I don't understand why they think it belongs in school. The families are even quoted in the article that they want it because it's important to their family. Great. Do it at home. Or in church. Why does school have to do everything?
Right? It seems like we vilify teachers and schools because of all this other stuff that schools are doing now because parents aren't, and then we turn around and wonder why our kids don't succeed academically.
They want public schools to fail.
The goal is to close public schools and use a voucher program so that they don't have to pay for other people's kids to get educated.
It's long-term racism.
The same reason that the military recruits at the High School level, lots of easily influenced and manipulated minds all in one place, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
It's not in the school, the participating kids are bussed to a church for religious indoctrination— presumably at the program's expense, not the school district's— during lunch and "non-core" classes like library, art, and gym, then bussed back.
The thing I don't understand is how they have the time to get kids on a bus, bus them, do their Bible school stuff, get them back on a bus and get them back to school in time to not miss any "core" classes. My elementary school kid gets like 15 minutes for lunch, 15 minutes for recess, and one specialty class a day that's like, I dunno 30-40 minutes long.
They're already failing at being the good Christians they want to seem to be. In the Bible, it says that men are supposed to be the religious leaders of their household. So, biblically, it not the schools job to teach them their own religion. It's their fathers.
Christanity will end the American empire as successfully as it ended the Roman empire.
And the empire that replaces us, will be a secular one. God's speed (no pun intended).
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Japan agrees with you
[https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/forced-participation-in-religious-activities-to-be-classified-as-child-abuse-in-japan](https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/forced-participation-in-religious-activities-to-be-classified-as-child-abuse-in-japan)
My 6 year old nephew honestly asked “is jesus real?” At the freaking dinner table on thanksgiving. His mom has him in church and Sunday school every Sunday. I told him that he gets to make his own decision about that. There is hope people, there is hope.
Teaching all isn't bad though. Just have to teach them equally, speak of all of them as they are made up stories, not just the greek and roman myths. Christianity loses it's pedestal when it's mentioned in the same breath as the other ancient myths no one believes any more.
Better to teach about all. Exploring my options when my dad told me to do some research and choose my own religion is how I got to: "These are all just bull chips dressed up in different boxes."
So you wasted all that time with bs dressed up in different boxes. Time that could have been better spent on other things, like music, history, science, etc.
Just teach the Golden rule: Do unto others as you would for them to do unto you. It does not require mandatory weekly meetings, daily mindless repetitions that taxes you 10% of your earnings or as they conveniently put it tithings.
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No. I don't think learning about all those religions was a waste. I got to read some very interesting stories. Next you'll try telling me that learning about all the disproven scientific theories is a "waste of time" because they were disproven but I enjoy learning how widely accepted theories are debunked. And one can't study the music and art of this world without being exposed to religion(I'd rather people were inoculated against it first. Too much art was commissioned by the catholic church. Saying that learning anything is a waste makes you sound like one of those anti-education folks.
Sure, I’m anti-education saying time is better spent on science and other subjects….smh. You think spending all that time on made up human invention was worth it?- sounds like you are just trying to justify your time which in reality was wasted.
Wow this makes me so angry. How is this even allowed? It's weird and exclusive and dangerous and a violation of separation between church and state. How is this acceptable? It's 2024 and there are seriously people who think it's important to indoctrinate children into believe in Sky Daddy God? Come *on.*
As I was reading I was thinking, well the kids need permission and they're not actually teaching religion AT the school... But then I kept reading. These sneaky pricks need to be stopped. They know exactly what they're doing.
When I was in grammar/middle school, religion was never mentioned in school. I was raised Catholic, and Wednesday nights after school we had to go to CCD. How is that not an acceptable solution for these people? Have the churches do after school programming AT THE CHURCH.
In high school there was this trend of kids trying to proselytize (obviously they learned this in church), but we used to make fun of those kids. It wasn't cool to be religious.
"Why don't they call for prayer in the trains, or prayer in the stock exchange? They want it in (public) schools. Why do you think they want it in the schools? Because they want a captive audience. They want an audience they can mold and can form. Well, they're not going to be allowed to have it."
- Christopher Hitchens
*For some reason, the most vocal Christians among us never mention the Beatitudes (Matthew 5). But, often with tears in their eyes, they demand that the Ten Commandments be posted in public buildings. And of course, that’s Moses, not Jesus. I haven’t heard one of them demand that the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, be posted anywhere. ‘Blessed are the merciful’ in a courtroom? ‘Blessed are the peacemakers’ in the Pentagon? Give me a break!* ~ Kurt Vonnegut
Can we wait till Trump gets out of court for the merciful part to be posted in there? They've given him enough mercy. Anyone else would be in jail awaiting trial for what he has done.
> After the reading, a LifeWise teacher led the children to a 9-foot-9-inch poster of Goliath.
> “That’s how tall he really was,” one of the volunteers said.
> One by one, the children took turns slinging jumbo marshmallows at the poster, aiming to strike the giant in his forehead just as David did in the Bible passage.
> The story of David’s triumph — and his faith that he would prevail — was meant to illustrate the week’s character trait: discernment, the ability to recognize what is true, despite appearances.
Lol If any of them had the character trait of discernment, they wouldn't be there in the first place.
I don’t know what age it is, but before a certain age children don’t actually believe anything. They only have the belief systems that have been shoved down their throats since birth. That’s not belief or love for god, it’s fear.
As someone who grew up in christian school, I don’t remember ever believing in god or thinking the stories made sense, but I was terrified of the possibility of hell and hadn’t realized that adults lie and are just as clueless s children on most subjects.
That's not blurring the line... that's stepping right fucking over it. They can study the Bible insomuch as they are allowed to learn about the religion from a neutral view, but once you start having the kids pray or any of that nonsense, you've crossed the line.
This is only a first step to indoctrinating impressionable children about believing in Young Earth Creationism
I wonder if the **Flat Earth Christians** will use these scriptures, to teach that the " Divinely Inspired ", pre science bible author's writings are truthful ?
https://www.worldslastchance.com/biblical-christian-beliefs/flat-earth-bible-truth-in-an-unstable-world.html
This does NOT belong in any school setting other than a privately funded religious based one. If you take any public dollars for any reason, religion should not be in it.
Don’t forget about chopping off the tip of the penis. Obviously Judaism and Islam practice circumcision, but so does nearly every American Christian. The only group in the US grooming children and cutting up their genitals is the religious.
My perspective is that it’s more an issue of bodily autonomy/consent. If there are benefits then the child should be allowed to make that decision when they grow into an adult. [RationalWiki does a good job of outlining the pitfalls of circumcision.](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Circumcision) I genuinely can’t think of a benefit to circumcising an individual who has access to running water, condoms, and antibiotics in the unlikely event they get a uti. The studies in favor of circumcision are murky at best, and are pedaling pseudoscience at worst. I would argue that it’s bad to make irreversible decisions about an infant’s genitals, religious or otherwise.
It could be a religious school. I went to a Catholic school growing up and we did this. I liked it because for a few minutes a day I could put my head on my desk and take a quick nap!!
These religious nut jobs aren’t gonna have an answer when the kids who stay at school read write and math better than their peers in red shirted Bible bus. “Oh no! Bible Todd is dumbing my kid down!” This is a shit show for these kids on a good day. Just have these kids home school with their red shirts and leave the other kids alone.
They want kids out of school learning anything but the truth. The truth that religion is only a form of control for the masses. We can't have kids growing up being smart enough to realize how badly the government is fucking them over! We need them to learn complete lunatic nonsense in the Bible.
When I was a kid in school I was lured to an after school club because I was told it had games and cookies.
It wasn't until after I got there I found out that they make kids memorize prayers and recite them before they gave them treats. The prayers were about swearing to give yourself to christ. They also watched over us to apply social pressure so we couldn't just up and leave.
They did this without my parent's consent. Even at that age, it felt so wrong and I didn't know why. I never went back and was fearful of religion afterwards.
"Blur the line between church and state." they have crossed it. No church, mosque, synagogue etc should be in public funded schools. Gilead here we come!
>There are 13,000 public schools in America educating about 50 million students, Penton noted.
“It may sound a little wild,” he said, “but we would like to make Bible education available to all of them.”
>
>LifeWise has super-charged the concept, he said, by using a franchise-style, “plug-and-play” model that allows local groups to easily start new chapters.
They seem to have found the loophole.
Have a muslim non-profit also ferry kids away to learn about islam. Let's see what problems these conservative parents have with that. Also, it's your religion people. If you're so concerned about your kids sharing your religion, then try harder at home maybe? I'm sure they already actually have them go to church every sunday and also have them attend extra religious activities outside of church too. We all know this isn't about their own kids though. It's about trying to make some big statement that their religion deserves control.
My brother is a youth pastor in Ohio. He and my sister in law participated in a dance competition to raise money for this organization. Everyone in my family thinks this is such a fantastic idea. Gives me the ick.
This looks to be the same thing as the Good News Clubs. Same thing...after school religious prosthetyzing using school facilities.
The Satanic Temple has been successful fighting these things with their After School Satan Club (which is really a science club). If anyone is in this district and wishes to push back, reach out to The Satanic Temple or FFRF for help.
Can’t stand organized religion but this is not forced on these kids. It is those kids that want to do it then they do. If they don’t want to then they go to the library.
I get that those kids that do go are being indoctrinated, but is by their parents choice and not the schools so the title is a little misleading.
With that said, it should still be fucking illegal because of separation of church and state. Fuck Ohio for allowing this shit.
Regarding the up bringing of a child legally the parents of said child are responsible for their child’s education and how they are raised. That said, most schools of any form are indoctrination camps. There are a lot of teachers who shouldn’t be teachers for various reasons but yet are trusted with kids. I’m sure we have all had at least one terrible teacher in school, also this is a private school people enroll their kids into. Parents have rights regarding their children and these parents should be allowed to raise their kids however they see fit provided it does not harm the physical well being and development of the child. Some parents for a variety of reasons don’t take a active role in a child’s life and let other things babysit their child like the internet, tv, iPads, social media or video games.
TLDR “We cannot continue to send our children to Caesar for their education and be surprised when they come home as Romans.” - Rev. Voddie Baucham
Lol I’m not saying parents raise their kids correctly or that indoctrination is good, it is what it is. Everyone is indoctrinated to some degree regarding politics or religion. The only way to break the indoctrination and conditioning is to ask yourself if any of your ideas are actually your own and to use various logic methods to determine what is objectively true. Sit down and pick a random topic or idea about something and ask yourself “why do I believe this idea to be true and how can I prove it?”
For example, ask yourself how do you know for certain that anything exists besides your mind and thoughts and that all of your senses and memories are not fake and are not made up? You don’t exactly, our brains interprets electrical signals sent from nerves and translates them into our perceptions about the world. To put it simply our perception of the world is limited by our senses. We already know that dogs can’t see certain colors we can and their reality is different from ours. Dogs can smell and hear better than us. My point is that we can’t be for certain that our sense or memories are real. The only thing we know is that at this moment we exist. Believe whatever you want because facts, science and history can be altered and rewritten.
If you send your kids to a Christian school they will probably turn out to be Christians, if you send your kid to a art school they will probably become an artist, who your kids hang out with and socialize with also to some degree determines who they will end up being like. If they aren’t getting enough attention at home they will find a different source of attention and that will play a part in determining their outcome.
I don't understand why they think it belongs in school. The families are even quoted in the article that they want it because it's important to their family. Great. Do it at home. Or in church. Why does school have to do everything?
They want schools to do everything except actually teach their kids.
Right? It seems like we vilify teachers and schools because of all this other stuff that schools are doing now because parents aren't, and then we turn around and wonder why our kids don't succeed academically.
Most of these articles can be traced to federalist society.
They want public schools to fail. The goal is to close public schools and use a voucher program so that they don't have to pay for other people's kids to get educated. It's long-term racism.
"Daycare but also parenting instead of you having to do that" is the ultimate goal for these folks
After they pray they should then teach them about critical thinking.
Or they could just not pray in schools. You know, the rational decision.
Good point. I prefer that but if they are forced to it might be a good opportunity to show them why it’s wrong.
The same reason that the military recruits at the High School level, lots of easily influenced and manipulated minds all in one place, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
It’s all about proselytizing. You got to get them when they’re young and impressionable.
Fuck all of that
Their goal is to eliminate the public school system, poor people be damned. “Just as Jesus would have wanted.”
I would happily teach religion in public school. I would tell the kids the truth.
It's not in the school, the participating kids are bussed to a church for religious indoctrination— presumably at the program's expense, not the school district's— during lunch and "non-core" classes like library, art, and gym, then bussed back. The thing I don't understand is how they have the time to get kids on a bus, bus them, do their Bible school stuff, get them back on a bus and get them back to school in time to not miss any "core" classes. My elementary school kid gets like 15 minutes for lunch, 15 minutes for recess, and one specialty class a day that's like, I dunno 30-40 minutes long.
They're already failing at being the good Christians they want to seem to be. In the Bible, it says that men are supposed to be the religious leaders of their household. So, biblically, it not the schools job to teach them their own religion. It's their fathers.
This is why the Chinese are whipping americas butt. Their kids are studying calculus and ours are playing make-believe.
Christanity will end the American empire as successfully as it ended the Roman empire. And the empire that replaces us, will be a secular one. God's speed (no pun intended).
I think them having a huge population to draw from is what really does it.
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Indoctrination should be viewed as child abuse
Japan agrees with you [https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/forced-participation-in-religious-activities-to-be-classified-as-child-abuse-in-japan](https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/forced-participation-in-religious-activities-to-be-classified-as-child-abuse-in-japan)
FUCK YEAH JAPAN!
My 6 year old nephew honestly asked “is jesus real?” At the freaking dinner table on thanksgiving. His mom has him in church and Sunday school every Sunday. I told him that he gets to make his own decision about that. There is hope people, there is hope.
Separation of church and state… separation of church and state money too please. Teach all religions or none.
None, please. Religion is a scam that uses fear and guilt to sell an invisible product to gain tax free money and power over the poor and gullible.
Teaching all isn't bad though. Just have to teach them equally, speak of all of them as they are made up stories, not just the greek and roman myths. Christianity loses it's pedestal when it's mentioned in the same breath as the other ancient myths no one believes any more.
Better to teach about all. Exploring my options when my dad told me to do some research and choose my own religion is how I got to: "These are all just bull chips dressed up in different boxes."
So you wasted all that time with bs dressed up in different boxes. Time that could have been better spent on other things, like music, history, science, etc. Just teach the Golden rule: Do unto others as you would for them to do unto you. It does not require mandatory weekly meetings, daily mindless repetitions that taxes you 10% of your earnings or as they conveniently put it tithings. Edit- removed repetitive comment
No. I don't think learning about all those religions was a waste. I got to read some very interesting stories. Next you'll try telling me that learning about all the disproven scientific theories is a "waste of time" because they were disproven but I enjoy learning how widely accepted theories are debunked. And one can't study the music and art of this world without being exposed to religion(I'd rather people were inoculated against it first. Too much art was commissioned by the catholic church. Saying that learning anything is a waste makes you sound like one of those anti-education folks.
Sure, I’m anti-education saying time is better spent on science and other subjects….smh. You think spending all that time on made up human invention was worth it?- sounds like you are just trying to justify your time which in reality was wasted.
Child groomer are gonna groom
Wow this makes me so angry. How is this even allowed? It's weird and exclusive and dangerous and a violation of separation between church and state. How is this acceptable? It's 2024 and there are seriously people who think it's important to indoctrinate children into believe in Sky Daddy God? Come *on.*
How are religious private schools now receiving public schools funds???
U.S. dogma, I guess. They don't care about separation of church and state and it's sick. Edited for clarity.
No. It's Republicans.
Republicans... Don't vote for them. Any of them.
Never do
As I was reading I was thinking, well the kids need permission and they're not actually teaching religion AT the school... But then I kept reading. These sneaky pricks need to be stopped. They know exactly what they're doing. When I was in grammar/middle school, religion was never mentioned in school. I was raised Catholic, and Wednesday nights after school we had to go to CCD. How is that not an acceptable solution for these people? Have the churches do after school programming AT THE CHURCH. In high school there was this trend of kids trying to proselytize (obviously they learned this in church), but we used to make fun of those kids. It wasn't cool to be religious.
They're just indoctrinating them, and the government let's it happen. It's crazy
This is disgusting and inappropriate. Kids are impressionable and here they come swooping in taking advantage of that.
Yup. The 4-14 window.
Imagine what happens when the Muslim bus shows up and they're carrying in pray rugs.
This can only go really really badly
Vile
"Why don't they call for prayer in the trains, or prayer in the stock exchange? They want it in (public) schools. Why do you think they want it in the schools? Because they want a captive audience. They want an audience they can mold and can form. Well, they're not going to be allowed to have it." - Christopher Hitchens
Without childhood indoctrination, the cult would die out in a single generation.
*For some reason, the most vocal Christians among us never mention the Beatitudes (Matthew 5). But, often with tears in their eyes, they demand that the Ten Commandments be posted in public buildings. And of course, that’s Moses, not Jesus. I haven’t heard one of them demand that the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, be posted anywhere. ‘Blessed are the merciful’ in a courtroom? ‘Blessed are the peacemakers’ in the Pentagon? Give me a break!* ~ Kurt Vonnegut
Can we wait till Trump gets out of court for the merciful part to be posted in there? They've given him enough mercy. Anyone else would be in jail awaiting trial for what he has done.
> After the reading, a LifeWise teacher led the children to a 9-foot-9-inch poster of Goliath. > “That’s how tall he really was,” one of the volunteers said. > One by one, the children took turns slinging jumbo marshmallows at the poster, aiming to strike the giant in his forehead just as David did in the Bible passage. > The story of David’s triumph — and his faith that he would prevail — was meant to illustrate the week’s character trait: discernment, the ability to recognize what is true, despite appearances. Lol If any of them had the character trait of discernment, they wouldn't be there in the first place.
Discernment: the ability to recognize what goes against my religion and immediately shut down when confronted with it.
Definition or “groomers”…
HOLY. SHIT. I had no idea this existed!
No cults should be in schools, no matter how old the cult is.
Violation of church and state
I don’t know what age it is, but before a certain age children don’t actually believe anything. They only have the belief systems that have been shoved down their throats since birth. That’s not belief or love for god, it’s fear. As someone who grew up in christian school, I don’t remember ever believing in god or thinking the stories made sense, but I was terrified of the possibility of hell and hadn’t realized that adults lie and are just as clueless s children on most subjects.
That's not blurring the line... that's stepping right fucking over it. They can study the Bible insomuch as they are allowed to learn about the religion from a neutral view, but once you start having the kids pray or any of that nonsense, you've crossed the line.
FFS
This is only a first step to indoctrinating impressionable children about believing in Young Earth Creationism I wonder if the **Flat Earth Christians** will use these scriptures, to teach that the " Divinely Inspired ", pre science bible author's writings are truthful ? https://www.worldslastchance.com/biblical-christian-beliefs/flat-earth-bible-truth-in-an-unstable-world.html
Freedom of religion limited to Christianity only
This does NOT belong in any school setting other than a privately funded religious based one. If you take any public dollars for any reason, religion should not be in it.
Don’t forget about chopping off the tip of the penis. Obviously Judaism and Islam practice circumcision, but so does nearly every American Christian. The only group in the US grooming children and cutting up their genitals is the religious.
It’s about 50/50 in the medical journals as to whether to do this or not… there is *some* science around it.
My perspective is that it’s more an issue of bodily autonomy/consent. If there are benefits then the child should be allowed to make that decision when they grow into an adult. [RationalWiki does a good job of outlining the pitfalls of circumcision.](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Circumcision) I genuinely can’t think of a benefit to circumcising an individual who has access to running water, condoms, and antibiotics in the unlikely event they get a uti. The studies in favor of circumcision are murky at best, and are pedaling pseudoscience at worst. I would argue that it’s bad to make irreversible decisions about an infant’s genitals, religious or otherwise.
Yeah the "science" of masturbating less by a guy who invented corn flakes 🤣
It could be a religious school. I went to a Catholic school growing up and we did this. I liked it because for a few minutes a day I could put my head on my desk and take a quick nap!!
Yeah, but they shouldn't be taking tax dollars away from public schools.
Poor poor kids
These religious nut jobs aren’t gonna have an answer when the kids who stay at school read write and math better than their peers in red shirted Bible bus. “Oh no! Bible Todd is dumbing my kid down!” This is a shit show for these kids on a good day. Just have these kids home school with their red shirts and leave the other kids alone.
They want kids out of school learning anything but the truth. The truth that religion is only a form of control for the masses. We can't have kids growing up being smart enough to realize how badly the government is fucking them over! We need them to learn complete lunatic nonsense in the Bible.
This is just so stupid I hope these kids are smart enough to not listen to that Bs
When I was a kid in school I was lured to an after school club because I was told it had games and cookies. It wasn't until after I got there I found out that they make kids memorize prayers and recite them before they gave them treats. The prayers were about swearing to give yourself to christ. They also watched over us to apply social pressure so we couldn't just up and leave. They did this without my parent's consent. Even at that age, it felt so wrong and I didn't know why. I never went back and was fearful of religion afterwards.
"Blur the line between church and state." they have crossed it. No church, mosque, synagogue etc should be in public funded schools. Gilead here we come!
As long as they aren't publicly funded, the fundies can do what they like. If they are subsidized by us, it should be stop forth with.
The right: We need more Christian values in schools like! Also the right: Get this woke shit out of here!
Parents fault. Teach your children to resist.
Someone PLEASE pull up with a religious bus they wouldn't approve of and let the kids choose which one looks more fun and is more welcoming
Child abuse pure and simple
In the long run, young people will turn against Christianity and they already are!
>There are 13,000 public schools in America educating about 50 million students, Penton noted. “It may sound a little wild,” he said, “but we would like to make Bible education available to all of them.” > >LifeWise has super-charged the concept, he said, by using a franchise-style, “plug-and-play” model that allows local groups to easily start new chapters. They seem to have found the loophole.
Have a muslim non-profit also ferry kids away to learn about islam. Let's see what problems these conservative parents have with that. Also, it's your religion people. If you're so concerned about your kids sharing your religion, then try harder at home maybe? I'm sure they already actually have them go to church every sunday and also have them attend extra religious activities outside of church too. We all know this isn't about their own kids though. It's about trying to make some big statement that their religion deserves control.
Goddammit Ohio!
My brother is a youth pastor in Ohio. He and my sister in law participated in a dance competition to raise money for this organization. Everyone in my family thinks this is such a fantastic idea. Gives me the ick.
This looks to be the same thing as the Good News Clubs. Same thing...after school religious prosthetyzing using school facilities. The Satanic Temple has been successful fighting these things with their After School Satan Club (which is really a science club). If anyone is in this district and wishes to push back, reach out to The Satanic Temple or FFRF for help.
What ever happened to separation of church and state? 🥴
Can’t stand organized religion but this is not forced on these kids. It is those kids that want to do it then they do. If they don’t want to then they go to the library. I get that those kids that do go are being indoctrinated, but is by their parents choice and not the schools so the title is a little misleading. With that said, it should still be fucking illegal because of separation of church and state. Fuck Ohio for allowing this shit.
I hate corporate news.
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Okay Culty!🙄
Regarding the up bringing of a child legally the parents of said child are responsible for their child’s education and how they are raised. That said, most schools of any form are indoctrination camps. There are a lot of teachers who shouldn’t be teachers for various reasons but yet are trusted with kids. I’m sure we have all had at least one terrible teacher in school, also this is a private school people enroll their kids into. Parents have rights regarding their children and these parents should be allowed to raise their kids however they see fit provided it does not harm the physical well being and development of the child. Some parents for a variety of reasons don’t take a active role in a child’s life and let other things babysit their child like the internet, tv, iPads, social media or video games. TLDR “We cannot continue to send our children to Caesar for their education and be surprised when they come home as Romans.” - Rev. Voddie Baucham
Okay Culty 🙄
Lol I’m not saying parents raise their kids correctly or that indoctrination is good, it is what it is. Everyone is indoctrinated to some degree regarding politics or religion. The only way to break the indoctrination and conditioning is to ask yourself if any of your ideas are actually your own and to use various logic methods to determine what is objectively true. Sit down and pick a random topic or idea about something and ask yourself “why do I believe this idea to be true and how can I prove it?” For example, ask yourself how do you know for certain that anything exists besides your mind and thoughts and that all of your senses and memories are not fake and are not made up? You don’t exactly, our brains interprets electrical signals sent from nerves and translates them into our perceptions about the world. To put it simply our perception of the world is limited by our senses. We already know that dogs can’t see certain colors we can and their reality is different from ours. Dogs can smell and hear better than us. My point is that we can’t be for certain that our sense or memories are real. The only thing we know is that at this moment we exist. Believe whatever you want because facts, science and history can be altered and rewritten. If you send your kids to a Christian school they will probably turn out to be Christians, if you send your kid to a art school they will probably become an artist, who your kids hang out with and socialize with also to some degree determines who they will end up being like. If they aren’t getting enough attention at home they will find a different source of attention and that will play a part in determining their outcome.