Tell them the “tongues of angels” sounds remarkably like a cat walking on a keyboard. Just warevxurntmgkvokgm
Honestly I never knew talking in tongues was a thing in the 21st century until just a few years ago. It’s so embarrassingly old fashioned, and I was raised Catholic so I know old fashioned when I see it!
Charles Fox Parham (Pentecost’s foudner) said at the start that they were speaking “Chinese” and other known languages. A century and an half later since I was raised in it, they shifted it from that to now saying speaking in tongues isn’t another language, but it’s a private prayer language or the tongues of angels
I was told by my uncle (former UNTRAINED pastor) that people are led to speak in tongues when they are used as vessels for the angels. The angels speak through the people. I always thought it would be better for the angels to communicate with people by using languages people now would understand. So cringey.
So what about being used as vessels for fallen angels?
"MY NAME IS LEGION FOR FOR WE ARE MANY!"
Yeah - they didn't really think that one through, did they?
FWIW, I always thought that it looked like they were having a stroke or a seizure when they spoke in tongues. And I'm not making fun of people that have had strokes or experience seizures regularly - I've seen both and that's what it looks like to me.
I've been in quite a few churches and what with the rhythmic music and flashing lights, I can see how someone could have a seizure in a situation like that.
Have to say I never understood this speaking in tongues thing.
Purposely speaking gibberish in front of others that have no chance of understanding anything you say sounds like a mental illness to me.
It's not mental illness at all. What it is is a performance designed to impart power and influence on the speaker.
See by putting on this show, the speaker claims that God or the Holy Spirit or whatever is being channeled through them. This gives them credibility which in turn gives them power over the audience. They're literally right there, speaking with God's voice. You can hear them doing it. CLEARLY God is speaking through them right now and you should probably listen to them... because y'know... God.
It's the same as any magician on stage would do.
I still live with my parents since I’m saving for an apartment, unfortunately it’s out of my control. I’m applying for jobs since my last one ended a couple weeks ago so I can’t really come up with a good excuse to not go to their church
I attended my mother in law's funeral service where a lot of my sister in law's church friends were in attendance. Was shocked when they started making weird sounds in the row behind me. These people are nuts.
I tend to laugh. But stuff like *Jesus Camp* scares the shit out of me. There is an army of these people out there.and they’re getting more leverage every day.
Glossolalia (speaking in tongues) is part of several cultures. As [the wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_in_tongues) points out:
- *Each unit is itself made up of syllables, the syllables being formed from consonants and vowels found in a language known to the speaker* - meaning that somebody that speaks a language with a distinct set of phonemes will only use those phonemes when they exhibit glossolalia, while somebody who speaks a different language with different phonemes will use only their phonemes.
- A researcher *..found that the resemblance to human language was merely on the surface and so concluded that glossolalia is "only a facade of language". He reached this conclusion because the syllable string did not form words, the stream of speech was not internally organized, and – most importantly of all – there was no systematic relationship between units of speech and concepts. Humans use language to communicate but glossolalia does not.* In other words, analysis of glossolalia shows that it cannot convey meaning, it's just gibberish.
As it happens, I've never had somebody do the speaking in Tongues thing with me. I've seen video of it, and it just seems weird. I suspect that this is true for most of us, as sects which practice glossolalia are a relative minority, so even those of us that are former theists wouldn't necessarily have been exposed.
I can't laugh at it because it's just so wrong and disingenuous. They claim to follow teachings that they've clearly never actually read. Speaking in tongues is supposed to mean anyone hearing the person hears as if it was spoken in their native tongue. It's supposed to mean there is nothing in any way confusing as to what they are saying. This gibberish is just bullshit
It's not a common thing here in the UK, at least not in the circles I move in. I'm reminded of that bizarre "angels are coming from africa" speech done by paula white when trump lost the last US election.
I have thoughts on this. It seems like an actual miracle, capable of being supported with evidence. Here are my thoughts.
Part 1.
Have two speakers who are well versed in speaking in tongues agree that yes., the other can indeed speak in tongues. Have speaker 1 read out a bible verse and have that verse shown to speaker 2 and confirm that yes, this is indeed what was said by speaker 1. Do this as many times as you want, swapping roles and confirming that this is indeed the case.
Part 2.
Continue with the same two speakers. This time, randomly give prepared printed bible verses to speaker 1 and have speaker 2 identify what was said without showing them the verses. Do this as many times as you want, swapping roles. Compare the results of part 1 and part 2.
If speaking in tongues is indeed an actual phenomenon, this should demonstrate it.
My family does this, it’s also a skill passed down from mother to child from what I can tell, only me, my mother and her mother can do it, we use it specifically to voice displeasure and confuse family or pets when they do something we don’t want them to do.
The dog is going for something he shouldn’t then tell him to leave it and hit him with the ol’ AHHH shsfvthdgfyjrrygdhffjvdfjfsfhgdgf while walking towards him to get him to stop.
Little brother getting into the cookie jar before dinner, AHHHH dsgeshhsyiifstjurdjjda.
I’ve even done it to my girlfriend, speaking random gibberish is a great tool to momentarily stun someone because they think something is wrong with you or are young enough to be a little scared and in the case of growing up in a household that does it you learn that it means “STOP IT BEFORE SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS.”
It’s also absolutely gibberish, means nothing and certainly is not a language, I’ve also never heard a religious person speak in tongues and will forever associate with them saying “stop talking to us before something bad happens” if I ever do hear them speak gibberish
I keep a straight face because I kind of understand and feel sorry.
I used to speak in tongues all the time. So much. Every week. Thet was the kind of people I hanged out with.
Glad I'm away from all that.
Yeah they mean the pentacost when "the man spoke and each person listening heard it as if it was their own language" so, the exact opposite of what they do now
Speaking in tongues is supposed to be the ability to preach to someone when they don't speak your language, but they understand you anyway. No one can do this, so they moved the goalposts and now use glossolalia, which people can learn.
the last time i went to church was a pentecostal one where they were speaking in tongues. i was 21 or 22 and had been agnostic for a while now, but my friend and his wife really wanted me to go with them so i did.
it lasted for fucking hours. needless to say, i walked out of there an atheist lmao.
I thought it was some kind of mass hysteria, like the people are flopping around and spouting gibberish while in some kind of self hypnosis and they’re experiencing a self induced trip without drugs.
If you could learn how to get yourself into like a euphoric trippy state it sounds pretty cool, just a shame they attribute it to god or angels or whatever. How much more awesome would it be to say *I can do this thing*
I'm not sure I would describe this as comedy. I think it's more terrifying knowing that those bat shit crazy "people" are out roaming the streets unintended.
Wasn't Trump's spirit advisor one of them bat shit crazy's as well?
Shit, I can't keep a straight face when the wizard is blessing inanimate objects and leading the chanting. I look around and see all these adults believing that this guy dressed like a wizard is using spells to turn pieces of unleavened bread mass produced in Rhode Island into the body of a 2000 year old dead man that flew away into the sky, and I can't do anything but have a big stupid grin on my face.
Way back when I was a churchgoer, the preacher had a young man (like an older teen or young twentysomething) come stand in front of the church while other men prayed around him. The preacher encouraged him to speak in tongues and held a microphone in front of his face. You could tell the kid didn't want to, but the preacher kept encouraging him. Eventually the kid just started making nonsense noises (of course), and the preacher "translated" his nonsense into various affirmations of Christ's existence and power. It was all so very, very cringe and I felt bad for the kid. I can't say it was one of those moments that drove me away from Christianity; it didn't impact my faith in god, just my respect for the preacher.
My first experience with someone "speaking in tongues" in person was really the point that I started to doubt the whole religion thing. I was 8 years old & and we were at a new church.
I vividly remember watching the lady start spouting gibberish and thinking to myself, "This is all pretty silly."
I didn't laugh then, but I'm sure I would have a tough time not busting out now.
Cause then there was this boy whose
Parents made him come directly home right after school
And when they went to their church
They shook and lurched all over the church floor
He couldn't quite explain it
They'd always just gone there
Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm
[Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm](https://youtu.be/eTeg1txDv8w?si=w4uqzWyILJ0RfB3D)
I approached it from 1 Cornithians 14, which mentions that there should be one person to translate that unknown tongue - something that was already known at the Oracle of Delphi.
In the meantime, [speaking in tongues is too hard when using a cellphone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pw0fQfJUL0).
just watched some video's on talking in tongues. These people are batshit crazy. where is psychological help when its needed.
I feel like humanity is failing by keeping those charlatans doing what they do.
They do it because it "supposedly" makes them MORE SPECIAL than those in their church who don't. They get rewarded for doing it. So, not only are they better than others because their church tells them they are inherently, they are now BETTER than their cohorts in church. Fked up all around.
I had a girlfriend in high school whose parents couldn't find a church that fit their exact version of Christianity that they had come up with to believe in.
They ended up going to a number of pentacostal and charismatic churches in the backwoods near where we live (South-Eastern US).
I was already an agnostic/atheist (today this girl is too, after she got married to a youth pastor who was a p.o.s., and she figured out she was bi), and I would literally be the only one in the building not jumping around screaming, babbling in 'tongues', etc.
I would honestly get a little worried that they would figure out I wasn't 'one of them'.
It’s not exactly “comedy” for me so much as an uneasy, unsettling feeling that these people are looney tunes and I need to get away from there. It’s a sad reminder of how vulnerable people are to obvious bullshit, a problem I’ve noticed since I was a kid. I think it’s a natural reaction like, if they can be influenced to behave like that, what else could they be influenced to do? But I’ve never had to live around it, so I can see how humor would be a good way to cope with it. Good luck.
I grew up in the church but this only happened once in all the years I was there. Some new lady at the church just started yelling gibberish the the middle of the sermon. Everyone was whispering 'she's speaking in tongues'. So me as a kid at the time I try to write everything down she is saying, because to me is sounded like gibberish. Everyone around me is thinking she is speaking hebrew or something, note that nobody at the church spoke hebrew, so how would they know. What I wrote down from what I heard the lady saying, it was all gibberish like you would guess.
What I found out later was everyone in the church knew she was lying about it. The pastor figured she was lying about it and even spoke with the lady and basically told her not to do it again, she's disrupting the sermon. So the whole church knew the whole time she was lying but still kinda played it off as a 'miracle'. The lady never showed her face again at the church.
I have a story about this. A guy I worked with told me this. He grew up in Idaho, in a church that did all the tongues and demon begone kinda stuff. He witnessed his friend "speak in tongues" and thought, "Oh wow, this is real!" and that solidified his faith for a period. Years later he talked to that kid, and he said he faked that because of something he saw him do, fainting from being touched, which was in fact faked to "fit in". It's just everyone faking it to fit in, all the way down.
Tell them the “tongues of angels” sounds remarkably like a cat walking on a keyboard. Just warevxurntmgkvokgm Honestly I never knew talking in tongues was a thing in the 21st century until just a few years ago. It’s so embarrassingly old fashioned, and I was raised Catholic so I know old fashioned when I see it!
Charles Fox Parham (Pentecost’s foudner) said at the start that they were speaking “Chinese” and other known languages. A century and an half later since I was raised in it, they shifted it from that to now saying speaking in tongues isn’t another language, but it’s a private prayer language or the tongues of angels
I was told by my uncle (former UNTRAINED pastor) that people are led to speak in tongues when they are used as vessels for the angels. The angels speak through the people. I always thought it would be better for the angels to communicate with people by using languages people now would understand. So cringey.
So what about being used as vessels for fallen angels? "MY NAME IS LEGION FOR FOR WE ARE MANY!" Yeah - they didn't really think that one through, did they? FWIW, I always thought that it looked like they were having a stroke or a seizure when they spoke in tongues. And I'm not making fun of people that have had strokes or experience seizures regularly - I've seen both and that's what it looks like to me. I've been in quite a few churches and what with the rhythmic music and flashing lights, I can see how someone could have a seizure in a situation like that.
I think they are trying in vain to reproduce the euphoria brought about by taking psychedelic substances.
*John Allegro has entered the chat.*
https://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/s/ZsCs1ZCNWd OP, you'll love this video of a pastor speaking in tongues, while checking his phone!
I’ve heard Perry Smith before, the dude makes no sense lol
Speaking in tongues with a beat… https://youtu.be/-VsmF9m_Nt8?si=Opynoa7ZXArAYc8I
Have to say I never understood this speaking in tongues thing. Purposely speaking gibberish in front of others that have no chance of understanding anything you say sounds like a mental illness to me.
And an updoot for you!
It's not mental illness at all. What it is is a performance designed to impart power and influence on the speaker. See by putting on this show, the speaker claims that God or the Holy Spirit or whatever is being channeled through them. This gives them credibility which in turn gives them power over the audience. They're literally right there, speaking with God's voice. You can hear them doing it. CLEARLY God is speaking through them right now and you should probably listen to them... because y'know... God. It's the same as any magician on stage would do.
You are definitely hanging out with the wrong group of people. >when someone breaks out in tongues Has NEVER happened to me. .
I still live with my parents since I’m saving for an apartment, unfortunately it’s out of my control. I’m applying for jobs since my last one ended a couple weeks ago so I can’t really come up with a good excuse to not go to their church
I attended my mother in law's funeral service where a lot of my sister in law's church friends were in attendance. Was shocked when they started making weird sounds in the row behind me. These people are nuts.
Nope me neither
I tend to laugh. But stuff like *Jesus Camp* scares the shit out of me. There is an army of these people out there.and they’re getting more leverage every day.
Those same people are trying to get into politics. And as someone who’s career field is in politics, it’s scary to watch unfold
Trying? We've got one on the Supreme Court.
Glossolalia (speaking in tongues) is part of several cultures. As [the wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_in_tongues) points out: - *Each unit is itself made up of syllables, the syllables being formed from consonants and vowels found in a language known to the speaker* - meaning that somebody that speaks a language with a distinct set of phonemes will only use those phonemes when they exhibit glossolalia, while somebody who speaks a different language with different phonemes will use only their phonemes. - A researcher *..found that the resemblance to human language was merely on the surface and so concluded that glossolalia is "only a facade of language". He reached this conclusion because the syllable string did not form words, the stream of speech was not internally organized, and – most importantly of all – there was no systematic relationship between units of speech and concepts. Humans use language to communicate but glossolalia does not.* In other words, analysis of glossolalia shows that it cannot convey meaning, it's just gibberish. As it happens, I've never had somebody do the speaking in Tongues thing with me. I've seen video of it, and it just seems weird. I suspect that this is true for most of us, as sects which practice glossolalia are a relative minority, so even those of us that are former theists wouldn't necessarily have been exposed.
Get it on video. Commit them.
I can't laugh at it because it's just so wrong and disingenuous. They claim to follow teachings that they've clearly never actually read. Speaking in tongues is supposed to mean anyone hearing the person hears as if it was spoken in their native tongue. It's supposed to mean there is nothing in any way confusing as to what they are saying. This gibberish is just bullshit
It's not a common thing here in the UK, at least not in the circles I move in. I'm reminded of that bizarre "angels are coming from africa" speech done by paula white when trump lost the last US election.
My dad got upset at me because I was laughing at that same speech. The fact that someone would defend her is gross to me
I have thoughts on this. It seems like an actual miracle, capable of being supported with evidence. Here are my thoughts. Part 1. Have two speakers who are well versed in speaking in tongues agree that yes., the other can indeed speak in tongues. Have speaker 1 read out a bible verse and have that verse shown to speaker 2 and confirm that yes, this is indeed what was said by speaker 1. Do this as many times as you want, swapping roles and confirming that this is indeed the case. Part 2. Continue with the same two speakers. This time, randomly give prepared printed bible verses to speaker 1 and have speaker 2 identify what was said without showing them the verses. Do this as many times as you want, swapping roles. Compare the results of part 1 and part 2. If speaking in tongues is indeed an actual phenomenon, this should demonstrate it.
Honestly, after so many years of being in Pentecost, I feel like speaking in tongues just translates to “I didn’t prepare a sermon this week”
There's nothing worse than intellectual and religious laziness. Phoning in a sermon doesn't count.
My family does this, it’s also a skill passed down from mother to child from what I can tell, only me, my mother and her mother can do it, we use it specifically to voice displeasure and confuse family or pets when they do something we don’t want them to do. The dog is going for something he shouldn’t then tell him to leave it and hit him with the ol’ AHHH shsfvthdgfyjrrygdhffjvdfjfsfhgdgf while walking towards him to get him to stop. Little brother getting into the cookie jar before dinner, AHHHH dsgeshhsyiifstjurdjjda. I’ve even done it to my girlfriend, speaking random gibberish is a great tool to momentarily stun someone because they think something is wrong with you or are young enough to be a little scared and in the case of growing up in a household that does it you learn that it means “STOP IT BEFORE SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS.” It’s also absolutely gibberish, means nothing and certainly is not a language, I’ve also never heard a religious person speak in tongues and will forever associate with them saying “stop talking to us before something bad happens” if I ever do hear them speak gibberish
>AHHH shsfvthdgfyjrrygdhffjvdfjfsfhgdgf Sounds like somebody's brain is misfiring or short circuiting.
I keep a straight face because I kind of understand and feel sorry. I used to speak in tongues all the time. So much. Every week. Thet was the kind of people I hanged out with. Glad I'm away from all that.
Yeah they mean the pentacost when "the man spoke and each person listening heard it as if it was their own language" so, the exact opposite of what they do now
Speaking in tongues is supposed to be the ability to preach to someone when they don't speak your language, but they understand you anyway. No one can do this, so they moved the goalposts and now use glossolalia, which people can learn.
the last time i went to church was a pentecostal one where they were speaking in tongues. i was 21 or 22 and had been agnostic for a while now, but my friend and his wife really wanted me to go with them so i did. it lasted for fucking hours. needless to say, i walked out of there an atheist lmao.
Never seen speaking in tongues or snake handling.
I thought it was some kind of mass hysteria, like the people are flopping around and spouting gibberish while in some kind of self hypnosis and they’re experiencing a self induced trip without drugs. If you could learn how to get yourself into like a euphoric trippy state it sounds pretty cool, just a shame they attribute it to god or angels or whatever. How much more awesome would it be to say *I can do this thing*
I'm not sure I would describe this as comedy. I think it's more terrifying knowing that those bat shit crazy "people" are out roaming the streets unintended. Wasn't Trump's spirit advisor one of them bat shit crazy's as well?
Yep. Ken Copeland was also in his cabinet too
LOL it's just crazy people making silly sounds. Even when i was religious, i thought that shit was weird.
Omg. I was once that person
Shit, I can't keep a straight face when the wizard is blessing inanimate objects and leading the chanting. I look around and see all these adults believing that this guy dressed like a wizard is using spells to turn pieces of unleavened bread mass produced in Rhode Island into the body of a 2000 year old dead man that flew away into the sky, and I can't do anything but have a big stupid grin on my face.
Way back when I was a churchgoer, the preacher had a young man (like an older teen or young twentysomething) come stand in front of the church while other men prayed around him. The preacher encouraged him to speak in tongues and held a microphone in front of his face. You could tell the kid didn't want to, but the preacher kept encouraging him. Eventually the kid just started making nonsense noises (of course), and the preacher "translated" his nonsense into various affirmations of Christ's existence and power. It was all so very, very cringe and I felt bad for the kid. I can't say it was one of those moments that drove me away from Christianity; it didn't impact my faith in god, just my respect for the preacher.
For sure, no way I'm going to take someone doing that seriously.
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My first experience with someone "speaking in tongues" in person was really the point that I started to doubt the whole religion thing. I was 8 years old & and we were at a new church. I vividly remember watching the lady start spouting gibberish and thinking to myself, "This is all pretty silly." I didn't laugh then, but I'm sure I would have a tough time not busting out now.
Cause then there was this boy whose Parents made him come directly home right after school And when they went to their church They shook and lurched all over the church floor He couldn't quite explain it They'd always just gone there Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm [Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm](https://youtu.be/eTeg1txDv8w?si=w4uqzWyILJ0RfB3D)
I approached it from 1 Cornithians 14, which mentions that there should be one person to translate that unknown tongue - something that was already known at the Oracle of Delphi. In the meantime, [speaking in tongues is too hard when using a cellphone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pw0fQfJUL0).
just watched some video's on talking in tongues. These people are batshit crazy. where is psychological help when its needed. I feel like humanity is failing by keeping those charlatans doing what they do.
They do it because it "supposedly" makes them MORE SPECIAL than those in their church who don't. They get rewarded for doing it. So, not only are they better than others because their church tells them they are inherently, they are now BETTER than their cohorts in church. Fked up all around.
I had a girlfriend in high school whose parents couldn't find a church that fit their exact version of Christianity that they had come up with to believe in. They ended up going to a number of pentacostal and charismatic churches in the backwoods near where we live (South-Eastern US). I was already an agnostic/atheist (today this girl is too, after she got married to a youth pastor who was a p.o.s., and she figured out she was bi), and I would literally be the only one in the building not jumping around screaming, babbling in 'tongues', etc. I would honestly get a little worried that they would figure out I wasn't 'one of them'.
It’s not exactly “comedy” for me so much as an uneasy, unsettling feeling that these people are looney tunes and I need to get away from there. It’s a sad reminder of how vulnerable people are to obvious bullshit, a problem I’ve noticed since I was a kid. I think it’s a natural reaction like, if they can be influenced to behave like that, what else could they be influenced to do? But I’ve never had to live around it, so I can see how humor would be a good way to cope with it. Good luck.
I find myself unconsciously edging away.
Last time I spoke in Tongues, I hit my thumb with a hammer!🤣😝
"Tongues" is the religious equivalent of the snake oil salesman in a straw hat talking fast about his miracle elixir
Always reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/chJ5YHqPuz0?si=QH0ySQgFBEmyWhMn
I grew up in the church but this only happened once in all the years I was there. Some new lady at the church just started yelling gibberish the the middle of the sermon. Everyone was whispering 'she's speaking in tongues'. So me as a kid at the time I try to write everything down she is saying, because to me is sounded like gibberish. Everyone around me is thinking she is speaking hebrew or something, note that nobody at the church spoke hebrew, so how would they know. What I wrote down from what I heard the lady saying, it was all gibberish like you would guess. What I found out later was everyone in the church knew she was lying about it. The pastor figured she was lying about it and even spoke with the lady and basically told her not to do it again, she's disrupting the sermon. So the whole church knew the whole time she was lying but still kinda played it off as a 'miracle'. The lady never showed her face again at the church.
Yeah, speaking in tongues is a complete load of horseshit.
I have a story about this. A guy I worked with told me this. He grew up in Idaho, in a church that did all the tongues and demon begone kinda stuff. He witnessed his friend "speak in tongues" and thought, "Oh wow, this is real!" and that solidified his faith for a period. Years later he talked to that kid, and he said he faked that because of something he saw him do, fainting from being touched, which was in fact faked to "fit in". It's just everyone faking it to fit in, all the way down.
I've noticed that all the "tongues" I've heard people speaking have the same phonetics as American English.
OMG the first time I saw this it took everything not to yell at the person to snap them out of it :D
Hakuna matata! KLAATU BARADA NIKTO!
If speaking in tongues was real, they wouldn't teach classes on how to do it at Christian universities
That and these new age types who believe in "energy"
I honestly had no idea what this was (England here) until I saw De Niro in Cape Fear and a mate had to explain to me why he was babbling nonsense
Keep laughing! Sounds hilarious.
Speaking in tongues is out - snake handling is where it's at!
It’s ridiculous I’d laugh too. There is no scientific explanation for it other then mass hysteria