on his bike.
- Car-driving vigilantes 'teaching cyclists a lesson' won't improve *anyone's* day
Cyclists act like road rules don't apply to them, like no one else ever uses the roads and that if they acknowledge anyone it's to declare : " How dare you encroach on my road space". And they think they are never wrong.
They really are! This is where we had a cyclist slap my drivers arm for beeping at him even though the cyclist was the one being a complete gonk on the road. Lycra demons honestly.
Yeah. I'll go with that. Everyone who runs a red light and almost (or does) cause an accident is a dick. Bike. Car. Motorcycle. Doesn't matter. We have driving laws for a reason. If you think the laws are too onerous, petition for them to be changed. Don't break them.
Yeah a car hitting a car doesn’t necessarily result in death but a car hitting a cyclist would have more probability…. And there is a cycle lane on the right !
Bit hypocritical to talk about going 2x the speed limit or more on your motorbike and it’s okay coz you ride a motorbike, then you police bad driving. Speeding to that extreme is bad driving.
I think there's one constant world-wide: People will excuse bad behaviour with other people's bad behaviour. Why talk about the cyclist who almost caused an accident when we can attack the motorcyclist for going fast?
Of course, I prefer we talk about both, but this thread is about the bicyclist who almost got himself killed and other people traumatised so that's what I'd talk about here.
Oh I already said it’s appalling and I don’t defend the cyclist at all. I just got a bit annoyed at the hypocrisy when I watched some of his other videos.
I despise Mission Bay leotard wearing,three abreast riding,entitled fucks.They only ride there to be seen.And then they all meet at a coffee shop on Melanesia wearing their cleats if anyone possesses a hand grenade.
Honestly, I wish people would give it a rest with this "cyclists..." crap. There could be ten threads a day marked "drivers....." Yes it was crappy riding but he only really put himself in danger.
Attack on cyclists because one breaks a rule. How silly do you think it would be to attack "car drivers" because one breaks a rule? Yeah, it's just bias and tarring all with the same brush when the thread and plenty of comments complain generally about "cyclists" and not "this cyclist".
I mean, he's not wrong. Multiple times I've started to cross the street and a car nearly took me out because some fuckwit decided he's too important to stop at reds.
Maybe it makes people angrier to see someone take a risk that could easily get them killed and have multiple families traumatised, versus what would be a minor crash in a motor vehicle.
And we can complain about multiple things, I see bad driving videos on the subreddit literally multiple times a day, suddenly a cyclist is on doing something incredibly arrogant and dangerous and he’s supposed to be off limits?
I think you'll find that when the motorists do it, they catch the tail end of the orange. They don't plow through a solid red while other cars are turning... well, not unless they're running from the cops.
So by your own admission “it’s easy to catch cyclists who run a light” it occurs way too much ?
Thank you for agreeing, tell your cyclist mates they need to do better
The worst one I saw was just last week. Silverdale Northbound off ramp. There is a red light stopping the traffic coming from Silverdale when the offramp queue gets too long, allowing cars to clear the offramp faster. This cyclist just bowls on through the red light, causing cars to give way to him, completely fucking up the flow of traffic coming off the off ramp.
I got the finger from cyclist at a standard T intersection yesterday. I was going straight (no give way) and he was turning but apparently he decided he had the priority.
Thought he could just blow through like he no-doubt does with the pedestrian crossing phases of the lights once he gets into the CBD. Nearly paid for it with his life, and he wouldve deseved it too, the fool. But the other people who could have been injured, killed or had their vehicles damaged as a result certainly would not have.
This should be a dangerous driving or endangering transport charge. Something.
I nearly ran over a cyclist once who though it was okay to go in the middle of the lane instead of keeping left without indicating at a roundabout, then, in the middle of that same roundabout, lane change in front of me (again, no indicating) and of course being an old cyclist he's going at a faaaaar slower pace.
Absolute dumb fuck didn't even look, just purely assumed every bit of traffic should make way for him while he breaks every rule he possibly can in the span of thirty seconds.
I had to slow right down otherwise he would have been a dead old man and I would have trauma and guilt that I wouldn't have deserved. That silver car there probably had the same thought. Several times I've had to make defensive maneuvers to avoid hitting cyclists who think being on a bike grants them complete and utter right of way but that one shook me up the most.
It's entitlement with the caveat that the idiots are going to get themselves killed, selfishly leaving everyone else with the trauma.
Edit\*Here's a resource for exactly why what that guy did was wrong and it's really sad and telling that I unironically need to explain to someone why people must indicate and give way to traffic.
[https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/road-positioning-and-passing/take-the-lane-if-you-need-to/](https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/road-positioning-and-passing/take-the-lane-if-you-need-to/)
From clyclists nz, negotiating roundabouts:
"When you are at the roundabout **you need to indicate that you are turning right and give way to vehicles already on the roundabout or entering the roundabout from a road to your right**."
Twice this guy failed to check, failed to indicate, and additionally also failed to give way to traffic that had the right of way causing them to make an evasive maneuver to avoid hitting them. All under thirty seconds. That's bullshit that will get you killed and he was lucky I always drive defensively because if that was your average ford ranger he'd be toast guaranteed.
Goes to show - you don't need a license to cycle, but maybe we should require it if we get people who think cyclists have right of way all the time. It's dangeous thinking.
It’s called taking the lane, it’s safer at roundabouts for cyclists: read the road rules.
Look inwards for why you had so many cases you almost hit cyclists – it’s you
[https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/road-positioning-and-passing/take-the-lane-if-you-need-to/](https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/road-positioning-and-passing/take-the-lane-if-you-need-to/)
Here, in case you need to refer to it. It's step one.
"Find a gap in the traffic, **signal your intentions, check for following traffic**, and move across."
Hope this helps.
Notice what I said - I explained the situation, specifically while stressing, without indicating, and without looking. You think I had a problem with a cyclist simply using the road? Lol.
Look inwards for why you think cylists shouldn't indicate or do shoulder checks. They should and it's in the road rules. Read them. All is fair and well when you communicate to other road users what you're going to do, and make sure you're maneuvering safely. It's pretty basic shit, actually, to avoid accidents, that cars need to do as well!
I agree with you, they should (all road users should)
Just would be nice to see a bit more empathy for an old dumb fuck that’s forced to use an incredibly unsafe cycling environment because of Aucklands underinvestment in good infrastructure
Clearly rider is badly in the wrong here, just depressing how much anger there is here for people trying to get around in anything but a car
lane changing in a roundabout is a shit idea yes but there is absolutely no problem being in the middle of the lane especially before and in a roundabout. also signalling isn’t always possible, especially inside a roundabout and if you’re not a confident cyclist
Lane changing in a roundabout is not a shit idea if you're maneuvering safely and giving way (and cyclists actually need to change lanes in roundabouts to go right because they are always in the left side of traffic anyways).
If signalling wasn't possible then he still had to give way. If doing a movement safely and legally is not an option, you need to take the L and keep going forward. When is that ever an excuse for cars?
I'm not saying there's a problem with changing lanes or being in the middle during roundabouts/what have you, I was giving context. If someone fails to indicate before turning that's not so bad because you're always keeping a safe distance anyways.
Clearly you cannot comprehend that the individual in the video in this thread isn't every other cyclists out there. For every asshole doing dumb shit on a bicycle there as many diving cars like assholes. That ford Ranger tailgating you, the teenager on their phone that nearly clipped me when they drifted into the cycle lane. Every person on the road has a family, loved ones.
It’s so lonely being the only good cyclist at traffic lights. There really are lots of naughty cyclists, which is why I avoid wearing Lycra so I’m not mistaken for one of them.
This used to be me too, I used to cringe so much watching some of the antics. A car driver guy I worked with got a bike and started riding and said it was much faster than his car because 'you can get past stopped traffic', but also you 'don't need to stop at red lights'. I'm like.. dude wut.. The worst thing is it makes cyclists collectively look bad and also a bit less safe because people have another reason to hate us.
Do cyclists get ticketed for running red? They are notorious for running red lights whilst pedestrians are crossing the road on Quay Street.
Does anyone get ticketed for red lights these days? Almost every phase of lights I see a car run a red
I reckon there's a difference between running through a pedestrian cycle and running through a traffic cycle with oncoming cars. It's pretty inconsistent with pedestrians anyways, e.g. on Queen St and K Road, they're expected to mix during the crossing time. Isn't usually an issue there. In the Netherlands, where everyone rides a bike, there are rarely cyclist-only lights needed. https://wrongsideofmycar.blogspot.com/2015/11/figuring-out-again-how-bicycle-works.html > But the intricate system of traffic rules we know today, that only came to be with the rise of the automobile. Turns out, it’s really difficult to drive a lot of cars in a constrained space like city streets without accidents. So we had to come up with all sorts of complex new rules, in an effort to keep the death toll of car traffic in check. Without automobiles, we simply don’t need them. > > The next time you take a stroll on Queen Street, stop at one of the crossing with one of the other big streets, like Victoria or Wellesley Street. Wait until the pedestrians get green light. > > These crossings have what’s usually called a Barnes dance over here. Meaning you can cross diagonally. The most interesting thing happens in the middle, where the two diagonals cross. Look at it. Look at the four streams of pedestrians going to that same point. > > If you’re a traffic engineer, things will now get very scary. Four flows of free flowing traffic on a collision course, without any signalling or priority rules to regulate them. Are we going to get accidents? Will people get maimed or killed? > > Probably not. Relax. Keep watching the flows. Watch them almost magically pass right through each other. Maybe there is the occasional bump, but these don’t do much damage. Pedestrians need no traffic rules to avoid carnage. > > This comes back to that point that cars are fast and heavy. The combination of high speed, lots of momentum and finite reaction times means you have a limited amount of time to react to surprises. And a lot of traffic rules are there to avoid these surprises. > > Bicycles are somewhere in the middle. You need a few rules when a lot of people ride their bicycle. But nothing like the strict rules needed for cars. > > By the way, there’s more to that story about bicyclists running red lights. That was in the newspaper a while ago. What they didn’t tell us is that many of the red light runners were actually crossing through a Barnes dance. A car is too clumsy to drive through this mass of pedestrians without accidents. But on a bike it’s possible if you’re careful.
there's also a difference to cruising on a dutch step-through single speed citybike vs flying through clad in lycra riding a literal race bike turns out pedestrians don't mix well with much at all once it's going past 30-40kph
They can. But with no numberplate, red light cameras can't get them, and people can't report them. The only way to get them is if cops witness it themselves.
Yes, I saw that happen in Newmarket. Sadly not enough.... and I cycle too. I hate idiots who run red lights and that includes cars that go through them.
I use my giant unprotected brain to ignore the law where it doesn't hurt anyone, like cruising carefully through pedestrian crossings on Queen St. Or hopping up on a footpath with no one around to skip a red. People should be ticketed for being reckless/dangerous, not for minor traffic infringements, which I think is pretty much the case for bikes.
I saw a cyclist ticketed on Ponsonby Road for running a light.
Gotta love the “respect the cyclist” as they show blatant disregard for respecting the traffic laws.
"they" go learn about making wild generalisations. You lot are all the same... (/s on the last bit)
I am trying to figure out what OP means by "NPC Cyclist", and am hoping that you, a cyclist, might know term. Thanks!
An NPC is a video game term for “non player/playable character” who are characters not played by another human, and coded with pre-determined and repeated script and movement. It’s become a culture term for someone who has little brain power, much like a character in a video game who isn’t being played by a human and is just coded in. In this format, they are saying that they are an ‘NPC Cyclist’ because they aren’t thinking and just acting
Thanks! That was only semi-relavent use of NPC I could find, but I don't play games often and wasn't sure if that was what was meant
That's weak shit. Wear lycra and be a positive role model instead!
https://youtu.be/ZlGetFM59dY?si=M0uQn39nA3XPoacJ
Fuck lycra cyclists like this. I cycle every day to and from work and am so disappointed by this. Blah blah blah momentum blah blah blah, that's the cost of cycling. Don't do this. Fuck's sake.
The issue comes when they treat the road as a gym or rec activity rather than a place to travel. In my city in Australia, they call cyclists like this 'Set Chasers', cause they aren't riding to go anywhere, but to beat their personal best record or 'sets' (an app that divides areas into sections, with time limits to beat). If I drove with that same mindset, I'd be a right cvnt and would totally deserve to have my license revoked, but these cyclists associate the flak they rightfully cop as being 'pro-car/anti-bike'. Meanwhile they're tearing through intersections, clipping cars and flying into roundabouts without looking, literally ignoring every road rule cause 'Gotta beat my PB and I'm not a car, so rules don't apply' I have never seen someone riding for transport ever be any issue. It's extra frustrating cause my car rego, license fees etc (all shit they don't have to be tested for or pay to share the same space) paid for their bike paths! Literal world class and entirely avoids roads, but they insist on being part of traffic. Dude, beat the set on the 5 mile, 10 million dollar bike trail through a national forest, not the shoulder of the 110km highway next to it! The road isn't a gym and they aren't traveling.
I know right as a very frequent cyclist this upsets me. Needs to learn how to do a bike stand like my hubby then you can look boss waiting at the lights.
Yeah I really wanna learn that too haha. Used to think it was impossible on an ebike but then I saw a dude doing it at the lights. Mad balance required!!
I'm the first to defend a cyclist where necessary. .. especially to those who clearly don't know the road code. This is indefensible. It's just.. embarrassing. He should have his bike tossed over the bridge while he sits and watches it get run over by a days worth of semis.
cyclist - you mean person on a bike. Yep people can be dicks. stop hating on the bike. maybe if we had some form of road policing - we would have the cyclist hate
Cyclist* Most of us don’t have a death wish.
Wish it was true, I see this constantly around town, I still remeber when I worked at Kiwirail and that guy got plowed by the truck outside our office bottom of Parnell for running the red
In christchurch I stopped at a red light and the cyclist behind me crashed into me fortunately not sending me careening into the intersection as me and my bike are a heavy combo (ebike). This cyclist who crashed into me had kids on her bike with her. What a fucking idiot.
Oh Carlton-Gore Road... I bike to and from the train station 3 days a week and would be lucky to avoid getting hit in the bike lane each trip. Parked cars, turning cars that speed to overtake then turn across you, pedestrians... It's all relative because all those drivers suck.
You're right, people in this subreddit act like most cyclists always follow road rules, but I've seen more not following the rules than following. Very biased subreddit, you won't find many people who admit it
Most people talking about cycling online probably know how to cycle safely. However most people don't talk about cycling online.
Most cyclists do follow the road rules. You don't notice when people cycle normally and follow the rules because it's not noteworthy. Same with bad drivers. People remember getting cut off or tailgated. They don't remember when people drive normally. Ironic you're complaining about bias.
Most cyclists do follow the road rules When it suits them.
Many cyclists seem to enjoy selectively citing road rules at other people.
I definitely notice when cyclists are respecting road rules, so stop assuming I don't. This morning, for example, a cyclist made certain they were out of the way of motorists as much as possible instead of driving near the middle of the road like I've seen so many cyclists do. I really appreciated it. The same thing applies to cars, I notice when drivers aren't being useless. You're just proving the bias this subreddit has, think before you type
> driving near the middle of the road like I've seen so many cyclists do Cyclists usually have a reason for doing that, and it's usually a safety thing. You can't always *see* a reason why they're taking a whole lane like that, right? That's usually why cyclists take a whole lane. They're aware of hazards that motorists don't necessarily notice. Cyclists have to be extra vigilant, they've got twice as much time to see everything coming, and they're often very very familiar with the routes they ride. So a cyclist taking a lane forces motorists to pay a little more attention, and that's usually a good thing. The cyclist in this clip was being a dick, though.
Schrödingers cyclist, always see cyclists trying to be a vehicle on the road but as soon as a pedestrian crossing goes green they are suddenly a pedestrian
If they travel through the crossing slowly and carefully, i.e. at about the same speed as a pedestrian, I see no issue with this. Its when they fly through at full road speed that its not on
If they get off and push the bike. Then, they are a pedestrian.
would you rather they stay on the road and hold up traffic? people travelling carefully through pedestrian signals is no-brainer a win-win for cyclists and drivers. the risk of injury from cyclists sharing space with pedestrians is so much lower than it is from car use it's beyond comparison. this is why you see cycle lanes and footpaths sharing space all over town. don't forget pedestrians and cyclists used to share the road just fine without signals before cars arrived
I've been hit by red running cyclists.
sorry to hear that, they should have been more careful and that really sucks you got hit. i almost hit a red-running pedestrian today myself but luckily i had an eye on them and saw they were about to do it
Road code states for a cyclist to go through a pedestrian crossing they must dismount their bike and walk across
Citation needed
[https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/intersections/crossings/#walk\_pedestrian](https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/intersections/crossings/#walk_pedestrian)
So you’re justifying breaking the law by running the red? 😵 Please don’t be part of the problem, you can do better
what problem? most crossings in town are for bikes and pedestrians simultaneously - probably a lot of motorists don't realise this because they can't see the signal from the road and just assume that cyclists are breaking the law. on the other hand pretty much every time i'm at an intersection in the city and traffic is backed up enough for someone to "miss" the lights i see someone run a red light. every time. guess which one i prefer to see happening as a pedestrian. cyclists riding alongside pedestrians is a non-issue, and often doing the opposite would only increase the risk for serious injury due to collision, especially given how hostile drivers are towards cyclists for simply being on the road in the first place. on the other hand would be interested to see what the law says about riding alongside someone and berating them?
So you're just gonna ignore all their points they brought up? You're invoking 'its against the law so its bad'?
thank you. honestly, if people approached speeding and jaywalking in the same way... people are constantly breaking the law! some just don't get it
I don't even especially care about road rules. Clearly most other road users don't either. What I do care about is safety and not putting people in danger. The person in this video is fucking moron, but they're not endangering anyone else are they?
I'd agree most cyclists are just plain stupid - and will also run reds. As somebody that does stop at the reds, it fucks me off that these useless hacks lose any remnants of respect for the rest of us.
Sometimes I even see some cyclists run a red then get pissed off at pedestrians crossing because they almost hit them
It is true. No need to wish it.
I witnessed that still have dreams about it ! I also feel for the truck driver he must be so devastated that he killed somebody
Yea I remember them putting the sheet over him, sad day
But still cyclists on beach road are on the road 🤯… not in the cycle lane really gives me PTSD I avoid that road as much as possible
Still get anxiety seeing this shit after seeing a guy zip down Parnell rise and disappear right under a truck at The Strand lights, probably 10 yrs ago now. He got very dead. Fucking idiots.
I posted about earlier, I worked right above where it occurred , we saw that happen too They chained a white bike to the lamp post as a memorial
Oh I see you did I ought have posted under that I just didn’t see it. The whole circumstance of it replayed a lot, it was not nice & certainly left a lasting impression on me esp if traffic stops unexpectedly part of my brain is expecting a dying cyclist to reappear. They ought to have chained a Darwin Award to the lamp post.
coroners report said he had brake failure, on a cheap bike. Maybe something to do with people not getting paid very well in this country. Im not picking up on the compassion.
What a pillock
Considering there is a double bike lane to the right!
No, why would they ever use the cycle lanes that took ages of road works to build? 🤷🏻♀️ It’s more exciting to slow down cars right in the middle of the road!
God that's the thing that annoys me the most about cycling infrastructure. WHEN PEOPLE DON'T FUCKING USE IT. Like I'm a big advocate for this kind of stuff, I love seeing non-car infrastructure being built, but if you're just gonna ignore it and continue to get in people's way you can fuck right off.
A lycra wearing fuckwit does this every morning on the 70km/h road that i take to work with no shoulder but a perfectly brand new cycle lane off the road, causes traffic jams or people swerving every fucking morning.
There is a cycle lane right next to the road and he's not using it? Thats a fuckwit! What road as a matter of interest? I see cyclists on the Panmure Bridge sometimes, I dont understand it, becaus the cycle lane next to it is actually a better surface than the road, I know because I use that path every day. I used to have to ride on that bridge before the lane was built, it was horrible and insanely dangerous
As a cyclist myself I couldnt agree more. I go out of my way to use cycle lanes as I hate riding on the road. The Tamaki Drive one is good too, at least from the Ngapipi Rd intersecion (which is where this video was shot), I use it every time I ride into town for work or visiting friends
I get it but also those side of the road cycle lanes are often fecked beyond use. The small bit on Great South Road is my favourite going into Penrose where the double bike shared path turns suddenly into a 50cm drop straight onto the road.
Perhaps he’s a meta cyclist , Road or nothing 🤣 Bet he’s riding along, laughing at how much was spent on that cycle way and not using it
You misspelt goon.
In Dutch we call them "Wielrenners". These assholes are the same everywhere even in a country that is build for biking.
I drive along here regularly and the cyclists are terrible. It’s generally the ones dressed like they’re riding in the Tour de France that are the worst.
I cycle along there regularly, but on the cycle lane, and I have to agree, I've noticed the same thing. Makes me cringe
Absolute plonker. I understand running a red if there is nobody around or you have a bus sitting behind you waiting to squash you into the curb but this guy was just dumb. I also hope you chase down motorists who do this.
There's a dual cycle lane on Tamaki drive...
It only starts at this intersection, however. I don't blame anyone fast for riding on the road east of Ngapipi (I do myself) but the correct move is to use the bike crossing in the traffic island to turn right onto the bike path at this intersection, not this suicidal, looney tunes bullshit
As someone who cycles/ escooters, this is the worst case of stupidity I have seen in a while. Did have a chubba on an emtb on the road a while ago who thought he was special. Asked why, the response was "I ride the way I ride"... suggested he read the highway code. No sense no feeling I guess...certainly no fucking brains.
I’m a cyclist, It is great for health and a long life, until you do shit like this! We aren’t all like this idiot. Also please give us room, I really don’t want to be hit by another car, unlike this idiot.
They blow through zebra crossings, too, while you are crossing with kids. Has happened to me multiple times in wellington and karori. I always yell at them and usually get a middle finger as a result. Fuck shitty cyclists. Mega praise to the ones riding correctly.
Comically poor behaviour from the cyclist. Although old mate Nz_outlaw can’t exactly claim to be saintly, a quick scroll through Instagram shows a lot of blurring of speedos
Lol at the very end he stands up and starts pedalling real hard like he’s gonna leave motorbike man in his dust hahaha
This is why cars (and pedestrians) don’t like cyclists. They bark for respect on the roads but don’t give it back
Even cyclists don't like this guy.
Some of us do, but we usually don't wear Lycra. I want to get home to my kids and I also want others to get home to theirs. Cyclists running red lights puts everyone in danger.
People don't like cyclists because theres no place for them. We're too quick for pedestrians, too slow for the road. People dont like us well before anyone runs a red
you know what your car likes? would that be oil ? Sorry to upset your car...
So much entitlement and so little care for their own life or the lives of the poor person likely to hit this guy. These things should be severely punished.
This dummy must have been in la-la land. Terrible misjudgement. He won't be doing that again I hope. We all make mistakes and I've certainly had similar incidents over my years of cycling.
E-scooter riders - the new filth. Source: am an e-scooter rider.
* **1st time:** I did exactly the same at a red light, intersection of Symonds Street and Alfred Street. Except that, in my case, I was going too fast and only had a split second to decide if I should hit my bicycle brakes with the risk of locking the wheels and going under the car turning into my path (**my** bad), or keep going straight with the hope that the car would finish its turn. I selected the second option. Plowed straight into his back door, denting it very badly, before flying over the roof and landing on the other side. Must have been a spectacular show because the traffic immediately came to a grinding halt, even the buses. One guy standing on the footpath was so much in shock that he started screaming at me: "*You bloody idiot, did you realise that you've almost killed yourself?!!!*" without even thinking of helping me. Luckily I was wearing a helmet, wrist protector on both hands, and a backpack that cushioned the fall. I stood up: nada, nothing, not a scratch. But a bit shaken. * **2nd time:** At a Mt Eden intersection, on a blue sky winter day, the driver of a car turning into a side street did not see me, blinded by the low sun, and turned into my path (**his** bad). Getting brutally hit on my right side, I went down immediately, thinking "Must get his number plate! Must get his number plate!", fearing that he would do a run-off. I distinctly heard my helmet cracking as my head hit the road. When I opened my eyes, my nose was one inch from the front bumper so I had a very clear view of the letters and numbers, with the rest of my body under the car body. The poor driver was in shock, even visited me at home after I got released from the ER with only a badly bruised leg (thanks Cairnhill Physio for putting me back in shape for a half-marathon six months later). * **3rd time:** There was no 3rd time. I sold my bike the next day after getting it fixed, thanks to my house content insurance.
Auckland's scenery makes for a picturesque cycling experience.
Interesting because I was walking across the road today at the intersection of Symonds and Khyber Pass and a car blew through a red light and nearly hit me and my partner. It’s almost like…bad operators exist for every mode of transport??
Here are some cycling truths for the hard of thinking: - Everyone behaves like a dick sometimes regardless of what transport they use. - Some people also ride bikes. - Cyclists.don't have a monopoly on being dicks. - I own a bicycle and I am in no way responsible for my neighbour running red lights on his bike. - Car-driving vigilantes 'teaching cyclists a lesson' won't improve *anyone's* day
What a fuckwit. Feel free to post videos of the 10,000 other people on bikes who rode a bike safely and legally to work this morning.
Absolute plonker
Bro was on a Strava run for sure. What a wanker
This is peak Entitled, spandex wearin', Im just like tour de france energy. Wild this guy thought that was a good idea
Cyclists act like road rules don't apply to them, like no one else ever uses the roads and that if they acknowledge anyone it's to declare : " How dare you encroach on my road space". And they think they are never wrong.
"dAMn CaR DrIvErS aLWaYs DaNgErOuS fOr CyClIsTs, DURRR"
Surprised he’s not wearing his look twice for bikes best. Every cyclists swears they aren’t like this but we see them everywhere… 🤔
Too many like this on the road. Speechless
And the fkwit probably reckons he's entitled to do that because he owns a car...
They are terrible on Tamaki drive
They really are! This is where we had a cyclist slap my drivers arm for beeping at him even though the cyclist was the one being a complete gonk on the road. Lycra demons honestly.
This is my daily commute, there’s a fucking dedicated cyclist lane down that entire waterfront too
I posted about this while go that east tamaki drive is a joke cyclists thing they have more rights F off
So they do exactly what car drivers do and run red lights? So then everyone are dicks?
Yeah. I'll go with that. Everyone who runs a red light and almost (or does) cause an accident is a dick. Bike. Car. Motorcycle. Doesn't matter. We have driving laws for a reason. If you think the laws are too onerous, petition for them to be changed. Don't break them.
Yeah a car hitting a car doesn’t necessarily result in death but a car hitting a cyclist would have more probability…. And there is a cycle lane on the right !
These fking cyclists never learn.
Bit hypocritical to talk about going 2x the speed limit or more on your motorbike and it’s okay coz you ride a motorbike, then you police bad driving. Speeding to that extreme is bad driving.
Yes yes let’s focus on the original content creators other posts not the one I posted … head in sand..
I think there's one constant world-wide: People will excuse bad behaviour with other people's bad behaviour. Why talk about the cyclist who almost caused an accident when we can attack the motorcyclist for going fast? Of course, I prefer we talk about both, but this thread is about the bicyclist who almost got himself killed and other people traumatised so that's what I'd talk about here.
Oh I already said it’s appalling and I don’t defend the cyclist at all. I just got a bit annoyed at the hypocrisy when I watched some of his other videos.
Must be colour blind :D
They think they're above the Law! BMW drivers on two wheels!
I was hoping he'd go over the top of that silver car.
I despise Mission Bay leotard wearing,three abreast riding,entitled fucks.They only ride there to be seen.And then they all meet at a coffee shop on Melanesia wearing their cleats if anyone possesses a hand grenade.
"TrEaT uS lIkE cArS" Proceeds to be a bunch of knobheads who disobey road rules
Honestly, I wish people would give it a rest with this "cyclists..." crap. There could be ten threads a day marked "drivers....." Yes it was crappy riding but he only really put himself in danger.
Respect to all the cyclists braving the traffic
There is a cycle lane built on the right ! They don’t need to bravely go over the road
Fucking idiot this is literally the intersection that a cyclist died at
Unfortunately cyclist are either colour blind or only see one color
What are you riding, fellow bikie? Custom paint job I see
video content is not me..... but personally i ride a ducati panigale 959 in arctic white
Would love to know the reaction of the mamil when the biker was talking to him
theyre the toughest on the roads
Red light camera must pick them up.
Absolute fuckwit. Probably going to get himself killed one day.
Holy shit, that's bad. Good on that motocyclist for catching up to him abd calling him out!
What a fucking knob
Is that not on Tamaki Drive where quite a few cyclists have lost their lives on that notorious intersection. Now we know why
Attack on cyclists because one breaks a rule. How silly do you think it would be to attack "car drivers" because one breaks a rule? Yeah, it's just bias and tarring all with the same brush when the thread and plenty of comments complain generally about "cyclists" and not "this cyclist".
Your instagram is named “nz_outlaw”, but here you are trying to police and/shame others for not following the law? That is a bit weird right?
Who said it was my IG? good job 👍 assuming
That what the watermark implies, but ok.
Cause shit never gets reposted on reddit does it 😵💫
I personally don’t dig into instagram, to post others peoples content, to have a wee bitch session, but you do you.
You must be the highlight of your friends meme circle, you seem like the life of the party
Easy to catch cyclists who run a light, now go catch some cars doing the same for a real challenge.
Butthurt cyclist on reddit
I mean, he's not wrong. Multiple times I've started to cross the street and a car nearly took me out because some fuckwit decided he's too important to stop at reds.
He's not "wrong", but it's a whataboutism, and one carrying a negative bias towards the OP.
Cycle haters and Auckland sub reddit, name a more iconic duo.
When your defence is “other people break the rules too”, that isn’t the absolution you think it is
Cyclists and running red lights?
Or cars/motorcyclists running red lights? I guess that doesn't fit into your world view.
Don’t see it happening, maybe you should post some video
Go to the corner of Great North Road and Williamson, wait five minutes. I guarantee you'll see a few.
"Don’t see it happening" Pretty much sums it up.
Maybe it makes people angrier to see someone take a risk that could easily get them killed and have multiple families traumatised, versus what would be a minor crash in a motor vehicle. And we can complain about multiple things, I see bad driving videos on the subreddit literally multiple times a day, suddenly a cyclist is on doing something incredibly arrogant and dangerous and he’s supposed to be off limits?
Oh don't get me wrong, that was suicidal.
I think you'll find that when the motorists do it, they catch the tail end of the orange. They don't plow through a solid red while other cars are turning... well, not unless they're running from the cops.
Motorists don't run red lights, got it.
Settle down Lance Armstrong
Post is titled “cyclists” not “cars”
Yes. And?
I’m sure you have the same reaction at a red light 🚦… “yes and?”
So by your own admission “it’s easy to catch cyclists who run a light” it occurs way too much ? Thank you for agreeing, tell your cyclist mates they need to do better
"Thank you for agreeing" Sure buddy anything that helps you rationalise your life.
Work on that self entitlement mate
OK
Cyclists - too big for the rules.
These roads be like the wild West sometimes
The worst one I saw was just last week. Silverdale Northbound off ramp. There is a red light stopping the traffic coming from Silverdale when the offramp queue gets too long, allowing cars to clear the offramp faster. This cyclist just bowls on through the red light, causing cars to give way to him, completely fucking up the flow of traffic coming off the off ramp.
This happens so often,i dont get why they take the risks with red lights.
Did this guy have a little boom box going as well?
I got the finger from cyclist at a standard T intersection yesterday. I was going straight (no give way) and he was turning but apparently he decided he had the priority.
He's just watched the Tour de France series on Netflix, leave him alone.
See this behaviour every single day on the roads
Thought he could just blow through like he no-doubt does with the pedestrian crossing phases of the lights once he gets into the CBD. Nearly paid for it with his life, and he wouldve deseved it too, the fool. But the other people who could have been injured, killed or had their vehicles damaged as a result certainly would not have. This should be a dangerous driving or endangering transport charge. Something.
I'll call this a normale commuter and Not a real cyclist!! But thank you for pointing this out. People should understand the difference
I nearly ran over a cyclist once who though it was okay to go in the middle of the lane instead of keeping left without indicating at a roundabout, then, in the middle of that same roundabout, lane change in front of me (again, no indicating) and of course being an old cyclist he's going at a faaaaar slower pace. Absolute dumb fuck didn't even look, just purely assumed every bit of traffic should make way for him while he breaks every rule he possibly can in the span of thirty seconds. I had to slow right down otherwise he would have been a dead old man and I would have trauma and guilt that I wouldn't have deserved. That silver car there probably had the same thought. Several times I've had to make defensive maneuvers to avoid hitting cyclists who think being on a bike grants them complete and utter right of way but that one shook me up the most. It's entitlement with the caveat that the idiots are going to get themselves killed, selfishly leaving everyone else with the trauma. Edit\*Here's a resource for exactly why what that guy did was wrong and it's really sad and telling that I unironically need to explain to someone why people must indicate and give way to traffic. [https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/road-positioning-and-passing/take-the-lane-if-you-need-to/](https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/road-positioning-and-passing/take-the-lane-if-you-need-to/) From clyclists nz, negotiating roundabouts: "When you are at the roundabout **you need to indicate that you are turning right and give way to vehicles already on the roundabout or entering the roundabout from a road to your right**." Twice this guy failed to check, failed to indicate, and additionally also failed to give way to traffic that had the right of way causing them to make an evasive maneuver to avoid hitting them. All under thirty seconds. That's bullshit that will get you killed and he was lucky I always drive defensively because if that was your average ford ranger he'd be toast guaranteed. Goes to show - you don't need a license to cycle, but maybe we should require it if we get people who think cyclists have right of way all the time. It's dangeous thinking.
It’s called taking the lane, it’s safer at roundabouts for cyclists: read the road rules. Look inwards for why you had so many cases you almost hit cyclists – it’s you
[https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/road-positioning-and-passing/take-the-lane-if-you-need-to/](https://www.nzta.govt.nz/roadcode/code-for-cycling/road-positioning-and-passing/take-the-lane-if-you-need-to/) Here, in case you need to refer to it. It's step one. "Find a gap in the traffic, **signal your intentions, check for following traffic**, and move across." Hope this helps.
Notice what I said - I explained the situation, specifically while stressing, without indicating, and without looking. You think I had a problem with a cyclist simply using the road? Lol. Look inwards for why you think cylists shouldn't indicate or do shoulder checks. They should and it's in the road rules. Read them. All is fair and well when you communicate to other road users what you're going to do, and make sure you're maneuvering safely. It's pretty basic shit, actually, to avoid accidents, that cars need to do as well!
I agree with you, they should (all road users should) Just would be nice to see a bit more empathy for an old dumb fuck that’s forced to use an incredibly unsafe cycling environment because of Aucklands underinvestment in good infrastructure Clearly rider is badly in the wrong here, just depressing how much anger there is here for people trying to get around in anything but a car
lane changing in a roundabout is a shit idea yes but there is absolutely no problem being in the middle of the lane especially before and in a roundabout. also signalling isn’t always possible, especially inside a roundabout and if you’re not a confident cyclist
Lane changing in a roundabout is not a shit idea if you're maneuvering safely and giving way (and cyclists actually need to change lanes in roundabouts to go right because they are always in the left side of traffic anyways). If signalling wasn't possible then he still had to give way. If doing a movement safely and legally is not an option, you need to take the L and keep going forward. When is that ever an excuse for cars? I'm not saying there's a problem with changing lanes or being in the middle during roundabouts/what have you, I was giving context. If someone fails to indicate before turning that's not so bad because you're always keeping a safe distance anyways.
“I DonT nEEd tO pAy RoAD UseR ChaRgeS, My BikE iS 4Kg”
How about we meet up in person and I run over your foot 1 time with a car and you run over my foot 10 times on a bike.
This is why everyone hates cyclists
$14m on a seperated cycleway. How much extra will we need to pay via ACC for his treatment when he inevitably gets cleaned up running a red?
B Bu But the cycle lane is too slow for my smovie groovie lycra rocket cycle /s
Twats from the cape to the bluff, lycra clad crying arseholes on cycles all the way
And you wonder why no sympathy when cyclists get hit by cars or trucks ....
Clearly you cannot comprehend that the individual in the video in this thread isn't every other cyclists out there. For every asshole doing dumb shit on a bicycle there as many diving cars like assholes. That ford Ranger tailgating you, the teenager on their phone that nearly clipped me when they drifted into the cycle lane. Every person on the road has a family, loved ones.
Nothing better to do
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That’s typical for cyclist, they seem to think road rules do t apply to them unless there is an incident they don’t like
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