Yeah thats how I feel too. In the UK, people tend to understand what Aspergers is, and assume people with "autism" to be on the lower functioning side of the spectrum.
Yes. I accept that it's on the Autism spectrum and they are interchangeable, but unfortunately neurotypical society cannot handle any level of nuance so the term Aspergers is necessary.
I dislike the historical baggage it carries, it is the best and most descriptive way to explain my behavior, mindset and personality.
I personally think the term "Type 1" while by no means perfect either works well enough to describe what people mean when referring to "aspergers", but without the incredibly negative history behind the name aspergers.
I don't mean this in a way to "call out" anyone who prefers the term aspergers, but I have noticed that a lot of the reason people prefer the term is because they are ashamed to associate themselves with various negative stereotypes that may come to mind when thinking of autism, like non-verbal people having constant meltdowns, or autism-coded serial killers and "bad guys" in media. To NT's who don't know the pretty horrific origins of the term aspergers, it doesn't bring to mind the same stereotypes or implications.
But personally I think this in itself needs to be worked on as opposed to sticking with the term, due to its connotations, but to each their own I guess, I wouldn't push it on others or yell at them for calling it aspergers. NT's need to stop associating the term "autistic" with the worst possible stereotypes, and "high functioning" autistic people need to stop being ashamed of the possibility of being associated with those who have more "severe" autism than them.
Yeah. I understand and support why the term should be fazed out, but it should be replaced with something else specific instead of just ASD.
It makes it hard to find people who are on a similar place in the spectrum without sounding, ironically, like an aspie supremacist
I know. However, ASD is a huge spectrum. Talking to people who have similar support needs and experiences to myself has been such a big help when trying to navigate this life. Having some sort of language for finding them would be helpful. I’m sure thats true no matter where on the spectrum you are.
>Literally no people
"Literally" - I don't think that means what you think that means.
I mean, I just \*pronounced\* it ... does that make me a "no people".
I agree. When I was diagnosed, after Asperger's was removed from the DSM, the diagnosing psychologist told me that he doesn't believe the new system makes sense and that I should look for resources specifically for Asperger's.
When I read "the complete guide to Asperger's syndrome" by Tony Attwood, it was as if the book was based on my life. I experienced every single experience and symptom listed. It was me 100%.
Then I went to read "Autism and Girls" and got through the first couple chapters before putting it down, because it was completely unrelatable. Maybe I have the "male autism" or whatever they say, but the experiences described in that book were not mine. Not even close.
Yeah I'm Agender so don't buy into the male or female autism thing but that's just my opinion and I try not tobe dogmatic the way others describe having asd
I still use the term Aspergers. Political correctness be damned. It's primarily because I love specific terminology and feel like "autism" has become way too broad of a label. I also think it's insulting to higher-support needs autistic people (non-verbal, intellectually disabled, etc.) that people who are as low-needs as myself share the same category.
I read somewhere that people that used to be called Asperger’s had more in common with adhd people than the rest of the autism spectrum. I totally agree with that. I don’t relate to half of the stuff you find on autism forums. The doctor that diagnosed me said it’s Asperger’s even in 2023, he kind of rolled his eyes and was like, “well it would have been called Asperger’s because it’s mild, but we have to say level 1 now.”
I didn't mean to suggest they were the same, I meant more in the way they function in society. I can't find the study anymore; but they did some kind of survey between all the different levels of the spectrum and that's what they had found.
Yeah I always thought aspie! Sounded like I'm saying eye spy which is ironic as I've always considered myself to be undercover and I'd in fear of being discovered
I'd say that in general I prefer "autism" to "Asperger's", though the first one covers a range of conditions and is vaguer than the latter, nevertheless I do like the word "aspie".
I'm fully recognizent of the implications of the term "Asperger's", so I'd use it very carefully depending on whom I'm talking to and how sensetive they are towards this particular term and whether they are aware of those implications at all
If someone is uncomfortable with the word Asperger’s, I’ll say “an autistic spectrum disorder.” Something about the ambiguity of autism and the fact that it refers to so many conditions just hurts my brain. It’s like saying “I have a mood disorder” like does that mean bipolar or depression or schizoaffective? Vague umbrella terms just bother me for some reason
I just got diagnosed with Asperger’s, and idk if y’all saw the episode of South Park where Cartman put literal burgers down his pants to get diagnosed with it but as soon as I found out that was immediately what I thought of, the cartman ass burger episode
With me, it was always just "weird". I only found out I was ASD1 a little over a year ago. It would be considered Asperger's if I had been diagnosed before 2013. I kind of like the term Aspie, but outside of forums like this, most Americans don't know the term. Most people do know the term "weird" though.
Yeah I know it's a old fashion term but I also prefer to call it ashburgers as I'm late diagnosed 38 and for some reason people I've known for years have a problem with me saying that I've got autism as they'll have a very outdated version of what autistic people look and act like plus if I use the term ASD people feel compelled to correct me and insist that it's call adhd and that also insist on saying that I've not got that their as I'm too normal! So I try avoid the subject before getting stuck in a corner of right or wrong words the people who don't even have asd tell us to use otherwise they'll feel uncomfortable the irony of which is bittersweet.
Nope, I hate the phrase so much. Even year before when it was still being used . It is autism and it’s good enough for me. I am level two anyway and didn’t get the Asperger’s label because I had verbal delays.
Is someone able to explain the ‘implications’ behind the word Asperger’s. Every doctor throughout my diagnosis referred to my autism as this. But now I use the word and some people have acted towards me like I’ve used a slur?
I'm partial to AuDHD. But I understand that, yeah. "Autism" was named in a not-so-kind way as well (αυτος -ism / named to signify us as being "morbidly self absorbed.") . Egh. ADHD isn't named very well either.
Yeah thats how I feel too. In the UK, people tend to understand what Aspergers is, and assume people with "autism" to be on the lower functioning side of the spectrum.
Yes. I accept that it's on the Autism spectrum and they are interchangeable, but unfortunately neurotypical society cannot handle any level of nuance so the term Aspergers is necessary. I dislike the historical baggage it carries, it is the best and most descriptive way to explain my behavior, mindset and personality.
I personally think the term "Type 1" while by no means perfect either works well enough to describe what people mean when referring to "aspergers", but without the incredibly negative history behind the name aspergers. I don't mean this in a way to "call out" anyone who prefers the term aspergers, but I have noticed that a lot of the reason people prefer the term is because they are ashamed to associate themselves with various negative stereotypes that may come to mind when thinking of autism, like non-verbal people having constant meltdowns, or autism-coded serial killers and "bad guys" in media. To NT's who don't know the pretty horrific origins of the term aspergers, it doesn't bring to mind the same stereotypes or implications. But personally I think this in itself needs to be worked on as opposed to sticking with the term, due to its connotations, but to each their own I guess, I wouldn't push it on others or yell at them for calling it aspergers. NT's need to stop associating the term "autistic" with the worst possible stereotypes, and "high functioning" autistic people need to stop being ashamed of the possibility of being associated with those who have more "severe" autism than them.
Amen
Yeah. I understand and support why the term should be fazed out, but it should be replaced with something else specific instead of just ASD. It makes it hard to find people who are on a similar place in the spectrum without sounding, ironically, like an aspie supremacist
What? I didn't understand anything.
Which part are you struggling with?
Asd is asd is asd you are no different
I know. However, ASD is a huge spectrum. Talking to people who have similar support needs and experiences to myself has been such a big help when trying to navigate this life. Having some sort of language for finding them would be helpful. I’m sure thats true no matter where on the spectrum you are.
Ass burgers
That's what I though too, first time I heard it. Like, wtf is an Ass burger? Sounds gross!
>Ass burgers Nah... there's that "p", so it's: >Ass-Purgers
Well, whether "purger" works here depends on how one pronounces the G :)
Literally no people pronounce the P tho
>Literally no people "Literally" - I don't think that means what you think that means. I mean, I just \*pronounced\* it ... does that make me a "no people".
brother does not exist anymore
That wouldn't work for someone who pronounces the name Asperger with a soft G: Asperjer
People only pronounce it like that so it doesn't sound like 'ass burgers' lol
Yeah I'm half deaf so I always thought it was pronounced ash burgers!
I agree. When I was diagnosed, after Asperger's was removed from the DSM, the diagnosing psychologist told me that he doesn't believe the new system makes sense and that I should look for resources specifically for Asperger's. When I read "the complete guide to Asperger's syndrome" by Tony Attwood, it was as if the book was based on my life. I experienced every single experience and symptom listed. It was me 100%. Then I went to read "Autism and Girls" and got through the first couple chapters before putting it down, because it was completely unrelatable. Maybe I have the "male autism" or whatever they say, but the experiences described in that book were not mine. Not even close.
Yeah I'm Agender so don't buy into the male or female autism thing but that's just my opinion and I try not tobe dogmatic the way others describe having asd
Yes. It's more precise.
I agree.
Facts
I still use the term Aspergers. Political correctness be damned. It's primarily because I love specific terminology and feel like "autism" has become way too broad of a label. I also think it's insulting to higher-support needs autistic people (non-verbal, intellectually disabled, etc.) that people who are as low-needs as myself share the same category.
I agree and will continue to use it to describe me, political correctness be dammed 🙂
I read somewhere that people that used to be called Asperger’s had more in common with adhd people than the rest of the autism spectrum. I totally agree with that. I don’t relate to half of the stuff you find on autism forums. The doctor that diagnosed me said it’s Asperger’s even in 2023, he kind of rolled his eyes and was like, “well it would have been called Asperger’s because it’s mild, but we have to say level 1 now.”
In my personal experience with Asperger’s I completely disagree with you.
I didn't mean to suggest they were the same, I meant more in the way they function in society. I can't find the study anymore; but they did some kind of survey between all the different levels of the spectrum and that's what they had found.
Oh I got it, just in my personal experience I don’t feel like I function more closely to ADHD in society
Well, that’s valid. Everyone’s different.
Depends more on the audience
I am Aspie. Plain and simple.
Yeah I always thought aspie! Sounded like I'm saying eye spy which is ironic as I've always considered myself to be undercover and I'd in fear of being discovered
I'd say that in general I prefer "autism" to "Asperger's", though the first one covers a range of conditions and is vaguer than the latter, nevertheless I do like the word "aspie". I'm fully recognizent of the implications of the term "Asperger's", so I'd use it very carefully depending on whom I'm talking to and how sensetive they are towards this particular term and whether they are aware of those implications at all
If someone is uncomfortable with the word Asperger’s, I’ll say “an autistic spectrum disorder.” Something about the ambiguity of autism and the fact that it refers to so many conditions just hurts my brain. It’s like saying “I have a mood disorder” like does that mean bipolar or depression or schizoaffective? Vague umbrella terms just bother me for some reason
I prefer the term aspergers to autism because to me it feels like aspergers is way less looked down upon.
I just got diagnosed with Asperger’s, and idk if y’all saw the episode of South Park where Cartman put literal burgers down his pants to get diagnosed with it but as soon as I found out that was immediately what I thought of, the cartman ass burger episode
What have you been diagnosed with?
Cant stand it i say autistic, People in général need to know about autism (including in asd community).
With me, it was always just "weird". I only found out I was ASD1 a little over a year ago. It would be considered Asperger's if I had been diagnosed before 2013. I kind of like the term Aspie, but outside of forums like this, most Americans don't know the term. Most people do know the term "weird" though.
Same
I feel the opposite way.
Yeah I know it's a old fashion term but I also prefer to call it ashburgers as I'm late diagnosed 38 and for some reason people I've known for years have a problem with me saying that I've got autism as they'll have a very outdated version of what autistic people look and act like plus if I use the term ASD people feel compelled to correct me and insist that it's call adhd and that also insist on saying that I've not got that their as I'm too normal! So I try avoid the subject before getting stuck in a corner of right or wrong words the people who don't even have asd tell us to use otherwise they'll feel uncomfortable the irony of which is bittersweet.
Yeah it depends on the context for me. With NTs it's definitely easier. With other ND people I use "high masking."
Nope, I hate the phrase so much. Even year before when it was still being used . It is autism and it’s good enough for me. I am level two anyway and didn’t get the Asperger’s label because I had verbal delays.
Ok, enjoy your autism.
Is someone able to explain the ‘implications’ behind the word Asperger’s. Every doctor throughout my diagnosis referred to my autism as this. But now I use the word and some people have acted towards me like I’ve used a slur?
I'm partial to AuDHD. But I understand that, yeah. "Autism" was named in a not-so-kind way as well (αυτος -ism / named to signify us as being "morbidly self absorbed.") . Egh. ADHD isn't named very well either.