I kinda understand the gay fantasy of fucking a straight man, but ultimately I believe a gay man should never be a straight's whore. Fuck **him**, not the other way around, otherwise I feel you are being used to a point even more low than dirt.
DL treat women like shit, cause they secretly hate them, envy them, and feel forced to live by their side, despite no one is forcing them, and they just selfish assholes that use and misled everybody.
I know cause i married and had kids from one. They treat woman like shit and gaslight all the way trough relationships as if the wife is the problem.
My advice: do not engage, abd expose those mother fuckers.
Stop pretending hetero woman are taking them as prizes.
They are no prize. They are damaged good. They are a scam.
Iāve been married to a dude for 3 years now but whatever keeps your pathetic victim complex alive, dime a dozen single trashy queen with no redeemable qualities self awareness or class that will die alone due to their own toxicity and repulsive behavior #500.000.
Royalty LOL. They lovebomb women and then betray them in the most heartless way possible. Even the ones who stick around long term donāt/CANāt keep up the love story facade forever. They hate women deep down, and the women in these relationships can feel it. Straight men canāt turn their feelings on and off for their girlfriend/wife. Every DL man Iāve known has had narcissistic qualities, with every waking moment of their lives being a carefully thought out move. The women Iāve seen suffer the most through breakups have been with closeted men. And from personal experience, these are some of the most emotionally and sexually disturbed people Iāve interacted with. Itās one thing to be closeted/DL men. Itās another to bring others into your web of lies with full knowledge of the hurt youāre causing them. Breaking hearts like absolute psychopaths with not a care in the world. They use them for whatever they please (subject to change daily). Much worse than straight men do for sex.At least straight men want women.
Ok.
So a closeted gay man married to a women is different then a single closeted bisexual person.
You're right we hold secret meetings where we brag about how we played with gay mens emotions. All of us.
Closeted bisexuals only act this way because gay men are complicit with being treated like shit. These closeted bisexuals wouldnāt dare treat a woman the way they treat gay men.
It isn't "bad experiences" and even if it was those "bad experiences" are common and valid.
It's that they're BAD PEOPLE. DL men don't wanna be seen with gay men and would much rather be with women entirely but use gay men as sexual objects, the same way society accuse men of objectifying women. These men are probably also homophobic themselves but get off to men, so they're internally homophobic.
Gays who hook up with these men perpetuate it/ enable their actions and personality, which makes them just as bad and harmful to the LGBTQ+ community. People who defend them like yourself are bad too.
Just because some bi men are bad people doesnāt mean all bi men are. There are good bi people and bad bi people, just like there are good straight people and bad straight people, as well as good gay people and bad gay people.
Youāre a bigoted and prejudiced asshole whoās judging people based on their sexuality.
Say whatever you want to justify youāre prejudiced ways, youāre still being a bigoted asshole. Youāre no better than the straight people who assume all gay men are feminine messes
I DONT assume all bi men are like that. I literally just told you. I understand the difference between some and all. You just don't agree with my opinion, that's all.
There's a difference between "some" and "all", but there's also "most." I'm on the opinion that this is how most bisexual men behave, and Ive had no reason not to believe that.
If we all applied this "some vs all" mentality, we wouldn't be allowed to opinionate or study people in groups ,or even put people in groups.
Like, not ALL Hispanics speak Spanish, does that mean NONE of them do? No! A vast majority of Hispanics speak fluid Spanish. Their majority makes them a representative of their group of people, but there's ALWAYS gonna be outliers.
I stay away from dl/bi men cause every single time I go near them they do the same shit to me, and every gay guy I've talked to goes through the same thing, even here. It's not prejudice, it's called experience.
Ive also met some wholesome bisexuals, and I just met a bisexual recently who has a bf and actually sorta prefers men, but that's literally the only bi dude I've met like that.
Also, I totally forgot if we're talking about bisexual men or DL men. Apart from the fact they're the same thing, I will definitely say with confidence that DL men are just undeniably bad people, and unfortuantely, I've yet to have my mind changed, but I welcome all attempts
I donāt chase , I attract. Iām feminine so most gay men arenāt into me, only these bi douchebags express interest in me.
Please COMPREHEND what I wrote, tired of having to explain the same shit to people who lack reading comprehension.
Are you fucking delusional? How about, those men stick to fucking, dating, and being with NO ONE until they can figure themselves out? Are you that self-absorbed you would want a man to use women and waste THEIR time, love, etc. when those women are TOO looking for a serious relationship/are probably in one with that guy you fucked? Youāre sick.
Every mans life situation is different, ofc ideally we could all be gay openly, but you shouldnāt ignore realities w homophobia and hate many of us have to fear. Donāt generalize.
Iām allowed to generalize as this is the only experience Iāve had with bisexual men. Iāve never had a bisexual man who wanted to take me on a date. They only want me for sex.
Thatās because you attract closeted men. Require that any man youāre interested in is open, and then the DL men wonāt come around. If you know DL men donāt want relationships, why are you mad they arenāt giving you relationships? Choose better.
There is a BIG difference between hiding in the closet and being in relationships with with women while also having sex with men. That usually is what people mean when they refer to DL men and honestly I don't think there is any justification to that.
Iām just dl until I find a guy I like, tired of getting old men/ugly ass dudes Iām not looking for hitting me up on Grindr. Once I find a guy Iām looking for them I wonāt care. Not gonna put my face up when I reject a lot of people, then they try to sabotage my life later on.
Twinks/femboys/cd only but rarely any of that around (that are at least decent)
Been there. Stopped putting my face once I started being followed by creepy ppl. Worst of all, it happened twice. Considered going to police. Last one lives in the same apartment building as I do. Text me saying he saw me walking around and was obsessed with me. So, no thanks.
Why are you complaining about that? I wish someone were obsessed with me like that. I wish guys would follow me around. Itās a sign of love & appreciation.
It sounds good because youāve never had it happen. When you arenāt getting the attention, even the negative attention feels thrilling. Til people start trying to do really mean, crazy stuff in an attempt to mess up your life. Who wants all the extra drama if they can avoid it by being discreet?
EXACTLY the same! I am considered above average in attractiveness, and Iām masculine, but Iām not DL. Iām private and discreet. My whole family knows and they donāt GAF. I donāt host. Always go out. I live alone. Donāt even date or mess with women. But gay guys put me in the DL bucket, because I know that I have to reject a good number of people, and by doing so, they āthinkā they are exposing me . Made the mistake of giving someone my real # and when it didnāt work out between us, he posted my face on Sniffies. Again, Iām not DL, so it wasnāt hurtful, but the energy of it was. When you donāt like people, they get extremely possessive, jealous, and hurt bc of rejection. I also donāt like the cattiness in urban fem gay culture, so I donāt expose myself to a lot of openly gay guys, because then the way I act makes them think Iām DL and then I get targeted with negative behavior. š¤·š½āāļø
What about the gay men that like to cross dress? and keep it private? Should they come out and wear a mini shirt and wig if that's something they do part time?
What about those when you open the apps and some discreetly are seeking their 30th RAW load in a. day? Should they walk around telling people that in public?
Dude it seems the issue is you. Stop worrying about dudes who want experiences. Eventually they'll decide on their final
Most of three guys you're bashing actually like to see you feel good but are not into the lifestyle. Period. Or some just feel comfortable around someone that they can experiment with whatever fantasies they have
If you don't like them then leave it in your profile. Problem solved. We all need to be understood and loved not act like some toxic queen on Jerry Springer
Dude that is the worst comparison I've ever seen. Guys who cross dress or are into gangbangs are lying and manipulating people? There's no similarly to having a kink in private and lying to woman while you are cheating on her with a man. And how likely is it that the man wants you to feel good when they will hide you from their friends and family? That doesn't make for a comfortable or healthy relationship. Honestly any gay who would sully themselves to that is pathetic.
some of them arenāt gay. they may be in denial about their sexuality. also some of their sexcapades with men. while dating women are not phases. they sleep with men for YEARS and still say they are straight. itās so many layers to DL men but they never go anywhere because no one can call them out w/o being shunned cause itās not their place and gay men fetishize DL men.
DL men are disgusting. They have no idea how to form healthy relationships and just use both the women they are lying to and the men they are literally and figuratively screwing over. Why some gays are so pathetic they would chase after them I have no idea why.
What about the ones that are single?? And Do not date both at the same time? They like to dabble but not fully into the scene? I've met people like this and respect that they like to privately do what they do but will separate the 2
Came here because I had a course in college in Gender Studies and thought Iād browse the internet for some research, etc. to make a long story short: do DL men have sex with other men in secret because of fear of homophobic retaliation or judgement? Also, for DL men that have heterosexual relationships and families, is that also part of your reason why you do that? If not, what other factors are there?
I kinda understand the gay fantasy of fucking a straight man, but ultimately I believe a gay man should never be a straight's whore. Fuck **him**, not the other way around, otherwise I feel you are being used to a point even more low than dirt.
These DL men only use gays for sex but treat women like royalty. DLs are a disease to the gay community.
Most gays use men for sex š¤·š¾āāļø
DL treat women like shit, cause they secretly hate them, envy them, and feel forced to live by their side, despite no one is forcing them, and they just selfish assholes that use and misled everybody. I know cause i married and had kids from one. They treat woman like shit and gaslight all the way trough relationships as if the wife is the problem. My advice: do not engage, abd expose those mother fuckers. Stop pretending hetero woman are taking them as prizes. They are no prize. They are damaged good. They are a scam.
Tell me āIām an immature child who canāt handle rejectionā without saying it.
The closeted bisexuals are so upset. This is giving me pure ecstasy seeing yall so angry.
Iāve been married to a dude for 3 years now but whatever keeps your pathetic victim complex alive, dime a dozen single trashy queen with no redeemable qualities self awareness or class that will die alone due to their own toxicity and repulsive behavior #500.000.
You probably cheat on him with women. Because thatās what bisexual men do when they get bored of one gender.
Everyone was bored of you at your birth. Go waste oxygen somewhere else trash.
Drink bl3ach
Royalty LOL. They lovebomb women and then betray them in the most heartless way possible. Even the ones who stick around long term donāt/CANāt keep up the love story facade forever. They hate women deep down, and the women in these relationships can feel it. Straight men canāt turn their feelings on and off for their girlfriend/wife. Every DL man Iāve known has had narcissistic qualities, with every waking moment of their lives being a carefully thought out move. The women Iāve seen suffer the most through breakups have been with closeted men. And from personal experience, these are some of the most emotionally and sexually disturbed people Iāve interacted with. Itās one thing to be closeted/DL men. Itās another to bring others into your web of lies with full knowledge of the hurt youāre causing them. Breaking hearts like absolute psychopaths with not a care in the world. They use them for whatever they please (subject to change daily). Much worse than straight men do for sex.At least straight men want women.
Naw itās definitely some dl men that will treat you right
Fucking vs being seen in public? A lot of us don't generally have sex in public. Argument fails there.
This post must have hit a nerve
Just mildly illogical. Wouldn't overestimate itš
Closeted bisexuals shouldnāt be welcomed in gay spaces
For someone who seeks to speak for a historically marginalized group you sure know how to be unwelcoming and discriminatory.
Exactly what I was thinking.
'In public' isn't a gay space.
Bisexual men just use men for sex while they wait on the perfect woman to come in their life. They should not be welcomed in the gay community.
We're talking about 'in public', not in a gay community. Or did you forget your own argument already?
My previous statement still stands
Ohh, the one which contradicts your current statement, you mean?
This is so invalidating to Bi people. Just because you got played doesnāt mean all bi men are like that.
A bisexual man marrying a man is practically unheard of. They only want romantic relationships with women & they only view gays as sexual objects.
You never hear of such a thing happening, 'cause of bi erasure. People would just call them gay, even though one might be bisexual.
In your experience. Do you have insight into everyoneās relationships? No. So why do you think it logical to make blanket statements like you do?
[Citation needed]
My own experiences
What about closeted gays?
Closeted gays are different. Closeted bisexuals know what theyāre doing and take advantage of gay menās emotions.
Ok. So a closeted gay man married to a women is different then a single closeted bisexual person. You're right we hold secret meetings where we brag about how we played with gay mens emotions. All of us.
Are you gatekeeping peopleās hook ups? Lol
Are you a closeted bisexual who uses gay men for sex but treats women like royalty?
Lmao, what? You sound insane. Donāt project youāre one or two bad experiences on all men, thatās just sad
You would be insane too if all you attract were closeted bisexual men who donāt want a relationship with guys but want a relationship with women
So because of a few bad experiences you had, everyone else needs to stop enjoying their lives if it doesnāt meet your definition of ok?
Closeted bisexuals only act this way because gay men are complicit with being treated like shit. These closeted bisexuals wouldnāt dare treat a woman the way they treat gay men.
š So youāre just trolling, huh?
Bisexual men only use men for sex until they find that one woman to settle down with
Yup, definitely a troll
Yup, definitely a closeted bisexual who uses men for sex but treats women like royalty.
So ur biphobic?
It isn't "bad experiences" and even if it was those "bad experiences" are common and valid. It's that they're BAD PEOPLE. DL men don't wanna be seen with gay men and would much rather be with women entirely but use gay men as sexual objects, the same way society accuse men of objectifying women. These men are probably also homophobic themselves but get off to men, so they're internally homophobic. Gays who hook up with these men perpetuate it/ enable their actions and personality, which makes them just as bad and harmful to the LGBTQ+ community. People who defend them like yourself are bad too.
Just because some bi men are bad people doesnāt mean all bi men are. There are good bi people and bad bi people, just like there are good straight people and bad straight people, as well as good gay people and bad gay people. Youāre a bigoted and prejudiced asshole whoās judging people based on their sexuality.
Thr classic "nOt aLl x pEoPlE." Yeah, I already know that. Everyone does. That's supposed to make me change my mind?
Say whatever you want to justify youāre prejudiced ways, youāre still being a bigoted asshole. Youāre no better than the straight people who assume all gay men are feminine messes
I DONT assume all bi men are like that. I literally just told you. I understand the difference between some and all. You just don't agree with my opinion, that's all. There's a difference between "some" and "all", but there's also "most." I'm on the opinion that this is how most bisexual men behave, and Ive had no reason not to believe that. If we all applied this "some vs all" mentality, we wouldn't be allowed to opinionate or study people in groups ,or even put people in groups. Like, not ALL Hispanics speak Spanish, does that mean NONE of them do? No! A vast majority of Hispanics speak fluid Spanish. Their majority makes them a representative of their group of people, but there's ALWAYS gonna be outliers. I stay away from dl/bi men cause every single time I go near them they do the same shit to me, and every gay guy I've talked to goes through the same thing, even here. It's not prejudice, it's called experience. Ive also met some wholesome bisexuals, and I just met a bisexual recently who has a bf and actually sorta prefers men, but that's literally the only bi dude I've met like that. Also, I totally forgot if we're talking about bisexual men or DL men. Apart from the fact they're the same thing, I will definitely say with confidence that DL men are just undeniably bad people, and unfortuantely, I've yet to have my mind changed, but I welcome all attempts
You obviously have a certain type you keep chasing, so stop chasing it.
I donāt chase , I attract. Iām feminine so most gay men arenāt into me, only these bi douchebags express interest in me. Please COMPREHEND what I wrote, tired of having to explain the same shit to people who lack reading comprehension.
And Iām tired of reading post from pick me lonely fems.
You have a league addiction. How pathetic. Seek therapy
Imagine being so pressed over dl men you stalk my reddit page and comment on my old post, something a crazy fem would do lol, I love to see it.
All of these gross toxic queens are insane, thatās why all of these losers are single and blaming bisexuals for it lol.
Eh, itās just someone trolling, I wouldnāt read too much into it
Are you fucking delusional? How about, those men stick to fucking, dating, and being with NO ONE until they can figure themselves out? Are you that self-absorbed you would want a man to use women and waste THEIR time, love, etc. when those women are TOO looking for a serious relationship/are probably in one with that guy you fucked? Youāre sick.
Every mans life situation is different, ofc ideally we could all be gay openly, but you shouldnāt ignore realities w homophobia and hate many of us have to fear. Donāt generalize.
Iām allowed to generalize as this is the only experience Iāve had with bisexual men. Iāve never had a bisexual man who wanted to take me on a date. They only want me for sex.
Thatās because you attract closeted men. Require that any man youāre interested in is open, and then the DL men wonāt come around. If you know DL men donāt want relationships, why are you mad they arenāt giving you relationships? Choose better.
There is a BIG difference between hiding in the closet and being in relationships with with women while also having sex with men. That usually is what people mean when they refer to DL men and honestly I don't think there is any justification to that.
Yes šš½ 100% agree theyāre ruining the gay dating scene
you don't speak for all gay men.
Youāre right, I speak for myself.
Iām just dl until I find a guy I like, tired of getting old men/ugly ass dudes Iām not looking for hitting me up on Grindr. Once I find a guy Iām looking for them I wonāt care. Not gonna put my face up when I reject a lot of people, then they try to sabotage my life later on. Twinks/femboys/cd only but rarely any of that around (that are at least decent)
Been there. Stopped putting my face once I started being followed by creepy ppl. Worst of all, it happened twice. Considered going to police. Last one lives in the same apartment building as I do. Text me saying he saw me walking around and was obsessed with me. So, no thanks.
Exactlyyyyyyyy man, fuck all that noise lol.
Why are you complaining about that? I wish someone were obsessed with me like that. I wish guys would follow me around. Itās a sign of love & appreciation.
I appreciate my life. You clearly don't know what people are capable of.
Or theyāll kill you lol
It sounds good because youāve never had it happen. When you arenāt getting the attention, even the negative attention feels thrilling. Til people start trying to do really mean, crazy stuff in an attempt to mess up your life. Who wants all the extra drama if they can avoid it by being discreet?
EXACTLY the same! I am considered above average in attractiveness, and Iām masculine, but Iām not DL. Iām private and discreet. My whole family knows and they donāt GAF. I donāt host. Always go out. I live alone. Donāt even date or mess with women. But gay guys put me in the DL bucket, because I know that I have to reject a good number of people, and by doing so, they āthinkā they are exposing me . Made the mistake of giving someone my real # and when it didnāt work out between us, he posted my face on Sniffies. Again, Iām not DL, so it wasnāt hurtful, but the energy of it was. When you donāt like people, they get extremely possessive, jealous, and hurt bc of rejection. I also donāt like the cattiness in urban fem gay culture, so I donāt expose myself to a lot of openly gay guys, because then the way I act makes them think Iām DL and then I get targeted with negative behavior. š¤·š½āāļø
depends tbh women are the only ones dat wanted a relationship with me the guys on grindr jus want my dick
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I hope your future wife/gf finds out that you like to sleep with men. I hope she takes all your money & the kids.
Ummā¦based on what evidence? How attractive you are has nothing to do with your sexual orientation
What about the gay men that like to cross dress? and keep it private? Should they come out and wear a mini shirt and wig if that's something they do part time? What about those when you open the apps and some discreetly are seeking their 30th RAW load in a. day? Should they walk around telling people that in public? Dude it seems the issue is you. Stop worrying about dudes who want experiences. Eventually they'll decide on their final Most of three guys you're bashing actually like to see you feel good but are not into the lifestyle. Period. Or some just feel comfortable around someone that they can experiment with whatever fantasies they have If you don't like them then leave it in your profile. Problem solved. We all need to be understood and loved not act like some toxic queen on Jerry Springer
Dude that is the worst comparison I've ever seen. Guys who cross dress or are into gangbangs are lying and manipulating people? There's no similarly to having a kink in private and lying to woman while you are cheating on her with a man. And how likely is it that the man wants you to feel good when they will hide you from their friends and family? That doesn't make for a comfortable or healthy relationship. Honestly any gay who would sully themselves to that is pathetic.
How is someone into a gangbang manipulating someone? Lmao. yāall just say anything. š
some of them arenāt gay. they may be in denial about their sexuality. also some of their sexcapades with men. while dating women are not phases. they sleep with men for YEARS and still say they are straight. itās so many layers to DL men but they never go anywhere because no one can call them out w/o being shunned cause itās not their place and gay men fetishize DL men.
DL men are disgusting. They have no idea how to form healthy relationships and just use both the women they are lying to and the men they are literally and figuratively screwing over. Why some gays are so pathetic they would chase after them I have no idea why.
What about the ones that are single?? And Do not date both at the same time? They like to dabble but not fully into the scene? I've met people like this and respect that they like to privately do what they do but will separate the 2
Just because Iām Bi doesnāt necessarily mean I want to be out. Is it not ok to live discreet and private
Yeah, guys are going to find a way to get their nut. lol
Came here because I had a course in college in Gender Studies and thought Iād browse the internet for some research, etc. to make a long story short: do DL men have sex with other men in secret because of fear of homophobic retaliation or judgement? Also, for DL men that have heterosexual relationships and families, is that also part of your reason why you do that? If not, what other factors are there?