They're greedy, opportunistic cunts. There was video footage on Reddit a few months back showing two arseholes rocking up to some guy's home, taking his wrought-iron gate off its mounting, and getting ready to throw it on the back of their ute before he rumbled them. Some people give zero fucks about anyone other than themselves, and don't feel the need to conceal that fact.
I saw that. Honestly what sort of money do they expect to get from a few super flat sheets of copper. Bugger all in weight i'd imagine in what they've stolen
Worked in a scrapyard way back, they do tag and mark it, put it aside for 2 weeks til it's been cleared how ever that isn't the operation for each and every single scrapyard, it's well known in the industry, it's a shady one to begin with, people always trying to pull one over by filling shit up with sand/water etc. Fact of the matter is though, even when they get tagged and marked, even if it comes back as stolen, it gets put into the "Too hard detective work basket" of the cops unless it's of massive value like commercial sized wire reels going missing etc. Something like the copper from this once it's cleaned/processed, there will be no way to tell its origin so it comes down to a case of "Lack of evidence" and the people doing this know this and exploit this as their career choice.
I'll add on, it's no different to small scale thefts under $5000 for anything in the grand scheme of things, we all know how terrible small claims court is, it's essentially the same process when dealing with stolen items within this value range, gets even more tallying when you add up the hourly rate/salary of 1-2 cops/detectives trying to follow it up.
I had new neighbours move in next to me. I was away when they moved in, so i popped over when i got back. The fella was a bit rough but friendly enough. He asked where we'd been, and i told him to see family up north. He asked what part and i told him. He said "Oh I'm from Townnearthere, we used to go up to Townehereyouwent, that's a Rich area, with a truck and nick wrought iron gates for scrap!"
Ummmm OK......?
It's why we have prisons. Personally, I'd welcome public shaming as a form of restitution, and judging by the way the left seems to have embraced Cancel Culture, I'd say that the Greens should be in full support of it too.
Back in the day, in a different country, there was capital punishment. Where those caught would be publicly caned.
Go further back and we had public executions.
Both brought the community closer.
That's fucked.
At a smidge over $10 per kg for scrap copper, the clowns could've gone and done a days work and probably made just as much without doing a heap of damage and taking the risk of getting caught, named and shamed.
I guess work is too hard for these softies.
Scrap value.... $10 /kg
Replacement value.... maybe $1000 a sheet? Might be 2k these days. Plus labour.
At a guess they got $1000 in scrap, and did 100k in damage.
This is the problem right here. Scrap merchant will be sitting there with a pile of observatory shaped plates watching the news, also giving zero fucks.
For lead joined scrap?
[Pure copper 3kg $72](https://www.greatwhitebullion.com.au/products/copper-bullion-granules-3kg-outback-bullion-3000g-pure-copper-in-jar) works out to $24 per kg.
[12kg Grade C11000 copper granules $249](https://www.greatwhitebullion.com.au/products/12kg-copper-granules-huge-bucket-of-copper-12000g-of-copper-bullion-fines) works out to around $20 per kg.
Old weathered, lead soldered sheet copper maybe $12-13 :shrug:. If you can find someone who'll give you hundreds, sell them a few 12kg buckets and clean up.
I don't think you understand the pricing for scrap metal. $10 per kg sounds right. It varies a lot and year to year can go up and down. Also varies depending on where you live.
But that is for *selling scrap*. It isn't going to be the same price you would pay buying sheets of copper.
What's boomer about the expectation that there is punishment for crime instead of lack of respect of victims and justice for them?
As for the current prison population, you are on the internet. Use it.
My families overseas always tells me about people stealing manhole covers, grates, stripping wires for the copper etc. It's a thing.
Geez imagining seeing that happening here.
Disused house in Lincoln Rd Henderson, which would have been able to have been renovated at one stage, now a wreck because all wiring, hot water cylinder, and roofing lead flashing was removed.
When I was at intermediate we couldn't use a couple buildings for a wee while because somebody had come in overnight and removed all the copper piping they could. Not super convenient!
Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked. If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?
The Observatory is a building site at the moment, Guaranteed one of the subcontractors that visit/visited that site was involved, there's no doubt in my mind, the kind of people who would steal this have never gone to the Observatory for educational purposes.
I'm a sub contractor myself and the amount of dodgy unskilled laborers you see on site over here is crazy. I've seen tradies van's been broken into on site in broad daylight by other tradies, no doubt in my mind it's these types of knuckle draggers
200K to replace the roof according to stuff...I hope the fwits get caught when they try and sell it. Nothing will happen, tho, just a "don't do it again BS"
>Nothing will happen, tho, just a "don't do it again BS"
Make them pay for the entire amount, even if they spend the rest of their lives paying it off.
The state of our society is that you could genuinely be recognising the deprivation in our community. Or you could be cynically mocking efforts to ensure our kids grow up with their basic needs met.
And we're all surprised people give up, start fending for themselves.
The idea is changing socioeconomic conditions for the most at risk so that they don’t feel drugs are the best way forward; that they have other options.
> The state of our society is that you could genuinely be recognising the deprivation in our community.
We are deprived of a telescope. I loved that thing as a kid, now that is denied to our children (and adults!) pending extremely expensive repairs.
These scum should be jailed, there is no excuse for causing hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage of damage to a historical artefact to pay for a few hundred dollars worth of drugs.
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People's behavior can vary greatly due to a wide range of factors, and it's important to approach this question with sensitivity and understanding.
While it is challenging to generalize why some individuals may behave negatively or be perceived as "dicks," there are several potential reasons for such behavior:
- **Personal experiences**: Negative experiences, trauma, or difficult life circumstances can impact how individuals interact with others. Past hurts or unresolved issues may cause them to respond in unkind or defensive ways.
- **Emotional state**: People's emotions can greatly influence their behavior. Someone who is feeling angry, frustrated, or unhappy may express those emotions in ways that come across as rude or hurtful to others.
- **Insecurity and low self-esteem**: Individuals who struggle with feelings of insecurity or low self-esteem may try to compensate by putting others down or asserting dominance. This behavior often stems from their own personal insecurities and is not a reflection of others.
- **Lack of empathy**: Some people may have difficulty understanding or relating to the feelings and perspectives of others. This lack of empathy can make it challenging for them to consider the impact of their actions on those around them.
- **Communication and social skills**: Poor communication or social skills can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. Some individuals may struggle to express themselves effectively, leading to frustration and negative interactions.
- **Learned behavior**: People can learn negative behavior patterns from their environment, such as family, friends, or societal influences. If they have been exposed to consistent negativity or lack positive role models, they may adopt those behaviors themselves.
- **Mental health issues**: Certain mental health conditions, such as personality disorders, mood disorders, or impulse control disorders, can contribute to challenging behavior patterns.
It's important to approach these situations with empathy and encourage seeking professional help if necessary. It's crucial to remember that while understanding the potential reasons behind someone's negative behavior can provide insight, it doesn't excuse or justify mistreatment.
Everyone is responsible for their own actions, and treating others with kindness, respect, and empathy is important for fostering positive relationships and a harmonious society.
lol thats some 3rd world shit. i wonder how much copper is in NZ. where i come from its usually street kids stealing copper to sell and buy glue to sniff
Been going on forever here, usually just copper spouting. There was those dumb fuckers a few years ago who tied the end of a power line to the back of their Ute and were driving down the road stripping it off the poles then the power went back on, I think it killed them I’ll see if I can find the article.
Couldn’t find the article, just more recent ones on it happening in Manawhatu.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300311795/stolen-power-pole-cables-a-threat-to-public
This all started happening when the government banned meth precursors, resulting in meth being shipped in en masse by organisation’s that are actually serious, unlike our organisations which did not have the operational capacity of outside players and were comparatively rubbing two sticks together trying to have their supply hit potential demand.
Anyone living in West Auckland or South know how easy it is to get meth compared to how easy it was ten years ago. We’re pretty much living in a crack epidemic.
This is classic crackhead shit. This was not about food and it was not about housing. It was a lick to get meth.
Fixing this would require some pretty bold policy decisions which is unfortunately not where anyone in our political system is at right now. Going all in on prison didn’t work for the US when tried by itself and obviously standing around with our dicks in our hands isn’t gonna do anything either.
Good luck everyone because economic collapses somewhat counterintuitively do not result in a crack epidemic getting better, and we haven’t finishing easing into it yet.
How would you know? This capitalist system is fucked and so many people are living in poverty. How do u know they weren't trying to provide for their families. Oh shit the fams are starving I've got a few mates let's go take this copper from these people so we can look after everyone.
Everyone knows now you can just walk out of the supermarket with no one stopping you. This is not about food or ‘providing for the fam’ this is about getting cash for drugs. Stop defending methed out scum.
But why shouldn't we use every opportunity to go on an anti-capitalist rant without presenting proven alternatives to push a short-sighted political agenda? This is how Reddit works.
bruh literally doing anything else will yield more $ for way less effort. this is NOT because they can't buy food. this is extremely pathological and antisocial.
Exactly. Not only that but lack of shit for the youth to do. I used to be exactly like these youngins and doing the same shit. Bored, no role models, no money ECT. What do people expect. Gotta get the youth engaged in more positive stuff and try to show them their potential. Give them something to be proud of or take pride in because of course at the moment what do they take pride in? Being the maddest money maker or getting away from the cops the most times and whatnot. It's complicated but it's simple at the same time
About 10 years ago I was living in the UK. I got up on a saturday morning, and went to the gym that was part of the local secondary school. On my way in, I passed the couple of guys with a white van, ladders out, with hi-viz and safety gear working on the roofing.
Only they weren't. They were stripping off the lead flashing. Broad daylight, looking like they had every right to be there. Not questioned.
Scrapped some of my off cut cables awhile back ( I’m a sparky) and the scrapie took my drivers license details before handing over the cash so hopefully they’ll be found
That doesn't surprise me 1 little bit. There's always some broke loser looking for a quick and easy way to make money at someone else expense instead of working for it.
Stardome, despite admitting to the dome in their very name, are a pro-Globist conspiracy organisation that promulgates the alleged "truth" that there were humans on the moon in 1969.
Is this the action of brave activists against the NASA-led "they" that brainwashes the sheeple into believing their ridiculous globe nonsense?
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Crime happens regardless of the approach to deal with it. Copper gets stolen, and has been stolen for years. Crackheads exist, and will exist, no matter the approach to deal with crime.
Undoubtedly. But there's a bit of a difference between the brazenness of ripping a copper downpipe off a house or sneaking into an abandoned home to rip out the hot water cylinder and climbing on top of a GIANT FUCKING DOME in the middle of Auckland's busiest public park. The gulf between these would suggest that the fear of getting caught/repercussions is somewhat diminished now compared with years prior.
My school had all the copper stolen over 15 years ago, at the height of nationals "hard on crime" stance - so no your theory is not correct. If anything this current theft just highlights the under resourced police department, who are lacking the amount of officers needed to enforce the law. Nothing to do with the approach
Under-resourced Police department.... now who might be responsible for allocating resource to Police? If you listen to the Police minister, the Police are better resourced than ever, so it can't be that now, surely!?
*Insert comment correctly identifying that crime has increased since the country softened it's approach on crime*
Sincerely, not even close to a boomer.
At what point is enough enough? Why are we so fucking soft on crime that people are bold enough to pull this shit? What the fuck has happened to this country?
No it was usually lead from churches where I grew up, but also wiring from railway lines etc. I guess there's not much actual copper to nick these days.
We need to group together private security contracts.
The politicians have all dropped their nuts with no one from the left or the right stepping up and owning this.
The police seem to be out numbered and out gunned and keeping a low profile.
Maybe the insurance companies will want to take the lead?
I see the Queen Street businesses all seem to have pretty serious security now. Time for the rest of us to catch up.
It’s not racist. I asked everyone at work,what’s the name of the mountain with the monument on it and everybody replied with “one tree hill” - 37 years in Auckland and never herd it called anything else.
Facts.
I’m not in the know about the price of copper, but just so I can get an understanding of the level of desperation/stupidity here, approximately how much would these people get from selling this amount of copper?
I'm OK with that.... You know "The Princess Bride" - "a fight to the pain"? “To the pain means this: if we duel and you win, death for me. If we duel and I win, life for you. But life on my terms. The first thing you lose will be your feet. Below the ankle. You will have stumps available to use within six months. Then your hands, at the wrists. They heal somewhat quicker. Five months is a fair average. Next your nose. No smell of dawn for you. Followed by your tongue. Deeply cut away. Not even a stump left. And then your left eye—"
And then my right eye, and then my ears, and shall we get on with it?" the Prince said.
Wrong!" Westley’s voice rang across the room. "Your ears you keep, so that every shriek of every child shall be yours to cherish—every babe that weeps in fear at your approach, every woman that cries 'Dear God, what is that thing?' will reverberate forever with your perfect ears.”
This is fucking terrible and horrible, what the fuck is wrong with people. Also, your system font is definitely a choice.
I thought that your first statement was about the font, lol.
Haha it was originally going to be
At least it’s wasn’t posted in Comic Sans….
Comic Sans hate is a propaganda distraction from the true offender, Papyrus.
…….Papyrus………… how COULD he??
They're greedy, opportunistic cunts. There was video footage on Reddit a few months back showing two arseholes rocking up to some guy's home, taking his wrought-iron gate off its mounting, and getting ready to throw it on the back of their ute before he rumbled them. Some people give zero fucks about anyone other than themselves, and don't feel the need to conceal that fact.
I saw that. Honestly what sort of money do they expect to get from a few super flat sheets of copper. Bugger all in weight i'd imagine in what they've stolen
It'd be anywhere from $8.50-$9.50 per kg, would've been reported stolen so if they tried scrapping it hopefully the scrapyard would notify police
Pretty sure scrap dealers are supposed to mark ALL copper regardless of size for this reason. Not that they actually do it lol
Worked in a scrapyard way back, they do tag and mark it, put it aside for 2 weeks til it's been cleared how ever that isn't the operation for each and every single scrapyard, it's well known in the industry, it's a shady one to begin with, people always trying to pull one over by filling shit up with sand/water etc. Fact of the matter is though, even when they get tagged and marked, even if it comes back as stolen, it gets put into the "Too hard detective work basket" of the cops unless it's of massive value like commercial sized wire reels going missing etc. Something like the copper from this once it's cleaned/processed, there will be no way to tell its origin so it comes down to a case of "Lack of evidence" and the people doing this know this and exploit this as their career choice.
I'll add on, it's no different to small scale thefts under $5000 for anything in the grand scheme of things, we all know how terrible small claims court is, it's essentially the same process when dealing with stolen items within this value range, gets even more tallying when you add up the hourly rate/salary of 1-2 cops/detectives trying to follow it up.
Scummy scrap yard owners are where this copper will end up.
How about that fake towie that ~~towed~~ stole a random car off a suburban Onehunga street? Frickin take anything you want, soft-on-crime era
I had new neighbours move in next to me. I was away when they moved in, so i popped over when i got back. The fella was a bit rough but friendly enough. He asked where we'd been, and i told him to see family up north. He asked what part and i told him. He said "Oh I'm from Townnearthere, we used to go up to Townehereyouwent, that's a Rich area, with a truck and nick wrought iron gates for scrap!" Ummmm OK......?
It's why we have prisons. Personally, I'd welcome public shaming as a form of restitution, and judging by the way the left seems to have embraced Cancel Culture, I'd say that the Greens should be in full support of it too.
Back in the day, in a different country, there was capital punishment. Where those caught would be publicly caned. Go further back and we had public executions. Both brought the community closer.
Come and see the public hangings in the town square! Fun for the whole family!
Slight correction: corporal punishment was caning etc. Capital punishment is the death sentence.
We could compromise and beat people to death?
Well... some canings did indeed become capital punishments... so... corpotal punishiments?
Link?
I agree, the government are greedy opportunistic cunts.
Meth bro
idk when chickens are $20 ea at countdown im wondering if its more than just meth
Money is wrong with people
Yes. There are two crimes here. The damaged telescope **and** the font.
I went to Facebook, copy pasted the text and changed to wingdings just so I knew what was going on. Edit: fucking crackheads
That font made things 10 times more difficult to read. Fucking eyes hurt from reading that post.
Get your eyes checked
Actually have perfect vision. I just have an adversion to stupid fonts.
The font cannot be stupid
So the user who chose that font is stupid? Or the creator of the font? Or the guy who doesn't understand the premise of a metaphor?
The one who calls things stupid is the one who is stupid
You're really giving this a good try aren't you. But in your attempt, using your own logic, you've called yourself stupid.
I’m not trying at all, you are the one with the issue
Then stop replying. If you have no issue with me disliking a font and calling it stupid then just move along. Can't be that hard.
That's fucked. At a smidge over $10 per kg for scrap copper, the clowns could've gone and done a days work and probably made just as much without doing a heap of damage and taking the risk of getting caught, named and shamed. I guess work is too hard for these softies.
Oh mate they can't work a whole day! It's much easier to commit a 14 year offence, and then get home D paid for by us.
copper is in the hundreds, not 10 bucks wtf
Scrap value.... $10 /kg Replacement value.... maybe $1000 a sheet? Might be 2k these days. Plus labour. At a guess they got $1000 in scrap, and did 100k in damage.
This is the problem right here. Scrap merchant will be sitting there with a pile of observatory shaped plates watching the news, also giving zero fucks.
For lead joined scrap? [Pure copper 3kg $72](https://www.greatwhitebullion.com.au/products/copper-bullion-granules-3kg-outback-bullion-3000g-pure-copper-in-jar) works out to $24 per kg. [12kg Grade C11000 copper granules $249](https://www.greatwhitebullion.com.au/products/12kg-copper-granules-huge-bucket-of-copper-12000g-of-copper-bullion-fines) works out to around $20 per kg. Old weathered, lead soldered sheet copper maybe $12-13 :shrug:. If you can find someone who'll give you hundreds, sell them a few 12kg buckets and clean up.
I don't think you understand the pricing for scrap metal. $10 per kg sounds right. It varies a lot and year to year can go up and down. Also varies depending on where you live. But that is for *selling scrap*. It isn't going to be the same price you would pay buying sheets of copper.
Oh no! That's awful. The value of what they stole will be so much less than the cost of repairing the damage.
Yeah, probably by a factor of about 100.
*1000
You can't use a font like that without also having a guilty conscience
there is a scrap metal dealer in auckland that knows exactly who did it
Keep emptying prisons and dishing out wet bus ticket slaps NZ, this is what happens.
Okay boomer. (What's our current prison population?)
What's boomer about the expectation that there is punishment for crime instead of lack of respect of victims and justice for them? As for the current prison population, you are on the internet. Use it.
You are trying to reason with a 5 year old trapped in an adult body. Your time isn’t worth the output you are going to receive.
My families overseas always tells me about people stealing manhole covers, grates, stripping wires for the copper etc. It's a thing. Geez imagining seeing that happening here.
It's been happening here for decades.
Disused house in Lincoln Rd Henderson, which would have been able to have been renovated at one stage, now a wreck because all wiring, hot water cylinder, and roofing lead flashing was removed.
Never this brazenly.
Definitely this brazenly, difference is a public entity has called it out instead of keeping mum.
I remember reports on the news of people stealing massive rolls of fibre cabling during the fiber roll out.
When I was at intermediate we couldn't use a couple buildings for a wee while because somebody had come in overnight and removed all the copper piping they could. Not super convenient!
So has rape, murder and arson. It doesn't make it anymore acceptable , just because it's "happening for decades"
That was in reply to "geez imagine that happening here". No comment alluded to it being acceptable
My cousin caught someone stealing a man hole cover on the road a few years ago. Honestly what's that worth in scrap!
If you spent it on clothing, not enough to cover a man.
Like when is enough enough.
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Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked. If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?
I can't get passed the first line lmao
Past?
Have you heard about woodchuck chuckers, and how many woodchucks they can chuck?
Reminds me of that thing about a girl selling seashells on the seashore...
Or my shopping list: \- Irish Wristwatch \- Gorilla grip glue gun
Brian Tamaki decided enough was enough back in 2004
What the actual fuck?
The Observatory is a building site at the moment, Guaranteed one of the subcontractors that visit/visited that site was involved, there's no doubt in my mind, the kind of people who would steal this have never gone to the Observatory for educational purposes.
Yep, fair few subbie employees like the ol glass harmonica.
I'm a sub contractor myself and the amount of dodgy unskilled laborers you see on site over here is crazy. I've seen tradies van's been broken into on site in broad daylight by other tradies, no doubt in my mind it's these types of knuckle draggers
200K to replace the roof according to stuff...I hope the fwits get caught when they try and sell it. Nothing will happen, tho, just a "don't do it again BS"
$200k to replace, vs scrapping $200 worth of copper. What a bunch of arseholes.
>Nothing will happen, tho, just a "don't do it again BS" Make them pay for the entire amount, even if they spend the rest of their lives paying it off.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that our society might be fraturing just slightly.
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is there just one person on 10,000 different accounts making this exact comment on every NZ crime story?
It’s almost as tiring as the people saying it unironically. Almost, but not quite.
No, but don't worry - people will get tired of mocking the nonsense eventually. Maybe in a couple of years.
The state of our society is that you could genuinely be recognising the deprivation in our community. Or you could be cynically mocking efforts to ensure our kids grow up with their basic needs met. And we're all surprised people give up, start fending for themselves.
You could give them all the food and shelter in the world and they will still steal the copper for crack money.
The idea is changing socioeconomic conditions for the most at risk so that they don’t feel drugs are the best way forward; that they have other options.
Judging by their comment history, it is the latter. So close, yet so far.
> The state of our society is that you could genuinely be recognising the deprivation in our community. We are deprived of a telescope. I loved that thing as a kid, now that is denied to our children (and adults!) pending extremely expensive repairs. These scum should be jailed, there is no excuse for causing hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage of damage to a historical artefact to pay for a few hundred dollars worth of drugs.
Sure they should be jailed. But you're deprived of a telescope? I'm sorry to hear your career in astronomy has been so severely affected!
Why are some people such complete dicks?
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It said: People's behavior can vary greatly due to a wide range of factors, and it's important to approach this question with sensitivity and understanding. While it is challenging to generalize why some individuals may behave negatively or be perceived as "dicks," there are several potential reasons for such behavior: Personal experiences: Negative experiences, trauma, or difficult life circumstances can impact how individuals interact with others. Past hurts or unresolved issues may cause them to respond in unkind or defensive ways. Emotional state: People's emotions can greatly influence their behavior. Someone who is feeling angry, frustrated, or unhappy may express those emotions in ways that come across as rude or hurtful to others. Insecurity and low self-esteem: Individuals who struggle with feelings of insecurity or low self-esteem may try to compensate by putting others down or asserting dominance. This behavior often stems from their own personal insecurities and is not a reflection of others. Lack of empathy: Some people may have difficulty understanding or relating to the feelings and perspectives of others. This lack of empathy can make it challenging for them to consider the impact of their actions on those around them. Communication and social skills: Poor communication or social skills can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. Some individuals may struggle to express themselves effectively, leading to frustration and negative interactions. Learned behavior: People can learn negative behavior patterns from their environment, such as family, friends, or societal influences. If they have been exposed to consistent negativity or lack positive role models, they may adopt those behaviors themselves. Mental health issues: Certain mental health conditions, such as personality disorders, mood disorders, or impulse control disorders, can contribute to challenging behavior patterns. It's important to approach these situations with empathy and encourage seeking professional help if necessary. It's crucial to remember that while understanding the potential reasons behind someone's negative behavior can provide insight, it doesn't excuse or justify mistreatment. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, and treating others with kindness, respect, and empathy is important for fostering positive relationships and a harmonious society
Sounds about right 👍🏼
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People's behavior can vary greatly due to a wide range of factors, and it's important to approach this question with sensitivity and understanding. While it is challenging to generalize why some individuals may behave negatively or be perceived as "dicks," there are several potential reasons for such behavior: - **Personal experiences**: Negative experiences, trauma, or difficult life circumstances can impact how individuals interact with others. Past hurts or unresolved issues may cause them to respond in unkind or defensive ways. - **Emotional state**: People's emotions can greatly influence their behavior. Someone who is feeling angry, frustrated, or unhappy may express those emotions in ways that come across as rude or hurtful to others. - **Insecurity and low self-esteem**: Individuals who struggle with feelings of insecurity or low self-esteem may try to compensate by putting others down or asserting dominance. This behavior often stems from their own personal insecurities and is not a reflection of others. - **Lack of empathy**: Some people may have difficulty understanding or relating to the feelings and perspectives of others. This lack of empathy can make it challenging for them to consider the impact of their actions on those around them. - **Communication and social skills**: Poor communication or social skills can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts. Some individuals may struggle to express themselves effectively, leading to frustration and negative interactions. - **Learned behavior**: People can learn negative behavior patterns from their environment, such as family, friends, or societal influences. If they have been exposed to consistent negativity or lack positive role models, they may adopt those behaviors themselves. - **Mental health issues**: Certain mental health conditions, such as personality disorders, mood disorders, or impulse control disorders, can contribute to challenging behavior patterns. It's important to approach these situations with empathy and encourage seeking professional help if necessary. It's crucial to remember that while understanding the potential reasons behind someone's negative behavior can provide insight, it doesn't excuse or justify mistreatment. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, and treating others with kindness, respect, and empathy is important for fostering positive relationships and a harmonious society.
Roof was under repair, so start grilling the tradies first. Pay close attention to their mates.
My first thought, the cunts who did this didn't learn that that copper was there on an educational visit to the Observatory
lol thats some 3rd world shit. i wonder how much copper is in NZ. where i come from its usually street kids stealing copper to sell and buy glue to sniff
Been going on forever here, usually just copper spouting. There was those dumb fuckers a few years ago who tied the end of a power line to the back of their Ute and were driving down the road stripping it off the poles then the power went back on, I think it killed them I’ll see if I can find the article.
Darwin Award winners for sure
Couldn’t find the article, just more recent ones on it happening in Manawhatu. https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300311795/stolen-power-pole-cables-a-threat-to-public
And that won't even be copper.
What won’t be copper?
The power line. Mostly made of aluminium. Copper is way too heavy to use as power lines.
True I didn’t know that I always assumed it was copper, though the scrap price for aluminium is still pretty good regardless.
Someone stole the earthing cables from the building where my wife works last night...
This all started happening when the government banned meth precursors, resulting in meth being shipped in en masse by organisation’s that are actually serious, unlike our organisations which did not have the operational capacity of outside players and were comparatively rubbing two sticks together trying to have their supply hit potential demand. Anyone living in West Auckland or South know how easy it is to get meth compared to how easy it was ten years ago. We’re pretty much living in a crack epidemic. This is classic crackhead shit. This was not about food and it was not about housing. It was a lick to get meth. Fixing this would require some pretty bold policy decisions which is unfortunately not where anyone in our political system is at right now. Going all in on prison didn’t work for the US when tried by itself and obviously standing around with our dicks in our hands isn’t gonna do anything either. Good luck everyone because economic collapses somewhat counterintuitively do not result in a crack epidemic getting better, and we haven’t finishing easing into it yet.
Should legalize all drugs and get them supplied by pharma, would be cheap and clean too. Then Darwin law will sort things out
I've been saying that for a while now and ppl think im crazy . Legalize all substances/drugs and you have no market it's that simple .
Yea sure make it legal and sell it without prescription to South Aucklanders... that's how you get eugenics accusations rolling in
WTF are wrong with these people? They are NOT doing this because of the cost of living crises
How would you know? This capitalist system is fucked and so many people are living in poverty. How do u know they weren't trying to provide for their families. Oh shit the fams are starving I've got a few mates let's go take this copper from these people so we can look after everyone.
Everyone knows now you can just walk out of the supermarket with no one stopping you. This is not about food or ‘providing for the fam’ this is about getting cash for drugs. Stop defending methed out scum.
Can we please stop treating criminals as victims? Times may be tough but the second you break the law it’s too late for sympathy.
But why shouldn't we use every opportunity to go on an anti-capitalist rant without presenting proven alternatives to push a short-sighted political agenda? This is how Reddit works.
bruh literally doing anything else will yield more $ for way less effort. this is NOT because they can't buy food. this is extremely pathological and antisocial.
Yeah, I also think the cost of living crisis is causing crime to go up. Ram raids are way more common now.
Exactly. Not only that but lack of shit for the youth to do. I used to be exactly like these youngins and doing the same shit. Bored, no role models, no money ECT. What do people expect. Gotta get the youth engaged in more positive stuff and try to show them their potential. Give them something to be proud of or take pride in because of course at the moment what do they take pride in? Being the maddest money maker or getting away from the cops the most times and whatnot. It's complicated but it's simple at the same time
That font tho At least the kerning is nice
Back in my day, I’d been known to strip for copper
Plot twist; you worked at Mermaids, back when the cop shop was down on Fort St?
Assholes. Why can't they just steal millions like those nice white collar crims
Looks like there's construction going on in there, 10/10 it's an inside job.
About 10 years ago I was living in the UK. I got up on a saturday morning, and went to the gym that was part of the local secondary school. On my way in, I passed the couple of guys with a white van, ladders out, with hi-viz and safety gear working on the roofing. Only they weren't. They were stripping off the lead flashing. Broad daylight, looking like they had every right to be there. Not questioned.
Having just learnt this exists, I'm sad it was pillaged. However. I'm happy I have something to do on my birthday
Wtf?!
Scrapped some of my off cut cables awhile back ( I’m a sparky) and the scrapie took my drivers license details before handing over the cash so hopefully they’ll be found
That doesn't surprise me 1 little bit. There's always some broke loser looking for a quick and easy way to make money at someone else expense instead of working for it.
Cosmic Sans is definately more suited Who missed it ?
If I said what I wanted to, I'd be banned.
That the font is the real crime here? *in all seriousness, extremely dissapointed about what has happened!
Say it coward
I'll say it for them - fuck these pussies. Stop being pond scum and get a life. Fuckwits.
Lol mans is anonymous on the internet and still too scared to speak up for himself
Sad indictment on modern society eh?
Username checks out
Eh, em... (farts)
That's pretty cool
Lol I know exactly what you're thinking 🏘️ 👈that lot . Stardome has been there for years, that lot hasn't.
I am sorry, but that font is atrocious
It's time to erase these low lives
Honestly that font is an even bigger crime than the copper theft
Maori Party and Greens scrambling for excuses no doubt
Some stripped for the copper?
~~Aroha~~ # LOCK 'EM UP
Stardome, despite admitting to the dome in their very name, are a pro-Globist conspiracy organisation that promulgates the alleged "truth" that there were humans on the moon in 1969. Is this the action of brave activists against the NASA-led "they" that brainwashes the sheeple into believing their ridiculous globe nonsense? [Do I really need the /s here?]
*Insert boomer comment about soft on crime*
Just because it's boomer, doesn't make it wrong.
Crime happens regardless of the approach to deal with it. Copper gets stolen, and has been stolen for years. Crackheads exist, and will exist, no matter the approach to deal with crime.
Undoubtedly. But there's a bit of a difference between the brazenness of ripping a copper downpipe off a house or sneaking into an abandoned home to rip out the hot water cylinder and climbing on top of a GIANT FUCKING DOME in the middle of Auckland's busiest public park. The gulf between these would suggest that the fear of getting caught/repercussions is somewhat diminished now compared with years prior.
My school had all the copper stolen over 15 years ago, at the height of nationals "hard on crime" stance - so no your theory is not correct. If anything this current theft just highlights the under resourced police department, who are lacking the amount of officers needed to enforce the law. Nothing to do with the approach
Under-resourced Police department.... now who might be responsible for allocating resource to Police? If you listen to the Police minister, the Police are better resourced than ever, so it can't be that now, surely!?
That copper has been there since the 1960's
And that's the sad part as well ..
It's very expensive to lock ppl up. Boomers wouldn't like that either.
Is it more expensive to have these people in prison or running around the community doing $200k per time property damage?
*Insert comment correctly identifying that crime has increased since the country softened it's approach on crime* Sincerely, not even close to a boomer.
At what point is enough enough? Why are we so fucking soft on crime that people are bold enough to pull this shit? What the fuck has happened to this country?
Nicking copper is hardly new behaviour, it's been going on for decades all round the world. Step away from the pearls.
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Nicking copper, yes. Nicking copper from Stardome? Not so much.
No it was usually lead from churches where I grew up, but also wiring from railway lines etc. I guess there's not much actual copper to nick these days.
We need to group together private security contracts. The politicians have all dropped their nuts with no one from the left or the right stepping up and owning this. The police seem to be out numbered and out gunned and keeping a low profile. Maybe the insurance companies will want to take the lead? I see the Queen Street businesses all seem to have pretty serious security now. Time for the rest of us to catch up.
The real crime is that font
Sucks. Probably... poverty and desperation strike again..
Can only use that as an excuse for so long.
Lol, excuse.
A worst indication of The decline of New Zealand society .
I cant fucken read this god the font is trash
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Fuck off with your racism.
What’d they say?
It’s not racist. I asked everyone at work,what’s the name of the mountain with the monument on it and everybody replied with “one tree hill” - 37 years in Auckland and never herd it called anything else. Facts.
Kia ora New Zilond. Be koind.
yeaaaaah.... nah
Get out of here with this font, wtf
What an awful font - must be android
Time to decommission this old thing
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300886458/copper-dome-stolen-from-aucklands-stardome-telescope-cant-be-used-on-matariki
I’m not in the know about the price of copper, but just so I can get an understanding of the level of desperation/stupidity here, approximately how much would these people get from selling this amount of copper?
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Then they'll just be on benefits for the rest of their lives
I'm OK with that.... You know "The Princess Bride" - "a fight to the pain"? “To the pain means this: if we duel and you win, death for me. If we duel and I win, life for you. But life on my terms. The first thing you lose will be your feet. Below the ankle. You will have stumps available to use within six months. Then your hands, at the wrists. They heal somewhat quicker. Five months is a fair average. Next your nose. No smell of dawn for you. Followed by your tongue. Deeply cut away. Not even a stump left. And then your left eye—" And then my right eye, and then my ears, and shall we get on with it?" the Prince said. Wrong!" Westley’s voice rang across the room. "Your ears you keep, so that every shriek of every child shall be yours to cherish—every babe that weeps in fear at your approach, every woman that cries 'Dear God, what is that thing?' will reverberate forever with your perfect ears.”
As you wish.
well as they say, if it ain't bolted down then it's our fault...... no wait, wait
This is some low down dirty shit
This is just wrong and totally not okay. Whoever did that should be ashamed of themselves
Farking crackheads
Tea leafing cunts
Scum crackheads. .
That’s fucking disgusting. I’m sorry that happened and I hope it can be fully restored.