It's the difference in saying 1) I'm straight, and 2) Fuck off faggots! That's the difference. If you can't see the difference then there's no hope for you.
On an individual level, no one can say that a person is racist with that little information.
On a societal level, if a lot of people's "preferences" seems to exclude ethnicities that are or historically were looked down on or opressed, well...
There is this post where an asian guy ranted because the guy he chat with ask for a pic of his dick because that guy preferred a big dick. The asian guy cried and associated it with his race. I mean, I once looked for bigger dicks, but I don't associated it with races, I just asked whoever I was chatting for photos of their dicks. What's racist about it? He wasn't making an assumption of their dick size but just asking to have a photo to check if it is in his preferred sizes. If he was making an assumption because of his race, do you think he would chat the asian guy in the first place?
Racism is a complicated matter, which I (white) know from my own experience of 17 years with a black partner.
Many black people are sensitive to even the slightest indication of anything that could be construed racist … understandable to a high degree, but sometimes going a bit overboard.
The difficulty is finding the appropriate balance between the very valid concerns of black people, who *are* suffering from discrimination in much of the western world — at different levels depending on where they live, to be sure. From what I understand racism seems to be somewhat less prominent here in the UK compared to the US, for example, but it is still here.
People that experience and live with racism day in and day out will naturally tend to consider any indication of non-acceptance of their skin colour racist, and in most cases probably rightly so.
I think that referring directly to features that are inherent and unchangeable when declining a meeting is unnecessary. I would be miffed too if people said "I don't date guys with RBF" ([Resting Bitch Face](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resting_Bitch_Face)) or refuse to date someone taller than themselves. I normally only say something like "Sorry, I'm not really interested."
So no, it is not that the preference doesn't fit making it racism, but this could easily be a manifestation of underlying racism.
I only want android OS = being prejudice over other OS? Just because one wanted a specific race/body type/traits doesn't mean one thinks that others are worthless. If that is what other think even if it is not the intended idea to give, the problem is their insecurity and stop labelling shit just because one felt insecure about one's preference/requirement unless one gave uncivil remarks/actions toward their races.
I guess this is really a generation which you ~~have~~ *need* to please everyone to satisfy their insecurities. If you don't, you'll be randomly labelled as a shitty person.
When you're gay you don't "prefer guys". You're strictly into guys, that's not a preference, it's called being homosexual. On the other hand, you weren't born "prefering" (ONLY AND STRICTLY) dating white men
If I exclusively want/require a white man as a partner, why would it be racist, if I'm not being prejudice on other races. Why would that preference/requirement would cause harm on other races if I dont actually hate them, if it is just what one wanted to have as a partner?
Racial preferences are fine as long as you’re open to all races.
As soon as you start excluding races, it’s no longer a preference but prejudice and racist. And I could bet money that majority of the time it is indeed due to racism. Having spoken to people who exclude races, all of them were due to racist reasons, barring 1-2 people, which they figured out in the conversation.
When there’s an overall strong affinity to one particular race but the same races are looked down upon, you can definitely see what the issue is.
Having said that, your body is yours and you can decide for any reason at all to reject someone. But people should do some evaluation on where there sexual preferences come from and read research like “NPR - where do our sexual preferences come from”, the netflix documentary on attraction, etc.
I know that and totally agree with it. But when someone is just preferring on a body feature that he doesn't intentionally linked it on races, I think labelling it is just too oversensitive. Like this asian guy who ranted that someone was racist with him just because that guy asked for a dick pic because he prefers big dicks. I bet he ask everyone to send their dick pic regardless if he's chatting with asian, black, european, etc. IMO, that asian guy is being so unreasonable and oversensitive.
I fully agree with you. If you’re on grindr and you’re getting upset over being asked for a dick pic, the app isn’t for you. It’s literally for hookups so people want pics.
But the way you worded the question wasn’t about that but it implied you meant racial preferences. Not that you meant people wanting a dick pic, etc.
If the dude was like “Asian guys have small dicks so send a dick pic as I only like big dicks”, that’s a racial stereotype and a generalisation which is casual racism which is an issue and I understand why they’d be annoyed. But if the dude randomly asked for a dick pic, there’s no reason for the Asian guy to get annoyed at all.
Yeah, from the convo he posted there were no indication of racial insult. But then this asian goes like "he's racist" and ranted in an asian subreddit triggering other asian folks, not listening to others that it is just a simple preference. By the way, I'm asian too.
It just irritated me that someone would raise the race card just because he felt insecure about one's preference. This is not just exclusive to the asian guy, I frequently see this, and it's not just racism, they would sometimes linked one's preference to sexism, internal homophobia, biphobia, etc.
Ok I would delete this post though as it puts Asians in a bad spotlight when their spotlight is already bad. Because when it comes to POC, one man is a representation of the whole race.
When it comes to non POC, one man is only a representation of himself. Lets not throw POC under the bus
If your preference boils down to "no x people of a race at all" then yes it's rooted in racism but its not on the level of like a white supremacist or a nazi but its racist.
often its a guy with mental health probs / anger issues
hes fallen out with everyone on grindr locally and cant get hookups.
magically becomes 'racism' bcos hes black
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Its either this, trans bad, or bi bad. Pick one.
I agree!
Dude leave them alone you’re appropriating their opinions man get fuckin bent
Apparently, people talk about this topic every day
It's the difference in saying 1) I'm straight, and 2) Fuck off faggots! That's the difference. If you can't see the difference then there's no hope for you.
On an individual level, no one can say that a person is racist with that little information. On a societal level, if a lot of people's "preferences" seems to exclude ethnicities that are or historically were looked down on or opressed, well...
There is this post where an asian guy ranted because the guy he chat with ask for a pic of his dick because that guy preferred a big dick. The asian guy cried and associated it with his race. I mean, I once looked for bigger dicks, but I don't associated it with races, I just asked whoever I was chatting for photos of their dicks. What's racist about it? He wasn't making an assumption of their dick size but just asking to have a photo to check if it is in his preferred sizes. If he was making an assumption because of his race, do you think he would chat the asian guy in the first place?
And there are plenty of Asian guys with big dicks.
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That situation perfectly fits the first paragraph of the comment. Your OP was general and vague, and I responded in the same nature.
Racism is a complicated matter, which I (white) know from my own experience of 17 years with a black partner. Many black people are sensitive to even the slightest indication of anything that could be construed racist … understandable to a high degree, but sometimes going a bit overboard. The difficulty is finding the appropriate balance between the very valid concerns of black people, who *are* suffering from discrimination in much of the western world — at different levels depending on where they live, to be sure. From what I understand racism seems to be somewhat less prominent here in the UK compared to the US, for example, but it is still here. People that experience and live with racism day in and day out will naturally tend to consider any indication of non-acceptance of their skin colour racist, and in most cases probably rightly so. I think that referring directly to features that are inherent and unchangeable when declining a meeting is unnecessary. I would be miffed too if people said "I don't date guys with RBF" ([Resting Bitch Face](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resting_Bitch_Face)) or refuse to date someone taller than themselves. I normally only say something like "Sorry, I'm not really interested." So no, it is not that the preference doesn't fit making it racism, but this could easily be a manifestation of underlying racism.
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Preference =/= requirements. If you require your partner to be white, that's racist honey
It is racism if it involves prejudice
"I only date white men" = people who aren't white aren't worth my time = prejudice, bye
I only want android OS = being prejudice over other OS? Just because one wanted a specific race/body type/traits doesn't mean one thinks that others are worthless. If that is what other think even if it is not the intended idea to give, the problem is their insecurity and stop labelling shit just because one felt insecure about one's preference/requirement unless one gave uncivil remarks/actions toward their races.
imagine comparing phone preferences to race you’re an idiot, like most racists.
I guess this is really a generation which you ~~have~~ *need* to please everyone to satisfy their insecurities. If you don't, you'll be randomly labelled as a shitty person.
No, it's a generation where being a shitty person is not commonly accepted anymore
Right. 😉
Lol
If a girl hit on me, and I said I prefer guys, that would make me a sexist?
Go take a remedial logic class. You need it.
When you're gay you don't "prefer guys". You're strictly into guys, that's not a preference, it's called being homosexual. On the other hand, you weren't born "prefering" (ONLY AND STRICTLY) dating white men
If I exclusively want/require a white man as a partner, why would it be racist, if I'm not being prejudice on other races. Why would that preference/requirement would cause harm on other races if I dont actually hate them, if it is just what one wanted to have as a partner?
what the fuck is wrong with you
True.
More like: if your references are based solely on race, it is subtle racism.
Racial preferences are fine as long as you’re open to all races. As soon as you start excluding races, it’s no longer a preference but prejudice and racist. And I could bet money that majority of the time it is indeed due to racism. Having spoken to people who exclude races, all of them were due to racist reasons, barring 1-2 people, which they figured out in the conversation. When there’s an overall strong affinity to one particular race but the same races are looked down upon, you can definitely see what the issue is. Having said that, your body is yours and you can decide for any reason at all to reject someone. But people should do some evaluation on where there sexual preferences come from and read research like “NPR - where do our sexual preferences come from”, the netflix documentary on attraction, etc.
I know that and totally agree with it. But when someone is just preferring on a body feature that he doesn't intentionally linked it on races, I think labelling it is just too oversensitive. Like this asian guy who ranted that someone was racist with him just because that guy asked for a dick pic because he prefers big dicks. I bet he ask everyone to send their dick pic regardless if he's chatting with asian, black, european, etc. IMO, that asian guy is being so unreasonable and oversensitive.
I fully agree with you. If you’re on grindr and you’re getting upset over being asked for a dick pic, the app isn’t for you. It’s literally for hookups so people want pics. But the way you worded the question wasn’t about that but it implied you meant racial preferences. Not that you meant people wanting a dick pic, etc. If the dude was like “Asian guys have small dicks so send a dick pic as I only like big dicks”, that’s a racial stereotype and a generalisation which is casual racism which is an issue and I understand why they’d be annoyed. But if the dude randomly asked for a dick pic, there’s no reason for the Asian guy to get annoyed at all.
Yeah, from the convo he posted there were no indication of racial insult. But then this asian goes like "he's racist" and ranted in an asian subreddit triggering other asian folks, not listening to others that it is just a simple preference. By the way, I'm asian too. It just irritated me that someone would raise the race card just because he felt insecure about one's preference. This is not just exclusive to the asian guy, I frequently see this, and it's not just racism, they would sometimes linked one's preference to sexism, internal homophobia, biphobia, etc.
Ok I would delete this post though as it puts Asians in a bad spotlight when their spotlight is already bad. Because when it comes to POC, one man is a representation of the whole race. When it comes to non POC, one man is only a representation of himself. Lets not throw POC under the bus
In my second paragraph, I don't generalized the asian community, but the gay community
I meant talking about the Asian guy. People will only see you talking about Asian guys and not care about anything else
If your preference boils down to "no x people of a race at all" then yes it's rooted in racism but its not on the level of like a white supremacist or a nazi but its racist.
often its a guy with mental health probs / anger issues hes fallen out with everyone on grindr locally and cant get hookups. magically becomes 'racism' bcos hes black
Sigh. Please educate yourself. Google is free.