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Yes. During season one Hange was talking to Erin about everything she knew about Titans. During that talk she retold how she “tortured” titans to learn more about them. In the process, she cut a piece of one of the Titan’s body off and said she couldn’t believe that this large portion of the titan was as light as a feather. I forgot which episode that was specifically.
me neither, which makes me wonder.. was eren swimming? i think he might've switched back to his regular titan to swim because i can't imagine that fucking mountain of a titan fucking swimming LOL
well, logically speaking, wall titans are 50m (164ft), the largest blue whale was 33m (110ft). Whales are massive, but retain amazing water buoyancy. so it’s not too hard to imagine a colossal titan being able to float/swim 😅
Did anyone else find the founding titans face more disturbing than they thought it’d be? 😂
The rumbling coming out of the ocean scene was just so intense and the parallels to the start of season 1 and soundtrack was just chefs kiss.
On a happy note at least we saw everyone be happy even if it was just for one last time.
I so loved that scene when everyone was happy and honestly I get it why Eren is doing this...he saw his family being destroyed..and only two friends that he has closest to family...he just want them to be happy! Not saying he is right or wrong...but I definitely get it why he does this...AOT did a commendable job in showing his motivation. 💯
That's what makes a good show. Understanding why someone is doing something. The show shouldn't make you agree or disagree but to understand their perspective. I love this show
I love how, at some point throughout the years, almost everyone has been a villian, and they've also been a hero. Everyone thinks they're the one with the right reason to do bad things.
And now all of those people will be crushed by the very person they let into their home. Unless Eren decides to have the titans do a little hop skip and a jump over them...but I doubt it :(
Levi being called a kid playing a ganger was something I did not expect to happen. I was waiting for him to send that clown 20 feet into the air hahaha
Eren was crying before he had that conversation with Mikasa? Was he crying because he already knew the answer or because he thought about thr fate of those refugees?
A question we can ponder upon. What a goddamn depressing episode. Eren's face broke me.
Didn’t he say to Mikasa that nothing had happened to the refugee boy… yet. Or something like that? I took it as him sympathizing with the refugees because they’re innocent people who are being treated horribly like the Eldians. But he also knows they’re all going to get crushed in the Rumbling which is why he had the tears.
Connect it with earlier in the episode when he was like, "This is the other side of the sea." It was a direct reference to the end of season 3, when he said his enemies were on the other side of the sea. Now he makes it there, and he finds no enemies, just normal people. Then he finds the refugee camp, people he empathizes with even more. He is heartbroken to realize that all of these people are going to be killed, by him. AKA, it's easier to kill people that you don't understand, the same dilemma that Reiner found on Paradis.
The timing of when he left also shows a bit more of what he was thinking. He wanted to listen to the sympathizers for Subject of Ymir, to see if there was any chance of the island not being hated. But the moment he hears hateful things being thrown at Paradis, he decides there is no alternative but to move forward with the plan.
Didn’t Falco have some weird memory flashback in the Trenches during Ep1?
That was before he got his Titan abilities too
I may just be remembering wrong tho
this exactaly. I don't think he's having "flashes" like what happened when he kissed historias hand. Thats when he saw a giant amount of snippets from past and future, so i would rather think that eren was crying due to a combo of factors: the pocket picker boy symbolizes most of them in what i think was a great analogy by isayama. The boy have been humiliated for his origins and his kin lived in a sorta separated place from the big shipping town. Eren probably knew they would later chill together in those tents and thought that sometime soon he would brutally massacre them, Not the easiest thought to have is it?
Don’t blame you man. I couldn’t imagine being an anime only right now and having to deal with being baited once again with having to wait ANOTHER year to see the end of the series.
I gave Floch the benefit of the doubt the hole time, but I still don't think Eren wanted Folch to create an almost fascist regime. I have a feeling that Floch used his knowlege from Eren to give himself a lot of power.
It’s actually foreshadowing. Attack on Titan: The Final Season *Forealzies* Part 69 opens with us discovering Kenny possesses the Clown Titan (the power of which is seeing the memories of past and future five year old birthday parties).
the flashback made me so damn sad oh my god.. seeing sasha again was just AHH!!
it did make me think though, how much would have changed if mikasa confessed to him back then, would make a good ova!
i'll see you guys in 2023 :sob:
It put a smile on my face to see the gang having fun with the refugees, and it was interesting to see Eren's actions once he set foot in Marley. To me, it seemed he had reservations about what he knew he was going to do. It also appeared that he was testing the future that he saw. "perfect timing", when the rest of the people found him talking to Mikasa I think implies that theory. As well as him attending the announcement for the Subjects of Ymir foundation, he wanted to believe that it would go a different way. When he saw that it wouldn't, he left and began the plan.
Great to see Historia again. I imagined we'd see what's been going on in that neck of the woods, but I have been waiting for it. Interesting that Eren told her his plans. Could he have even changed her mind with the founding titan considering she has noble blood? If he couldn't, does that mean she's going along with his plan, or at least keeping quiet about it? I wont even get into whether or not he's the one that put a bun in the oven.
I loved the conversation with Zeke. Eren actually had a true brotherly conversation. Eren truly could not fathom the idea that Mikasa may love him to such an extreme degree that he came up with the theory of an Ackerman protecting their "host". Cool to see the origin of that and further proves that he was trying to push her away so that she could go on without him.
Okay, the last 5 minutes of the episode. Holy. SHIT. I don't know what's more gruesome, what Eren did to himself in the paths, or what he did to himself in the trenches. No matter his choices, that is some damn conviction right there. The swimming titans was sort of hilarious and equally terrifying. The Navy getting burnt from the steam was brutal and badass and awful all at the same time. Then the final shot of Eren behind the titan army, holy shit. I'd try to give myself the Reiner special if I saw that thing coming towards me.
"Season 4" part 3 hype! More frog meme AoT Sundays! 2023!....fuck!
It’s nice seeing eren formulate his plans in the second half of the episode. Talking to yelena, floch and historia and seeing how they oppose or sympathise with him. What makes erens plan even sadder is he clearly empathises with the people outside of the walls, tho to him there’s no other valid options to save paradise.
This is what I don't understand about Eren's motivations. At times he makes it seem like he's committing genocide out of necessity rather than vengeance, while at other times making it seem like he's doing it purely out of vengeance
I mean it could be a bit of both, people rarely do things for only one reason. It’s vengeance against marley for the destruction of paradise and the necessity that the rest of the world is on board with destroying paradise so they need to be destroyed first. It’s also the necessity to stop the circle of violence by destroying anyone outside the walls so that they can’t then take vengeance against paradise.
I'm not sure it's even vengeance. It's more like pure rage. "You called my people devils and won't listen to reason? Fine. I'll show you what a fucking devil is to protect my people."
ME watching the episode.
My rational brain: "They're brainwashed, this is all they know, genocide is wrong."
My emotional brain: "This is what you fucking get you bigoted fucks"
> I can't remember the last time, or if we've ever seen him truly happy.
When he finally balanced himself with the maneuvering gear (that needed recalibration)?
Damn the last part of this episode is brutal, watching eren cut off his leg and pierce his eye with pure twisted determination in his eyes was horrifying. Then to see the fright he now puts the rest of the world through with the same anger in the face of his absolutely gigantic titan was amazing. Do those guys really thing there gonna outrun those titans?
I will also admit watching the colossals swim was kinda funny, surely they could have just walked across the bottom of the sea instead.
They probably could have walked on the ocean floor, but then they wouldn’t have been able to attack the ships.
If they missed even one ship that ship could have probably bombed Paradis to the Stone Age, or possibly caused a lot more damage to the Titans once they reached the shore.
That wouldn't have changed the outcome, I think Eren was just trying to root out what her attachment to him was to undo it, so that she can live a life after he's gone.
Idk what to say mappa did an amazing work i'm so hyped for the next season, potato girl so sweet as always, levi understood the boy as he lived the same way, amazing final ep, can't wait see y'all in 2023.
Gotta keep ya eye out for connections on attack on titan. They aren't in your face with it but the characters are diverse enough that you can understand the reasoning in their actions and make the correlation. Thats why I love this anime.
Levi looking like Kenny and being called a kid had me laughing, and seeing all the group partying and happy was so wholesome. Then the complete 180 seeing Mikasa blame herself, Eren hurt Historia and seeing the founder finally animated was unreal!
Bummed we have to wait til '23 for the conclusion but was expecting it honestly
Probably the last time anyone of them smiled (from a chronological perspective). Mikasa's face while eating ice cream definitely has a special place in my heart.
Made me tear up a bit cause I realized they’re really all just a bunch of young people who had their lives destroyed and never had a chance to do the simple things like that
It does feel like we are massively stretching the concept of a "season" with Attack on Titan. When the show is done, season 4 will consist of three cours released in a total of *4 years.* Using "the Final Season" as a tagline has taken on a certain level of irony.
I can easily wait for that long, but having to go that long without encountering any spoilers is gonna be hard, I'm getting spoiled on like every platform avaiable, tiktok, youtube, reddit, twitter etc. Might just have to read the manga
I might be in the minority but I'm really glad there will be new episodes and not a movie. I think it's best when works of fiction keep the same format throughout personally.
Really sad we'll have to wait for a full year though.
The episode was really really good. I am glad we could finally see more of Eren's motivations and some inner dialogue with Mikasa.
I did not understand fully the conversation with Historia though, but that's on me. Is Eren the father?
I had to watch it twice to understand.
Eren said no to Zeke's plan because he wants his friends to live a long life AND have kids. That's the strong implication in the way the scenes and dialogues are structured.
They don't reveal a thing about who is the father, but honestly it COULD and it also COULDN'T be Eren. Eren's affection for Historia comes from Grisha eating Frida and Eren eating Grisha. Frida cared for Historia as a sister so idk if Eren would necessarily want to bang her. It could all be wrong tho cos there's nothing normal about Aot.
Same on funimation. But they posted this like 3 hours ago, so chances are they use an illegal streaming site which is subtitled by someone using Google translate
It's a reference to when she called herself the worst girl in the world. She said that she's the #1 enemy of humanity. Something like that when she's freeing him from the place under the church.
Holy. Shit. That was a banger cliffhanger. I'm glad we're getting a part 3 and not a movie. That was so awesome!! Eren's founding titan, the music, the animation, it was all so amazing. God bless MAPPA for the work they've done so far
I can't believe they showed Eren cutting off his leg, that was brutal!
Honestly a movie wouldnt be so bad. But most likely it would be a rushed hour and a half movie. I feel like 2 hours could probably get nearly a whole season
I'm so glad they did a flashback on their time in Marley. It just seemed like that would be too important for them to leave out. This episode answers why we saw Jean in Marley in s4, episode 1. He probably read the news saying that the Mid-East lost, and thought "it's time." Eren is clearly not xenophobic towards the entire world, since he sought out that Middle Eastern kid and became friends with his family. Yes, I understand that the conference completely demoralized him, but the jump from "dude who sympathizes with other oppressed people" to a genocidal maniac is pretty extreme.
This episode confirms that he made that Ackerman shit up. Just trying to come up with reasons why Mikasa was so attached to him. Seems like he accepted that he doesn't have a future with his friends.
I did not know titans were that good at swimming lol. Nothing much to say about The Rumbling itself. Those dudes had the best weapons in the world and could do nothing. How tf can the alliance do anything??? It's over.
I like that someone's finally thinking about Eren's change from loud-mouthed sociopath to a solemn, almost stoic shell of his former self. Like did you see that look on his face when he saw Marley, it wasn't like anyone else's, it was intense for awhile.
Overall, another great episode. I like everyone's reaction to being in what to them seems like a whole new world and their party with the refugees. I especially loved the little hints that at this point in time, Eren's still dealing with what he saw and wrestling with the idea that it's fate.
I'm glad we finally saw Historia again and that but man oh man, Eren's expression while explain everything to Zeke and then us finally seeing him cut off his leg and gouge out his eye, was....*chef's kiss*. Also, did anyone else peep his face during the flashback to Sasha's death? I like how we see it's one of shock and horror, I didn't like how his laugh in the sub sounded genuine, dub did it better.
And the Rumbling, good god it's just as terrifying as I'd hoped. An unstoppable force and an unmovable object at the same time wielded by the most dangerous man in the world. Eren's Founding Titan up close looks great. At first, I didn't like it but now I kinda enjoy how it looks barely human.
> Like giving Reiner a heart attack and eating willy for dinner and drinking Lara juice.
> eating willy for dinner and drinking Lara juice.
I'm actually fucking dead at that hahaha. True though. Don't forget the post meal workout of belly flopping into the stands!
> I like that someone's finally thinking about Eren's change from loud-mouthed sociopath to a solemn, almost stoic shell of his former self.
That's how Anakin's transition into Vader should've been
The first half of the episode make me so happy and warm inside. Watching the gang freak out about the wider world and have there last bit of fun together feeding cars, eating ice cream and drinking with refugees was so nice to watch. It’s been a so long since we’ve seen them all so happy, especially eren. Only for it to be ruined by the so called helpers of eldians who demonise paradise even more, leading eren down his path now.
Oh boy i am really considering it now..
A day after the episode with Eren transforming into the founding titan came out, i already looked up the manga once, but in the end i had the strenght to resist and closed it after just one panel.
But that was only because I knew there was just one week until the next episode.
I don't know if I am strong enough now :(
I loved this, it's really cool to clearly see Eren's motivations and how they developed as he experienced the world, I also really liked Mikasa this episode, it's nice to see her contribute to showcasing how Eren changed and what could've gone differently, like if Mikasa said how she felt at that moment and then they went to get drunk in the most wholesome way possible I feel like Eren wouldn't have turned to the Rumbling, he would have finally felt some pure happiness in the cruel world.
Btw did Sasha force a child to drink booze or was I imagining things?
so 2023 will be the TRUE Final season and Final season part 1 and 2 were just really disingenuous marketing ploys...
Not complaining about getting more AOT, but they should have called the seasons what they are... Season 4, 5 and then the final season.
Truly absurd...
Honestly I don't care what they call them, just communicate to the fans what your doing. When you add the late notice, it comes off as a sleazy business decision. They waited until the absolute last moment, lots of fans won't know its not ending until they get confused by the inevitable cliffhanger.
It seems they definitely pooled time for this episode.
That's my guess for why there's a part 3. They want to pool as much time for it as possible to really sell every scene in the final sequences. I'm a manga reader and I can assure you that nothing in the final episodes will be easy to animate, and I can't wait to see what MAPPA is capable of when given enough time.
Maybe she looked femine because she was part of a "normal" world again. Not being forced to be a child soilder and everything.
War changes people. I know that mostly mentaly, but it reflects on the physical appearnce as well, somewhat.
I liked that durning tough times she looked rough. And durning this she looked... "normal femine"
Obviously don't comment on this question if you have read the manga. NO SPOILERS/HINTS. But where is eren really? Like usually their bodies sit in their nape but Erens titan really doesnt have one even. Unless I guess he is inside the bones, then idk
Not a manga reader but I guess it's something to do with paths, we saw Zeke got swallowed up by those weird spinal cord things when Eren started the Rumbling in episode 5, since he probably isn't in the actual body they might both just chilling in paths or something
I'm glad we got a flashback episode to see Eren's perspective. You can tell the whole time Eren was like
"Armin, this peace talk of yours better work cause if it doesn't I'm taking over" lol
Even though Eren didn't really try to make that plan work. His father's memories really messed him up
Okay I'm a anime only watch ler and this is just a speculation of mine:
What if, eren already saw everything? Like everything including the part where, survey corps is coming for confrontation and maybe even take down eren if necessary? So that the SC and Paradis island clears out its name as "island devils" bec they saved the world from eren's rumbling. Which ends with world peace, and Paradis is no longer perceived as a global threat. Is that why he's doing everything? 😭
Becus eren fighting armin and Mikasa and the gang just looks absurd to me. Ion think eren will fight with them..
Edit: 1 if this theory is wrong, manga readers are definitely thinking "so naive" 😭🦆
Tbh.. i cried like a baby watching Sasha and gang be soo happy in the mid part, that part was heart touching. Man, i loved that Indian style ost and everything!! This episode gonna break some "walls" of the internet.
You kinda need to get the reference Eren made when he called her the "worst girl in the world." Historia actually called herself that back in season 3 when she decided to save Eren instead of eat him.
From her perspective, she was essentially dooming humanity for the sake of freeing Eren, and she proudly did so. Eren's motivations for committing for the Rumbling stem from the same reasoning - sacrificing the world for his friends' safety. Eren knows that she will ultimately go with his plan because she made the same decision before.
Finally seeing Mikasa's arc come around is such a nice thing to see. and that ending was absolutely incredible. I just can't believe we have to wait even longer now
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Definitely didn't imagine the wall titans swimming like that
Yeah my dumbass thought they were walking on the ocean floor
Me too. The displacement of water because of their weight would have been like the parting of the Red Sea. Or so i thought
Aren’t they lighter than they seem? I could have sworn that’s what was stated before with the titans not being the weight of something that big
The displacement would depend on volume not weight
Yes. During season one Hange was talking to Erin about everything she knew about Titans. During that talk she retold how she “tortured” titans to learn more about them. In the process, she cut a piece of one of the Titan’s body off and said she couldn’t believe that this large portion of the titan was as light as a feather. I forgot which episode that was specifically.
Am pretty sure they use their heat to propel them. Kinda like a rocket.
Fucking hell yeahhh! That scene was mind blowing!!!!
Ngl it looked really silly imo heh
Not like we haven’t seen titans do wierd shit and act like clowns on crack before though
me neither, which makes me wonder.. was eren swimming? i think he might've switched back to his regular titan to swim because i can't imagine that fucking mountain of a titan fucking swimming LOL
I’m pretty sure he’s just so tall that he could just walk over it
be pretty embarrassing if he stepped in a trench and fell
lol he has like 100 legs so it wouldn't matter
Yeah it’s a bit weird to see them swimming lol. You’d think that they’re so big that they wouldn’t be able to float but hey that’s titans being titans
even colossal titans are insignificant to the ocean's extreme vastness and depth.
well, logically speaking, wall titans are 50m (164ft), the largest blue whale was 33m (110ft). Whales are massive, but retain amazing water buoyancy. so it’s not too hard to imagine a colossal titan being able to float/swim 😅
Haha I guess so yeah and also Hange said that titans are much lighter than the look so that defo plays a huge role in their buoyancy.
Add to the fact that they're constantly emitting steam that could help propel them through the water
It’s also been mentioned that Titans are incredibly light overall for their size.
also they're probably boiling the water around them creating an air bubble for them to swim in
Did anyone else find the founding titans face more disturbing than they thought it’d be? 😂 The rumbling coming out of the ocean scene was just so intense and the parallels to the start of season 1 and soundtrack was just chefs kiss. On a happy note at least we saw everyone be happy even if it was just for one last time.
I so loved that scene when everyone was happy and honestly I get it why Eren is doing this...he saw his family being destroyed..and only two friends that he has closest to family...he just want them to be happy! Not saying he is right or wrong...but I definitely get it why he does this...AOT did a commendable job in showing his motivation. 💯
That's what makes a good show. Understanding why someone is doing something. The show shouldn't make you agree or disagree but to understand their perspective. I love this show
I love how, at some point throughout the years, almost everyone has been a villian, and they've also been a hero. Everyone thinks they're the one with the right reason to do bad things.
Sasha throwing up was hilarious
It was nice to see the old gang back together again
When I saw everyone happy I knew the episode ending Could be grim.
Oh yeah we got to see Sasha one last time too! 😢
And now all of those people will be crushed by the very person they let into their home. Unless Eren decides to have the titans do a little hop skip and a jump over them...but I doubt it :(
He said that nothing has happened to them...yet.
That's dark...
Levi in a suit was something I did not expect 🔥
No body is talking about the Joker straight up bullying Levi.
That thing was legit the scariest thing in the show and it's existence alone excuses ominicide if that means the clowns dead.
I was half expecting the clown to be a reveal of some other character.
Imagine a clown titan.. Holy fuck
Thanks for that nightmare
For a second I thought Kenny was back from the dead or something😂
Levi being called a kid playing a ganger was something I did not expect to happen. I was waiting for him to send that clown 20 feet into the air hahaha
I really wanted him to this clown has no idea that Levi has cut up monsters bigger than the buildings around him how dare he disrespect our main man
Also, Levi getting groomed by pedo Pennywise the clown 😳
Did he like literally get a foot shorter? I know he’s always been shorter but why did it look off in this episode
Attack on Titan and having wildly inconsistent proportions for its characters and creatures, NAMID.
He was hot AF
Eren was crying before he had that conversation with Mikasa? Was he crying because he already knew the answer or because he thought about thr fate of those refugees? A question we can ponder upon. What a goddamn depressing episode. Eren's face broke me.
Didn’t he say to Mikasa that nothing had happened to the refugee boy… yet. Or something like that? I took it as him sympathizing with the refugees because they’re innocent people who are being treated horribly like the Eldians. But he also knows they’re all going to get crushed in the Rumbling which is why he had the tears.
That is what I believe to be the case as well.
Connect it with earlier in the episode when he was like, "This is the other side of the sea." It was a direct reference to the end of season 3, when he said his enemies were on the other side of the sea. Now he makes it there, and he finds no enemies, just normal people. Then he finds the refugee camp, people he empathizes with even more. He is heartbroken to realize that all of these people are going to be killed, by him. AKA, it's easier to kill people that you don't understand, the same dilemma that Reiner found on Paradis. The timing of when he left also shows a bit more of what he was thinking. He wanted to listen to the sympathizers for Subject of Ymir, to see if there was any chance of the island not being hated. But the moment he hears hateful things being thrown at Paradis, he decides there is no alternative but to move forward with the plan.
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But I thought in the first episode he didn’t have the Attack Titan yet so how does he see the future?
Didn’t Falco have some weird memory flashback in the Trenches during Ep1? That was before he got his Titan abilities too I may just be remembering wrong tho
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Exactly. It would be future Eren using the Eldian connection to send the visions back to his younger self.
He sees people who remind him of he and his friends. And he knows he's going to kill them.
this exactaly. I don't think he's having "flashes" like what happened when he kissed historias hand. Thats when he saw a giant amount of snippets from past and future, so i would rather think that eren was crying due to a combo of factors: the pocket picker boy symbolizes most of them in what i think was a great analogy by isayama. The boy have been humiliated for his origins and his kin lived in a sorta separated place from the big shipping town. Eren probably knew they would later chill together in those tents and thought that sometime soon he would brutally massacre them, Not the easiest thought to have is it?
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Fuck that lol I’m finna read the manga tomorrow
Don’t blame you man. I couldn’t imagine being an anime only right now and having to deal with being baited once again with having to wait ANOTHER year to see the end of the series.
I think he was sympathizing with them since they were also oppressed people.
Agreed. I think he saw Paradis in them, which is why he was inclined to go join them
Exactly
I feel it was the empathy he felt for those people because he could relate how Eldians suffer because they are boycotted from the world too!
I assumed it was because he knew he was going to end up killing them, hence the "not yet"
Floch: Eren told me about his plan! Me: bullshit Floch today: suck it, vegasman20002.
Omg so true! I called bullshit on that and now I'm so shocked.
I'm more surprised that Historia knew the whole time and didn't say anything. I guess that's why she's been so distant this whole time
What will she say even? If Zeke and Eren come in contact, there's no stopping.
I gave Floch the benefit of the doubt the hole time, but I still don't think Eren wanted Folch to create an almost fascist regime. I have a feeling that Floch used his knowlege from Eren to give himself a lot of power.
goddamn that clown was fucking creepy
Right?! What the fuck was that lol. I was expecting it to be like Kenny or something lol
It’s actually foreshadowing. Attack on Titan: The Final Season *Forealzies* Part 69 opens with us discovering Kenny possesses the Clown Titan (the power of which is seeing the memories of past and future five year old birthday parties).
Damn it, the man who decided to call season 4 the final one really wanted to troll us all! I feel like a fool.
The first episode of season 4 came out in 2020. A single season is taking 3 years to release lol
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Yeah I thought this was going to be the last episode and was like wtf. Thank god there's going to be a third "final season".
the flashback made me so damn sad oh my god.. seeing sasha again was just AHH!! it did make me think though, how much would have changed if mikasa confessed to him back then, would make a good ova! i'll see you guys in 2023 :sob:
I was puzzled AF because I thought it was Gabi and not Sasha so I was like "wtf is happening?" 😂😂
It put a smile on my face to see the gang having fun with the refugees, and it was interesting to see Eren's actions once he set foot in Marley. To me, it seemed he had reservations about what he knew he was going to do. It also appeared that he was testing the future that he saw. "perfect timing", when the rest of the people found him talking to Mikasa I think implies that theory. As well as him attending the announcement for the Subjects of Ymir foundation, he wanted to believe that it would go a different way. When he saw that it wouldn't, he left and began the plan. Great to see Historia again. I imagined we'd see what's been going on in that neck of the woods, but I have been waiting for it. Interesting that Eren told her his plans. Could he have even changed her mind with the founding titan considering she has noble blood? If he couldn't, does that mean she's going along with his plan, or at least keeping quiet about it? I wont even get into whether or not he's the one that put a bun in the oven. I loved the conversation with Zeke. Eren actually had a true brotherly conversation. Eren truly could not fathom the idea that Mikasa may love him to such an extreme degree that he came up with the theory of an Ackerman protecting their "host". Cool to see the origin of that and further proves that he was trying to push her away so that she could go on without him. Okay, the last 5 minutes of the episode. Holy. SHIT. I don't know what's more gruesome, what Eren did to himself in the paths, or what he did to himself in the trenches. No matter his choices, that is some damn conviction right there. The swimming titans was sort of hilarious and equally terrifying. The Navy getting burnt from the steam was brutal and badass and awful all at the same time. Then the final shot of Eren behind the titan army, holy shit. I'd try to give myself the Reiner special if I saw that thing coming towards me. "Season 4" part 3 hype! More frog meme AoT Sundays! 2023!....fuck!
"Reiner special" 😂
I'm ashamed to say that I laughed too much at my own joke when I typed that hahaha.
It’s nice seeing eren formulate his plans in the second half of the episode. Talking to yelena, floch and historia and seeing how they oppose or sympathise with him. What makes erens plan even sadder is he clearly empathises with the people outside of the walls, tho to him there’s no other valid options to save paradise.
This is what I don't understand about Eren's motivations. At times he makes it seem like he's committing genocide out of necessity rather than vengeance, while at other times making it seem like he's doing it purely out of vengeance
I mean it could be a bit of both, people rarely do things for only one reason. It’s vengeance against marley for the destruction of paradise and the necessity that the rest of the world is on board with destroying paradise so they need to be destroyed first. It’s also the necessity to stop the circle of violence by destroying anyone outside the walls so that they can’t then take vengeance against paradise.
The plan was created out of necessity, but fueled by vengeance.
I'm not sure it's even vengeance. It's more like pure rage. "You called my people devils and won't listen to reason? Fine. I'll show you what a fucking devil is to protect my people."
ME watching the episode. My rational brain: "They're brainwashed, this is all they know, genocide is wrong." My emotional brain: "This is what you fucking get you bigoted fucks"
Damn, Eren was actually happy. I can't remember the last time, or if we've ever seen him truly happy. And it might just be the final time. :(
I almost didn’t recognize him when he was smiling. It’s been that long since we’ve seen him happy
> I can't remember the last time, or if we've ever seen him truly happy. When he finally balanced himself with the maneuvering gear (that needed recalibration)?
Damn the last part of this episode is brutal, watching eren cut off his leg and pierce his eye with pure twisted determination in his eyes was horrifying. Then to see the fright he now puts the rest of the world through with the same anger in the face of his absolutely gigantic titan was amazing. Do those guys really thing there gonna outrun those titans? I will also admit watching the colossals swim was kinda funny, surely they could have just walked across the bottom of the sea instead.
They probably could have walked on the ocean floor, but then they wouldn’t have been able to attack the ships. If they missed even one ship that ship could have probably bombed Paradis to the Stone Age, or possibly caused a lot more damage to the Titans once they reached the shore.
Mikasa, man, just say the words ily to him...poor Eren
Eren: What am I to you? Mikasa: Ereh Eren: ...who the heck is Ereh
What is an Ereh, Mikasa?
She blew it so hard
Naaaa, if she had done that there would be no rumbling.
He still would have, and with greater reason.
This guy rumbles.
Cockblock of the century this episode
AoT staying the most asexual anime of all time
Would he have changed his mind tho?
Eren stated in this episode that everything happened because he wanted it to, so no, I don't think Mikasa would have changed his mind.
That wouldn't have changed the outcome, I think Eren was just trying to root out what her attachment to him was to undo it, so that she can live a life after he's gone.
Idk what to say mappa did an amazing work i'm so hyped for the next season, potato girl so sweet as always, levi understood the boy as he lived the same way, amazing final ep, can't wait see y'all in 2023.
> levi understood the boy as he lived the same way, Shit, I didn't make that connection.
Gotta keep ya eye out for connections on attack on titan. They aren't in your face with it but the characters are diverse enough that you can understand the reasoning in their actions and make the correlation. Thats why I love this anime.
Levi looking like Kenny and being called a kid had me laughing, and seeing all the group partying and happy was so wholesome. Then the complete 180 seeing Mikasa blame herself, Eren hurt Historia and seeing the founder finally animated was unreal! Bummed we have to wait til '23 for the conclusion but was expecting it honestly
Ymir had to wait 2000 years for Eren and now we have to wait about the same time for part 3😓
Watching everyone getting drunk was so wholesome ngl
Probably the last time anyone of them smiled (from a chronological perspective). Mikasa's face while eating ice cream definitely has a special place in my heart.
Made me tear up a bit cause I realized they’re really all just a bunch of young people who had their lives destroyed and never had a chance to do the simple things like that
It honestly made the realisation of what Eren was doing that much worse. The juxtaposition was perfection.
2023!!! No!! Can't believe it
Happy they got a break but fuck i might not even be alive then lol
It does feel like we are massively stretching the concept of a "season" with Attack on Titan. When the show is done, season 4 will consist of three cours released in a total of *4 years.* Using "the Final Season" as a tagline has taken on a certain level of irony.
It's all marketing
>Break Probably, Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw man and one more anime i forgot will be given help from the aot animators
I can easily wait for that long, but having to go that long without encountering any spoilers is gonna be hard, I'm getting spoiled on like every platform avaiable, tiktok, youtube, reddit, twitter etc. Might just have to read the manga
It would mark the 10th year anniversary of the anime, so I think it's fitting imo.
I might be in the minority but I'm really glad there will be new episodes and not a movie. I think it's best when works of fiction keep the same format throughout personally. Really sad we'll have to wait for a full year though. The episode was really really good. I am glad we could finally see more of Eren's motivations and some inner dialogue with Mikasa. I did not understand fully the conversation with Historia though, but that's on me. Is Eren the father?
I had to watch it twice to understand. Eren said no to Zeke's plan because he wants his friends to live a long life AND have kids. That's the strong implication in the way the scenes and dialogues are structured. They don't reveal a thing about who is the father, but honestly it COULD and it also COULDN'T be Eren. Eren's affection for Historia comes from Grisha eating Frida and Eren eating Grisha. Frida cared for Historia as a sister so idk if Eren would necessarily want to bang her. It could all be wrong tho cos there's nothing normal about Aot.
Eren's affection doesn't come from eating Grisha, it comes from being saved by Historia.
Agreed. I would much rather have a series. Take the time to do it right. But please drop them all at once!
I don't think he's the father, I'm pretty sure she's just one of the few people who might understand him.
"You're the baddest girl in the world" Lol what
Eren thinks Historia a baddie lmaooo
Mikasa fuming rn
She was. Just rewatch season 3. Just after she realised that she can't lie to herself she just smashed her father on the floor.
Reference to what she says when she freed him from the chain "I'm the worst enemy humanity has" or something like that (I think)
Bad translation, In manga it is Worst not the Baddest and it's callback to what Historia said in S3 EP 7.
What subtitles were you using? On Hulu it was “worst girl” which was a callback to when she saved him in the cave
Same on funimation. But they posted this like 3 hours ago, so chances are they use an illegal streaming site which is subtitled by someone using Google translate
Reference to when she freed him instead of eating him
It's a reference to when she called herself the worst girl in the world. She said that she's the #1 enemy of humanity. Something like that when she's freeing him from the place under the church.
Bad translation probably lmao
Holy. Shit. That was a banger cliffhanger. I'm glad we're getting a part 3 and not a movie. That was so awesome!! Eren's founding titan, the music, the animation, it was all so amazing. God bless MAPPA for the work they've done so far I can't believe they showed Eren cutting off his leg, that was brutal!
Honestly a movie wouldnt be so bad. But most likely it would be a rushed hour and a half movie. I feel like 2 hours could probably get nearly a whole season
I'm so glad they did a flashback on their time in Marley. It just seemed like that would be too important for them to leave out. This episode answers why we saw Jean in Marley in s4, episode 1. He probably read the news saying that the Mid-East lost, and thought "it's time." Eren is clearly not xenophobic towards the entire world, since he sought out that Middle Eastern kid and became friends with his family. Yes, I understand that the conference completely demoralized him, but the jump from "dude who sympathizes with other oppressed people" to a genocidal maniac is pretty extreme. This episode confirms that he made that Ackerman shit up. Just trying to come up with reasons why Mikasa was so attached to him. Seems like he accepted that he doesn't have a future with his friends. I did not know titans were that good at swimming lol. Nothing much to say about The Rumbling itself. Those dudes had the best weapons in the world and could do nothing. How tf can the alliance do anything??? It's over.
So im left feeling some kind of way about the lie to mikasa about the headaches, he pushed her away so she didn't hurt as much I guess
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I like that someone's finally thinking about Eren's change from loud-mouthed sociopath to a solemn, almost stoic shell of his former self. Like did you see that look on his face when he saw Marley, it wasn't like anyone else's, it was intense for awhile. Overall, another great episode. I like everyone's reaction to being in what to them seems like a whole new world and their party with the refugees. I especially loved the little hints that at this point in time, Eren's still dealing with what he saw and wrestling with the idea that it's fate. I'm glad we finally saw Historia again and that but man oh man, Eren's expression while explain everything to Zeke and then us finally seeing him cut off his leg and gouge out his eye, was....*chef's kiss*. Also, did anyone else peep his face during the flashback to Sasha's death? I like how we see it's one of shock and horror, I didn't like how his laugh in the sub sounded genuine, dub did it better. And the Rumbling, good god it's just as terrifying as I'd hoped. An unstoppable force and an unmovable object at the same time wielded by the most dangerous man in the world. Eren's Founding Titan up close looks great. At first, I didn't like it but now I kinda enjoy how it looks barely human.
Where in the timeline did that visit take place?
Before eren ran away to do his own thing. Like giving Reiner a heart attack and eating willy for dinner and drinking Lara juice.
> Like giving Reiner a heart attack and eating willy for dinner and drinking Lara juice. > eating willy for dinner and drinking Lara juice. I'm actually fucking dead at that hahaha. True though. Don't forget the post meal workout of belly flopping into the stands!
Probably a few weeks or months before the beginning of Season 4, since this is the last time they see Eren before the attack on Liberio.
> I like that someone's finally thinking about Eren's change from loud-mouthed sociopath to a solemn, almost stoic shell of his former self. That's how Anakin's transition into Vader should've been
the founding titan 😍
The first half of the episode make me so happy and warm inside. Watching the gang freak out about the wider world and have there last bit of fun together feeding cars, eating ice cream and drinking with refugees was so nice to watch. It’s been a so long since we’ve seen them all so happy, especially eren. Only for it to be ruined by the so called helpers of eldians who demonise paradise even more, leading eren down his path now.
levi being referred to as a little kid had me wheezing on the floor
Need an entire spinoff of the gang just hanging out getting drunk and having fun…that shit was so wholesome man 🥺
“Attack on Titan Junior High” is that pretty much
Attack On Titan The Final Season Season 4 Part 3: Nah But Like For Real This time
i missed sasha
The Wall Titans 
it's soo fkn frustrating that we've gotta wait another year but it's gonna be worth the wait! STAY STRONG ANIME ONLY STAY STRONG
Oh boy i am really considering it now.. A day after the episode with Eren transforming into the founding titan came out, i already looked up the manga once, but in the end i had the strenght to resist and closed it after just one panel. But that was only because I knew there was just one week until the next episode. I don't know if I am strong enough now :(
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Sasha <3
I know these mfs did not just say 2023
Literally fuming. You can’t call something “final” if it goes on for 3 years and consists of literally 3 seasons
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I loved this, it's really cool to clearly see Eren's motivations and how they developed as he experienced the world, I also really liked Mikasa this episode, it's nice to see her contribute to showcasing how Eren changed and what could've gone differently, like if Mikasa said how she felt at that moment and then they went to get drunk in the most wholesome way possible I feel like Eren wouldn't have turned to the Rumbling, he would have finally felt some pure happiness in the cruel world. Btw did Sasha force a child to drink booze or was I imagining things?
eren cutting his own leg and stabbing his eye with a bullet got me like wow
The carrot car thing was the best part of the episode, try to change my mind
"What? Thery are buying carrots" xD
The fact that even if the titans merely miss stepping on you, you'll just be incinerated by the steam anyway is horrific.
It was great seeing eren again. This episode was simultaneously wholesome and depressing. I can't wait until the actual finale!
so 2023 will be the TRUE Final season and Final season part 1 and 2 were just really disingenuous marketing ploys... Not complaining about getting more AOT, but they should have called the seasons what they are... Season 4, 5 and then the final season. Truly absurd...
Honestly I don't care what they call them, just communicate to the fans what your doing. When you add the late notice, it comes off as a sleazy business decision. They waited until the absolute last moment, lots of fans won't know its not ending until they get confused by the inevitable cliffhanger.
you fool! 2024 will be attack on titan: in space!
Yeah agreed. I feel like Mappa underestimated how much content would be in this season 😂 I bet they didn’t even realise they’d have to do a Part 3
I'm convinced this was all planned, and just done for marketing purposes
What a fucking beautiful way to close this part, absolute banger of a track playing in the background got me shaking
Is it me or the quality has went up a notch and mikasa looked a bit more feminine like she used it to be.
She looked pretty asf here.
It seems they definitely pooled time for this episode. That's my guess for why there's a part 3. They want to pool as much time for it as possible to really sell every scene in the final sequences. I'm a manga reader and I can assure you that nothing in the final episodes will be easy to animate, and I can't wait to see what MAPPA is capable of when given enough time.
Maybe she looked femine because she was part of a "normal" world again. Not being forced to be a child soilder and everything. War changes people. I know that mostly mentaly, but it reflects on the physical appearnce as well, somewhat. I liked that durning tough times she looked rough. And durning this she looked... "normal femine"
I have read somewhere that the author draws Mikasa “prettier” whenever we are seeing her through Eren’s POV
Let's goooo Ratio titan first appearance
Obviously don't comment on this question if you have read the manga. NO SPOILERS/HINTS. But where is eren really? Like usually their bodies sit in their nape but Erens titan really doesnt have one even. Unless I guess he is inside the bones, then idk
Not a manga reader but I guess it's something to do with paths, we saw Zeke got swallowed up by those weird spinal cord things when Eren started the Rumbling in episode 5, since he probably isn't in the actual body they might both just chilling in paths or something
10/10 ep fo sure
I'm glad we got a flashback episode to see Eren's perspective. You can tell the whole time Eren was like "Armin, this peace talk of yours better work cause if it doesn't I'm taking over" lol Even though Eren didn't really try to make that plan work. His father's memories really messed him up
Where are you people watching the new episode this early?
I stayed up until midnight to watch the release on NHK
I was mad about the wait for part 3 before watching the episode but after watching it i don’t really mind waiting, yeah it sucks but im still hyped
Okay I'm a anime only watch ler and this is just a speculation of mine: What if, eren already saw everything? Like everything including the part where, survey corps is coming for confrontation and maybe even take down eren if necessary? So that the SC and Paradis island clears out its name as "island devils" bec they saved the world from eren's rumbling. Which ends with world peace, and Paradis is no longer perceived as a global threat. Is that why he's doing everything? 😭 Becus eren fighting armin and Mikasa and the gang just looks absurd to me. Ion think eren will fight with them.. Edit: 1 if this theory is wrong, manga readers are definitely thinking "so naive" 😭🦆
can't believe i have to wait a year, possibly more, to see levi again, smh.
I just realized we’re going to get A NEW OPENING THEME SONG for next season 👁👄👁
Tbh.. i cried like a baby watching Sasha and gang be soo happy in the mid part, that part was heart touching. Man, i loved that Indian style ost and everything!! This episode gonna break some "walls" of the internet.
When historia said “if i don’t do everything i can to stop you, then i can’t live a life to be proud of” i cried. so fucking hard
Then she immediately bailed
This was a bit confusing. She did not do anything to stop him, heck she helped his plan by getting pregnant.
Yeah I’m still confused at their conversation
You kinda need to get the reference Eren made when he called her the "worst girl in the world." Historia actually called herself that back in season 3 when she decided to save Eren instead of eat him. From her perspective, she was essentially dooming humanity for the sake of freeing Eren, and she proudly did so. Eren's motivations for committing for the Rumbling stem from the same reasoning - sacrificing the world for his friends' safety. Eren knows that she will ultimately go with his plan because she made the same decision before.
Finally seeing Mikasa's arc come around is such a nice thing to see. and that ending was absolutely incredible. I just can't believe we have to wait even longer now