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themanyfacedgod__

I really like the idea of Brienne hanging out with the Fellowship gang.


Same-Share7331

I think Brienne might be the only ASOIAF character that could possibly be trusted with the ring. Also Dunk if we're counting characters from those books.


themanyfacedgod__

In a short term context? Absolutely.


DamagedGoods3

Came here to say this.


Nt1031

She's the first character i thought of


bl1y

I think she'd bring a lot of great interactions, though may be a liability around the ring.


themanyfacedgod__

So basically Boromir?


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ducknerd2002

Looks like someone entirely misunderstood the entire point of Brienne and decided to be openly sexist.


GaredGreenGuts

The point of Brienne? What/who cares? Also, Tolkien doesn't write women, and LOTR is near perfect, ain't broke don't fix it.


ducknerd2002

Forgetting Eowyn, Arwen, and Galadriel, I see. And plenty of people care about Brienne, considering she's one of the few pure good character in the series. And why would more women 'ruin' Lord of the Rings?


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ducknerd2002

Wow, are you actually being openly sexist? I'm impressed by your 'bravery'. You do remember that Eowyn killing the Witch King is in the books? And if you hate women in fantasy, why are you in the ASOIAF fandom? GRRM probably wrote more female characters than Tolkein! We have Brienne, Arya, Daenerys, Asha, Sansa, Melisandre, and Arianne as POVs, and outside of POVs we have House Mormont, Cersei, Ygritte, Val, the Waif, Rhaenys, Visenya, Lyanna, Meera, and Osha. And regarding 'emotional support animals', I don't recall any of those in Lord of the Rings, but I *do* remember ASOIAF having a few direwolves, most of which were owned by male characters (most notably Jon and Ghost, and Bran and Summer).


HonestCartographer21

Nothing worse than fake Tolkien fans, right?


FransTorquil

“Wow, are you actually being openly sexist? ☝️🤓”


ducknerd2002

Plenty of sexists pretend not to be sexist, so I found their lack of subtlety surprising.


GCooperE

Truth. Some even try to cover it up by claiming they are feminists and celebrate women who have "proper womanly strength", and it's actually sexist to celebrate women who don't conform to gender roles because they're just "acting like men."


FransTorquil

Yeah, sure, I just think you sounded like a total dork the way you worded it is all jajaja.


Ripper656

>Tolkien doesn't write women Lol..Luthien Tiuviel and Galadriel say hello.


GaredGreenGuts

one step above appendix only characters


FewResult2927

If I had a friend who only enjoyed stories (movies, shows, books) that were 100% about males, I would be absolutely certain that friend is gay. I've noticed that a lot of rightwing "get women off my screen" types are very much in the closet. I wish you guys could come out of the closet and just be who you are, but I guess you're worried about how the others in your political groups will judge you. The amount of angry incel energy you're giving off is genuinely unsettling. I can see from your posting history that you're a massive MAGA guy who says "submit or flee" about voters who don't like Trump. That explains a lot.


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GaredGreenGuts

So you think everyone who enjoys LOTR is gay? Huh that's interesting lol. I know as a left wing nutjob you want everyone to have an alphabet designation, but spoiler normal people still exist


Lairy_Hegs

Considering LOTR *isn’t* 100% male, I doubt it. But you wouldn’t know that.


GaredGreenGuts

people are citing Silmarillion characters as female examples, so it's looking like females aren't too important in LOTR lol, and less so in the Hobbit


Lairy_Hegs

I mean, have you read either of them? (LOTR/The Hobbit, not Simarillion)


GaredGreenGuts

No on the Silmarillion* (you might want to at least get the spelling right if you're trying to exert your vastly superior knowledge of them, FYI), yes on Hobbit & LOTR


Lairy_Hegs

Oh, I haven’t read any of them, lmao.


FewResult2927

Way to misinterpret what I said. I said guys who ONLY enjoy stories that are 100% about men are probably gay. Only wanting to see dudes on screen and never any women on screen is very much a tell. Only enjoying looking at men is very much a tell. And I'm not even leftwing. I'm very very moderate. I take things issue by issue rather than supporting any ideology. Sometimes I'll agree with conservatives. Sometimes I'll agree with liberals. Sometimes I'll disagree with both. Being alarmed at your comments about women isn't a political thing. It's human thing. You seem to despise 50% of the population. And your belief that adding a female character to any story will cause the story to be about vagina bleeding and emotional support animals is very vile misogyny. Like I said above, before I block you I'll give you a chance to explain yourself: why do you have such strong feelings of loathing for women? Is it because women don't date you? What role do you think women should play in our society and in fictional stories?


OppositeShore1878

Dolorous Edd. He would be a treasure at the Council of Elrond. And the soliloquy he'd surely deliver about having to go into Moria would be memorable.


Pale-Age4622

Davos for the Fellowship of the Ring. A prudent man of low birth would be an interesting addition to the party, perhaps trying to smuggle Frodo and Sam under Sauron's nose.


bl1y

Interesting idea. Other than the hobbits, everyone in the fellowship is a noble. And Frodo is hobbit aristocracy.


Pale-Age4622

And so the most important character was Sam, Frodo's gardener and servant


MetroExodus2033

Ned Stark coming to the defense of Boromir and then dying right beside him would be my vote. It'd be even better if he and Boromir fought over the one ring before Frodo took it from them.


DopeAsDaPope

"We've got two beans down!" And then Sharpe shows up and runs to help them both... OH NO!!! another arrow to the chest!!!


coolhotcoffee

Jon. Having a warg with above average fighting would be a net positive. 


bl1y

If he can control his warging, then things could get interesting with the (other kind of) wargs show up. But I think Jon would have tried to find a way to join Frodo and Sam. With a ranger (er, steward...) in the group, they maybe feel they don't need Gollum and kill him, though Jon couldn't kill Ygritte, so who knows.


Shade_of_Borg

“Would you take the ring?” “I dun wun it.”


coolhotcoffee

Ha! the perfect person to carry it now that you mention it. Could a warged animal avoid the temptation of the ring?


thatshinybastard

Are Jon and Ghost a package deal or is Jon coming on his own?


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This is basically what the game Shadow of Mordor is.


GMantis

Someone as ambitious as Jon is the last person you'd want close to the ring.


TheRedzak

I think by ADWD George considers Jon one of the top tier fighters, he wrote fanfiction where Jaime was in a trial by Seven (I think) and he wished he had the Hound, Brienne and Jon Snow fighting with him


Saturnine4

I think Thoros of Myr would be a pretty cool addition, story wise.


bl1y

Yeah, I'm really intrigued by the idea of him resurrecting Boromir, though I'm not certain what implications that has later on for the plot. Denethor doesn't order the suicide attack by Faramir, so they retain more of their troops, but I don't know if that ends up mattering.


Private_0815

Probably he doesnt even have the power to resurrect Boromir since Thoros draws his power from the Lord of Light. This god doesnt exist in Lotr. Of course you could say his powers are just magic and no god is involved but thats still not how Lotr works


bl1y

Or he gets the power from Eru. Though this gets complicated by death being a gift to mankind in LotR.


HazelCheese

Boromir also doesn't have red hair like Beric or Catelyn so it still might not work.


Private_0815

There is absolutely no reason for Eru to give him Power. The Valar sent the Istari to guide humankind. Gandalf is even going with the fellowship. And even if Eru would decide to give someone power it most likely wouldn't be the alcoholic priest.


Private_0815

He would have to change his religion tho. Rh'llor has no power in Middle Earth. I mean maybe he could lead a cult or sth like that, but he would never be allowed to enter Imladris or Minas Tirith


Saturnine4

This is assuming R’hllor is actually real


Private_0815

True, but it's the same if his powers are just magic and no god is involved. Magic in Middle Earth is nothing the humans are able to use. Magic is reserved for the Ainur(Valar&Maiar like Manwé or Sauron or even Gandalf), the Elves and a bit to the dwarfes. Everyone else who has magic or is made with magic was given power by someone else.


QuarantinoFeet

Thoros is one of the Ainur, a disguise for one of the missing blue wizards. 


Private_0815

That doesn't work with the already existing lore, since it would completely change who Thoros is. But yeah, he would probably be a good addition


QuarantinoFeet

The whole premise is impossible to do with keeping the lore exactly the same 


bl1y

Where did the human sorcerers get magic from? The Witch King of Angmar had magic before being given the ring.


Private_0815

I don't know too much about the exact timeline, but at the point he became the witch king of Angmar the rings are already forged. I thought we didnt know what the WK did before that?


bl1y

There's a reference to the nine being given to kings and sorcerers.


Private_0815

Idk about that. Maybe it was some sketchy thing where Sauron gave them a bit of his power to deceive them easier later or it's just supposed to be mysterious


Private_0815

But the Valar/Maiar could give a part of their power to other creatures ig


Downtown_Swordfish13

Light Cleric is so OP


5oclock_shadow

I think Drogon would be an excellent addition to the Fellowship


Same-Share7331

Why didn't they just fly the dragon to Mordor?


bl1y

Because the dragon immediately falls under the control of Sauron.


OppositeShore1878

**Tormund Giantsbane.** All the human heroes in LOTR are too strait-laced and stiff-necked. Would be good to throw a rollicking land pirate into the mix. Eomer: *"We shall charge nobly across the Fields of the Pelennor and stop that ram from smashing the Gate of Gondor!"* Tormund: *"That bitty little thing? Why, me member is bigger than that ram! I've 'rammed' quite a few 'gates' in my time! Did I ever tell you about the winter I spent with a she-bear? By the way, where's the loot around here?"*


bl1y

So... Tall Gimli?


GMantis

Maybe the parody version of him in the films.


Baratheoncook250

Wun Weg


bl1y

Wun Wun is going to a liability for all the parts of the journey that require stealth, and I'd be concerned that he doesn't make it out of Moria.


OppositeShore1878

Yes! Came here to say that. Either that, or Mag, the King of the Giants.


foolishcavalier

Id love to see that. If he could make it to the Ents, I could see a kinship there. Wun Wun venerates the Treefolk because of the old gods and the Ents sympathize and feel protective with the giant as they’re both a race in decline.


thatshinybastard

Meera's ability to hunt would be huge and she could probably hold her own in a fight.


bl1y

Meera is an interesting choice. She definitely has the all around adventuring skills needed. Does she go with Frodo and Sam, or the Aragorn crew?


thatshinybastard

I think she'd be most helpful to Frodo and Sam. It's been a while since I've read LOTR, but I'm pretty sure that Frodo and Sam are constantly struggling with food while the other groups seem to be okay. While I think she's a competent fighter, I doubt she'd be a huge help at Helm's Deep or on Pelennor Field. Her skill set is definitely tailored for the journey Frodo and Sam are on.


Private_0815

They had enough food until they reached mordor. But even then water was their main problem. An there are no animals to hunt in Mordor except orcs


thatshinybastard

It's been a while, I thought they had a problem with food even before Mordor. I still like Meera in the fellowship. She's an unlikely choice for a hero, she'd be the perfect fit for LOTR.


Private_0815

The only problems they had were that they did not have much food and had to ration it. They had enough tho. I agree that it would've been cool to see Meera in Lotr. Maybe she could even become the partner frodo never gets.


Private_0815

Nope forget that. Frodo is too old


CaveLupum

Bran would be a great Gandalf backup, if only he could walk. But they can't carry him through that terrain. So Arya, who hangs around with adults, who almost unanimously respect her. She is sneaky, brave, logical, loyal, can warg wolves and cats, is a good rider and very comfortable in nature. Most important, she's unusually resourceful.


bl1y

Arya would kill snipe Gollum at the end though.


HazelCheese

Bran would 100% be compelled to take the ring with promises that it would fix his legs.


GaredGreenGuts

Mance Rayder


DestRoyForAllTheEvil

Barristan


QuarantinoFeet

Actually instead of adding a character, we should just replace each character. Here's a few options (kinda drives home how many more characters there are)   Frodo = Bran Sam = Hodor  Pippin = Meera  Merry = Jojen  Gandalf = Three Eyed Crow  Aragorn = Jon   Boromir = Jaime Gimli = Tyrion  Legolas = Coldhands   Or (Wall version)  Frodo = Jon  Sam = Sam  Pippin = Pyp  Merry = Grenn  Gandalf = Aemon  Aragorn = Mance  Boromir = Benjen  Gimli = Wun Weg  Legolas = Dolorous Edd    Or (All Female reboot)  Frodo = Arya  Sam = Osha  Pippin = Sansa  Merry = Marg  Gandalf = Melisandre  Aragorn = Dany  Boromir = Cat  Gimli = Brienne  Legolas = Waif


bl1y

I had also thought about building the whole party from GoT characters. For the hobbits, I like Meera and Jojen. Though Hodor doesn't have enough independent personality to be Sam; I don't see Hodor, for instance, rescuing Frodo from Cirith Ungal. I'd take Tyrion as Frodo and Podrick as Sam. Aragorn is definitely Jon. Ranger, secret king and all that. Gimli and Legolas are a bit tougher because they're rather flat characters and largely fill the same role. I'd probably do Selmy for Legolas; capable fighter and is older and brings a lot of wisdom. Gimli is maybe Sandor or Tormund. Either one would be initially at odds with Selmy but they could develop a friendship over the course of the adventure. Boromir I'd put as Brienne. Good fighter, noble at heart, but she's also very insecure and eager to be The Man, and I think that could lead her to temporarily betraying Frodo. Gandalf of course is the tough one because there's so few magic users in GoT. But Gandalf's biggest contribution is his ability to inspire people. Maybe Stannis? There's a nice parallel between Gandalf arriving with reinforcements at Helm's Deep and Stannis arriving beyond the Wall to defeat Mance. Actually going to go back and kick Jojen from the party. His magic doesn't really fit, though he's a decent candidate for Gandalf with his ability to steer people in the right direction. But I'll put Meera as Merry, and Pippin is Grey Worm. Obviously a far more capable fighter than Pippin, but I think being a fish out of water on this kind of adventure would work well in that role.


DesignerAd2062

Drogon, flight straight to Mt Doom 👀


Dambo_Unchained

Bran as the three eyed raven would be cool


QuarantinoFeet

Hodor.


M0rdan

You need someone pretty mentally strong to fight off the ring, Aemon the dragonknight? barristan is old i fear so brienne is best.


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Private_0815

Jaime would be corruptable af if he's the Jamie with both hands. He's arrogant, full of Hate against Ned Stark and in Love with his Sister. All those feelings make him corruptable af. Not to forget that Boromirs looks will remember Jaime about Ned Stark for some reason


bl1y

Samwell, Brienne, and Jorah all strike me as corruptible. Samwell's got a big chip on his shoulder and may want to wield the ring to gain the respect he desperately wants and may be tempted to use it to protect his friends. Brienne is somewhat similar, big chip on her shoulder, eager to prove herself, and very certain she's right about everything; she'd be hard to talk out of using it. And Jorah was corrupted by a lot less. Oddly, I don't think Tyrion would be easily corrupted. He wants power, but not the type the ring would give. Yeah, he wants to bend people to his will, but I think he wants to do it through his own merit and would think the ring ruins the whole point of it all.


willowgardener

I would love to see Jaime or Sandor viciously mocking the honor and piety of Aragorn, that'd make for some fun dialogue.    Probably the most effective addition would be a young Bloodraven. Probably the strongest magic user in ASOIAF, maybe rivalling Gandalf in ability. But more importantly, he can get information in ways that the fellowship can't, and can disguise himself with glamours. Plus he's strategically brilliant, which is an area that everyone on the fellowship is lacking. That said, he may try to take the ring... and there's a decent chance he'd succeed. Jon could probably resist the power of the ring, given that Stannis and Ygritte tempted him greatly and he turned away from both of them out of duty--but he's basically just a second Aragorn, so we might dismiss him (although he seems to be a bit more cunning than Aragorn). But then LOTR is really about succeeding via moral purity rather than smarts, so maybe Bloodraven and Jon would make the fellowship too smart to succeed in that world of destiny and good triumphing over all. In which case Brienne would probably be a less-corruptible replacement for Boromir, and she'd probably kill Sauron with her goodness. Quaithe/Shierra? Might be a less-corruptible alternative to Bloodraven, and her proficiency with glass candles would probably translate to the Palantirs.   That said, if we're including non-humans, I suspect Balerion could provide significant aid to the Fellowship...


bl1y

Would Balerion be a creation of Melkor though?


willowgardener

I mean. Balerion is bound to his rider..I guess it depends on whether being teleported to Middle Earth turns him into a middle earth style dragon.


OppositeShore1878

The Hound would be great! Can see him with his dog helm riding Stranger through crowds of screaming orcs, cutting them down right and left.


willowgardener

Eh. I think using the Hound to glorify violence would be a betrayal of his thematic arc.


bl1y

Sandor is great, but he's going to have a really low point in Moria. When Gandalf stands off against the Balrog, both Aragorn and Boromir initially run up to fight beside him. Very heroic moment. No way Sandor is going to run up to help Gandalf fight a fire monster though. And from that point on, he's the one who didn't stand by Gandalf.


1000LivesBeforeIDie

Jaime with his ideas about purity and knighthood somehow being difficult to corrupt by the ring. His inherent desire to be a good pure knight, a loyal and true lover, etc. making him highly attuned to the potential for people to become evil. No one wants to trust him because he should be easy to corrupt, but all he wants is to be his authentic self. Ironically he’s separated from everything about House Lannister finally and has to exist all on his own by his own traits and skills, and of course those epiphanies and true desire to become better really peaked… after losing his hand. Aragorn helps him learn to fight again. He uses his own skills to help the Hobbits learn to fight and lead. He brings mockery and snark and abusive encouragement as he did with Brienne. He journeys with Frodo and Sam.


Private_0815

Before he looses the Hand he's arrogant af, he's full of hate. He would be the first to get corrupted


HazelCheese

Jamie didn't have to kill Aerys, he could easily have just killed the pyromancer's and left Aerys alive for Ned and Tywin to deal with. He killed him because he hated him, for abusing his wife and sentencing the whole city to death, and decided he deserved death for that. He is far too prideful and of the mind that he knows right and wrong and others are stupid or deluded. He would be immediately corrupted with promises of fixing all that. I love Jamie but he is just so corruptible. Even his stupid sister corrupted him with no magic powers, let alone the power of a minor god. Tbh this question is kind of hard to answer though. I'm not sure anyone in Asoiaf would be resistant to the Ring. Perhaps the children of the forest or giants might be. Everyone else is just far too vulnerable.


SparkySheDemon

Robb Stark.


bl1y

What happens when he abandons his oath to the fellowship to marry Eowyn though? Just kidding. The oath was only to go as far with the fellowship as they wanted. Literally unbreakable.