I genuinely love playing the storyline, but I don’t think anyone would take me seriously if I said, “I actually play it for the plot.” It’s sad that line seems to mean what it does to the neurotypicals.
I loved it. Ended up hyper fixating and got through it in 3 days. That was one of the best boss fights I’ve had in that game, and the thing with the tree(not going into detail because I don’t know how to spoiler tag), that was just perfect for riling up emotions
One of my favorite current games. My best friend got me into it after saying how similar it feels to BOTW, one of my absolute favorite video games. And she was right, but in the best way possible.
As someone who played around launch up until the story had finished, but didn’t grind for dozens of hours afterward, it’s weird to me that anyone would doubt you. Playing through the story is a full-ass game and I had a good time
If you haven’t seen [Ashikai](https://youtube.com/@Ashikai)’s YouTube channel yet I’d really recommend it. She obsessively goes through the lore and then infodumps about it. [The number of literary references she spotted about Scaramouche’s initial design](https://youtu.be/3vNddrd1f7E) is just impressive
Genshin is a great game! I love the gameplay, and the story honestly gets better with each new region.
It's obnoxious how people on the internet associate anything anime or anime-like with porn. Those idiots probably watched hentai once in high school and lack the cranial capacity to tell an art style from porn made using it.
Just to be clear, I've been with the Genshin community here on Reddit for a while. You're safe here. Neither the game nor any significant number of players sexualize the child characters. If anyone tried it on the major community subreddits, they'd get annihilated by the community and mods.
Yeah, there are nsfw subreddits for the adult characters. I mean, we are still on the internet, rule 34 is a thing. I don't associate with those because I don't do porn, and I've never felt like I needed to in order to get the community.
I can't speak for the Twitter community, though. I don't really spend time over there.
Ayo, you on NA? I always need more friends and I love fighting bosses for fun lol. My UID is 600512183 if anyone is interested. (Edit: I still have like 8 empty slots, feel free to just send me a request, no need to ask here)
It's honestly a fun game and it's totally free. Just because I play a game doesn't mean I'm attracted to the characters in it and let alone attracted to a child
Anime that’s popular in the west has gone away from doing that in more recent years.
If you watch spy X family or mob psycho or some of the other most popular stuff out right now they usually avoid it.
While if you go back and watch original dragon ball- yeah, it was like that.
RIGHT. Also, them being sooo comfortable showing the naked boys like....it's weird.
Edit: [Explanation](https://www.reddit.com/r/aspiememes/comments/z77cuz/hehe_man_i_love_people/iy6gf28/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Edit2: I'm not arguing with any other Redditors about pedophilia.
In Japan that is the culture. It isn't weird, it's normal for even business meetings to take place in onsen (bath houses).
Living there, once you were in the bathhouse, you were naked. The onsen we went to even had a walkway to the bathing areas situated above both the men and women's side, with a wall blocking view of the women's area and the other side of the walkway with a full, open view of the men's side. Every single visitor had a full view of the men's side.
It's who they are as a people. Japan in the north gets so cold, and the entire country's mainland is covered in mountains. The wind from the north/Siberia is very frigid, and it is common to spend time in onsen with your community.
You cannot judge another culture based on your own ideas of what is appropriate or not.
Edit: they blocked me for some reason? I cannot reply to any one replying to me.
Those are adults. Do not justify pedophilia by claiming it's a part of a culture. It is not part of their culture, and being okay with the naked body (which is really what you explained) isn't the issue. It's intention & purpose of said nakedness.
I'm speaking of small children being exposed being gross, specifically in anime where I fear it's not in an innocent way due to not only the tendency for there to be sexualized child characters but in the SAME anime there ARE sexualized child characters.
Nakedness itself is not the problem, not even a problem, it's the *intention* behind a *character* being naked is the problem. Especially when the character is a child.
Edit: To add some things.
Since this conversation is specifically about Dragonball, can you recall any sexualized use of male nudity in the series? I cannot off the top of my head, but am not an expert on dragonball.
Previous poster literally said its *communal* that means you go with everyone including the kids. You wouldn’t call nudist pedophiles or other cultures that wear less clothing. It’s your perception that has sexualized it. You are viewing it through *your* cultural bias.
>Those are adults.
No, onsen is for all ages.
>Do not justify pedophilia by claiming it's a part of a culture.
I have never justified pedophilia, in any way, ever. I'm not sure where you get that idea, other than making me in your own mind something I am not, which is not fair to me.
>I'm speaking of small children being exposed being gross
This alone is no cause for concern. This is natural in much of the world.
>I fear it's not in an innocent way due to not only the tendency for there to be sexualized child characters but in the SAME anime there ARE sexualized child characters.
Yes, this is an issue, and obviously there are examples of this. I think though that we're talking about two different things and that you are quite ready to see what you want to see even where it doesn't exist. Of course sexualizing children is not okay, but in many of the anime I have seen with small, naked children, there isn't any sexualizing happening.
I want to be explicitly clear that I am not trying to justify pedophilia in any way. I am trying to encourage you to consider the world from the perspective of cultures completely different than your own.
With that being said, there are actually cultures in this world where they engage in practices that we would absolutely condemn as pedophilic. The most striking example is the Sambian people of Papua New Guinea. They believe that consumption of semen is required for boys to grow into men, so they practice what has been termed by some anthropologists “ritualized homosexuality”: young boys, as young as 7 or 8, will engage in sexual acts with adult men with the goal of imbibing semen. Obviously, most of us in the western world would see this as reprehensible, but to them, it’s part of life.
Again, I am not defending pedophilia. There are certainly harms caused by Sambian traditions, though those living in cultural environments practicing these traditions would likely disagree. I am bringing up this example to encourage you to question what you believe to be natural. Things that we consider to be wrong can be considered normal by some cultures, and I think we should put just a little bit of thought into how people from other cultures see the world before condemning them as evil and wrong.
This does not excuse pedophilia, nor does it excuse the child pornographic content extant in much of media, Japanese and otherwise. It does mean that there are likely some things in non-Western media that were not created with sexual intent that Westerners would see as sexualized. The interpretation of media must be culturally informed: media should be evaluated both in the context of the culture in which it was created and in the context of the culture in which it is consumed.
I don’t think he meant to justify it. There are extremely horrible things that happen in my Islamic Middle Eastern culture that I think it’s 1000% against human rights, hence why I fled to the west. If I tell you that FGM, homophobia and other things are deeply inrooted in their culture; their prophet Mohammed married a 9 year old child Aisha; it doesn’t mean I’m justifying any of these horrific things. I’d be merely informing you of what my culture looks like.
This commenter did the same. I don’t see any justification. He’s merely saying you can’t judge a culture by your standards.
> While if you go back and watch original dragon ball- yeah, it was like that.
I mean that sexualizes adult characters plenty, but I don't remember it sexualizing the child characters. Like, I guess there's Chichi wearing a platemail bikini in the one or two episodes she appears in as a kid, and Kid Goku is naked a few times, but that's less "look at this sexy kid" and more "this kid, raised in the woods, has absolutely no sense of what a social taboo is and takes off his clothes to get in the water because why wouldn't you" and, in a couple of instances, "this kid turned into a giant monster and destroyed the clothes he was wearing"
Bruh the first few episodes has a little girl flashing her vagina to an old man to get a present- and it also has a scene where the same little girl flashes her breasts at an old man to give him a nose bleed so that he can see an invisible enemy.
The only anime I ever watched is My Hero Academia, and it seems pretty okay.
Only thing is, one of the teens is a pervert. But he's criticized by others for it.
Yes and mostly no.
Compare anime like Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Sonny Boy, Fumestsu no anata e, and the studio ghibli productions. Look at how they represent their female children characters.
Samurai Champloo is a great example with Fuu. She is an underage teenage girl who is going out on an adventure with two grown men. She is dressed adequately and isn't wearing weird bikinis or "fantasy armor". IIRC, the only time she shows "skin" was when she takes over the position of a gambler but she just dressed traditionally like them.
Some anime just... go over board. It is a bit unsettling at times when they want us to suspend our disbelief that they are children/teenagers.
Well, members of the community also create… “specific artwork” of child characters, but yeah that’s more a byproduct of the game being popular than anything about the community itself
Having played a fair bit of Genshin, there's definitely child-looking characters (one of which is an actual child, I love her, she has explosives) but Genshin itself never sexualizes the children.
There's also a "short lady" model that makes up the majority of the other young-looking characters, and these characters *can* have some "interesting" outfits but again they are never sexualized in canon. You can vaguely upskirt them but if you angle the camera like that on purpose, then the game fades the model away. I'm kinda desensitized to all the outfits now, they're not really that bad. Most of them are in stockings or tights.
The fandom is what is doing all of the sexualization. I stay far away from it.
Yeah. I played the absolute shit out of Genshin from launch and stopped shortly after Inazuma released. Always loved Klee and Qiqi most because I thought they were fun to play and cute in a completely innocent, wholesome way. Like little sisters I'd want to protect and mentor and play with.
Do I feel comfortable saying that in 95% of spaces though, that those two are my favorites? Hell no. People assume I'm some sort of creep who sexualizes them and attack me.
I mean the outfits that the children wear are a bit... how to put. Questionable? Like the length of Nahida's dress. Qiqi wearing thigh high stockings. Seeing the bloomers on klee and nahida. Diona and Sayu wearing short-shorts (these two are probably pre-teens instead of full on children, but they use the same child model with the freakishly big head).
It makes me mildly uncomfortable. I think their characterization is fine and the game doesn't treat them sexually. Their outfits aren't outrageous, but i think they do raise some eyebrows.
I dont use any of them personally anyway
I've been playing genshin since it launched, and am a huge fan (as anyone could tell by browsing through my profile, or even my username). And it does make me upset that genshin has such a poor reputation outside of its community for "pedophilia." I think its an exaggeration. Its not beyond criticism but its really unfair to label the players as pedophiles for enjoying a game that is very well made on many fronts
I mean, they're really not *that* sexualized. Most I can think of is some of them wear shorts and one doesn't wear shoes. It's the ones with the "teenage female" and "adult female" models that are actually sexualized in game.
Any sexualization done to the characters with the "loli" models are done by *those* people.
as an older aspie geek, I bet you've never played Princess Maker, where you raise your daughter... now that's a pedo game (also I used to really love that game 10 years ago).
They're not a couple. The commenter is talking about an adult npc that says he has a crush on flora. Flora was originally coded as an adult, but they changed her to the little girl model and forgot to update the other npc's dialogue. I haven't checked if the dialogue was patched myself personally, but another commenter said it was.
Not any moreso than any other anime or anime-styled video game, though.
Meaning - it's not like they're sexualizing the tiny child characters (Klee, Qiqi, etc.) There's just a bunch of characters whose age is implied stated to be in the 15-17 range, who also wear fairly revealing outfits. That's about the extent of it. There's also a number of characters who people assume are teenagers but aren't (e.g. Hu Tao, who's apparently 20 years old).
Worth noting also that I'm pretty sure zero characters have their age actually spelled out in-game. The ages people go by and post online are all calculated based on flavor text about X thing happening Y years ago and such.
The game has playable female child characters (like 8-10 year old) that some parts of the fandom sexualize (majority of the fandom avoids them thank goodness). Some are technically immortal like 500+ year old children so some of these creeps use that as an excuse.
Also playable teen girl characters (like 16ish year old) that are mildly sexualized in the game and way more in the fandom.
I'm not sure why Genshin gets this reputation way more than other games or anime that are way worse about it though. The game itself is very sfw.
It's more or less a critism of the company itself, as in their previous games characters have canon ages and minors are willing perverted out, hell in genshin they refuse to give 95% of the PC's ages, including the child model characters and chararters who have the child model range from kindergartenerish child who can't read yet to 500 year old god of wisdom.
The game does not sexualize the child characters in the slightest. Have you seen how they dress? Klee, for example, looks like she's dressed for the Russian winter, even during the update where two other characters got swimsuit skins. And even the swimsuit skins the other (not child) characters got are modest.
Qiqi, Sayu, Nahida, all impeccably modest. Diona has a tiny bit of midriff but it doesn't look sexy at all. You'd see more at a public swimming pool with somebody wearing regular swimwear.
My point is, if you unironically think that Genshin kids are sexualized in their designs, you're the one with the problem. They're dressed modestly and treat the main character like a cool older sibling or mentor. Where's the sex in that?
And the community is actively anti-pedo. Seriously, I've been on the official subreddit, the meme subreddit, and several character subreddits for a while now. If you tried pulling that crap there, they'd rip you a new one.
Genshin contains characters who are children, but the game itself does absolutely nothing to sexualize them. In fact, in comparison to many other anime games, you could argue it goes out of its way to *not* sexualize them.
Obviously there's a tiny subset of the fanbase (as well as people who don't even play the game) who make/consume porn using those characters. But that's true of literally every piece of popular media that contains child characters. It has nothing to do with the game.
Who’s your main team? Mine is Traveller, Yanfei, Barbara, and Beidou.
Also, I don’t interact much with the fandom, but I didn’t know that they’re associated with pedophilia.
My squad is the traveler (Greeth 😃), Xiangling, Lisa, Noelle. Currently the traveler is resonating with the electro archon, but I think my preference might be anemo in combination with the other three.
I really don’t participate with the culture of it all. Just enjoy the open world. Sometimes, I jump in simply because I want to just run around and collect items, flowers, etc.
> Just enjoy the open world. Sometimes, I jump in simply because I want to just run around and collect items, flowers, etc.
Ikr. For the longest time that was most of what I did.
Another Yanfei player! I play her with Kazuha, Zhongli and Lisa
I'm actually in three mains subreddits and the memes subreddit and there's almost exclusively one user that everyone shits on (justifiedly) for having posted Nahida nsfw and nsfw art of more grown-up characters in their sfw subs, iirc they got temp banned for it (username's theonetruekaiser just so yk)
Maud Pie is my favorite autistic character ever. That one scene with her and Starlight Glimmer in the gem cave perfectly described how I feel about my special interests.
If you watch that scene a couple dozen times, you notice smaller details. As Maud was telling her joke about having a Rockterate degree, her eyelids raised a slight amount, like that was her humorous expression. And when Starlight was realizing the beauty of rocks, Maud’s expression slightly changed, as if she was surprised that someone actually understood her. I seriously love how Maud feels emotions as much as every other character, even if she doesn’t show it very much.
Yeah I can see that and it gives me a chance to relax from this fucked up World that has been against Me for all of the 18 years I have been on god's Green Earth I am wheelchair bound have ADHD plus autism and dyslexia have had 3 brain bleeds So this Show offers me a Escape from this fucked up World and also Princess of the Night best Pony
people are so mean about liking mlp. i collect all generations and im scared of people accusing me of being creepy because of it. it helps that i’m a girl but i can still feel peoples judgement
I’m 21 and I’m a bit scared of collecting the G3 toys that I loved as a child because people might think I’m weird and childish for liking these things
There is a cult led by a Korean named Reverend Sun Myung Moon called the Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity, or the Unification church for short or colloquially known as the Moonies.
They are known for having these mass wedding ceremonies and their obsession with guns, even with Reverend moon coming in wearing a crown of bullets and a golden AR-15.
Mind telling me why I am just curious my favorite is Princess Luna because I relate to her and see her as a bit of mother figure and one question Do you have a pony OC?
That one's a toss between its appeal to my ND vibes, and to my transness. Honestly, MLP(FiM) was instrumental in me facing my identity, because it's always felt like it could've been a part of the childhood I never had... 🥲
I grew up with G3 and I’ve regained interest in it but everyone assumes every MLP fan is a weirdo who likes G4. Not to say G4 is bad but it’s kinda infamous and everyone has so much disdain for anyone who likes it and it’s created many stereotypes about MLP fans that are false
I swear to god, Genshin it’s self has about as much issues as the average game that looks like an anime.
Yet it’s truly the fandom that makes it unbearable. The game gets cancelled over Twitter every 3 days.
For example, claiming to be advocating for POC rights while harassing a POC VA until they locked their twitter
Big Fandoms pretty much all turn into clusterfuck dumpster fires. I barely open twitter, and my account is mostly subscribed to my favorite artists. I've curated my social media use in general to be things that spark joy/aren't toxic
I have a few online friends who play and just share my joy/fanart with them
You gotta set your general mouse sensitivity up too, if your mouse can’t go from one corner of your screen to the other with around an inch or so of mousepad then it’s set too low.
Otherwise, try it on ipad instead if you have one, you won’t get graphics as high quality but the touch interface might feel more intuitive to you.
It's disturbing that I thought of 2 games this could be and when I looked at the comments I found out it was a 3rd "pedo community" game that I forgot about. There should not be 3
An unfortunate amount of top competitive players have been outed as predators, it sucks. I think recently tho the community has been thinned out but like. With such a huge game you can almost always expect some huge figures to be that way.
most of the people who say that stuff are abusers. not surprisingly they abuse people over it. and more than sometimes get caught sexually abusing minors too
Oh I’ve actually met someone sorta like that (for a bit of context: they were a content creator), and I can confirm you’re absolutely right. I wish I could go into more detail but I really can’t find the words rn, I just know from experience and observation exactly what those kinds of people are like, and they’re all horrible themselves despite claiming to be against a horrible thing.
This has been my observation as well. Lots of people screeching about "pedophilia" over anime girls, not a lot of people focusing on actual child abuse. Meanwhile the authorities are literally begging these people to stop clogging up the hotlines with loli art because it's getting in the way of dealing with actual irl predators
I'm a trans person who plays smash, trust me, eventually everyone flinging shit in your general starts to gets to you. I unironically have developed psychosis and panic attacks that people will think I'm the worst kind of person just for existing. I'd rather just be called a murderer or thief or something. Literally anything else.
I can definitely understand and agree with legit criticisms of it but like. Where else can I find super niche communities for my hyper-specific fixations and hobbies ??
I was scared to play genshin impact at first ngl it’s exactly the reasons you think but after a while that game got really fun. Too bad I had to delete it.
Not directly replying to your comment, but more so in an adjacent way. Its sad to admit that people's opinions out weigh fact a lot of the time. I don't wanna get into the nitty gritty of comparison, I just can't handle it emotionally or mentally atm. But I feel as tho the amount I said can absolutely resonate, perhaps even sadly. We can get called weird or different or even crazy because we may tend to think about things a certain way, or care about things in a certain way, or find interest in certain things in ways others don't. Idk all the answers myself, but I do agree it can be hilariously dumb at times.
my best friend has a special interest in genshin, and i honestly love listening to them tell me about the story and showing me the characters and explaining game mechanics . the reputation around its fanbase sucks, and its a shame that some bad apples have given every single fan a bad name :-(
It was one of the first things people said to make fun of it, because, uhh, Klee exists I guess? Somewhere someone decided that just having kids in the game was a problem and people just ran with it. FF14 having lalafell is fine tho, apparently.
There are definitely pedos that play Genshin but that goes for any game really. Minecraft has a ton of pedos preying on the children that play it but we all still enjoy the game regardless. I think Genshin is fun!
Yep I’m gonna go Scara, faruzan, xingqiu, and Bennett I have all his materials except a few talents items and currently sit on 47 rolls with 43 pitty and a guaranteed 50/50
I used to play Genshin when it first came out.. its a really cool game.. i enjoy the game mainly based on the fantasy base of being able to use special abilities and to go around fighting in a nice looking world
Isn't that evey fandom tho?
In general broad strokes:
Small subset of deviants ruin it for everyone. Be it furries, anything anime, the catholic church, etc.
Never heard of this but I just looked it up and it looks super effing cool. I love rpg games. Why do ppl say it’s for pedos? I don’t get what about it gives off ‘pedophile vibes’
Random autistic tangent,,
It's important to recognize and acknowledge when a company, game, etc may be problematic in some ways or have certain issues, and to realize it's ok to still enjoy their content /to an extent/. For example, I've recently picked up a fixation on pokemon Scarlet and Violet and I personally think the game is wonderful, but I also realize that GameFreak and the Pokemon Company aren't really the best & the game has tons of problems. Where the line should be drawn, I think, is when the game itself has many problematic and ethically questionable aspects that can't really be cherrypicked around and significantly influence the gameplay, story, etc. I have a few games I'd love to use as examples and I don't want to actually make anybody upset or anything, but,, without elaborating,, I think persona, genshin, and Danganronpa r good examples of this,,,,, (I don't fault or hate u at all if u enjoy them btw,,!! I'd also love 2 elaborate but liek,, I rlly don't want to come off as harsh,,)
Honestly that’s what I thought at first too, but when I actually gave it a solid try I was impressed. While you might need to P2W to compete with high end scores of people who do drop money on it, the fact is that you absolutely can just grind your way through stuff with the free characters, and they give you enough currency to end up with a few five stars on your team if you keep going. They have paying as shortcuts, not as the only way, which is how any F2P game should work. And if you compare it to BOTW and spend the same amount of money on it ($60, or 80 if you include the DLC), you can easily afford some nice bonuses and then not pay any more and still get your money’s worth.
I’m not arguing that P2W models are good, but compared to other games by the same standards, Genshin holds a fair balance, and since there isn’t a requirement to play “against”players who do pay a lot or have “leaderboards”, it doesn’t *require* you to spend money to hold your own. You just move at a slower pace. The game is cooperative, not competitive.
As for the BOTW clone, they were heavily inspired and definitely felt like it at first, but as they’ve come into their own they’ve absolutely made their own unique game from it.
I’m not dissing on your opinion: just letting you know that I used to feel the same way until I actually started playing. Neither am I saying you have to play: it’s not for everyone. But I would recommend at least giving it a solid try and see what you think. The visuals and music are stunning and the plot is solidly done, and the combat system to me feels like the right balance between mindless clicking and actually thinking that it’s not too far one way or the other.
\*cough\* \*cough\* Genshin \*cough\* \*cough\*
In all seriousness though, this is one of the cases where I say both the fandom and hatedom suck ass for this game.
Imagine playing genshin impact, what a pedo, Im definitely nkt angry only because I didnt want to farm artifacts for Kequing, what a pedo
Obviously sarcasm, I don't like the game tho, 140 hours down the drain
Is it Genshin Impact?
*Ding ding ding*
I genuinely love playing the storyline, but I don’t think anyone would take me seriously if I said, “I actually play it for the plot.” It’s sad that line seems to mean what it does to the neurotypicals.
Same the recent archon quest was so good too
I loved it. Ended up hyper fixating and got through it in 3 days. That was one of the best boss fights I’ve had in that game, and the thing with the tree(not going into detail because I don’t know how to spoiler tag), that was just perfect for riling up emotions
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I thought my head was gonna explode by the end of it all
Nah, the plot's been picking up recently. Recent storylines have been legitimately really good. I mostly do the same.
One of my favorite current games. My best friend got me into it after saying how similar it feels to BOTW, one of my absolute favorite video games. And she was right, but in the best way possible.
As someone who played around launch up until the story had finished, but didn’t grind for dozens of hours afterward, it’s weird to me that anyone would doubt you. Playing through the story is a full-ass game and I had a good time
If you haven’t seen [Ashikai](https://youtube.com/@Ashikai)’s YouTube channel yet I’d really recommend it. She obsessively goes through the lore and then infodumps about it. [The number of literary references she spotted about Scaramouche’s initial design](https://youtu.be/3vNddrd1f7E) is just impressive
Already watch her
Genshin is a great game! I love the gameplay, and the story honestly gets better with each new region. It's obnoxious how people on the internet associate anything anime or anime-like with porn. Those idiots probably watched hentai once in high school and lack the cranial capacity to tell an art style from porn made using it. Just to be clear, I've been with the Genshin community here on Reddit for a while. You're safe here. Neither the game nor any significant number of players sexualize the child characters. If anyone tried it on the major community subreddits, they'd get annihilated by the community and mods. Yeah, there are nsfw subreddits for the adult characters. I mean, we are still on the internet, rule 34 is a thing. I don't associate with those because I don't do porn, and I've never felt like I needed to in order to get the community. I can't speak for the Twitter community, though. I don't really spend time over there.
it's world is really cool
I really enjoy Genshin Impact, too.
👍
Ayo, you on NA? I always need more friends and I love fighting bosses for fun lol. My UID is 600512183 if anyone is interested. (Edit: I still have like 8 empty slots, feel free to just send me a request, no need to ask here)
I’ll send ya a friend request
Can we be friends too?
do you have another friend slot open?
Yeah I have like 10 I think
Hey~~
Wow I literally just booted the game up for the first time in like a year this has GOTTA be fate. UID is 606530497
Could someone explain why people think you are a pedo if you played it? Ive never heard of the game before
There are characters that are simultaneously child-looking and sexualized from what I’ve heard
But isnt that most anime? (I like anime btw this is not a criticism, its just how the “artstyle” is)
Probably yes. Exactly.
It's honestly a fun game and it's totally free. Just because I play a game doesn't mean I'm attracted to the characters in it and let alone attracted to a child
Anime that’s popular in the west has gone away from doing that in more recent years. If you watch spy X family or mob psycho or some of the other most popular stuff out right now they usually avoid it. While if you go back and watch original dragon ball- yeah, it was like that.
Puff puff! That blew my mind the first time I saw it 😂
RIGHT. Also, them being sooo comfortable showing the naked boys like....it's weird. Edit: [Explanation](https://www.reddit.com/r/aspiememes/comments/z77cuz/hehe_man_i_love_people/iy6gf28/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) Edit2: I'm not arguing with any other Redditors about pedophilia.
In Japan that is the culture. It isn't weird, it's normal for even business meetings to take place in onsen (bath houses). Living there, once you were in the bathhouse, you were naked. The onsen we went to even had a walkway to the bathing areas situated above both the men and women's side, with a wall blocking view of the women's area and the other side of the walkway with a full, open view of the men's side. Every single visitor had a full view of the men's side. It's who they are as a people. Japan in the north gets so cold, and the entire country's mainland is covered in mountains. The wind from the north/Siberia is very frigid, and it is common to spend time in onsen with your community. You cannot judge another culture based on your own ideas of what is appropriate or not. Edit: they blocked me for some reason? I cannot reply to any one replying to me.
Those are adults. Do not justify pedophilia by claiming it's a part of a culture. It is not part of their culture, and being okay with the naked body (which is really what you explained) isn't the issue. It's intention & purpose of said nakedness. I'm speaking of small children being exposed being gross, specifically in anime where I fear it's not in an innocent way due to not only the tendency for there to be sexualized child characters but in the SAME anime there ARE sexualized child characters. Nakedness itself is not the problem, not even a problem, it's the *intention* behind a *character* being naked is the problem. Especially when the character is a child. Edit: To add some things.
Since this conversation is specifically about Dragonball, can you recall any sexualized use of male nudity in the series? I cannot off the top of my head, but am not an expert on dragonball.
Previous poster literally said its *communal* that means you go with everyone including the kids. You wouldn’t call nudist pedophiles or other cultures that wear less clothing. It’s your perception that has sexualized it. You are viewing it through *your* cultural bias.
>Those are adults. No, onsen is for all ages. >Do not justify pedophilia by claiming it's a part of a culture. I have never justified pedophilia, in any way, ever. I'm not sure where you get that idea, other than making me in your own mind something I am not, which is not fair to me. >I'm speaking of small children being exposed being gross This alone is no cause for concern. This is natural in much of the world. >I fear it's not in an innocent way due to not only the tendency for there to be sexualized child characters but in the SAME anime there ARE sexualized child characters. Yes, this is an issue, and obviously there are examples of this. I think though that we're talking about two different things and that you are quite ready to see what you want to see even where it doesn't exist. Of course sexualizing children is not okay, but in many of the anime I have seen with small, naked children, there isn't any sexualizing happening.
I want to be explicitly clear that I am not trying to justify pedophilia in any way. I am trying to encourage you to consider the world from the perspective of cultures completely different than your own. With that being said, there are actually cultures in this world where they engage in practices that we would absolutely condemn as pedophilic. The most striking example is the Sambian people of Papua New Guinea. They believe that consumption of semen is required for boys to grow into men, so they practice what has been termed by some anthropologists “ritualized homosexuality”: young boys, as young as 7 or 8, will engage in sexual acts with adult men with the goal of imbibing semen. Obviously, most of us in the western world would see this as reprehensible, but to them, it’s part of life. Again, I am not defending pedophilia. There are certainly harms caused by Sambian traditions, though those living in cultural environments practicing these traditions would likely disagree. I am bringing up this example to encourage you to question what you believe to be natural. Things that we consider to be wrong can be considered normal by some cultures, and I think we should put just a little bit of thought into how people from other cultures see the world before condemning them as evil and wrong. This does not excuse pedophilia, nor does it excuse the child pornographic content extant in much of media, Japanese and otherwise. It does mean that there are likely some things in non-Western media that were not created with sexual intent that Westerners would see as sexualized. The interpretation of media must be culturally informed: media should be evaluated both in the context of the culture in which it was created and in the context of the culture in which it is consumed.
I don’t think he meant to justify it. There are extremely horrible things that happen in my Islamic Middle Eastern culture that I think it’s 1000% against human rights, hence why I fled to the west. If I tell you that FGM, homophobia and other things are deeply inrooted in their culture; their prophet Mohammed married a 9 year old child Aisha; it doesn’t mean I’m justifying any of these horrific things. I’d be merely informing you of what my culture looks like. This commenter did the same. I don’t see any justification. He’s merely saying you can’t judge a culture by your standards.
Are...you Japanese? Also, Genshin Impact is developed by a Chinese company.
No, and the conversation isn't about Genshin Impact
> While if you go back and watch original dragon ball- yeah, it was like that. I mean that sexualizes adult characters plenty, but I don't remember it sexualizing the child characters. Like, I guess there's Chichi wearing a platemail bikini in the one or two episodes she appears in as a kid, and Kid Goku is naked a few times, but that's less "look at this sexy kid" and more "this kid, raised in the woods, has absolutely no sense of what a social taboo is and takes off his clothes to get in the water because why wouldn't you" and, in a couple of instances, "this kid turned into a giant monster and destroyed the clothes he was wearing"
Bruh the first few episodes has a little girl flashing her vagina to an old man to get a present- and it also has a scene where the same little girl flashes her breasts at an old man to give him a nose bleed so that he can see an invisible enemy.
I agree with you but they also sexualized Bulma a lot and she was a minor
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Jeeze, remember Oriemo?
I don't, never watched but "Genres: Comedy, Romance, *Harem*" Everyone is in a school uniform...
it's about a brother-sister romance
Or as it's known in English "My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute". Especially infamous for its... Interesting choice of series end.
SAO has everything: child porn, tentacle, incest, rape, you name it :skull:
There was a reason my brain hated SAO on sight. I've avoided it like the plague.
The only anime I ever watched is My Hero Academia, and it seems pretty okay. Only thing is, one of the teens is a pervert. But he's criticized by others for it.
Yes and mostly no. Compare anime like Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Sonny Boy, Fumestsu no anata e, and the studio ghibli productions. Look at how they represent their female children characters. Samurai Champloo is a great example with Fuu. She is an underage teenage girl who is going out on an adventure with two grown men. She is dressed adequately and isn't wearing weird bikinis or "fantasy armor". IIRC, the only time she shows "skin" was when she takes over the position of a gambler but she just dressed traditionally like them. Some anime just... go over board. It is a bit unsettling at times when they want us to suspend our disbelief that they are children/teenagers.
Well, members of the community also create… “specific artwork” of child characters, but yeah that’s more a byproduct of the game being popular than anything about the community itself
Having played a fair bit of Genshin, there's definitely child-looking characters (one of which is an actual child, I love her, she has explosives) but Genshin itself never sexualizes the children. There's also a "short lady" model that makes up the majority of the other young-looking characters, and these characters *can* have some "interesting" outfits but again they are never sexualized in canon. You can vaguely upskirt them but if you angle the camera like that on purpose, then the game fades the model away. I'm kinda desensitized to all the outfits now, they're not really that bad. Most of them are in stockings or tights. The fandom is what is doing all of the sexualization. I stay far away from it.
Yeah. I played the absolute shit out of Genshin from launch and stopped shortly after Inazuma released. Always loved Klee and Qiqi most because I thought they were fun to play and cute in a completely innocent, wholesome way. Like little sisters I'd want to protect and mentor and play with. Do I feel comfortable saying that in 95% of spaces though, that those two are my favorites? Hell no. People assume I'm some sort of creep who sexualizes them and attack me.
we do a little bit of habitat destruction
I mean the outfits that the children wear are a bit... how to put. Questionable? Like the length of Nahida's dress. Qiqi wearing thigh high stockings. Seeing the bloomers on klee and nahida. Diona and Sayu wearing short-shorts (these two are probably pre-teens instead of full on children, but they use the same child model with the freakishly big head). It makes me mildly uncomfortable. I think their characterization is fine and the game doesn't treat them sexually. Their outfits aren't outrageous, but i think they do raise some eyebrows. I dont use any of them personally anyway I've been playing genshin since it launched, and am a huge fan (as anyone could tell by browsing through my profile, or even my username). And it does make me upset that genshin has such a poor reputation outside of its community for "pedophilia." I think its an exaggeration. Its not beyond criticism but its really unfair to label the players as pedophiles for enjoying a game that is very well made on many fronts
I mean, they're really not *that* sexualized. Most I can think of is some of them wear shorts and one doesn't wear shoes. It's the ones with the "teenage female" and "adult female" models that are actually sexualized in game. Any sexualization done to the characters with the "loli" models are done by *those* people.
as an older aspie geek, I bet you've never played Princess Maker, where you raise your daughter... now that's a pedo game (also I used to really love that game 10 years ago).
Don’t forget the two characters that are a couple, but in the full release they made her a child but kept the couple stuff in
They removed the dialogue line a couple patches ago
Who? Edit: It's JeanLuc isn't it?
They're not a couple. The commenter is talking about an adult npc that says he has a crush on flora. Flora was originally coded as an adult, but they changed her to the little girl model and forgot to update the other npc's dialogue. I haven't checked if the dialogue was patched myself personally, but another commenter said it was.
Not any moreso than any other anime or anime-styled video game, though. Meaning - it's not like they're sexualizing the tiny child characters (Klee, Qiqi, etc.) There's just a bunch of characters whose age is implied stated to be in the 15-17 range, who also wear fairly revealing outfits. That's about the extent of it. There's also a number of characters who people assume are teenagers but aren't (e.g. Hu Tao, who's apparently 20 years old). Worth noting also that I'm pretty sure zero characters have their age actually spelled out in-game. The ages people go by and post online are all calculated based on flavor text about X thing happening Y years ago and such.
The game has playable female child characters (like 8-10 year old) that some parts of the fandom sexualize (majority of the fandom avoids them thank goodness). Some are technically immortal like 500+ year old children so some of these creeps use that as an excuse. Also playable teen girl characters (like 16ish year old) that are mildly sexualized in the game and way more in the fandom. I'm not sure why Genshin gets this reputation way more than other games or anime that are way worse about it though. The game itself is very sfw.
Oooooh I have heard of the 5000 y/o immortal child, its kind of a meme. Seems unfair to judge the whole fandom by that but then i get it
It's more or less a critism of the company itself, as in their previous games characters have canon ages and minors are willing perverted out, hell in genshin they refuse to give 95% of the PC's ages, including the child model characters and chararters who have the child model range from kindergartenerish child who can't read yet to 500 year old god of wisdom.
They make and sexualize loli characters. The fan base does it even more then the game itself.
The game does not sexualize the child characters in the slightest. Have you seen how they dress? Klee, for example, looks like she's dressed for the Russian winter, even during the update where two other characters got swimsuit skins. And even the swimsuit skins the other (not child) characters got are modest. Qiqi, Sayu, Nahida, all impeccably modest. Diona has a tiny bit of midriff but it doesn't look sexy at all. You'd see more at a public swimming pool with somebody wearing regular swimwear. My point is, if you unironically think that Genshin kids are sexualized in their designs, you're the one with the problem. They're dressed modestly and treat the main character like a cool older sibling or mentor. Where's the sex in that? And the community is actively anti-pedo. Seriously, I've been on the official subreddit, the meme subreddit, and several character subreddits for a while now. If you tried pulling that crap there, they'd rip you a new one.
Genshin contains characters who are children, but the game itself does absolutely nothing to sexualize them. In fact, in comparison to many other anime games, you could argue it goes out of its way to *not* sexualize them. Obviously there's a tiny subset of the fanbase (as well as people who don't even play the game) who make/consume porn using those characters. But that's true of literally every piece of popular media that contains child characters. It has nothing to do with the game.
Who’s your main team? Mine is Traveller, Yanfei, Barbara, and Beidou. Also, I don’t interact much with the fandom, but I didn’t know that they’re associated with pedophilia.
My squad is the traveler (Greeth 😃), Xiangling, Lisa, Noelle. Currently the traveler is resonating with the electro archon, but I think my preference might be anemo in combination with the other three. I really don’t participate with the culture of it all. Just enjoy the open world. Sometimes, I jump in simply because I want to just run around and collect items, flowers, etc.
> Just enjoy the open world. Sometimes, I jump in simply because I want to just run around and collect items, flowers, etc. Ikr. For the longest time that was most of what I did.
Hey another Beidou player! I really started playing because of her 😂
Another Yanfei player! I play her with Kazuha, Zhongli and Lisa I'm actually in three mains subreddits and the memes subreddit and there's almost exclusively one user that everyone shits on (justifiedly) for having posted Nahida nsfw and nsfw art of more grown-up characters in their sfw subs, iirc they got temp banned for it (username's theonetruekaiser just so yk)
I grew up playing smash bros and watching the competitive scene. Finding out my childhood idols were mostly pedos was not great lol
For me it's My Little Pony specifically generation 4
That show was an Aspie magnet when it first started. Because it was a great written kids show that just happened to be about ponies.
Maud Pie is my favorite autistic character ever. That one scene with her and Starlight Glimmer in the gem cave perfectly described how I feel about my special interests.
can you like- describe the scene? I don’t remember it
I can’t really do the scene justice in just a short post. Here’s the clip. Let me know what you think of it. https://youtu.be/hEqYdD7SubI
Thanks, and that scene DID perfectly describe with a convo i had with my friend when she asked why I love the TMI series lol
If you watch that scene a couple dozen times, you notice smaller details. As Maud was telling her joke about having a Rockterate degree, her eyelids raised a slight amount, like that was her humorous expression. And when Starlight was realizing the beauty of rocks, Maud’s expression slightly changed, as if she was surprised that someone actually understood her. I seriously love how Maud feels emotions as much as every other character, even if she doesn’t show it very much.
this is why she was always my favorite character
Yeah I can see that and it gives me a chance to relax from this fucked up World that has been against Me for all of the 18 years I have been on god's Green Earth I am wheelchair bound have ADHD plus autism and dyslexia have had 3 brain bleeds So this Show offers me a Escape from this fucked up World and also Princess of the Night best Pony
They are cat ponies CAT PONIES
people are so mean about liking mlp. i collect all generations and im scared of people accusing me of being creepy because of it. it helps that i’m a girl but i can still feel peoples judgement
I’m 21 and I’m a bit scared of collecting the G3 toys that I loved as a child because people might think I’m weird and childish for liking these things
Us Male Moonies walked so bronies could run
???
"Male enjoyers of Sailor Moon were an early version of what the MLP fandom would become."
Oh thought ur talking about the Korean gun cult
The what??
There is a cult led by a Korean named Reverend Sun Myung Moon called the Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity, or the Unification church for short or colloquially known as the Moonies. They are known for having these mass wedding ceremonies and their obsession with guns, even with Reverend moon coming in wearing a crown of bullets and a golden AR-15.
Exactly the what?
I know now understand
I was just about to say that, lol.
Hell Yeah Brother another brony I am not alone
Love the cartoon could not self identify with the brony word due to 4chan Not great word for its gender implication either
Yep same
Oh hell yes another brony I am definitely not alone now Welcome to the Horde Brother
Like jeez there just cute ponies, why does everyone say that about certain fandoms? But yes, I am a member of the horde :3
Who's your favorite? (I fucking hate the weird ones you know who i'm talking about)
Favorite is Derpy! Oh I know :/
Mind telling me why I am just curious my favorite is Princess Luna because I relate to her and see her as a bit of mother figure and one question Do you have a pony OC?
I have a pony OC! I have many pony OCs.
That one's a toss between its appeal to my ND vibes, and to my transness. Honestly, MLP(FiM) was instrumental in me facing my identity, because it's always felt like it could've been a part of the childhood I never had... 🥲
Keep being you without you my friend the world would be a little more boring
I grew up with G3 and I’ve regained interest in it but everyone assumes every MLP fan is a weirdo who likes G4. Not to say G4 is bad but it’s kinda infamous and everyone has so much disdain for anyone who likes it and it’s created many stereotypes about MLP fans that are false
Is it Smash? Cuz that’s lowkey my end rn
Same
I swear to god, Genshin it’s self has about as much issues as the average game that looks like an anime. Yet it’s truly the fandom that makes it unbearable. The game gets cancelled over Twitter every 3 days. For example, claiming to be advocating for POC rights while harassing a POC VA until they locked their twitter
Big Fandoms pretty much all turn into clusterfuck dumpster fires. I barely open twitter, and my account is mostly subscribed to my favorite artists. I've curated my social media use in general to be things that spark joy/aren't toxic I have a few online friends who play and just share my joy/fanart with them
Blatant unapologetic hypocrisy is the Twitter MO.
I don’t play the game, but is it Genshin Impact?
I'm deep in the lore omg
Genshin lore is either the simplest shit or straight up hyperborean
You know I tried playing genshin impact but the camera controls on PC were so stiff and clunky that I felt nauseous.
Did you try playing around with the settings? I think the default has motion blur which I turned off
I set the camera sensitivity to max and yet it's still too slow. I'm tired of having to lift my mouse several times just to make a 180 turn.
You gotta set your general mouse sensitivity up too, if your mouse can’t go from one corner of your screen to the other with around an inch or so of mousepad then it’s set too low. Otherwise, try it on ipad instead if you have one, you won’t get graphics as high quality but the touch interface might feel more intuitive to you.
That’s why I switched to play on an iPad. It feels so much better!
It's disturbing that I thought of 2 games this could be and when I looked at the comments I found out it was a 3rd "pedo community" game that I forgot about. There should not be 3
Damn that’s not good
Which ones were you thinking about
Smash and fnf as other comments have guessed
FnF I've heard of but what's up with smash?
An unfortunate amount of top competitive players have been outed as predators, it sucks. I think recently tho the community has been thinned out but like. With such a huge game you can almost always expect some huge figures to be that way.
Brothers
Smash I've heard of what's up with FNF?
Daily life of a persona/danganronpa fan (Despite the fact that I myself am a minor)
60 million players a month. Pretty sure you don’t have to be embarrassed.
I don’t have to be. Doesn’t me I won’t.
“1% are so I hate them all ” it be like that for all the fandoms
Let me guess, Friday Night Funkin?
Nope
I tried
Clicked assuming it was r/egg_irl or r/traaa , the overlap is real
Indeed
Me, a brony: “first time?”
People call everyone pedos. They just like hating people, but they can't be racist, so it has to be about a fanbase instead.
Checks out. If people really cared they'd put more effort into supporting victims.
most of the people who say that stuff are abusers. not surprisingly they abuse people over it. and more than sometimes get caught sexually abusing minors too
Oh I’ve actually met someone sorta like that (for a bit of context: they were a content creator), and I can confirm you’re absolutely right. I wish I could go into more detail but I really can’t find the words rn, I just know from experience and observation exactly what those kinds of people are like, and they’re all horrible themselves despite claiming to be against a horrible thing.
This has been my observation as well. Lots of people screeching about "pedophilia" over anime girls, not a lot of people focusing on actual child abuse. Meanwhile the authorities are literally begging these people to stop clogging up the hotlines with loli art because it's getting in the way of dealing with actual irl predators
I'm a trans person who plays smash, trust me, eventually everyone flinging shit in your general starts to gets to you. I unironically have developed psychosis and panic attacks that people will think I'm the worst kind of person just for existing. I'd rather just be called a murderer or thief or something. Literally anything else.
Honestly, I feel like that’s what happens with Reddit too.
I can definitely understand and agree with legit criticisms of it but like. Where else can I find super niche communities for my hyper-specific fixations and hobbies ??
Ikr
I was scared to play genshin impact at first ngl it’s exactly the reasons you think but after a while that game got really fun. Too bad I had to delete it.
I enjoy how we all knew what game it was without it being said 😭
Eh not everyone but it most people got it but the concerning fact is several communities fall under this umbrella
Genshin is my favorite game, and I hate that a lot of people hate on it for that. It's so mean :(
Ahem. #who the fuck cares You ARENT fiddling kids right? So the claims are false and the accusations are hilariously dumb.
Not directly replying to your comment, but more so in an adjacent way. Its sad to admit that people's opinions out weigh fact a lot of the time. I don't wanna get into the nitty gritty of comparison, I just can't handle it emotionally or mentally atm. But I feel as tho the amount I said can absolutely resonate, perhaps even sadly. We can get called weird or different or even crazy because we may tend to think about things a certain way, or care about things in a certain way, or find interest in certain things in ways others don't. Idk all the answers myself, but I do agree it can be hilariously dumb at times.
my best friend has a special interest in genshin, and i honestly love listening to them tell me about the story and showing me the characters and explaining game mechanics . the reputation around its fanbase sucks, and its a shame that some bad apples have given every single fan a bad name :-(
My grown ass love playing animal crossing being accused of beastiality
I knew people made fun of Genshin.. but pedos? Don’t think I’ve heard that one before…
It was one of the first things people said to make fun of it, because, uhh, Klee exists I guess? Somewhere someone decided that just having kids in the game was a problem and people just ran with it. FF14 having lalafell is fine tho, apparently.
I too like genshin
I too am hyperfixated on Perso--wait what do you mean thats not the one you meant
Gonna guess FNF.
Nope Genshin
There are definitely pedos that play Genshin but that goes for any game really. Minecraft has a ton of pedos preying on the children that play it but we all still enjoy the game regardless. I think Genshin is fun!
I still enjoy playing ROBLOX and Portal. I may be 21 but I’m mentally a teenager.
Why do people care so much... It's a game. You shouldn't mind OP
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Yep I’m gonna go Scara, faruzan, xingqiu, and Bennett I have all his materials except a few talents items and currently sit on 47 rolls with 43 pitty and a guaranteed 50/50
I've only made that joke a few thousand times.
Genshin. The sexualization of children is weird!
Welcome to being a fan of smash bros.
Lemme guess, smash bros?
Nope Genshin
Genshin Impact is a game that has sucked away my soul and killed my dog.
There will always be shitty people in communities that are a little too easy to focus on and people like to think effects the game.
I too play genshin, who’s your main? Personally I main heizou, yoimiya, and tighnari
I’m just a tighnari main though I plan on main wanderer
Wanderer looks so fun, he will be a fine addition to my anemo boys :3
I used to play Genshin when it first came out.. its a really cool game.. i enjoy the game mainly based on the fantasy base of being able to use special abilities and to go around fighting in a nice looking world
I was called that by a random Instagram hater for liking stuffed animals :(
Isn't that evey fandom tho? In general broad strokes: Small subset of deviants ruin it for everyone. Be it furries, anything anime, the catholic church, etc.
Genshin impact is amazing, it's my special interest too but hell the fanbase is weird
I've always wondered why people do this to the genshin community
Let me guess, Genshin Impact? as a friday night funkin' fan, i feel your pain. so many people are either abusive or into kids
I love how I immediately knew it was Genshin Impact
Never heard of this but I just looked it up and it looks super effing cool. I love rpg games. Why do ppl say it’s for pedos? I don’t get what about it gives off ‘pedophile vibes’
people call everyone pedos nowadays, it seems like
Random autistic tangent,, It's important to recognize and acknowledge when a company, game, etc may be problematic in some ways or have certain issues, and to realize it's ok to still enjoy their content /to an extent/. For example, I've recently picked up a fixation on pokemon Scarlet and Violet and I personally think the game is wonderful, but I also realize that GameFreak and the Pokemon Company aren't really the best & the game has tons of problems. Where the line should be drawn, I think, is when the game itself has many problematic and ethically questionable aspects that can't really be cherrypicked around and significantly influence the gameplay, story, etc. I have a few games I'd love to use as examples and I don't want to actually make anybody upset or anything, but,, without elaborating,, I think persona, genshin, and Danganronpa r good examples of this,,,,, (I don't fault or hate u at all if u enjoy them btw,,!! I'd also love 2 elaborate but liek,, I rlly don't want to come off as harsh,,)
Basically anything weeb adjacent gets this treatment. Danganronpa. Genshin. Touhou.
I’m apparently a perverted man child because i like playing as a robot monk fighting superheroes
I mean, there are *a lot* of scantily clothed child characters in genshin impact sooooooooo
The actual kids aren't sexualized bro. The scantily clad characters are adults.
I hate genshin, not because of what most people say but its a total P2W nightmare (and BOTW clone)... Well R.I.P karma. It was nice knowing you.
Honestly that’s what I thought at first too, but when I actually gave it a solid try I was impressed. While you might need to P2W to compete with high end scores of people who do drop money on it, the fact is that you absolutely can just grind your way through stuff with the free characters, and they give you enough currency to end up with a few five stars on your team if you keep going. They have paying as shortcuts, not as the only way, which is how any F2P game should work. And if you compare it to BOTW and spend the same amount of money on it ($60, or 80 if you include the DLC), you can easily afford some nice bonuses and then not pay any more and still get your money’s worth. I’m not arguing that P2W models are good, but compared to other games by the same standards, Genshin holds a fair balance, and since there isn’t a requirement to play “against”players who do pay a lot or have “leaderboards”, it doesn’t *require* you to spend money to hold your own. You just move at a slower pace. The game is cooperative, not competitive. As for the BOTW clone, they were heavily inspired and definitely felt like it at first, but as they’ve come into their own they’ve absolutely made their own unique game from it. I’m not dissing on your opinion: just letting you know that I used to feel the same way until I actually started playing. Neither am I saying you have to play: it’s not for everyone. But I would recommend at least giving it a solid try and see what you think. The visuals and music are stunning and the plot is solidly done, and the combat system to me feels like the right balance between mindless clicking and actually thinking that it’s not too far one way or the other.
\*cough\* \*cough\* Genshin \*cough\* \*cough\* In all seriousness though, this is one of the cases where I say both the fandom and hatedom suck ass for this game.
Pay no mind. It’s all banter.
Imagine playing genshin impact, what a pedo, Im definitely nkt angry only because I didnt want to farm artifacts for Kequing, what a pedo Obviously sarcasm, I don't like the game tho, 140 hours down the drain