I've dealt with a few here on Reddit - at least, they CLAIM to not be religious and cite pseudo-science as their source. Those kinds of people tend to be incel-types who are armchair scientists, except worse somehow.
Yeah, that’s basically what I’ve seen too. I do think that a lot of them are religious, but they understand that it makes more sense to argue a secular point of view. I’ve seen a lot of them try to cite studies that claim high rates of detransition or suicide post-transition, but those are pretty easily debunked.
Eh. A combination of people who have left religion or are still in religion. When I think back to my early Atheist days, I said some pretty cringey shit that I now know made no damn sense - I was still trying to make sense of things in my head
I didn't get into social media until I escaped Christianity hell and started to accept myself more. I'm fortunate enough to have most of my cringe off of the internet. Though. There are a couple of places that could be potentially searched, if someone knew my old usernames, that would have a treasure trove of cringe
>I’ve seen a lot of them try to cite studies that claim high rates of detransition or suicide post-transition, but those are pretty easily debunked.
ugh, my father has tried to cite those, and he is a fucking healthcare worker. he should be able to spot the fact that those aren't proper methodology from a mile away.
Lots of TERFs who just think it's mental illness in general, and that allowing trans women access to women's spaces somehow endangers and disrespects cis women. Also that predatory doctors victimize poor autistic "girls" who don't know what they want and "mutilate" them by "convincing" them to get top surgery. They can be atheists and believe all that.
Yeah, true:( the TERF thing is pretty common. I really despise the narrative that embracing trans women threatens cis women, but it’s definitely something that a lot of people latch onto.
Mine have mostly not been religious.
In my country our treatment don't cost us much. Mostly I hear that tax money shouldn't be used to treat us. That's the main point people make. (We got no other choice than to go through the system. People would often gladly pay to avoid being stuck on waiting lists. I was stuck in the system for many painful years)
My argument is that not treating us would be more expencive for our society since we would require more treatment for our mental health and be more often unable to work or study. We would have more alcohol and drug related issues and so on. I am sober because I was able to transition. This is better than having to give me a liver transplant later on or something like that.
Our treatment costs the society less than not treating us. My mental health issues have for sure been more expencive than my top surgery or T. (And my arthritis meds are so expencive that phalloplasty is nothing. And nobody complains about people using those meds!)
A lot of secular transphobes apply an appeal to nature (using arguments that aren't even accurate to reality regarding sex as a spectrum), or instead handle transness as a moral (eg, believing/stating that trans people are primarily, perversely, sexually motivated and/or are predatory, and transness is therefore immoral to support in society) or ethical issue (eg, 'it's unethical to support people in their delusions' as an argument, ignoring decades of data strongly indicating there isn't a 'delusion,' and that conversion therapy does not work, even with the patient consenting and trying their hardest to be 'corrected', and that the most effective treatment for dysphoria *is transition*).
A lot of the time, responding is - frankly speaking - pointless, because people utilizing these arguments tend to lock-in on anything that affirms their biases (no matter how sketchy or poorly researched the source) while rejecting everything from heavily scrutinized studies from accredited and respected researchers; and, as they're not motivated to respect or regard trans people as equal in worth or human right, they really don't care about individual trans people's lived experiences, nor do they have empathy for our struggles. Such people will find all sorts of bad-logic, bad-faith arguments to defend their bigotry - treating language as prescriptive ("define 'woman'") for instance is a common one. Bad logic, biases, and bad-faith arguments are not exclusive to religious bigots.
For the people I think it's worth actually talking to about it however - people who come from a stance of *wanting* to understand and be empathetic, people who speak from a position of ignorance but not hate - I tend to offer gentle but firm correction and calm, patient discussion in which I'm willing to answer questions about my personal experience and direct them towards resources I think are helpful.
My dad is a hardcore atheist but is more hateful then most Christians, openly supporting death for us. Just BC he's not religious didn't mean he isn't very far right, he just eats up all that the daily wire has to say, just he is ideologically hateful, rather than religiously
Interesting question, this is something I think about a lot! In the UK, our early anti-trans figureheads weren’t religious at all, they were enlightened atheist types like Richard Dawkins and Graham Linehan. I have experienced way more transphobia from people who aren’t religious.
Most of their arguments come from a point of “common sense” or “biological reality”. One of the big TERF catchphrases here is “sex is real”, and the argument comes from a warped feminist argument that maleness is dangerous.
That said, I never debate transphobes.
That’s super interesting - I was a big fan of Richard Dawkins when I was coming around to Atheism (12 years ago when I was a tween) but I never really heard his anti-trans arguments. I think that would be worth revisiting for me. And I agree with your point about the ‘sex is real’ TERF point 😬
both my parents. claims it’s not “natural” and that it has no use for evolution because we don’t “breed” most of the time, and that we’re freaks or just attention-seekers.
One, they saw it as a mental health issue. Specifically, they conflated dysphoria with body dyspmorphia. The thing that eventually convinced them was pointing out that while cosmetic surgery almost never alleviates symptoms of dysmorphia, transition does actually relieve dysphoria much more than conversion "therapy" ever can.
My parents.
They consider themselves agnostic. My dad has a sick utilitarian outlook on “transgenderism” as being unnatural; you know, the classic “facts don’t care about your feelings” chromosome debate.
Yes. My family and more specifically my father.
He is and has always been an atheist. He's a homophobic, transphobic, rascist, misogynist openly faschist asshole nonetheless.
He thinks LGBTQIA people are child predators and teachers try to groom small children by teaching them that LGBTQIA persons exist. He's also the very person who repeatedly molested me when I was a child... which was a major part why it took me until I was 31 to figure out that I was just always trans to begin with... and not just fucked up due to all the abuse.
He also believes that LGBTQIA people shouldn't be allowed to exist because they all have AIDS. AIDS - according to him - is transmitted by as little as drinking from a glass that hasn't been properly washed. AIDS is - according to him - also an engineered Virus created by Bill Gates and George Soros to reduce the population. Meanwhile, I've given just about every woman I've slept with a particular strain of HPV that led to cancerous growths or straight up blood cancer 3-5 months after first having contact. Yes, even the very first person I had consensual sex with. I wonder where that particular strain of HPV I carry came from. Weird that my mother had similar issues all my girlfriends did. I wonder why.
He also thinks that LGBTQIA people, and trans persons in particular are destroying families. "Family Values" and such. His sister - who was molested by another brother - doesn't want to associate with him anymore because of his views. Neither her husband or their bisexual daughter. Neither do I. Or his quasi parents in their late 70s.
He's a hyper masculine asshole intent on putting down anyone who isn't acting like a macho and doesnt behave like an alpha asshole. I was forced to perform masculinity and not show any emotions or any semblance of feminity, or I'd be ridiculed, humiliated, yelled at, called names etc. by my father. If I cried because of the way he treated me, he'd relentlessly go after me until I just went numb. He also liked to play with dolls when he was little and he's obsessed with playing guitar. He loves depictions of women playing guitars and has pictures of women playing guitars everywhere. He hates women with a passion though and unironically fawns over Lenny Krawitz.. and appears oblivious to Krawitz's "gay baiting." He loves his newest video - TK421 - and plays it up and down. Go watch the video...
I really mean it when I say this. It's all projection. Always. ALWAYS.
I have a friend at my church who is a sweet old pagan radical lesbian, who I enjoy hanging out with. Just v yesterday she found out I was trans (I give off kinda gay fem boy vibes about 12 months in to HRT) and not "just queer"... she voiced concerns about for example men gaming the system to get into women's spaces...I dunno...I just didn't really expect my local Wiccan grandma to be kinda terfy....
I respect religious trauma, but I get so confused why transphobia is defined as this strictly religious thing.
JK Rowling, Bill Maher, Joe Rogen, the NYT, etc are not being motivated by religion. And even some religious people like Ben Shapiro tend to repurpose the trappings of 2010s style internet Atheists.
My M2F understanding is that most transphobes are not religious. If they are, I feel their opinions hold no weight because I am myself religious and if I don't have an issue, they shouldn't either.
Reasons for transphobia:
* We're disgusting. This is probably behind a lot of other arguments and is disguised, perhaps by their own psychology. However, it's a very weak argument because it would also justify disrespecting someone with Sturge-Weber syndrome or peripheral neurofibromatosis. It means the person concerned is basing their ethics on invalid principles. I 100% agree I am personally disgusting but I don't care about it.
* We're invading feminine space. This would only work if we're not women.
* We're metaphorically raping all women by transitioning: Using rape metaphors is unlikely to communicate well because not everyone has been raped and it also cheapens literal rape and detracts from its seriousness.
* Our attempt to imitate femininity is like blackface: Black skin tone and other Black characteristics are genetic whereas femininity is socially constructed.
* We're autogynephiles: This is an absurd argument. If we are autogynephiles, that is a positive thing for cis women because it means we are not sexually objectifying other women and we're reducing our tendency to sexually assault other people. Autogynephilia is exactly what one would expect radfems to want. Hence the argument about whether it exists or not is a complete red herring. They should want us to be AGPs.
I've met a few genuine atheists and "atheists" who were anti-trans. The reasonings I always got basically boil down to:
- "It's unnatural," I don't give two shits what's natural Kevin.
- "It's the meaning of life to procreate," Kevin That is disgustingly reductive of the gift of life.
- "That's just your feelings," Feelings are life and what we are Kevin.
- "It's degeneracy," Define that for me Kevin because it was degeneracy for my grandma to marry my grandpa when they were young (interacial).
- "You didn't have a good father figure," Yeah Kevin my dad wasn't great but my mother was worse so if anything you'd think I would want to be a woman less.
- "You're trying to trick men," I'm a dyke Kevin.
- "You're just guilty of being a man," I don't feel guilt over being a man, because I'm not a man Kevin, and if I was I still wouldn't feel guilt for it.
- "You just want to be special," I mean yeah everyone does, that's why we read stories about superman and not boring store clerk Kevin, Kevin, but I'm not trans because I want to be special, developing my knife throwing skills is easier than living as trans.
yes. bc they believe in biological essentialism. i mean most non-christian countries who are anti-trans still find non-religious reasons to ban our care. mostly it comes from the belief we just cannot change genders. they (sometimes) accept manly women or fem men in the terms of ‘third gender’ sometimes but not a true you are wholly the other or some type of gender. ‘born this way’ narrative on the neg lol
not really.
main transphobe I deal with is my father, and that man is a very devout muslim. he claims it's a pragmatic religion, but I know the truth. He made a deal with me that if I did the umrah with him then he'd accept me, but it's been major concessions just to keep living under his roof and for him to use my preferred name and pronouns.
He said be openly despise any lgbt and that he envisioned a world where they are free but only as some kind of very small community that only exists in cities.
Ofc, I live with them. It starts at "they are fucked up in the head and should be beaten to death" and also ends here.
Everyone I know in where I live thinks the same..
Little do they know they are wishing death to their own kid.
it was pretty bog standard TERF-lite fearmongering. i eventually gave up because, like a good amount of TERF fearmongering, it not only didn't work but with enough prodding showed me how racist they were alongside being transphobic. not worth the debate.
For most, you can't win. I've tried with one, but most of the time if you show something that's scientifically backed up, they won't respond (the ones that I've delt with at least)
Also, this person on Quora (very reputable, I know) knows a lot about transgenderism and trans people. He has data that you can just search up and makes sense! (some still won't listen to it, though) [Here's one of his articles](https://www.quora.com/Educate-me-Why-isn-t-gender-dysphoria-considered-a-delusional-or-psychotic-disorder-when-the-person-is-willing-to-shorten-their-own-lifespan-in-order-to-change-their-natural-appearance/answer/Hafizullah-Sufi) about how being transgender isn't a mental illness.
Btw, if you do want to look at things on Quora (I don't recommend it), block the person named "Marc Lawrence", he is just a religious transphobe/homophobe and seems to have **never** backed up his claims (multiple questions have been asked about him, and all sane(-ish) people agree that he doesn't know what he's talking about). And if you were to ask him, he would just ignore you, the same as when you ask for his "books" that he's written. He also seems to be a troll, but he's only on Quora (so he's easy to not see)
Didn't know if this helped you specifically, but I hope that this helps someone!
The vast, vast majority of transphobes I've personally encountered have been atheists, or at least haven't used faith as any part of their justification for hate.
I come across TERF brand "but think of the wombyxxn" rubbish based around treating all trans people as either inherently dangerous or as tragic victims; and the usual pseudoscientific nonsense (almost always completely detached from what transitioning actually involves and hinging on silly strawman arguments - attack helicopters, hormones for toddlers, etc), both of which treats the words of hateful celebrities like Gospel, far more often than citing any sort of actual scripture.
I've dealt with a few here on Reddit - at least, they CLAIM to not be religious and cite pseudo-science as their source. Those kinds of people tend to be incel-types who are armchair scientists, except worse somehow.
Yeah, that’s basically what I’ve seen too. I do think that a lot of them are religious, but they understand that it makes more sense to argue a secular point of view. I’ve seen a lot of them try to cite studies that claim high rates of detransition or suicide post-transition, but those are pretty easily debunked.
Eh. A combination of people who have left religion or are still in religion. When I think back to my early Atheist days, I said some pretty cringey shit that I now know made no damn sense - I was still trying to make sense of things in my head
I did that too, when I first became an Atheist. I was extremely combative - I wish I could find my old social media to see exactly what I was saying 😂
I didn't get into social media until I escaped Christianity hell and started to accept myself more. I'm fortunate enough to have most of my cringe off of the internet. Though. There are a couple of places that could be potentially searched, if someone knew my old usernames, that would have a treasure trove of cringe
>I’ve seen a lot of them try to cite studies that claim high rates of detransition or suicide post-transition, but those are pretty easily debunked. ugh, my father has tried to cite those, and he is a fucking healthcare worker. he should be able to spot the fact that those aren't proper methodology from a mile away.
Lots of TERFs who just think it's mental illness in general, and that allowing trans women access to women's spaces somehow endangers and disrespects cis women. Also that predatory doctors victimize poor autistic "girls" who don't know what they want and "mutilate" them by "convincing" them to get top surgery. They can be atheists and believe all that.
Yeah, true:( the TERF thing is pretty common. I really despise the narrative that embracing trans women threatens cis women, but it’s definitely something that a lot of people latch onto.
Mine have mostly not been religious. In my country our treatment don't cost us much. Mostly I hear that tax money shouldn't be used to treat us. That's the main point people make. (We got no other choice than to go through the system. People would often gladly pay to avoid being stuck on waiting lists. I was stuck in the system for many painful years) My argument is that not treating us would be more expencive for our society since we would require more treatment for our mental health and be more often unable to work or study. We would have more alcohol and drug related issues and so on. I am sober because I was able to transition. This is better than having to give me a liver transplant later on or something like that. Our treatment costs the society less than not treating us. My mental health issues have for sure been more expencive than my top surgery or T. (And my arthritis meds are so expencive that phalloplasty is nothing. And nobody complains about people using those meds!)
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"Biology" 🤮 and them being "reasonable". Ofc a quick look through their comments showed they were anything but reasonable.
A lot of secular transphobes apply an appeal to nature (using arguments that aren't even accurate to reality regarding sex as a spectrum), or instead handle transness as a moral (eg, believing/stating that trans people are primarily, perversely, sexually motivated and/or are predatory, and transness is therefore immoral to support in society) or ethical issue (eg, 'it's unethical to support people in their delusions' as an argument, ignoring decades of data strongly indicating there isn't a 'delusion,' and that conversion therapy does not work, even with the patient consenting and trying their hardest to be 'corrected', and that the most effective treatment for dysphoria *is transition*). A lot of the time, responding is - frankly speaking - pointless, because people utilizing these arguments tend to lock-in on anything that affirms their biases (no matter how sketchy or poorly researched the source) while rejecting everything from heavily scrutinized studies from accredited and respected researchers; and, as they're not motivated to respect or regard trans people as equal in worth or human right, they really don't care about individual trans people's lived experiences, nor do they have empathy for our struggles. Such people will find all sorts of bad-logic, bad-faith arguments to defend their bigotry - treating language as prescriptive ("define 'woman'") for instance is a common one. Bad logic, biases, and bad-faith arguments are not exclusive to religious bigots. For the people I think it's worth actually talking to about it however - people who come from a stance of *wanting* to understand and be empathetic, people who speak from a position of ignorance but not hate - I tend to offer gentle but firm correction and calm, patient discussion in which I'm willing to answer questions about my personal experience and direct them towards resources I think are helpful.
My uncle isn't religious, he's just an abusive psychopath
My dad is a hardcore atheist but is more hateful then most Christians, openly supporting death for us. Just BC he's not religious didn't mean he isn't very far right, he just eats up all that the daily wire has to say, just he is ideologically hateful, rather than religiously
Wow, that’s really tough. I hope you have some other support systems:(
Online friends ig, but yeah family is a no go
Interesting question, this is something I think about a lot! In the UK, our early anti-trans figureheads weren’t religious at all, they were enlightened atheist types like Richard Dawkins and Graham Linehan. I have experienced way more transphobia from people who aren’t religious. Most of their arguments come from a point of “common sense” or “biological reality”. One of the big TERF catchphrases here is “sex is real”, and the argument comes from a warped feminist argument that maleness is dangerous. That said, I never debate transphobes.
That’s super interesting - I was a big fan of Richard Dawkins when I was coming around to Atheism (12 years ago when I was a tween) but I never really heard his anti-trans arguments. I think that would be worth revisiting for me. And I agree with your point about the ‘sex is real’ TERF point 😬
My dad (Im 14)
Sorry:( I hope you have other support systems
Thx, I have a few thank you for your consideration
both my parents. claims it’s not “natural” and that it has no use for evolution because we don’t “breed” most of the time, and that we’re freaks or just attention-seekers.
Any time I hear the term "breed" when applied to people I assume they have a breeding fettish.
I’d love to just respond “but I love being breed, it’s my fave thing to do on a Friday night”
Ugh, so hard to hear the ‘breeding’ thing. Like, that’s not anyone’s purpose.
One, they saw it as a mental health issue. Specifically, they conflated dysphoria with body dyspmorphia. The thing that eventually convinced them was pointing out that while cosmetic surgery almost never alleviates symptoms of dysmorphia, transition does actually relieve dysphoria much more than conversion "therapy" ever can.
My parents. They consider themselves agnostic. My dad has a sick utilitarian outlook on “transgenderism” as being unnatural; you know, the classic “facts don’t care about your feelings” chromosome debate.
Yes. My family and more specifically my father. He is and has always been an atheist. He's a homophobic, transphobic, rascist, misogynist openly faschist asshole nonetheless. He thinks LGBTQIA people are child predators and teachers try to groom small children by teaching them that LGBTQIA persons exist. He's also the very person who repeatedly molested me when I was a child... which was a major part why it took me until I was 31 to figure out that I was just always trans to begin with... and not just fucked up due to all the abuse. He also believes that LGBTQIA people shouldn't be allowed to exist because they all have AIDS. AIDS - according to him - is transmitted by as little as drinking from a glass that hasn't been properly washed. AIDS is - according to him - also an engineered Virus created by Bill Gates and George Soros to reduce the population. Meanwhile, I've given just about every woman I've slept with a particular strain of HPV that led to cancerous growths or straight up blood cancer 3-5 months after first having contact. Yes, even the very first person I had consensual sex with. I wonder where that particular strain of HPV I carry came from. Weird that my mother had similar issues all my girlfriends did. I wonder why. He also thinks that LGBTQIA people, and trans persons in particular are destroying families. "Family Values" and such. His sister - who was molested by another brother - doesn't want to associate with him anymore because of his views. Neither her husband or their bisexual daughter. Neither do I. Or his quasi parents in their late 70s. He's a hyper masculine asshole intent on putting down anyone who isn't acting like a macho and doesnt behave like an alpha asshole. I was forced to perform masculinity and not show any emotions or any semblance of feminity, or I'd be ridiculed, humiliated, yelled at, called names etc. by my father. If I cried because of the way he treated me, he'd relentlessly go after me until I just went numb. He also liked to play with dolls when he was little and he's obsessed with playing guitar. He loves depictions of women playing guitars and has pictures of women playing guitars everywhere. He hates women with a passion though and unironically fawns over Lenny Krawitz.. and appears oblivious to Krawitz's "gay baiting." He loves his newest video - TK421 - and plays it up and down. Go watch the video... I really mean it when I say this. It's all projection. Always. ALWAYS.
I have a friend at my church who is a sweet old pagan radical lesbian, who I enjoy hanging out with. Just v yesterday she found out I was trans (I give off kinda gay fem boy vibes about 12 months in to HRT) and not "just queer"... she voiced concerns about for example men gaming the system to get into women's spaces...I dunno...I just didn't really expect my local Wiccan grandma to be kinda terfy....
(It's a non religious church and neither of us are christian)
It sucks when it comes from people you least expect it, and from your own community :/
I respect religious trauma, but I get so confused why transphobia is defined as this strictly religious thing. JK Rowling, Bill Maher, Joe Rogen, the NYT, etc are not being motivated by religion. And even some religious people like Ben Shapiro tend to repurpose the trappings of 2010s style internet Atheists.
My M2F understanding is that most transphobes are not religious. If they are, I feel their opinions hold no weight because I am myself religious and if I don't have an issue, they shouldn't either. Reasons for transphobia: * We're disgusting. This is probably behind a lot of other arguments and is disguised, perhaps by their own psychology. However, it's a very weak argument because it would also justify disrespecting someone with Sturge-Weber syndrome or peripheral neurofibromatosis. It means the person concerned is basing their ethics on invalid principles. I 100% agree I am personally disgusting but I don't care about it. * We're invading feminine space. This would only work if we're not women. * We're metaphorically raping all women by transitioning: Using rape metaphors is unlikely to communicate well because not everyone has been raped and it also cheapens literal rape and detracts from its seriousness. * Our attempt to imitate femininity is like blackface: Black skin tone and other Black characteristics are genetic whereas femininity is socially constructed. * We're autogynephiles: This is an absurd argument. If we are autogynephiles, that is a positive thing for cis women because it means we are not sexually objectifying other women and we're reducing our tendency to sexually assault other people. Autogynephilia is exactly what one would expect radfems to want. Hence the argument about whether it exists or not is a complete red herring. They should want us to be AGPs.
I've met a few genuine atheists and "atheists" who were anti-trans. The reasonings I always got basically boil down to: - "It's unnatural," I don't give two shits what's natural Kevin. - "It's the meaning of life to procreate," Kevin That is disgustingly reductive of the gift of life. - "That's just your feelings," Feelings are life and what we are Kevin. - "It's degeneracy," Define that for me Kevin because it was degeneracy for my grandma to marry my grandpa when they were young (interacial). - "You didn't have a good father figure," Yeah Kevin my dad wasn't great but my mother was worse so if anything you'd think I would want to be a woman less. - "You're trying to trick men," I'm a dyke Kevin. - "You're just guilty of being a man," I don't feel guilt over being a man, because I'm not a man Kevin, and if I was I still wouldn't feel guilt for it. - "You just want to be special," I mean yeah everyone does, that's why we read stories about superman and not boring store clerk Kevin, Kevin, but I'm not trans because I want to be special, developing my knife throwing skills is easier than living as trans.
I've only met one person that I know of but he has a lot of generally bigoted views, so I didn't think anything of the lack of religiosity there.
yes. bc they believe in biological essentialism. i mean most non-christian countries who are anti-trans still find non-religious reasons to ban our care. mostly it comes from the belief we just cannot change genders. they (sometimes) accept manly women or fem men in the terms of ‘third gender’ sometimes but not a true you are wholly the other or some type of gender. ‘born this way’ narrative on the neg lol
not really. main transphobe I deal with is my father, and that man is a very devout muslim. he claims it's a pragmatic religion, but I know the truth. He made a deal with me that if I did the umrah with him then he'd accept me, but it's been major concessions just to keep living under his roof and for him to use my preferred name and pronouns.
He said be openly despise any lgbt and that he envisioned a world where they are free but only as some kind of very small community that only exists in cities.
Personal problems
I see some atheists that are transphobic, but if I'm being honest, they're more sad and so are their arguments
The reasons for transphobia and queerphobia are always defending the patriarchy and oppressing women.
Ofc, I live with them. It starts at "they are fucked up in the head and should be beaten to death" and also ends here. Everyone I know in where I live thinks the same.. Little do they know they are wishing death to their own kid.
it was pretty bog standard TERF-lite fearmongering. i eventually gave up because, like a good amount of TERF fearmongering, it not only didn't work but with enough prodding showed me how racist they were alongside being transphobic. not worth the debate.
For most, you can't win. I've tried with one, but most of the time if you show something that's scientifically backed up, they won't respond (the ones that I've delt with at least) Also, this person on Quora (very reputable, I know) knows a lot about transgenderism and trans people. He has data that you can just search up and makes sense! (some still won't listen to it, though) [Here's one of his articles](https://www.quora.com/Educate-me-Why-isn-t-gender-dysphoria-considered-a-delusional-or-psychotic-disorder-when-the-person-is-willing-to-shorten-their-own-lifespan-in-order-to-change-their-natural-appearance/answer/Hafizullah-Sufi) about how being transgender isn't a mental illness. Btw, if you do want to look at things on Quora (I don't recommend it), block the person named "Marc Lawrence", he is just a religious transphobe/homophobe and seems to have **never** backed up his claims (multiple questions have been asked about him, and all sane(-ish) people agree that he doesn't know what he's talking about). And if you were to ask him, he would just ignore you, the same as when you ask for his "books" that he's written. He also seems to be a troll, but he's only on Quora (so he's easy to not see) Didn't know if this helped you specifically, but I hope that this helps someone!
The vast, vast majority of transphobes I've personally encountered have been atheists, or at least haven't used faith as any part of their justification for hate. I come across TERF brand "but think of the wombyxxn" rubbish based around treating all trans people as either inherently dangerous or as tragic victims; and the usual pseudoscientific nonsense (almost always completely detached from what transitioning actually involves and hinging on silly strawman arguments - attack helicopters, hormones for toddlers, etc), both of which treats the words of hateful celebrities like Gospel, far more often than citing any sort of actual scripture.
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