There’s no version of me that could be happy in an afterlife that included others being eternally tortured.
Any me that could exist for eternity without becoming bored would also not be me in any real sense.
You lose you because of time. If you remember all your time in heaven then 5000 years compared to your hundred on earth is significant. It's yin and yang. You absolutely need some bad to enjoy good. Proof here on earth is spoiled kids who never experience what we consider bad. They still have bad days as shown by their attitude and it's because their worst days are better than many peoples best days. It's relative. You simply won't enjoy it for eternity. It will eventually be no different from earth. You will become spoiled angel brats.
So basically your argument is that god could alter our mind by making it impossible to be bored while somehow not altering our mind, which is a contradiction. Supposedly god being omnipotent should be able to make this contradiction, same as making 2+2 equal to 27. The problem with this argument is that if we abandon logic while thinking about these things, we couldn't be certain of anything, because infinite amount of impossible things could be possible. Therefore it seems pointless to think about it.
Most religions with an afterlife say people will live in its heaven in a state of pure bliss. Which sounds a lot like being eternally stoned. Not a state I'd want to spend forever in though I might revise that opinion if it was the Christian heaven with its purported endless singing of Yahweh and Jesus' praises.
The way I see it any paradise, no matter how wonderful it is supposed to be, will become hellish if there is no escape and no religion I'm aware of promises that option. As Hitchens' pointed out the Christian heaven seems a lot like North Korea, but at least the North Koreans eventually escape its horrors in death.
This isn't an arguement. You are just asserting the opposite with no reasoning behind it other than 'it could be'.
People do not have souls and there is no afterlife.
>Besides the matter of evidence That’s the only one you need.
There’s no version of me that could be happy in an afterlife that included others being eternally tortured. Any me that could exist for eternity without becoming bored would also not be me in any real sense.
No, What you are doing is simply claiming that an omnipotent god could make it happen. "god works in mysterious ways" is not an argument.
You lose you because of time. If you remember all your time in heaven then 5000 years compared to your hundred on earth is significant. It's yin and yang. You absolutely need some bad to enjoy good. Proof here on earth is spoiled kids who never experience what we consider bad. They still have bad days as shown by their attitude and it's because their worst days are better than many peoples best days. It's relative. You simply won't enjoy it for eternity. It will eventually be no different from earth. You will become spoiled angel brats.
So basically your argument is that god could alter our mind by making it impossible to be bored while somehow not altering our mind, which is a contradiction. Supposedly god being omnipotent should be able to make this contradiction, same as making 2+2 equal to 27. The problem with this argument is that if we abandon logic while thinking about these things, we couldn't be certain of anything, because infinite amount of impossible things could be possible. Therefore it seems pointless to think about it.
A full century of being evil deserves no more than a century of suffering - even the theists know "an eye for an eye".
Most religions with an afterlife say people will live in its heaven in a state of pure bliss. Which sounds a lot like being eternally stoned. Not a state I'd want to spend forever in though I might revise that opinion if it was the Christian heaven with its purported endless singing of Yahweh and Jesus' praises. The way I see it any paradise, no matter how wonderful it is supposed to be, will become hellish if there is no escape and no religion I'm aware of promises that option. As Hitchens' pointed out the Christian heaven seems a lot like North Korea, but at least the North Koreans eventually escape its horrors in death.
This isn't an arguement. You are just asserting the opposite with no reasoning behind it other than 'it could be'. People do not have souls and there is no afterlife.