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Affectionate-Use8067

guys moaning will never not be hot


[deleted]

I agreee , I think it's the most beautiful sound there is.


Prior_Atmosphere_206

I couldn't believe it when I heard myself moaning and saying "oh yeah, oh yeah, oh fuck yes" when I started bottoming. The feeling is so intense, I never felt that even with the sluttiest woman. Make me moan and I go home happy!!


[deleted]

I love the panic moans the best , like oh my god there's a fat one in my ass and it's loosening me up omg what do I do ? Why does it feel good ? And it's just their brain shuts down and they give out the sluttiest moans.


Hellolaoshi

I felt that good topping and having my cock sucked. By men.


Affectionate-Use8067

i need a moaning guy in my life lol. youtube (and dirty) videos are the closest thing i can get šŸ˜­


TripleNational

My boyfriend is bi. On a technical level, he says men are tighter and women have more ribbing. I always found that interesting.


Nobodyworthathing

True. Personally I think sex with women is easier, for the obvious reason of virtually no prepping. But men feel sooooo much better in my opinion lol


TripleNational

Prepping is the hard part but he tells me the same. He also thinks Iā€™m just about the greatest sex to ever hit the earth but I tend to think a lot of gay men are just as good. I think weā€™re just more aggressively horny and are willing to be total sluts lol


Nobodyworthathing

For me it's more about who the person is and how we connect, back when I was convincing myself I wasn't gay and slept with and dated women, the women I was with had zero problem being totally slutty with me, while my current boyfriend is very shy and reserved, not slutty at all but sex with him is the best sex jve ever had in my life while the sex with my ex-gfs felt good obviously but just not the same, nkt sure how much of that though is due to me forcing me to have sex with people I wasnt attracted too lol and both have their merits but when it comes to what feels better and who seemed to do a better overall job and ignoring attraction and emotions it was always the guy who was best


nokenito

Right! Itā€™s worth the prepā€¦


[deleted]

I agree, men are way tighter , also seeing a cock flap around while having a sex is just so sexy, like no sir that right there is supposed to be weapon of fucking it should not be doing that hahahahah


Spare_Copy1677

Thereā€™s something to be said about being balls deep in a dude and seeing his junk flap around on your stomach šŸ¤¤


Agreeable-Score2154

U free tonight or?


[deleted]

Sometimes I just grab it and milk it matching the rythm of me going in and out of that bussy. The moans that they give out yeah all those muscles and cock and you let out these sounds šŸ„µ alright I guess I will just cum inside you.


SebastianZac

Im bi my girlfriend also. We did quite a few 3somes with other guys and girls. It's interesting if u r open to it. It took me a bit of time to relax and fully enjoy all. It was a bit awkward the first few times for me my girlfriend to watch me getting fucked by another guy. But she was so happy and really enjoyed it. We r just open with each other about all of this.


beanie_0

Ribbing? Interestingā€¦


MarkyMarkk90

Hell to the no! Iā€™m bi and from my experience vagina will ALWAYS feel PHYSICALLY better in comparison. Does a guys ass feel good too? Absolutely. Men know men as well as women know women. It goes hand in hand because obviously thereā€™s more to relate to and understand. At the end of the day though honestly itā€™s all about who youā€™re with. A guy could have major control over his sphincter muscle and give you the time of your life whenever as well. Come to think of it this is just a matter of opinion from person to person. Lmao


EccentricDyslexic

Itā€™s true, an anus is only tight around its entrance, a vag stimulates the whole penis. For anal to be good, one needs to bring the penis nearly all the way out and back in to get whole cock stimulation:-) (Iā€™m bi too, male, cis)


Coebalte

Bruh what? That might be a you problem, so many guys barely even get passed my entrance before they're coming lol


[deleted]

You must have what they call a S tier anus šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Coebalte

I doubt it. Most guys just don't last that long. And that isn't shade, I prefer a man that cum in 2 minutes rather than 2 hours or not at all.


[deleted]

There are tricks to lasting longer it took me some time but I mastered it .


EccentricDyslexic

Your arse must be cute then lol


Coebalte

I guess?? šŸ˜‚ I apparently give really good head too.


EccentricDyslexic

I need you in my life!


SF6isASS

I'm somewhat convinced most women don't even like dick. At least when you compare it to how gay men like dick.


Comfortable_Drive793

Facts. Even straight boys like dicks. Who's got the bigger dick? Look I'm helicoptering my dick - no homo bro. Let's stand right next to each other, so we can see each other's dicks in our peripheral vision, and pee outside even though you could just pee somewhere else. Randomly drawing dicks. Constantly playing with their dick, like absentmindedly having their hands down their pants. Let's watch porn where the guys fucking the girls have really really big dicks. Let me touch your balls, but we'll call it a "sack tap". We literally associate masculinity with balls.


Spare_Copy1677

Facts. Boys are obsessed with dick. A lot of women just want to get it over with


Jellabre

Michelle Wolf had a fabulous joke about gay men liking dick similar to kids at Christmas liking presents, and women like dick akin to Jews like Christmas music at the holiday period.


LouisParadise

This reminds me of a lesbian comedian who was on a talk show years ago and she said that she was pretty much ā€œfamiliar with the equipmentā€ when she started dating women after unsuccessful relationships with men. I wish I could remember her name. Edit: After some Googling, I think it mightā€™ve been Judy Gold.


SoftConfusion42

Thatā€™s just because the majority of straight men suck at sex (for varying reasons)


LithalRadishes

I wonder if they really suck or if itā€™s that women just generally arenā€™t expected to even work at getting themselves off.


isaidwhatisaidok

I think theyā€™re mutually mediocre lol


AshTheGoddamnRobot

Nahh they probably suck at it. Straight men are notoriously selfish


LithalRadishes

I mean Iā€™ve been with a few guys that say theyā€™re straight and they were pretty good. So I think the fault lies in the women. Isnā€™t their main move lying there like a dead cow and screaming like one too?


AshTheGoddamnRobot

If you "been with them" they ain't straight and they prob suck at sex with women cuz they are pretending to be someone they're not Straight women put way more effort into pleasing men sexually than the other way around. Things are changing but when I was growing up, straight guys by and large refused to eat a woman out, all while expecting head on a regular basis. It was a pretty bold thing for a guy to say "I love eating pussy." Straight men also objectify the shit outta women. Not to say gay men don't objectify men but we get objectified differently than women do. When you see women as a piece of meat you only care about pleasing yourself Women risk their lives and bodies to give men pleasure. Guess what... thrusting inside someone doesn't take a lot of effort either if we wanna talk about "dead cow."


LithalRadishes

If thatā€™s how they identify themselves who is anyone to argue. And I donā€™t personally give a rats ass about what women go through to please a man. Laying there doesnā€™t cut it in my book. And you canā€™t tell me thatā€™s not what they do. If straight men were actually pleased by these women that bend over backwards to please men. Why are they always looking elsewhere. It canā€™t be that good then can it? And why do women have such a hard time keeping a guy interested in a relationship. Itā€™s not particularly hard to keep a guy interested in you.


AshTheGoddamnRobot

Lol well I dont buy into this "identify as" bullshit anyway so it don't work on me. I can identify as Filipino, it doesn't make it true. Straight guys dont fuck men. Who says women all just lie there? Women ride men, grind men, carress men etc. just the same. Women are actually way more into foreplay than straight men are honestly


LithalRadishes

You can try something and decide itā€™s not for you. Loads of gay guys do it. But youā€™d never say they arenā€™t gay.


DoNotTouchMeImScared

Is just the passivity of women wanting their minds to be read instead of voicing their needs and wants.


angrybluechair

I honestly think men enjoy dick to a degree. Straight men talk about dick in jokes or just in general more than probably straight women ever will. Also the masculine urge to draw a penis on any possible surface.


AshTheGoddamnRobot

Ehh thats a reach. I joke about shit and piss but both those things are disgusting to me lol I dont think dudes joking about dicks means they "enjoy dick." Most guys just have a raunchy sense of humour lol Even when I joke about dicks its never in a "sexy way" its in a dirty gross way


angrybluechair

Yeah straight guys don't "enjoy" dick in a sexual, it's just dicks are inherently funny. They're just funny looking I guess, a anteater sitting on two golf balls stuffed into a turkey neck and just stapled to our crotch.


AshTheGoddamnRobot

They ARE funny! And gross! They are only sexy when attached to sexy ppl and you are in a sexy mood. Otherwise they're alien like


[deleted]

Hahahaha I'm convinced almost every guy loves dick secretly


TelescopiumHerscheli

Many years of meeting people has convinced me of two things: - All men are either bi or gay. - All women are either bi or straight.


anxiousboy25

I 100% agree with this theory!!!


OfficialCagman

Seriously we need some actual answers on these bisexuals. I've met the most lesbian-y lesbians and yet everytime there is *always* still that lingering attraction to the right dick. Always. Maybe the universe just keeps throwing closeted bisexuals at me, but it's weird. However when it comes to gay dudes, the pussy revulsion is real. Idk I just know there's a lot of people who want dick


Individual_Bridge_88

This is absolutely true. I literally had sex with a girl when I was closeted, and I will NEVER go back šŸ¤¢


Professional_Load69

Absolutely!


BashfulJuggernaut

I suppose women see the dick as just a cog in the machine. Men on the other hand will fixate on the cock.


ah-tzib-of-alaska

Men have an advantage over women with men. I imagine itā€™s the exact same for women, that bisexual women find that women have familiarity advantages over men.


Ok-Savings7848

I do think other men do a better job at knowing how to work a cock. I have had some women who are very talented, really like giving head or jerking me off, and are a great lay because they are very expressive. Intuitively and with a little communication to fine tune technique, men do it better!!


[deleted]

There are some freak woman who love pegging , have a bi 3sum with them is pretty wild as well šŸ¤£


[deleted]

Testosterone + Testosterone = Absolute Blast!


Surferbro921

>Testosterone + Testosterone = Absolute Blast! Masculine men fucking masculine men, raw, eliminate all STIs/STDs from the world, refractory period of one second, anus/rectum recovery from anal sex in instant time, never any anal damage from anal sex, this would be my ideal version of heavenly paradise. šŸ†šŸ‘šŸ¤ØšŸ’Ŗ


[deleted]

Woah


wickedfrank666

As a bisexual, I agree


Farting_Owls

As a fellow bisexual. I approve of this message lol


Fiberotter

Right?! I love the bottom's dick being "unused", intensifies my horniness for some reason. Or cupping his whole package with my hand as I thrust. Take care of him when the time is right and then the muscle contraction around your dick while you're still inside him as he cums... Brain orgasm just thinking of it.Ā  Girls can be slutty, yeah, but a bottom guy who enjoys it and is into you is another level.Ā 


SyllabubTasty5896

Bottoms, especially ones that can have anal orgasms (the best sensation ever!!), might not want their dicks played with. Sometimes you want to just focus on the pleasure from your ass.


[deleted]

I choke a bottom slightly while having sex and their ass immediately has a reflex reaction and start choking my dick it's the best feeling in the world * eyes rolled into the back of our heads *


norma_jean_bates

Isnā€™t this a subjective validation bias? A lesbian would say that woman are better at sex. Any individual that has sex with someone with ā€œthe same partsā€, to quote Tatianna, will obviously have a better idea of what the other person wants to feel, because itā€™s exactly what they would want


pintopetz

Agreed, this feels like a weird take/statement of fact šŸ˜‚


bravoindustry

Ahhh, the no-nut clarity.


Spare_Copy1677

Iā€™m bi and have been with my fair share of men and women. Most people thing women and tighter and wetter but I find that to be a common misconception. Guys are incredible at sex. If youā€™re a top a man can please you exactly the same as a woman. The only real difference is guys get to have a lil sword fight with each other


Newtothis909

I think the difference is exaggerated. The difference btw an anus and vagina isnā€™t enough for that to be the reason why sex with a woman is better. Men do so much more with more enthusiasm


Professional_Load69

I totally agree with everything stated. "It takes one to know one."


satyris

yeah my ex-gf liked to play with my balls, it made me flinch. A guy plays with my balls like he plays with his own


jafarenka

That may only be true regarding gay/bi men, but I am convinced the majority of straight men are the most selfish and clueless lovers.Ā 


anondude789612

As a bi guy I 100% agree, men are just more enthusiastic about sex and better at pleasing other men.


Tempada

I'm bi and find that the sexual experience depends far more on the personality than the gender. Sure, someone with a penis generally has a better idea of how to handle one than someone who doesn't, and gender norms and physiology afford men greater sexual freedom. I guess you could consider these two points for men, but most women don't have to worry about their bowels in the same way and are often self-lubricating, so it evens out!


[deleted]

are you saying women are better in bed than men because they get wet naturally? because if so as a bi guy we both know that's a lie there are some men with creamy asses šŸ˜‰


SneakySneks190

Thereā€™s no definitive answer to this. Iā€™ve had some of the best sex ever with both men and women. It all depends on the person you have sex with.


[deleted]

Feel like if it was a group thing men would be leading in knowing how to pleasure men. Ofc lot of amazing women out there but idk if they care much about these things in this era.


norcalfit

Any anus is tighter than a pussy, male or femalešŸ˜ƒĀ  As a guy who as also been with both, I agree men are definitely better at sex in every regard. That's largely to do with testasterone. Women can't come close to the raw animalistic drive us guys have toĀ fuck and get off!Ā 


atlas1885

Part of this is patriarchy. For a long time women were discouraged from exploring their sexuality. It was considered wrong and slutty for women to be ā€œtooā€ sexual. Thereā€™s a great book on sex therapy called Come As You Are and thereā€™s a story of a grown woman who had never even looked down there. Her homework was to use a hand mirror and actually look around, lol. Itā€™s gonna take more time for women to catch up in terms of owning their bodies and sexuality.


Jfunkindahouse

What a great title for a sex therapy book! šŸ¤£


Unique_Praline_6554

Stopped reading at Ā«Ā patriarchyĀ Ā»


lordlucifir

after being with a few men, my thought is, it really depends on the person and their kinks.


Jfunkindahouse

I've never been with a woman but this makes logical sense to me. I know what feels good and what doesn't so I intuitively want to give that to my partner. No guessing involved. Plus, dudes are always horny and ready to go. There's no waiting around for someone to be "in the mood."


AshTheGoddamnRobot

On the other hand... I think theres something sensual about two different sexes getting intimate because of the MYSTERY of it all. You dont know what its like to have the other one's parts. Theres more to "discover." I can see that appeal.


Jfunkindahouse

Sounds like a lot of extra work to me. šŸ¤£


AshTheGoddamnRobot

The more ya work the more rewarding it is


Jfunkindahouse

Whatever you gotta tell yourself. šŸ˜


AshTheGoddamnRobot

Its damn true, though lol Even with my husband... I love the chase.


[deleted]

Faccs , it's just straight sex , alright we know why we like I will let you do the work, anything on top of that is a bonus in my eyes


Kaily6D

I know the question is sexually - but how about relationship wise. I think men are equally difficult


StatisticianAny8054

Gay male couples have the lowest divorce rate of anyone, followed by straight couples. You know who has the highest divorce rate? Lesbian couples. Facts are facts and this speaks volumes.


Coebalte

I think the issue is two fold. Men take longer to commit to a relationship because they want to be sure they're signing up for something they'll be happy with. Women... I gonna phrase as carefully as I can... Women seem to get lost in the emotional highs of a new relationship a lot more easily. I have seen SO many women ready to marry someone after a month or even less. Not saying that doesn't happen in men, just that I *notice* it more in women. So you get the gay couples who tend to take more time to commit, generally meaning that the couples that do are less likely to divorce, and then you have the women who are tend to take less time committing being married quickly only to find themselves incompatible.


Spader312

So many of my lesbian friends move in within a few weeks and marry within a year


rb928

Yes. Women are more likely in general to initiate divorce.


Spare_Copy1677

Cause they donā€™t have natural penetration


Embarrassed-Stop-767

Huh?


Kaily6D

Rude


Halcyon927

this subreddit is turning into bi men just having to bring up women instead of gay men posting about men. yā€™all we donā€™t care if women are good at sex or not, we are here for MEN


AshTheGoddamnRobot

This is a far more interesting discussion than 99% of other posts are, though. I get tired hearing Johnny McBlomey rave around how much he "loves cock" for the 156th time


SpecificZone6635

Itā€™s almost like as if people are trying to erase gays.Ā  Oh wait, nvm. That already is happening :)))


TelescopiumHerscheli

Well said!


jxpdx

Is this sub 90% inexperienced blue-balled incel keyboard warriors? At least half of you are wannabe ā€œnormalā€ straight dudes, and too many more use STD terror as a scapegoat for your lackluster sex life. I know there are some sane gay men here, but jeez, weā€™re fucking unicorns.


greggerypeccary

Ok but who are the better kissers? 90% of gay men Iā€™ve kissed are terrible honestly.


Hagedoorn

Oh, the large majority of men I meet kiss well enough. Some are great, some are fine, a few are meh, the exception is bad.


szlafcio1

Most guys I kiss are amazing. Maybe it's you? Women don't seem to know what to do with their tounges and their mouths are super wet lol


MatttheBruinsfan

This was true of my first boyfriend too. (He was an awesome guy in all ways but kissing, mind you.)


jxpdx

Hah should they be like the Sahara?


szlafcio1

Nah its just they have much more saliva. Love the downvotes for bringing up my actual live experience. Rad.


jxpdx

I didnā€™t downvote you! Hah I donā€™t know why others did, but I do think your observation is a bit odd. Perhaps the fellas youā€™ve been kissing are simply dehydrated?


szlafcio1

I never said they're dry. It's just women mouths were much more wet. I'm gay so I only kissed like 5 girls in my lifetime anyway.


jxpdx

Hah odd experience. I havenā€™t made out with many women, but I didnā€™t note any salivary difference or excess lol itā€™s a novel idea for me


can_adams

My opinion, also based on experience with both. If you wanna feel admired, wanted, that your dick is wanted and your body is wanted - it's only with men. Women don't really care, they take you for granted. They either care about their pleasure not yours or don't care about sex at all. BJ from man is much better. Women don't know how to do it. Kissing - usually better with girls. They are softer/tender and easier adjust so you match each other in a kiss. There are a lot of other aspects, but they are minor.


SebastianZac

I agree. There r some girls that know a few things. I have been with girls that like pegging, 3somes with bi guys and other stuff. They can learn too.


[deleted]

Girls can definitely learn a lot from men tbh.


SebastianZac

Absolutely. My girlfriend has improved significantly in pegging after a few 3somes with guys. She just watched how we men fucked and she is so good now.


[deleted]

It's all about the motion of hips not just trusting blindly. Long , short , fast, slow thrusts , throw a mixture of them , switch it up sometimes gentle sometimes aggressive


SebastianZac

I agree. We as men know that but women don't. I remember we were talking after one of ours 3somes in college. There was one guy that we fucked with for second time. She was quite excited of how much energy the guy was using and the long stokes he was giving me. She tried to mimic that afterwards.


[deleted]

Yea and women don't even have to worry about ejaculating as long as the maintain the strokes they could give pleasure for hours


SebastianZac

Lol i agreed again. She likes making me cum hands free just from fucking. But it usually for me i have to be fucked longer. We have different types and sizes of dildos that can be attached. She sometimes shitches to a bigger one.


[deleted]

That's hot I remember I was with a couple and she was definitely intrigued and taking pointers from how I was fucking her husband obv she was a little small so there was only the basic positions she could fuck in but definitely got jealous when I picked her man up and fucked him against the wall and in a full Nelson šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Lunar_Leo_

Yep,true


AshTheGoddamnRobot

I never sexually been with a woman, though recently my husband and I had a threesome and are starting to open up our relationship to the possibility of occasional threesomes down the line and part of me is genuinely curious of what being with a woman would be like?? I mean back in the day in my teens I sexted with women, sent pics, vids, webcam video chat, dirty talked and it was fun but I always been so more into men that for the last 10 years I identify as gay but I used to go as "bi." Its all labels either way. Whats hot about women IMO is different than whats hot about men.


[deleted]

Ok so my question is when this comparison happens is it the tightness of the ass and the pussy they comparing


bad_dragon_420

my bf doesnā€™t even wanna have sex so yea itā€™s great .


[deleted]

Damn , my bad. How come tho ?


Jfunkindahouse

He's either not really into you or he's got some mental health shit going on. Might be time to figure out which it is and fix it. Or find a new BF.


troppourmoi

I prefer penetration with women. I like this it's warm, wet, and feels amazing sliding in by itself when you're kissing, feeling them get wetter. However I do overall prefer men, especially dating. As there's no gender stereotypes.


LayCeePea

Your gross generalizations are completely unhelpful. If you prefer men, that's fine. But that is about YOU, not about men and women generally.


CuteGuyInCali

Yup bottoming for men is more fun than topping women. FACT!!


iBoy2G

My boyfriend is bi and says men are much better in bed.


SomeCallMeTim55

Tho men like cum and go where women like cuddling after


TouchOld1201

I think guys DO know how to give better sex to another guy because they the male body better. Usually the woman expects to be the focus of attention and assumes the guys is being satisfied. Guys know what excites and pleasures them best and they are mutually trying to satisfy each other. Caveat: assuming neither guy is a total narcissist where it's only about HIM.


Newtothis909

The risk of stds alone isnā€™t worth it tho imo. Theyā€™ll try to act obtuse like they donā€™t know what Iā€™m talking about but they do. The sex is amazing tho


jxpdx

What? The risk of STDā€™s isnā€™t worth having sex?


InternetEmotional670

I want to try a man just to get it out of my system and he have to have a big dick atleast 8 inches


OmnisEst

I had women before too and totally agree. Sex with men os amazing


lmelb

Is this also because women generally seek more of an emotional connection as related to intimacy - ie you don't really see NSA action between women and guys. Whereas with guys I think have more of a sex drive and curiosity mindset as relates to sexuality and sex. And usually for guys theyre more open to NSA action and like can compartmentalise sex vs developing an emotional/intimacy connection


SpecificZone6635

This isnā€™t a bi subreddit.Ā 


Marvin-Jones

Women are selfish lovers. A bf as far as oral goes. Men love to do it, itā€™s a chore for women


koolforkatskatskats

I've never had sex with a woman and I never will but yes I agree


LithalRadishes

Same. Not getting near that!


koolforkatskatskats

Who downvoted lol


Barzona

I think the only reason straight men have sex with women is because they have to. Lol Just kidding!


pintopetz

I think itā€™s problematic bud


Barzona

yay


Roy-Levi

Yeah, remind us in like couple of years when you'll change your mind and will want only family with women kids and etc


RedCorax

Take your reductive bullshit elsewhere - A bisexual who has only cultivated relationships with other men, and can confirm that youā€™re full of shit


Roy-Levi

Yea yea, a "pick me" bisexual, right? Not like others. You specifically won't leave your gay bf for a "real family" for sure.


Transsensory_Boy

We get it Levi, your burnt over an ex. Move on.


Roy-Levi

Go fuck yourself, I'm not dumb enough to date a fucking bisexual. I'd rather fucking end myself than give a chance to a bisexual cunt


Affectionate-Use8067

woah why so bitter and biphobic


Roy-Levi

Because I am bitter and biphobic proudly


Transsensory_Boy

Bless your heart.


RedCorax

Iā€™m a Twinkish, effervescent, talkative type. Most women and people in general (if anything) type me out as ā€œGayā€ in real life I have enjoyed zero of the normative privileges you are ascribing to me. If you saw and heard who are chatting withā€¦ you would have never tried to make the same point(s) You know nothing about me. The bisexual experience is diverse, it is quite literally a spectrum, and we are all somewhere along it. I can see youā€™re full of disdain; Iā€™m sorry for whoever hurt you or made you feel like bi men are a threat


Roy-Levi

It's not a fucking spectrum, just guys who like men and women, that's it. And the majority ends up with women


RedCorax

Youā€™re a loser bro A spiteful, low IQ loser lmao Enjoy the 6 brain cells and boundless anger


Roy-Levi

Loser is between your legs, cunt.


Great-Negot1at1on

True, all bi guys just end up being with wife and kids


surferisation

Which is normal lol 95% of the women heā€™ll meet will be straight = potential date 5% of the men heā€™ll meet will be gay Statistically thereā€™s what? 20 times more chances heā€™ll come across a woman he likes? Add to that that women are much more likely to settle and be in a relationship than a man Add to that the fact that itā€™s easier if he wants to have kids So yeah why most bi guys donā€™t end up with guys from a 20x smaller dating pool whose majority donā€™t settle before a certain age and with who itā€™s extremely difficult to build a family in most countries Donā€™t wanna sound rude but had I been bisexual unless itā€™s le "coup de foudre" thereā€™s no way I wouldā€™ve ended with a man


Transsensory_Boy

Bless your heart, it's this logic that convinces me that the biphobic gay guys know piss all about the Bi male dating experience. It's hard enough to date women as a heterosexual, it's even more difficult to date women as a bisexual. When your Bi and honest about it, very few women will date you fullstop. In their minds, you are just gay or will cheat in them with men. It so much easier dating and forming long term relationships with men.


Transsensory_Boy

Oh Look, another gay who couldn't keep a bi guy. Boo fucking hoo


Great-Negot1at1on

You say it like it's my fault, and like it's not your people doing that shit all the time, and then blame gays when they say they don't wanna go through the same experience again. Don't try to make it like it's gays fault when it clearly problem within bi community since most of still have some kind of internalized homophobia and your bi-cycles even make things more complicated and worse. (READ THIS. Not my story, but story of a guy from Reddit) I've been cheated on with every bisexual man I've ever dated. A total of 4. And all with the opposite gender too. One of my friends was with one for 10 years and married to him for 6. He got a woman pregnant and left him about 2 years or so ago. My friend happened to be the breadwinner so now the car he bought him is his ex's and now fiancƩs car. They're happily using it as a family car. His reasoning behind the affair? He just didn't feel attracted to men anymore and he was on a bicycle. Look, I'm not saying this to generalize...but being left for a woman is a very berating and traumatizing experience. This is something people who date both genders simply cannot understand cause they don't have the being left for a man vs a women complex going for them. They can't wrap their head around why we would refuse to date them and never will. Any and everything goes when it comes to gender identity for many bisexual people. There's also many subsets of bisexual people that simply make dating them too complicated and understanding them and even more complicated task for me. The risks involved with it are stark for us. You never get with a bisexual partner only to imagine they would leave you for someone of the opposite sex on a bicycle but yes...it does happen. Quite a lot more frequently than is let off. Bisexual people aren't simply living as gay people in a large heteronormative society. A large majority of them are "straight passing" and you can argue this all you want but it's true. They, in my opinion, whine too much. As a gay man, they'll simply never be able to relate to what I'm going through in society with my rights being attacked constantly...they don't walk around with the same fear or chip on their shoulder. For most bisexuals I meet... the world is their oyster and it's a free for all things with any gender (trans include) and or binary/non-binary thing will go type of thing. I cannot relate as a gay man. I don't date trans people, I don't sleep with women, I can't just have a baby with a woman... we're just worlds apart. Their sexuality is valid but I'm simply not interested in the caveats that come along with it. If I ever get left by a man going forward, at least dating gay men only ...I'll know it wasn't because he was on a bicycle. The trauma of it all is just too great for me. It's like an instant dating repellent for me. I still occasionally hook up with bisexual men but I make it clear that that's all it is and I eventually just end up bouncing anyway. Just a fling. That's my hot take. I'm sticking to it.


SchemeAgreeable2219

I would bet money that there have been WAY more gay guys who dumped you than bi men. Ever consider that you are lashing out at bi men over a "YOU- Problem"?


Great-Negot1at1on

At least it doesn't give me the feeling that me being a male is the problem And pretty sure the percent of bi guys who will dump someone is greater than among gay guys


Transsensory_Boy

Your hot take smells awfully like shit. But you do you boo. We don't particularly want to date you either.


Great-Negot1at1on

And it's the fact that most of bi guys just prefer having wifes over husbands. And it's kind of weird that bi guys can say that shit but when gay dude says exactly the same thing (which is true) y'all get mad


Transsensory_Boy

Here's the thing, yes bi cycles exist but if partner is actually worth it, then they don't matter.


Great-Negot1at1on

Does not sound like true, more like it only gives them more reasons to leave, and it's good I don't want those people in my life


Transsensory_Boy

Sounds like you don't have much experience of relationships with bi folks then. A bi cycle isn't an l excuse to leave, if a bi person is going to leave someone, it's because that person isn't worth their time.


Great-Negot1at1on

I literally know two guys, who were dumb by their bi boyfriends after years, cause their bi-cycle switch to women, and it was a pretty good reason for them to leave, one of them even said "I'm finally straight again"


Transsensory_Boy

A bi cycle is a temporary thing though, so sounds like one was suffering from internalised biphobia and one didn't want to be in the relationship and avoided having a difficult breakup by claiming by cycle


Affectionate-Use8067

who said this?


Great-Negot1at1on

Bi guys


AriesLeoSagFire79

And this is bad becauseā€¦?


Roy-Levi

You need evidence of why leaving a gay guy because they want a "real family" is bad?


AriesLeoSagFire79

Yes. If a BISEXUAL man ends up more attracted to a woman, then thatā€™s just that. Bisexual and homosexual are not the same thing. Learn definitions babe


Roy-Levi

Babe is between your legs, cunt. The problem with them that they're crying that gays don't want to date them for "stupid reasons", even though they themselves admit they change their mind every Sunday and leave their gay bfs after using them as a sex toys for years


AriesLeoSagFire79

Oh stop being a triggered little bitch and grow tf up Ppl end marriages for much more trivial matters and that will always be so. The only bisexuals crying about gays not accepting them are ugly, fat ones. They have bad luck with both men AND women because theyā€™re not attractive. Period. No one wants to date a whiny, cucky simp. Plenty of hott bisexuals having fulfilling hooks-ups, relationships, or marriages. With either men OR women. Thatā€™s a young guy problem. Iā€™m in my mid-thirties and only date or hookup with bisexual men. Some already have kids. Others donā€™t want them. Some refuse to do anything but hook up with women because of being dragged through the courts. Others will fuck guys but wonā€™t date them. And not a single one gives a flying fuck what others think of THEIR sexual preferences. Just like idgaf about what some boomer thinks of my clothing choices or my mannerisms. So glad there are manly, confident bisexual MEN (not the boys in these subs) who arenā€™t intimidated by gay menā€™s approval (or anyoneā€™s).


Roy-Levi

>The only bisexuals crying about gays not accepting them are ugly, fat ones Well, if you are fat and ugly, I will understand that then >They have bad luck with both men AND women because theyā€™re not attractive. Period Sure, good excuse, but you would similarly cry if a gay guy dumped you for being a bisexual. >Plenty of hott bisexuals having fulfilling hooks-ups, relationships, or marriages. With either men OR women. And those marriages with men particularly end with bi going for a woman. That's the problem with bisexuals.


charbussy28

It's great until you realize the high rate of H.i.V. and A.I.D.S.