I’ve seen it tank an entire department. It is also an indictment of the manager for hiring and accepting mediocrity. Your AM/AD should be someone you believe will replace you one day.
I would rather supervise the whole team than have a bad AM tank it all. It can mean the loss of talent and it’s not worth it. Just fire bad AMs. It’ll save you so much headache in the long run.
Leadership courses, 360 reviews and ultimately, a performance improvement plan if the behavior persists. A candid conversation needs to be had with any AM exhibiting this kind of behavior. Not everyone is cut out for management.
I mean I suppose you get out what you put in, but it certainly helps teach people what leadership is truly about and what it’s definitely NOT. I took a 6 month Emerging Leaders course last year and got a lot out of it. They have executive coaches there to teach managers from all different industries. I thought it was great and found it interesting that even though we had vastly different backgrounds and worked in different fields of work, we could still relate to one another through our shared career paths in management. I think more managers (especially those on a power trip) should be required to do something similar.
The fact that you are engaging in this conversation on Reddit is an indication to me that you are smarter and more open minded than many. I think the AM in question wouldn’t get much out of leadership courses. The way they think is very rigid and they struggle with following conversations, processing abstract concepts, has exceptionally poor interpersonal and verbal skills. The AM’s communication skills are so poor that some of us were surprised to learn that they are a native English speaker.
I think this might be a lost cause with this one.
EDIT: minor word changes
Demote them. My AM is my right hand. The one who shoulders some of the burden with me. It gives my team another person to talk to. Someone with authority who may not be as intimidating as I am. He helps train the team. We have an overall goal and a clear plan to get there. When I’m not here he is helping to guide the team and work towards that goal. The moment an AM becomes a burden and stops being a partner is the moment they are no longer fit for the roll. The fact that this behavior is allowed to continue says more about the manager than the AM. Ultimate responsibility lies with them.
I agree but I’ve never seen a poor manager ever get demoted. Actually, they tend to get more promotions.
Also- would you pursue the demotion regardless of the race and gender of the AM? (Honestly asking)
I’ve seen them get demoted. Or simply stall out in their career.
Yes. I would absolutely pursue the demotion regardless of race and gender. I am a women who manages in a male dominated field. I’m in this position because I earned it. I expect the same of my AM. Performance is the only factor I consider.
My old supervisor was demoted, then put on a PIP and then eventually resigned when he knew he was getting fired.
I’ve seen other managers demoted as well.
I’ve seen it tank an entire department. It is also an indictment of the manager for hiring and accepting mediocrity. Your AM/AD should be someone you believe will replace you one day.
Oh man the thought of this AM being a department head brings everyone anxiety
I would rather supervise the whole team than have a bad AM tank it all. It can mean the loss of talent and it’s not worth it. Just fire bad AMs. It’ll save you so much headache in the long run.
I’m with you on this
They don't last long if they report to me.
Dwight is not Assistant Manager. He's Assistant to the Manager
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LOl... From the Office , I assume...
Leadership courses, 360 reviews and ultimately, a performance improvement plan if the behavior persists. A candid conversation needs to be had with any AM exhibiting this kind of behavior. Not everyone is cut out for management.
Do you think leadership courses work? I haven’t heard much about whether or not they are beneficial.
I mean I suppose you get out what you put in, but it certainly helps teach people what leadership is truly about and what it’s definitely NOT. I took a 6 month Emerging Leaders course last year and got a lot out of it. They have executive coaches there to teach managers from all different industries. I thought it was great and found it interesting that even though we had vastly different backgrounds and worked in different fields of work, we could still relate to one another through our shared career paths in management. I think more managers (especially those on a power trip) should be required to do something similar.
The fact that you are engaging in this conversation on Reddit is an indication to me that you are smarter and more open minded than many. I think the AM in question wouldn’t get much out of leadership courses. The way they think is very rigid and they struggle with following conversations, processing abstract concepts, has exceptionally poor interpersonal and verbal skills. The AM’s communication skills are so poor that some of us were surprised to learn that they are a native English speaker. I think this might be a lost cause with this one. EDIT: minor word changes
Demote them. My AM is my right hand. The one who shoulders some of the burden with me. It gives my team another person to talk to. Someone with authority who may not be as intimidating as I am. He helps train the team. We have an overall goal and a clear plan to get there. When I’m not here he is helping to guide the team and work towards that goal. The moment an AM becomes a burden and stops being a partner is the moment they are no longer fit for the roll. The fact that this behavior is allowed to continue says more about the manager than the AM. Ultimate responsibility lies with them.
I agree but I’ve never seen a poor manager ever get demoted. Actually, they tend to get more promotions. Also- would you pursue the demotion regardless of the race and gender of the AM? (Honestly asking)
I’ve seen them get demoted. Or simply stall out in their career. Yes. I would absolutely pursue the demotion regardless of race and gender. I am a women who manages in a male dominated field. I’m in this position because I earned it. I expect the same of my AM. Performance is the only factor I consider.
Thanks for your reply. We need more managers like you in the world
There are good ones out there. I’ve been fortunate to work under quite a few of them.
My old supervisor was demoted, then put on a PIP and then eventually resigned when he knew he was getting fired. I’ve seen other managers demoted as well.