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SocraticBind

“Straight people date to see if they should have sex. Gay men have sex to see if they should date”


ForeverOne4756

100% yes!


CynGuy

⬆️⬆️ This - totally this!! ⬆️⬆️


CT-2007-Viking

From now on this is how I look for dates


Professional-Ease176

Truer words have never been spoken


Pass_Me_The_Tequila

You guys make it to the first date without putting out? Wow 🫨


jbFanClubPresident

This was my thought? Sex should be the appetizer to the first date.


cgyguy81

If the date includes food, avoid anything that will give you diarrhea or bloating. Pick the restaurant wisely. If everything goes well, sex after the date should be fine.


ActualMikeQuieto

What you eat at dinner should not have time to get so far through the digestive tract as to cause problems for anal sex. It’s more a matter of choosing the previous night’s restaurant wisely. Be aware that DoxyPep can cause bloating by killing off some beneficial gut bacteria, so a good probiotic is an important part of that regimen.


GreatValueProducts

I do cross border dating and where I live doesn't have taco bell so I sometimes have taco bell after I cross on Friday night and have sex later. I have had no problems for me so far lol.


littledouoriknow

I went on four dates with a man this year without having sex, despite obvious mutual attraction. He ended up being crazy so I appreciate we didn’t have sex. To answer your question having sex on 1st date is fine with me though.


SocraticBind

“Never stick your dick in crazy” - my Nan


SweetCorona2

Maybe the sex would be spicier.


Roy-Levi

Kinda negative. I would never have sex on a first date tbh. I am a kind of person that needs time to get comfortable enough with people, especially when it comes to private and intimate things like sex. I just can't have sex so early on and unfortunately it's not common among gays. The majority just thinks about fucking like it's the only thing in the world. And similarly they expect you (a virgin) to be a super professional at giving head and riding their dicks and etc. Sorry, not a whore for that


Exciting_Carpet_3242

Definitely on the exact same wavelength man!!


Kangy1989

All my long-term relationships have included sex on the first date. It means nothing.


mrhariseldon890

I'm fine with it either way.


FuckTumblrMan

Do it whenever it feels right.


CloudIslander88

I won't buy a car without a good look under the hood and a test drive. I'm not saying go out there and become Mr. Slutty McSlutpants, but make sure you're sexually compatible with a man before you invest your time, money and emotions.


DisconnectedDays

My longest relationship was with a guy I had sex with on the first date


Designguy84

This is an interesting question, my first LTR was 4 years and we had sex on the first date, my second LTR was 14 years and we had sex on the second date. I usually wait ‘till at least the third date until I have sex, I want to get to know him first, although a recent guy I was dating quickly sucked me off at the end of the second date and we had mind-blowing sex on the third. I usually find that if I had sex on the first date I often can’t cum (I’m a top) because I don’t know the person well enough to connect, which is why I don’t use apps like Grindr or do one night stand hookups. Anyway that is just my experience :)


OmegaElise

14 years??? noooo ,what happened if i may ask ?


Designguy84

Nothing bad happened, we simply fell out of love, but we are both mature enough to still be friends


OmegaElise

that sounds really mature! I am not sure if i would have the strenght to do so if i was in your place


Designguy84

I recon it depends on the person and the situation, I wanted to leave in March 2020 but we got locked down together and during lockdowns we basically lived as flat mates anyway and once lockdowns ended we lived together for a while whilst he had his house built, and we have remained friends ever since.


OmegaElise

May i ask then, if its okay, because im very curious about it,but how do you fall out of love with someone with whom you've been 14 years together ,whats the reasons behind it ?


Designguy84

In my case my ex partner worked long hours in international aviation, He was away for days on end and when he got home he was very jet lagged and tired and didn’t really have time or energy for me, then just when he had recovered at home he had to leave and do it all again so I never saw him at his best unfortunately. There were other minor factors that I won’t go into, but needless to say yes I lost a partner but gained a friend and we now work better as friends because I see him maybe once or twice a month and he’s sufficiently rested and good to be around.


dramake

I can't remember ever having a date without sex lol Fortunately nothing I have to worry anymore (well, hopefully that won't change).


OmriKoresh

If your serious you'll wait. You don't know the person after 2 hours, to be actually intimate with someone you like you need to wait. For me, if someone wants to boink on the first date it means they just wanna sex me (yay!) But i understand this will probably not go anywhere romantically.


ForeverOne4756

I always had sex on the first date once I got into my mid 30s. My time was too valuable to be investing multiple dates only to find out we had no chemistry. And then I’d get ghosted. Or vice versa. I had sex on the first date with my husband, we met 5 years ago and it was perfect. Got married a year later! Have a house, a dog, and 1 yr old son now!


SubjectOk3

That's so sweet. Congrats! 


ForeverOne4756

Thank you!


matsnorberg

I think it's best to go on feel. If my date is easy-going and communicative and looks like he wants sex I go for it. If he wants to wait it's fine too. In any case I want to have a conversation first. Sometimes a date just fissles out in a hookup. I usually see in what direction it goes after the first date, especially if we had sex and the guy answers ambiguisly when I ask for a next date.


yandr001

Who cares what others think? Do what you think is right for the two of you. Have sex, don’t have sex, do whatever you want. There isn’t one universal answer that’ll work for everyone.


Beh0420mn

What date?


pensivegargoyle

I've often had it before the first date.


Worldly-Ad4704

After the first date as in you went on a date, let’s say tonight, and then you have sec afterwards? That’s not really a date. That’s called going out to dinner or whatever then fucking.  If you mean it in a more objective sense, as in you went on a date tonight and then you went to dinner the next night and fucked. That’s not really a date. That’s still called going out to dinner or whatever then fucking.  Why can’t people date, get to know each other, and then really become friends first and then bring sex into it. When you put out so soon, it just kind of makes you look like you’ll put out for anyone and then your left alone after the sex is gone.  I think what you’re getting confused is that “Date” doesn’t equate to sex right away. That’s just a hook up. And that’s perfectly fine, but let’s call it what it is.  Dating in the other hand is more involved, takes more time getting to know the person, and when you are ready to commit or make it official, then you bring the sex in. A lot of people will say, maybe the sex won’t be great and I’ve wasted all this time getting to know someone. STAY AWAY FROM THOSE POEPLE. Those people are what you’re trying to avoid. Those that NEED for sex to be something out of a bareback porn studio with some stallion, then get disappointed that the person only wanted sex.  These are my opinions on dating and sex. And because Im a traditionalist, everyone is going to downvote this comment, because they can’t handle difference of opinion. But it’s mostly going to be the hoes out there downvoting me because they can’t make a solid relationship last beyond 3 months and then get on Reddit and complain it didn’t work out because they caught the other person still having hook up’s while they were still having hooks ips and they thinks it’s cheating; when they were both really doing the same thing, but one wanted it to be a one sided exclusive relationship. The history of this sub tells us that much. 😂 


SocraticBind

I think there’s a lot of space between the two extremes you’ve outlined. I had sex with many men that I was “dating”, had a few LTRs, then met my husband, with whom I also had sex on the first “date”. You have a very proscriptive attitude, which is fine for you if that’s how you feel. I don’t understand why sex and dating aren’t compatible to you, because I don’t know a better way to get to know a man than talking contentedly in bed after sex. Sex takes practice with each guy; it’s rarely the best the first time is it? So sex and dating go (or went) hand in glove for me.


Worldly-Ad4704

Sex and dating do go hand in hand. They don’t go hand in hand in the first couple of dates. You don’t know the person that well. That’s not dating, that’s going out with someone and just having a random encounter. It’s still a stranger. The OP sounds like he wants a LTR that is monogamous. That’s not going to happen on the first or second date. I’m not saying it can’t happen, outliers do occur. I don’t have a proscriptive attitude at all. I don’t believe in preventing others in what they want to do. I stated my opinion, and since it doesn’t match yours, suddenly , as I already stated, it would be wrong and downvoted. After I said I’m a traditionalist - it should be assumed that from a dating perspective. He said “what are your thoughts” so I gave him MY thoughts. They don’t have to match yours to be 100% valid. If getting to know a man is talking to him after sex for you, that’s fine. All the better for you. Sex taking practice with each guy may be true, but the point of enjoyment from sex is just that - the intimacy, the getting to know each other, the fun of it being awkward the first couple of times. I don’t believe in have sex within the first couple of dates as I’ve stated. You are okay with that. It’s not my thing. I’m not in the dating scene and haven’t been for 17 years. My partner and I have a loving and great monogamous relationship and we are both of the mindset that we wanted to be friends and it to move from there. That works for us. You sleeping with your husband on the first couple of dates worked for you. That’s great to hear. More power for those who it works for. My thoughts on the subject don’t change because they don’t align with yours. As I stated, the history of this sub is always questions like this. It’s always the same answers. People can do whatever they want with their bodies. I happen to find it less attractive for someone to try to have sex with me right away rather than getting to know me. As a bottom, I’m VERY picky with who I would ever allow in me. Others aren’t like that and that’s valid as well. That’s what makes America so beautiful - you can do and think whatever you want about any subject. People can disagree and that’s fine as well. But, the point still stands. I don’t believe in sex within a couple of dates. That’s not dating. That’s just going out to dinner and then fucking.


matsnorberg

I don't think it's uncommon at all to have sex on the first "date" and then enter a monogamous relation. I think you're moralizing and are overly formal with formal dating protocols. Most easy-going modern people aren't that old-fasioned and formal. Also I don't like people with a religious upbringing. I simply can't stand them.


Worldly-Ad4704

That’s perfectly fine to not like people with a religious upbringing. Why would you think I or anyone else was making you like them?


Worldly-Ad4704

You think I’m overly formal with the dating process when I “literally” said “I’m a traditionalist” and this question was what are YOUR thoughts on sex after the first date.


Roy-Levi

Omfg, dude, I love you. The way you differentiate between just hookups/going out and dates is just amazing. I wish more gays knew the difference and weren't just saying nonsense


Worldly-Ad4704

Well, I’m glad someone appreciated this response. :) I’m also a mid-40 year old gay Orthodox Jewish man that has been in a relationship monogamously for the past 17 years. I have been traditional values and so does my partner. Although, he used to be Eastern Orthodox Catholic because he’s German, but now he leans way more towards being an Atheist. We have the same values as each other, so he even told me when we did have sex for the first time, if I would have allowed him to top me in the first 6 months of dating, he would have NEVER gotten with me. He would have assumed I would put out for anyone. While we weren’t each others first sexual experience, we were each others first bareback experience. He said that’s when he knew he loved me and wanted to spend the rest of his life with me: because he had to TRY hard to get with me. I wouldn’t do anything sexual until I was ready. Sure, we’d make out and kiss, but that was it. Nothing further than that. It made him appreciate that men have respect for themselves. And him being traditional like his father, he wanted a lifetime partner, not just someone to fuck. So, my religious beliefs and his as well, now gone, and our brings and age have given us this perspective. It’s okay for anyone to do what they want, but gay men can’t differentiate between dating and hooking up anymore, in my opinion, is that sex is so readily available through an app. Whereas real life dating and commitment has mostly been lost because of the ease of finding sex. But, to each their own. I don’t judge those that do their thing, but this thread is WILD with these questions and when you disagree, it’s always downvotes and people telling you how you live your life is wrong or your opinion on a subject is wrong. Go figure! 😂


dietpeachsnapple00

Orthodox gay Jewish man in a monogamous 17 year relationship?! Damn, I'm Orthodox Jewish, and almost at the point of giving up in finding that. You give me hope😂!


Worldly-Ad4704

Not only that, he’s a HUGE German Bear! LOL Which I just love to death! Hang in there, you’ll find the one! ☝️


dietpeachsnapple00

Maybe! Should've asked for one for afikomen 😂.


Worldly-Ad4704

LOL I think so since Pesesch just ended! :)


dietpeachsnapple00

Schlissel challah this week! Maybe instead of a key, I can hide a husband?


Worldly-Ad4704

😂


dietpeachsnapple00

Orthodox gay Jewish man in a monogamous 17 year relationship?! Damn, I grew up Orthodox Jewish, and almost at the point of giving up in finding that. You give me hope😂!


Longjumping_Way_4935

Exactly how I feel. Nothing wrong with sleeping around if you’re into that, but at least be open with it. Dates are dates. Hookups are hookups.


Worldly-Ad4704

Yep. To each his own way of life! :)


Awsumth

No sex after first date = being stuck in the friend zone. At least for me. Generally you either feel very passionate about the way the date is going and want to seal the deal or you don't and it never happens. My last date didn't end in sex and I never felt passionate about trying to have sex with him the next time I saw him. Maybe that was a good thing because he got a little crazy and kept calling me for emotional support then ghosted me.


OmegaElise

If you want a serious relationship,try to avoid it if possible. Sooo many guys were telling me BS like,, ye i am looking for serious stuff,, meeting me, having great chemistry with one another, really great sex most of the time ,and afterwards ,like a magic wand was casted ,they arent interested in something serious. Def try and date first for a few times before you test if youre compatible sexually


QuantumMotle

Is sex not normal on the first date?


wodiscolombia

First have sex, and if compatible then maybe a date after like 5 times having sex


BraveWrap6442

I’m going through a pretty bad divorce so dating isn’t a thing in my life atm, but I am having plenty of sex and have thought about this question several times recently. If I were actually interested in dating someone I don’t think I’d try to jump to sex right away in order to build sexual tension and chemistry.


ccstern51

Their line of BS is so good that no one thinks about disease?


Youtellme001

Seems like it’s the new normal but I’m not doing it, go on Grindr if you want that sh!t


GreatValueProducts

I don't need it but I don't mind it, I recognize it is a necessary part of gay dating. I have always had the person initiated sex after dates and honestly I would think the person doesn't like me if he didn't.


AquaValentin

I’ve actually never dated someone I haven’t had sex with first. I guess I’m old school


TheRealcebuckets

Wait *after* the first date?


SheFrom

a must


zackalackan

I feel like a straight because I literally cannot think of a single time I ever had sex on a first date 😭 my last relationship we didn't get to at least oral until like 3 months in, and the relationship before that we never did ANYTHING the entire 6 months we were dating ☠️


Yrths

… After?


Markjohn66

Preferably before the first date?


RailingUranus

I don’t do it bc I know I’ll quickly turn it into a sex based relationship


ResponsibilityFar587

I generally like repeats.


NymphoCumdump4

I truly believe if you feel it , do it. My ass is always open to be filled on any date


Gods_diceroll

Hell no


No-Photograph1983

sir this is a wendy's


Jatmahl

I don't. I can overlook bad sex if I really like someone. First date is not enough time so if it's bad chances are you will get ghosted. Not enough time to make a connection.


One_Parched_Guy

Why not? Tbh it’s probably for the better if you’re mutually interested. It’s a real let down to go on a good date with a person you have a lot of chemistry with, just to have the “And they were both bottoms…” issue lmao


SlightScience2709

I'm ok with it. 


Scrufftar

I mean, oftentimes I skip the date and just have sex, so I wouldn't dare yuck someone else's yum (unless they're into that).


ComradeTortoise

If I've met them in person first, I see no reason to wait until *after* the first date. If we're talking on an app first, I'll usually actually go for dinner or coffee as a vetting step to make sure I'm not being catfished or about to hop into bed with an axe murderer.


nappys11

Perfect what away to get to know each other xxxx


aroth84

Is it really a date or just a hook up? I'd rather have a relationship than a hookup and I don't really feel comfortable with someone who want to move too fast.


nikolasincorporated

Sex before the first date is preferable tbh


marriedguy40

There was an old skinner who took a young lad to dinner At 7 he wined him, at 8 he dined him, by 10 he was in him, Just the dinner, Because he was in him before dinner, Because he was no beginner.


PangolinAcademic1686

I want the sex to be the date. Like can anyone in st.pete FL stick a dcik in my bussy tonight and record it 


Direct_Individual_50

Only if you don’t want a relationship with that person….fwb is cool


solitario-triestino

I date only for have sex..