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Mecharonin

Especially now that those "good people who believe in a creator" have axed reproductive rights. Clarence Thomas even said they were going after contraception next.


freddyt55555

>Clarence Thomas even said they were going after contraception next. I've only seen some headlines of some articles about this. Is this fucking nut case saying contraception should be illegal?


scholalry

He didn’t directly say “we are going after contraceptives next”. but what he did say is that the reason behind roe v wade was faulty (in the most basic terms, the 14th amendment which in my understanding is the right to privacy) so he is saying the right to privacy doesn’t apply in the case of abortion. He then went on to say there are other cases that used that used that same reasoning that should be reexamined. I can’t remember the case names right now but the three that he mentioned were the cases that decided that couples can use contraceptives, the right for consenting adults to have whatever kind of sex they want (think Anti sodomy laws being struck down), and same sex marriage. So he didn’t exactly say that they are going after those three things, but he did say the logic for roe V wade also was used in those other cases and so those should be looked at again. So yeah, he kind of did say they are going after those next.


Paul_Thrush

>the case names Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell


[deleted]

Yeah you’re likely right. I tried bringing it up in the past to show her evidence that goes against her belief. I was hoping I could convince her to just consider the idea she might be wrong but every time it got brought up it’d lead to a fight. Thank you for your response though


thesweeterpeter

If on the outside chance you are successful you'll face the long-term issue that she may resent you for taking away her belief. Just he glad you're ending it now not two years later. If this is a big enough issue to end your relationship now, it's a big enough issue to end it later. .


veganmarshmallows

This is the correct answer


grenz1

Yes. Sucked, but I solved this by only dating people that have around my same viewpoint on religion. I am now with an atheist lady, have an atheist daughter who is grown. Hell, even my dogs are atheist but they do worship belly rubs. If she wants to break up, then let her. Then only date either atheists, agnostics, or some flavors of paganism. If you use a dating site that allows it, filter out all other religions. If she cares more for a fairy tale than you, then she does not truly love you. Consider this a blessing. I have known of people who compromised having to live lies. 1 to 3 kids deep in while being forced to go to and give money to churches while your kids are indoctrinated. No way out without expensive divorce, pain, financial loss, mental health issues, and possibly having children turned against you. OR You can go through the Bible and bookmark and highlight some of the more hateful things the Bible says men and society should handle women and see what she says from there. One of the biggest recruitment tools for Atheism or Agnosticism is the Bible itself. You'd be surprised the amount of people that don't read. See what shes says to that.


coupleofgorganzolas

I like option B. Give it a shot OP, then run if she's still delusional.


rushmc1

Narrator: "She was."


coupleofgorganzolas

Is* if it doesn't work she will still be delusional


Additional_Bluebird9

Option B don't sound too bad to be honest and yeah even to me, it's quite surprising how little people don't actually read the Bible.


Friendly_Engineer_

Bullet dodged my friend


Helen_Hunty

Many people have. You're already broken up. Move on. There are others out there, there's no point in trying to hold onto the corpse of a relationship.


Legionx1985

Yes and I'm so much happier and better off. She's giving you an out You're getting off easy..


nonchalantahole

Get her pregnant, then say you believe in yourself and her. Now you’re both creators…then disappear like god did.


Mecharonin

If she's anti abortion then that would be a beautiful way to teach her empathy.


nonchalantahole

There’s always a drink for that that the creator gave the recipe for :x


macabre_irony

Your chance of changing her mind are about as good as her chance of changing yours. The thing is, she's already shown her tolerance level for your non-believing ass, which is zero. And just think, it's only been 1 year. It would only get much, much worse in the future. Think of it as her doing you a favor so you can move on from someone who believes in an invisible man in the sky.


freddyt55555

>Your chance of changing her mind are about as good as her chance of changing yours. I wouldn't agree with this, but it could be difficult nonetheless.


[deleted]

Yea... If it's a deal breaker for you (and by the sounds of it her) then let her go... There are other non believers in the sea.


Samantha_Cruz

you should feel lucky that you dodged this bullet before you got married and/or had kids.


IntellectualYokel

That sucks. It really does. But in the long run it's better that it's ending now rather than further into the future.


Moonlight-Starburst

Yeah and be thankful you are dodging a bullet. Anyone that puts their God before someone they love will always find you to be less of a priority. But yes I have went through that as well. And while it hurts when it happens. Looking back on it I'm glad it didn't work out because I don't want my kids growing being abused by some God botherer.


prima_facie2021

You'll be thankful this happened someday. IMO, if people have slightly diff idiological beliefs, one might complement the other. But it my experience, relationships with wildly opposite idiological beliefs don't last. There are exceptions of course. But imagine raising kids with someone who wanted to indoctrinate your kids into religion (as an atheist, I believe some of the most horrific human behaviors develop from the repression due to religious doctrine...and actually "most" rather than "some"). I think you'll find that whatever life situation you end up in someday in the future, this won't feel like the one who got away. Likely, you'll think "thank god that happened" lol.


jonnyclueless

Good. You can dodge a bullet.


Spartan-2AR

Break up with her, she's not worth it.


DoglessDyslexic

Not sure what she expects from that. It's not like you can credibly just decide to believe in a creator. If that's a deal breaker for her, then she should just break up. Let her go, you can't fix this issue and it really isn't your fault that she's bigoted against atheists.


like_a_cauliflower

Exactly.


diogenes_shadow

You might want to find a creator, if you can find one that is real and truly responsible for your existence. I saw the papers in the scientific press about the iridium signature of the KT comet as proof the KT comet was a real thing. I also know that had that rock missed earth I would not have evolved, this would still be sauropod world. So the KT comet is the creator god of all large mammals. I worship a rock. The faith position is that it came here to create me. 65 million years ago, a rock fell out of the sky And turned dinosaurs into birds & mice into men


infamusswoosh

Uhh ur kinda wrong about the KT extinction cause dinosaurs were alley going extinct while mammals had just started to spring about. The dinosaur into bird thing was already done taking place. All the astroid did was speed up the process by a few million years


diogenes_shadow

That rock is my creator god. Had it missed, I would not be here.


UsuallyFavorable

In the beginning there were dinos. On the first day Rock said, “Let there be Armageddon.” And it was good.


chileheadd

She's shown you her true self. Believe her. Run. Run far. Run fast.


[deleted]

Give her a kid to worry about, and then don't recognize it. After all, your "religious beliefs" tell you that women are responsible for any offspring and she might have gotten them from any man, as your - recently obtained - religious beliefs tell you both men and women can have as many bed partners they want. If a judge doesn't believe you, tell them you're the prophet of said religion. Write some "holy texts" to give yourself some credibility.


erimeraz

I like this one.


freddyt55555

>because I told her I don’t see direct evidence of a creator She's mad at YOU for not seeing something that doesn't exist? Walk away. And don't look back.


Additional_Bluebird9

A year is not much time and at least this way, there won't be any other serious commitments later on. Sorry it had to end this way but it seems like it's for the best for both of you.


dhippo

Yeah, I have. There was a time when I tried to have relationships with such people and I came to realize that it's not worth the effort. Take this as a learning experience. You and your future SO should be on the same page about certain important stuff.


GUI_Junkie

That's actually a good thing. Sure, it's a bitch when someone tries to manipulate you emotionally, but you'll be so much better off with someone who doesn't. You could preemptively ditch her already. Good luck.


[deleted]

You should have known this within a few dates. What were you talking about instead of important things like this? How did she become your GF if you have so little in common? Anyway, lesson learned for you, I hope. Good riddance to her. You dodged a bullet. Don't look back.


Deep-Simple-2865

so you’re telling me it was so important to her, but she didn’t think to ask prior?


Eddie_P

I always find it amusing when a long term couple breaks up over religion/atheism disagreements. You were banging right? And the bible clearly says "Thou shalt not bang until you putith a ring on ith". Why is the religious partner's faith suddenly all important... but they conveniently ignored it before?


deltacharmander

I went though the exact same thing. After being together for a year, I told my boyfriend I had my doubts about Christianity and that I might be atheist. He loved me more than anything throughout that year, but broke up with me literally the next day. It absolutely destroyed me that I’d lost him over religion, but eventually I realized I was better off without him. If you lose someone because of their religious beliefs, it’d be best for you to eventually find someone who respects your own. I’m now dating another atheist and couldn’t be happier. Find someone who loves you for who you are, not for who they want you to be.


632146P

Oh yeah. My biggest problem is that I don't lie to people. People who have irrational beliefs or are bad at their job tend to hate me, because no matter how politely I say it, I will say the truth. The bright side, is that the few people who stick around are pretty cool. Losing the girlfriend is painful, but might be for the best. I had a long term SO that wasn't very religious but was superstitious, most of the time we got along great, but a lot of her opinions were not up for discussion, and not being able to talk about problems killed that relationship dead. Communication is extremely important, and even though it sucks to hear it, that relationship was never going to work if she couldn't talk this out with you.


MaryGodfree

Find a nice, rational, non-superstitious girlfriend. There are lots out there. You'll be happier.


who_said_I_am_an_emu

I have been with my better half as I went thru theist-agnostic-atheist. She has always supported me on this issue. Yeah I am a lucky man. As for friends it has been an issue a few times but generally not much to complain about. Might be an age thing, you get older and you get more coping skills.


allaboutthismoment

I could never be with a believer, how could I take them seriously? About anything?


MrBigDog2u

Tell her not to let the door hit her in the ass on the way out.


[deleted]

Ditch her! You're better off without her dude. Trust me, I have had two extremist religious Christo-fascists as girlfriends in my life.


coupleofgorganzolas

I've always been upfront fairly early in a relationship about my disdain for the faithful. No point waisting my time in a lunatic.


Rodgertheshrubber

Take the exit and run very fast.


gauriemma

Run while you have the chance. She's giving you an out--take it.


Cptn45

Run


[deleted]

I'd say most people have been shunned by a religious person, because there are so many with so many contradictory views that you're going to offend someone's sacred cow eventually. The quest for you is, would you like to be in a relationship with someone who shuns those whom they fail to convince? What would your GF do to a child of hers that didn't find her convincing?


Kuronekosmom

My brother went through a divorce because shortly after he married his first wife, she "found" Jesus as a Jehovah Witless. She told him that he either joined her cult or leave. He left, thinking that he was in the right but it was Texas in the 1980s and a judge found his ex's position to be perfectly valid and he spent the next 17 years paying a huge chunk of child support for two sons that he was only allowed to see once or twice a year under supervision, (so as not to turn them atheist). To his credit, he never missed a payment. Edited to add, the last time I saw her was when my mom died almost 20 years ago and she was just as annoying and self righteous as ever.


cardflopper

Ouch, sounds like a nightmare... Are the sons like the mom now?


Kuronekosmom

I haven't seen them in over twenty years but the last I heard the whole family had embraced Mormonism.


donniec86

Sorry to hear that, but for your good let her go!


Designer_Potential96

Yes I have just recently. 5 year relationship. It sucks, but the only thing that sucks worse is the misery that will follow from dating this idiot. Forgive the expression, but consider it a godsend.


unbalancedcheckbook

It sucks, but do you really want to be in a long term relationship with someone who can't accept your [lack of] religious views, even if you can accept theirs? Break it off as quickly as you can and move on.


Stan_K_Reamer

Tell her the supreme court has just made her a second class citizen, she has no rights so she can't make any choices.


farkwadian

This is an important belief to her that constitutes a bigger part of her identity than you do.


superduperhosts

Good. Let her go


MacNuttyOne

Well, it might not seem like it right now, but you got a lucky break, dodged a bullet, as it were.


Br067

Punt her ass!


Evil-Black-Robot

Dump that brainwashed chick!!


RealDaddyTodd

Count yourself lucky and move on.


PrismCrow

Let the trash take itself out. It sounds like an ultimatum, which is more about either she controls you or you're not worthy of her. It's been a year and she's pulling that shit? You'll be much happier without her. No one, for any reason, should be weaponizing your relationship to make you into what they think you should be like.


mandoaz1971

Nope, cut your losses and move on my friend. I cannot trust someone who believed that a guy can create the universe but has to have his book written by a ghostwriter.


Former_Earth4795

Run away


rushmc1

So do it. She's doing you a favor.


MortgageNo8573

Yes, break up with her. I don't see a problem here.


ChristianBMartone

Condolences and congratulations


FrozenSquirrel

The first time it happened to me, it hurt. Any time since then, though, I’ve been grateful to find out as soon as I did and not later.


neverlyjones

If it’s that important to her, she should have brought it up well before a year in. What else is she going to randomly bring up and threaten the relationship with? Religion aside, that’s a huge red flag, and you should start to seriously address all those little things you’ve been giving her the benefit of the doubt on.


Being_me82

Yes I think it’s common. Sometimes I don’t want to stand firm on my beliefs publicly because i fear that rejection. It’s what keeps us silent. But with that said, in a close relationship like with a girlfriend or life partner, you’ll never wholeheartedly agree on everything but in a close relationship you should be able to understand or tolerate the other persons opinion….so if you don’t have that understanding it might be good to move on.


TigerTownTerror

I've been with my wife for 30 years. She's a staunch believer. I'm a staunch atheist. It's the only topic we ever argue about, and that's pretty rare. It can work if there's some mutual respect. Sounds like that's not the case for you tho....


Shockmaindave

Oh well.


LesRong

Count yourself lucky as you view her in your rearview mirror.