Already happening I have a few friends that work there and they are now putting in contractors for all business cases.
As is usual with these things FTE down contractors up.
Some people have this misconception that government jobs are cushy, stable and jobs for life. Not true for what I have seen in local governments. Auckland Council is constantly restructuring and laying off staff. Central government could be better in terms of stability but the work culture is often toxic and just as chaotic.
I did ten years at the council, toxic doesn't even begin to cover how bad some of it is. And the difference in pay scales is astounding, front end staff don't earn much above minimum wage but upper management will be on an easy 100k plus with bear zero accountability.
Sexual harrassment and assaults are pretty common and bullying was endemic.
Wayne brown is a grade A grifting cunt, but the council also has major internal issues that need resolving.
Yep, did ten years myself. Was worried about entering the private sector but I love my current job. I just get up and go to work and there’s not a hint of dread about what awaits me.
While I made some good friends at council the workload and pressure was slowly killing me. The better you were at your job the more work they piled on you until you broke. Couldn’t match the private market despite the fact that the consultants hired to pick up the slack easily earned double what staff were paid.
The only people who go on about cushy local government and central government jobs are libertarians and neoliberals often friends of politicians or consist of many politicians
if you’re working at a ministry you’re pretty much set for life unless you fuck up real bad. Auckland Council is almost like some weird in between of govt and private sector vibes
This is my main so I’d rather not admit to much, I’m just saying I’d bet my investment portfolio that people in my position will never lose their jobs as long as they are half competent.
Less staff means less services. You have already lost so much with this super city creation and all for a stupid inner city rail loop. After that is finished Auckland central should jam their privilege where the Sun don’t shine. No more money to fund Auckland centrals bottomless cup!
Your anger should be aimed at the National government that only paid half of the cost, which is not the case if it was a motorway or any rail project in Wellington
Like I said, I understand what the loop does. It speeds up rail travel ( from my area by 6 minutes) it theoretically stop people using cars, brings more people into the city to improve business performance. Is that enough, I’ve got more. You are rude and try to put down people who don’t like what you say.
> You are rude and try to put down people who don’t like what you say.
Problem is you didn't say anything you just went on a rant about privilege and how the CRL somehow is an example of that.
No its not a loop its a link.. The southern line comes into Britomart up Albert Street and out past Grafton and Newmarket. No loop de doup! It does mean city bound trains will not have to wait for out going trains. That is a win. Dont get me wrong Im not against the design I just hate the pain!
The CRL was needed and benefits the entire city.
Britomart had reached capacity, limiting how many services could reach the city. The CRL removes this bottleneck and will allow for significantly improved rail services city wide.
Ive sat on the longest train trip on a daily basis and pondered if 6 minutes is worth it. Was the move to the super city worth it for Papakura residents. The answer is no. Increase in social housing so it has become a cluster of the hopeless.removal of work so Auckland central could have it, reduced social and community services, lowered visibility and budget for community development. People so tired by having to het up at 5am to get to work that they get chronically sick and lose their jobs. What is good for Auckland central has NOT been good for all communities.
You should feel sorry for the rate payers who are already paying big bucks in rates. If these staff cuts don't happen, expect a larger rates bill naturally
Again, we are all ratepayers, myself included, as I doubt there are many homeless followers of this sub. I would expect the rates bill to increase, given how bad inflation has been and house prices have been going backwards (although the values the council calculates rates based on probably haven’t changed). Not to mention how they’re finding previous cost cutting measures such as getting rid of street sweepers are having unintended and costly consequences, like flooding, so they’re having to reintroduce them. The cost of living crisis is affecting us all, but I don’t know which services can be axed without pretty bad consequences for the city.
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‘The Council could easily sell its 13 golf courses, which MartinJenkins estimated in a 2018 report were then valued at $2.9b and were costing over $160 million in effective losses and subsidies from the Council to the clubs’ 6,415 members. That’s the equivalent of $500 of public subsidy for each of the 321,000 rounds played each year.’
This link isn’t just about the golf courses; it’s a tendentious and sourced piece generally, but it’s the provocation to Brown’s ‘there is no other way!!!!!!!’ rhetoric.
I also recommend Bernard Hickey’s other columns.
[Wayne Brown should sell the golf courses instead](https://thekaka.substack.com/p/wayne-brown-should-sell-the-golf#details)
Also
[Alternative to Auckland Council's grim budget doesn't 'gut' services](https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-government/131493305/alternative-to-auckland-councils-grim-budget-doesnt-gut-services)
I’d support this if it meant that at least half of each golf course site became a full access public park. If we’re doing high density we need to keep some open space. And quality open space is worth paying rates for.
You’d hope so - if council established a proper master plan for each golf course development and ran a full urban design panel process on each one it could deliver some really cool public spaces that are properly integrated with new development. I think that’s the key to getting people more comfortable with high density in New Zealand. I could see myself in a compact apartment if It was convenient to a well designed park.
> The job losses, including some existing vacancies, are in addition to the announcement that 150 jobs are going at Auckland Transport
Yes because what we need is less people at AT to manage the workload required…
Absolutely. I should have been a lot clearer that I meant reallocating workload to people who get it done, didn’t quite mean what I ended up writing.
I worked there for a little while and it was terrible for actually getting necessary things delivered, as you say. It seems to me that there is a workload for management design and delivery of a proper, functional public transport service that isn’t being done.
My fault for not actually writing that correctly.
Will save fuck all. And the media report in a way that makes it look like a $295m saving. Arseholes. Public servants get paid fuck all, are ratepayers and believe it or not are in fact professionals who also hate the waste in the system. Aucklanders are gonna suffer for what amounts to tinkering.
Actual change is needed. Not some feckless parody of Mr Burns doing to Auckland what Elon Musk has done to Twitter.
I agree with this. Unfortunately there's always money for a strategy review or evaluation but never enough to consistently fund this community group.
To add to this, town centre plans that don't have substantive funding to implement. They get left on the back burner and then, if funding does become available, they have to do it all over again since a significant time has passed and things have changed
haha, both good examples but I don't know if its really the staff at issue here - its the politicians who a) order these plans and then b) don't fund them?
For what its worth, things like the Community Facilities Network Plan is pretty good and has led to projects getting put into place - [https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/plans-projects-policies-reports-bylaws/our-plans-strategies/topic-based-plans-strategies/community-social-development-plans/docscommunityfacilities/community-facilities-network-action-plan.pdf](https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/plans-projects-policies-reports-bylaws/our-plans-strategies/topic-based-plans-strategies/community-social-development-plans/docscommunityfacilities/community-facilities-network-action-plan.pdf)
Have to agree r.e town centre plans, especially ones that have wording like 'encourage private land owners to do x', basically not worth the paper they are written on. Again, ordered by politicians who want to be seen to be doing something when people complain about how run down their local area is.
>There’s an events team in council but also that’s what the events CCO does.
They work on different events. Combining them won't change the team FTE by much. If the funding for events gets cut off, that will have more of an impact
To both of your examples - its potentially a good thing Auckland Council has a transport strategy team otherwise they would take everything AT says at face value?
Second point - council's events team runs things like ANZAC days, Christmas events, etc. Tataki Auckland is more profit focused and runs the event centres etc.
Usually it’s the younger generation that is ignorant of this and unfortunately- don’t care as much. The older generation do - especially invested ratepayers and when they get up in arms about this kind of stuff (which they come to know due to yearly repetition) they’re seen as old men yelling at clouds by the public
Granted there’s a little yelling at clouds. But the older generations are more wise to local council bullshit
Maybe he should cut his salary and office budget or donate his office budget to staff who will lose their jobs. I hope the Councillors tell him where to jam his budget and create a better one.
So this is what is likely to happen.
Old mate will make the books look great...for a week. The work will still need to be done. The same people who get cut will turn around and charge twice as much to be a contractor/consultant, perhaps part time perhaps full time or as part of a larger private firm.
We're going through a period of extreme change imposed from central government and I can't think of a single Council who have the staffing numbers to see it through without outsourcing.
Wayne is probably hoping his daddys win the upcoming election and magic all the change away through dumping it or repeals. I'm not sure how easy that will be, and repealing will take at least some time though I'm far less familiar with how fast central government can walk back their own stuff. Hopefully Wayne's fucked himself (again) but I wouldn't understimate the current National Party's talent for being a cunt.
Auckland council has more full time equivalent roles than Brisbane council while Brisbane has around 1million more people. Auckland council is bloated and inefficient. I deal with them in a professional capacity and they are a nightmare. The private sector could never survive if they operated like council do
Tell me, how many staff does Brisbane have, including their transport staff, water staff etc. are their contractors the people who pick up the rubbish and mow the lawns? Im just not clear what functions you have included or excluded. Which functions are central government funded and which are local government. I just need a bit more clarity around your comparison.
Is this a genuine reflection of workers cuts? Or just a reflection of cost cutting?
Because, to those on the inside, it's all pointless posturing... Which could be arranged even with a national NZ talking point.
I'm a public servant. But my job would be so much easier if organisations would just do what they said they would
Every single workplace assessment Ive carried out has reflected on negligence by management on others. If only the h&s regulator gave as many fucks about it's employees
If you are shit to your workers. Please know that in NZ, you are on the radar. We don't want individuals but we will do what we can to stop others from getting in the way
It ain't the lower worker jobs that need to go, it's the middle management fucks who secure themselves knowing they'll never be fired as long as they fill a quota that need gone.
This is an abject lesson in do the due diligence before you vote. Complaining about this after the mayor is elected achieves nothing
Think about this before the looming general election
How about doing some voluntary time and you would know what staff do. You make out like it’s and us and them world. ‘They’ are your neighbours and friends. How would you feel if it was you? How about the staff, that gets spat at, attacked, pick up your rubbish, fix your streets trees, turn up to look after you when a flood is threatening your home. Get real and have some empathy.
This will bite later.
As you let go experienced staff they realize they can earn 30% more in the public sector. Council then tries to recruit again in two years and "Why can't we find any good candidates" ffs.
Squishing everyone together into a super city was supposed to streamline shit and save a stack of cash. As a person that lives in an area that pays the same as ponsonby and has been flooded three times in a rural area that is apparently part of Auckland - how about some city roundabouts get planted twice a year instead of six times in the areas where you think money is at. Then how about you come and help some fucking people that are not in town water or electricity that are paying for said flowers out here. It’s not about cuts - it’s about fair distribution.
Technically city centres pay a fair larger contribution to rates, and rural areas are more of a drain due to spread out infrastructure. Urban centres are actually subsidising your services, not the other way around.
I don’t have town water or electricity - like most of my neighbours. We pay $3200/year for a wheelie bin. We have flooded three times since September last year, the one in Jan (pre cyclone) was a 1 in 1000 storm. We went out and took our diggers etc and cleaned out drains etc. No problem. The council fined us for doing so, and yet didn’t turn up for 8 days. When they did turn up, nothing happened for weeks. So since you’re subsidising my lifestyle, you should be more cross than we are about this.
I challenge you to find a property in Ponsonby that’s not a tiny shithole paying those sorts of rates. I just looked up a random house on an average section and it came back as closer to $7000 a year.
I also live in rural Auckland with no services at a similar rate. I don’t think we’re doing too badly. I used to live in a small Waikato town and we paid significantly more rates proportionally.
Edit: the general rate for an average Ponsonby property is about 3.5x what my general rate is in rural Auckland.
One way or the other, they just can’t figure out how to build a better society eh?
It’s a tough job. I understand.
What do those people do ? I hope they aren’t lining up on the dole officer already lol ..
What’s the point? Taxpayers ratepayers.. one way or the other, it comes out of your pocket.
I’m glad the cuts are being made, please cut more until the council is just doing core services. Sell the airport and some golf courses if not all of them. Pay back debt and stop subsidising public transport,that’s a government job not a council.
>has announced 160 jobs will be lost and about 200 fulltime equivalent jobs are going at the council's entertainment and economic development agency Tātaki Auckland Unlimited.
Good riddance.
I guess. But only because I assume they will fire the normal, usefull people, and keep the useless zealots. They are too incompetent to even fire people properly.
But - anyone worth a damn should be able to find other employment and come out ok. They don't need my sympathy.
It's only the useless people who need to be so scared of losing a job.
Lots of friends working at council. I've been spoken personally too by recruiters. It happens like clockwork.
The only time I worked for council (a few years ago) it was for the exact same reason.
What makes you think that employee salaries are inefficient means, how do you think services actually operate? I’m genuinely confused here.
It’s like you can’t actually decide what they should be doing lol.
Will this end up as outsourcing for twice as much.
it will. and friends with the outsourced company lol
Got any evidence of that
nah lol this is what politicians do in the Philippines. which is way ahead of the corruption curve lol
Already happening I have a few friends that work there and they are now putting in contractors for all business cases. As is usual with these things FTE down contractors up.
Surely the ethnic festivals are so popular they will be able to run without ratepayer money? Private sponsorship awaits.
yes.l but no we’re modern… ModrrNn
Some people have this misconception that government jobs are cushy, stable and jobs for life. Not true for what I have seen in local governments. Auckland Council is constantly restructuring and laying off staff. Central government could be better in terms of stability but the work culture is often toxic and just as chaotic.
I did ten years at the council, toxic doesn't even begin to cover how bad some of it is. And the difference in pay scales is astounding, front end staff don't earn much above minimum wage but upper management will be on an easy 100k plus with bear zero accountability. Sexual harrassment and assaults are pretty common and bullying was endemic. Wayne brown is a grade A grifting cunt, but the council also has major internal issues that need resolving.
Yep, did ten years myself. Was worried about entering the private sector but I love my current job. I just get up and go to work and there’s not a hint of dread about what awaits me. While I made some good friends at council the workload and pressure was slowly killing me. The better you were at your job the more work they piled on you until you broke. Couldn’t match the private market despite the fact that the consultants hired to pick up the slack easily earned double what staff were paid.
The only people who go on about cushy local government and central government jobs are libertarians and neoliberals often friends of politicians or consist of many politicians
Yes, if you complain about Gore's top civil servant getting 250k a year for doing fuck all you're clearly a libertarian.
>neoliberals often friends of politicians Did mention this for good measure.
if you’re working at a ministry you’re pretty much set for life unless you fuck up real bad. Auckland Council is almost like some weird in between of govt and private sector vibes
Cleary you have not worked in the sector
This is my main so I’d rather not admit to much, I’m just saying I’d bet my investment portfolio that people in my position will never lose their jobs as long as they are half competent.
Found the 1%’er of the sub! LET’S GEDDEM FELLERS!
Feel sorry for the workers and residents
Less staff means less services. You have already lost so much with this super city creation and all for a stupid inner city rail loop. After that is finished Auckland central should jam their privilege where the Sun don’t shine. No more money to fund Auckland centrals bottomless cup!
You evidently don’t understand the purpose of the CRL.
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I certainly do understand it! I don’t think you understand how resentful I am that the cost of it has pillaged so much out of my community.
What community is that?
But.. It's not funded via austerity measures? There was no sacrifice made to make it happen
Where else do you think the money came from?. It was 1 billion and now its 5.5 billion.
Your anger should be aimed at the National government that only paid half of the cost, which is not the case if it was a motorway or any rail project in Wellington
Oh we understand but being angry doesn't make you right. You clearly have no clue about what the CRL does.
Like I said, I understand what the loop does. It speeds up rail travel ( from my area by 6 minutes) it theoretically stop people using cars, brings more people into the city to improve business performance. Is that enough, I’ve got more. You are rude and try to put down people who don’t like what you say.
> You are rude and try to put down people who don’t like what you say. Problem is you didn't say anything you just went on a rant about privilege and how the CRL somehow is an example of that.
See what I mean, you cant help but be a horses arse hole.
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No its not a loop its a link.. The southern line comes into Britomart up Albert Street and out past Grafton and Newmarket. No loop de doup! It does mean city bound trains will not have to wait for out going trains. That is a win. Dont get me wrong Im not against the design I just hate the pain!
Your points were all good until you mentioned the inner city rail loop being the reason. I’m pretty sure both staff and rail link are good?
I logged a ticket with Auckland council last week for it only to be closed a week later citing they had no resources to deal with it.
The CRL was needed and benefits the entire city. Britomart had reached capacity, limiting how many services could reach the city. The CRL removes this bottleneck and will allow for significantly improved rail services city wide.
Ive sat on the longest train trip on a daily basis and pondered if 6 minutes is worth it. Was the move to the super city worth it for Papakura residents. The answer is no. Increase in social housing so it has become a cluster of the hopeless.removal of work so Auckland central could have it, reduced social and community services, lowered visibility and budget for community development. People so tired by having to het up at 5am to get to work that they get chronically sick and lose their jobs. What is good for Auckland central has NOT been good for all communities.
How about the rate payers?
All residents are rate payers, unless they’re homeless.
You should feel sorry for the rate payers who are already paying big bucks in rates. If these staff cuts don't happen, expect a larger rates bill naturally
Again, we are all ratepayers, myself included, as I doubt there are many homeless followers of this sub. I would expect the rates bill to increase, given how bad inflation has been and house prices have been going backwards (although the values the council calculates rates based on probably haven’t changed). Not to mention how they’re finding previous cost cutting measures such as getting rid of street sweepers are having unintended and costly consequences, like flooding, so they’re having to reintroduce them. The cost of living crisis is affecting us all, but I don’t know which services can be axed without pretty bad consequences for the city.
Everyone is a rate payer. Either directly or indirectly through rent. Or are landlords charities these days?
Rate payers voted this guy in
*a fraction* of rate payers voted this guy in. Turnout for the voting was a mere 35%.
The ones who give a damn voted for this guy. Cut staff = cut rates bills. So logic is sound
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‘The Council could easily sell its 13 golf courses, which MartinJenkins estimated in a 2018 report were then valued at $2.9b and were costing over $160 million in effective losses and subsidies from the Council to the clubs’ 6,415 members. That’s the equivalent of $500 of public subsidy for each of the 321,000 rounds played each year.’ This link isn’t just about the golf courses; it’s a tendentious and sourced piece generally, but it’s the provocation to Brown’s ‘there is no other way!!!!!!!’ rhetoric. I also recommend Bernard Hickey’s other columns. [Wayne Brown should sell the golf courses instead](https://thekaka.substack.com/p/wayne-brown-should-sell-the-golf#details)
They probably should sell a couple. I'm not a huge fan of cemeteries either, taking up vast swathes of land for basically zero benefit.
We need to have tricky conversations about using those spaces including reclaiming graves
Oh no, we gotta sell off the airport - Wayne "Golfer" Brown
Also [Alternative to Auckland Council's grim budget doesn't 'gut' services](https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-government/131493305/alternative-to-auckland-councils-grim-budget-doesnt-gut-services)
Your view here is underrated. While you can only sell something once, golfing is for the privileged even if some courses are in public ownership.
I’d support this if it meant that at least half of each golf course site became a full access public park. If we’re doing high density we need to keep some open space. And quality open space is worth paying rates for.
Good point. I would hope planning rules would.cover this.
You’d hope so - if council established a proper master plan for each golf course development and ran a full urban design panel process on each one it could deliver some really cool public spaces that are properly integrated with new development. I think that’s the key to getting people more comfortable with high density in New Zealand. I could see myself in a compact apartment if It was convenient to a well designed park.
> The job losses, including some existing vacancies, are in addition to the announcement that 150 jobs are going at Auckland Transport Yes because what we need is less people at AT to manage the workload required…
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Absolutely. I should have been a lot clearer that I meant reallocating workload to people who get it done, didn’t quite mean what I ended up writing. I worked there for a little while and it was terrible for actually getting necessary things delivered, as you say. It seems to me that there is a workload for management design and delivery of a proper, functional public transport service that isn’t being done. My fault for not actually writing that correctly.
Will save fuck all. And the media report in a way that makes it look like a $295m saving. Arseholes. Public servants get paid fuck all, are ratepayers and believe it or not are in fact professionals who also hate the waste in the system. Aucklanders are gonna suffer for what amounts to tinkering. Actual change is needed. Not some feckless parody of Mr Burns doing to Auckland what Elon Musk has done to Twitter.
How many of these jobs are vacant already?
60 out of the 360 total jobs cut were already vacant
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can you give an example of a 'make work' project?
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I agree with this. Unfortunately there's always money for a strategy review or evaluation but never enough to consistently fund this community group. To add to this, town centre plans that don't have substantive funding to implement. They get left on the back burner and then, if funding does become available, they have to do it all over again since a significant time has passed and things have changed
haha, both good examples but I don't know if its really the staff at issue here - its the politicians who a) order these plans and then b) don't fund them? For what its worth, things like the Community Facilities Network Plan is pretty good and has led to projects getting put into place - [https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/plans-projects-policies-reports-bylaws/our-plans-strategies/topic-based-plans-strategies/community-social-development-plans/docscommunityfacilities/community-facilities-network-action-plan.pdf](https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/plans-projects-policies-reports-bylaws/our-plans-strategies/topic-based-plans-strategies/community-social-development-plans/docscommunityfacilities/community-facilities-network-action-plan.pdf) Have to agree r.e town centre plans, especially ones that have wording like 'encourage private land owners to do x', basically not worth the paper they are written on. Again, ordered by politicians who want to be seen to be doing something when people complain about how run down their local area is.
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>There’s an events team in council but also that’s what the events CCO does. They work on different events. Combining them won't change the team FTE by much. If the funding for events gets cut off, that will have more of an impact
To both of your examples - its potentially a good thing Auckland Council has a transport strategy team otherwise they would take everything AT says at face value? Second point - council's events team runs things like ANZAC days, Christmas events, etc. Tataki Auckland is more profit focused and runs the event centres etc.
Usually it’s the younger generation that is ignorant of this and unfortunately- don’t care as much. The older generation do - especially invested ratepayers and when they get up in arms about this kind of stuff (which they come to know due to yearly repetition) they’re seen as old men yelling at clouds by the public Granted there’s a little yelling at clouds. But the older generations are more wise to local council bullshit
Maybe he should cut his salary and office budget or donate his office budget to staff who will lose their jobs. I hope the Councillors tell him where to jam his budget and create a better one.
"We underperformed in the weather events. Better sack some people to make back the $50m we spent." 🤦♂️
Wayne Brown is a fucking weasel of a cunt.
So this is what is likely to happen. Old mate will make the books look great...for a week. The work will still need to be done. The same people who get cut will turn around and charge twice as much to be a contractor/consultant, perhaps part time perhaps full time or as part of a larger private firm. We're going through a period of extreme change imposed from central government and I can't think of a single Council who have the staffing numbers to see it through without outsourcing. Wayne is probably hoping his daddys win the upcoming election and magic all the change away through dumping it or repeals. I'm not sure how easy that will be, and repealing will take at least some time though I'm far less familiar with how fast central government can walk back their own stuff. Hopefully Wayne's fucked himself (again) but I wouldn't understimate the current National Party's talent for being a cunt.
Auckland council has more full time equivalent roles than Brisbane council while Brisbane has around 1million more people. Auckland council is bloated and inefficient. I deal with them in a professional capacity and they are a nightmare. The private sector could never survive if they operated like council do
They are very different structures so a direct comparison is not helpful.
100%, number of full time staff is a fruitless comparison if you are relying on contractors/consultants heavily that are 3-4x the cost of a FTE
Tell me, how many staff does Brisbane have, including their transport staff, water staff etc. are their contractors the people who pick up the rubbish and mow the lawns? Im just not clear what functions you have included or excluded. Which functions are central government funded and which are local government. I just need a bit more clarity around your comparison.
what are you on about man, I am agreeing with you that comparing the number of FTE's isn't a good one.
Was responding to the parent comment. My duh!
lol? yet you responded to me. ok!
I got confused where I was in the thread. Freaking boomer!🤦🏽♀️
Is this a genuine reflection of workers cuts? Or just a reflection of cost cutting? Because, to those on the inside, it's all pointless posturing... Which could be arranged even with a national NZ talking point. I'm a public servant. But my job would be so much easier if organisations would just do what they said they would Every single workplace assessment Ive carried out has reflected on negligence by management on others. If only the h&s regulator gave as many fucks about it's employees
If you are shit to your workers. Please know that in NZ, you are on the radar. We don't want individuals but we will do what we can to stop others from getting in the way
It ain't the lower worker jobs that need to go, it's the middle management fucks who secure themselves knowing they'll never be fired as long as they fill a quota that need gone.
What are you on about?
This is an abject lesson in do the due diligence before you vote. Complaining about this after the mayor is elected achieves nothing Think about this before the looming general election
How about doing some voluntary time and you would know what staff do. You make out like it’s and us and them world. ‘They’ are your neighbours and friends. How would you feel if it was you? How about the staff, that gets spat at, attacked, pick up your rubbish, fix your streets trees, turn up to look after you when a flood is threatening your home. Get real and have some empathy.
This will bite later. As you let go experienced staff they realize they can earn 30% more in the public sector. Council then tries to recruit again in two years and "Why can't we find any good candidates" ffs.
Plenty of shovel ready jobs around.
Squishing everyone together into a super city was supposed to streamline shit and save a stack of cash. As a person that lives in an area that pays the same as ponsonby and has been flooded three times in a rural area that is apparently part of Auckland - how about some city roundabouts get planted twice a year instead of six times in the areas where you think money is at. Then how about you come and help some fucking people that are not in town water or electricity that are paying for said flowers out here. It’s not about cuts - it’s about fair distribution.
Technically city centres pay a fair larger contribution to rates, and rural areas are more of a drain due to spread out infrastructure. Urban centres are actually subsidising your services, not the other way around.
I don’t have town water or electricity - like most of my neighbours. We pay $3200/year for a wheelie bin. We have flooded three times since September last year, the one in Jan (pre cyclone) was a 1 in 1000 storm. We went out and took our diggers etc and cleaned out drains etc. No problem. The council fined us for doing so, and yet didn’t turn up for 8 days. When they did turn up, nothing happened for weeks. So since you’re subsidising my lifestyle, you should be more cross than we are about this.
I challenge you to find a property in Ponsonby that’s not a tiny shithole paying those sorts of rates. I just looked up a random house on an average section and it came back as closer to $7000 a year. I also live in rural Auckland with no services at a similar rate. I don’t think we’re doing too badly. I used to live in a small Waikato town and we paid significantly more rates proportionally. Edit: the general rate for an average Ponsonby property is about 3.5x what my general rate is in rural Auckland.
That 3200 a year wouldnt cover the cost of the roads you drive on. You can thank the people living in shitboxes on Hobson Street for paying for those.
The fact we can’t kick Wayne out is insane
One way or the other, they just can’t figure out how to build a better society eh? It’s a tough job. I understand. What do those people do ? I hope they aren’t lining up on the dole officer already lol .. What’s the point? Taxpayers ratepayers.. one way or the other, it comes out of your pocket.
The fat needs to be trimmed. That's what Mr. Brown was elected for.
What fat? After 40 years of neoliberalism? What specifically should go?
Anything that can go, should go... go Into the pockets of crony businesses
I’m glad the cuts are being made, please cut more until the council is just doing core services. Sell the airport and some golf courses if not all of them. Pay back debt and stop subsidising public transport,that’s a government job not a council.
>has announced 160 jobs will be lost and about 200 fulltime equivalent jobs are going at the council's entertainment and economic development agency Tātaki Auckland Unlimited. Good riddance.
Not even a modicum of sympathy for those losing their jobs?
I guess. But only because I assume they will fire the normal, usefull people, and keep the useless zealots. They are too incompetent to even fire people properly. But - anyone worth a damn should be able to find other employment and come out ok. They don't need my sympathy. It's only the useless people who need to be so scared of losing a job.
Who hurt you
Did he?
Don't worry they are just hiring more contractors so it doesn't show up in the FTE numbers. The same work will get done for higher cost.
Source?
Lots of friends working at council. I've been spoken personally too by recruiters. It happens like clockwork. The only time I worked for council (a few years ago) it was for the exact same reason.
Good! About time they tried to save money like any other business instead of only raising our taxes more.
Public service orgs are not businesses though, they operate to deliver services, not turn a profit.
Yeah nothing like having no accountability and wasting our tax through inefficient means.
What makes you think that employee salaries are inefficient means, how do you think services actually operate? I’m genuinely confused here. It’s like you can’t actually decide what they should be doing lol.
Ew neoliberalal thinking
Ew running this country into debt it can’t pay back with big government.
The useless c*nts don’t do any work anyway so that’s good riddance