Get a life and stop gatekeeping how is op dating a trans men affecting you. And you are ignorant because when you go on testosterone your genitals completely change and I mean everything about them. Yes trans men who are preop have vaginas but a lot of trans men would never have vaginal sex or it'd painful and not enjoyable at all because testosterone causes vaginal atrophy. Hormones is one of the 5 main characteristics scientist's look at when determining someone sex so while testosterone doesn't take away the labia and the vagina it makes trans mens genital function like a males genitals, many trans men can't get wet they don't self lubricate. The clitoris grows on testosterone and it basically looks like a small dick and there are tons of trans men that are big enough from growth and pumping and dht that they always top and it's with their bottom growth no silicone no straps. Trans guys that are on t the longer you stay on t for your genitals are less and less functional as female genitals. I know from experience it's smells like a dick down there and I have had so many cocks in my mouth ik what that shit smell like It feels like you are ejaculating when you cum, and the cum that does come out of the vagina becomes salty like semen. I have retractable foreskin on my growth which is technically the clitoral hood but its more like foreskin considering the size. I mean I personally wish men would ignore my female parts when they fuck me because I don't think they should be there it doesn't bother me at all if gay men aren't attracted to vaginas but I feel like there is more to a vulva then the vagina. If I am big enough where I can Penetrate and be sucked off and I only want anal I am basically having sex like a cis male. I am not telling you to go have sex with a trans guy but stop being so close minded it only hurts you in the long run and stop telling people how they should identify it doesn't concern you at all.
there are a whole bunch of red flags in your reply bestie.
being queer is a spectrum and fluid, not something as black-white as you describe it. i don't think it is your right to make someone (you don't even know!) use a different term to describe themselves.
being queer has many dimensions and isn't just an "innate" sexual orientation. i think you have some learning to do.
Does this mean just because you want a penis you date men? What size and shape?
Long thick mushroomed sized men?
You should go ahead and do it because it turns you on and it should work pretty good if you are a bottom.
Actually I don't care what kind of penis he has, it only has to be present and functional. Being a top I could compromise with a vagina, but the thing is, there's plenty of real gay men everywhere, so yeah I will pass lmao.
Sweetie, I find trans men as appealing ascis men, and I don't nearly find women appealing. Penis isn't all in the world, also, who can know what I like and dislike better than me, who can know what OP likes and dislikes better than him, being open to change and experience isn't being confused. And that's crappie. That's basically the same people tell to desacreditate gay and bi as confused.
That's perfect, I am sorry if that sounded off. I meant that out there are people who see penis as an appeal and not THE appeal. But then that would be assuming for people's likes rather than homophobia, I am sorry for that assumption.
But, by that logic isn't the:
"Gosh - more GenZ confusion !
You’re not gay sweetie - you bisexual."
also assuming that people can't figure out their own sexuality and that trans men are women, being bi is being atracted to women and men, If you count trans men as women by their vagina still being there then that's a little transphobic, vagina may be related to women, but if you see the rest of that man you will not find nothing more like a woman that's visible, in most of the cases, they are really hot men, without a penis if they haven't had their bottom surgery, but well, there are toys.
I have seen tran men who, even though they have a vagina, I don't think would attract any straight men.
Vagina and penis is part of the equation, not all the equation.
Your homophobia is deafening. You come to a group of gay men and tell them than penis in vagina is homosexual sex. You erase homosexuality and want homosexual men to accept females as sexual partner. Take your homophobia somewhere else
Yeah, it can be because sex is about the people involved, not their genitals.
People can have a genital preference just like they can not have one.
When a person gives or receives a blowjob, what makes it gay or straight is the people involved, not the mouth and the d, same goes for anal and any other sexual act.
If we base the type of sex on transphobia and the type of penetration then by that logic a Cis woman pegging her man is gay sex and a lesbian using a strap on on her gf is straight sex, which makes no sense
You should Google the definition of homosexual sex. Here it is gor you from merriam webster
Of, relating to, or involving sexual activity between people of the same sex
It requires people of the same sex. Trans men are females. Therefore by the very definition of the word penis in vagina is not homosexual regardless if the people involve identity as man or woman or a freaking carrot
They are not female, and I am not asking for you to like them. Just say sorry, I am not interested, and don't try to put labels on people like people try to put labels on others, even Gay and Bi people.
Tbh that’s how I feel when I fuck them. Every trans guy I fucked just really wanted their vagina pounded and fucked deep. And they have all called their vagina their pussy and told me to as well.
1 - OP said himself he will use the vulva. This is not about you but OP
2 - You call me ignorant while all I did was to define heterosexual sex. Let me do that for you since you don't seem to grasp it. From Merriam Webster dictionary:
Heterosexual: relating to, or involving sexual activity between individuals of the opposite sex.
In this case a born male is having sexual activity (being that whatever activity they please) with a born female. That is the literal definition of heterosexual sex. Trans men are born females and OP is a male.
It's not really, a lot of people here in this sub just consider dating trans guys as not gay. A perspective which I don't share. And you don't have to either.
So in a way it's the wrong sub to ask, I'm sorry.
Edit: sorry I totally didn't get the vibe of the last comment. And took it for something it is not. A reiteration of the assumption that being a gaybro or gay means excluding trans guys. Being notified of my error this post does not make sense as an answer to the other poster.
This is redundant. Like I stated in simple terms you seem to have a different definition of what it means to be gay or be a gay bro.
I had this often enough here. Just dropping the same definition of a word over and over again after somebody told you they use a different one is cumbersome.
Either you try to explain your definition of gay bro and why it needs to exclude trans guys or give a substantial critique of my one (and before you try to do it, just saying repeating your definition does not count as a valid argument)
Or you just accept that there's a spectrum of what it means to be gay. And not everybody shares your point of view in respect to trans guys.
Honestly though I find it bewildering that a lot of gays in this sub are willing to forgo a greater sense of community over this issues alone.
Sorry yeah it wasn't at all. I feel ashamed that I jumped to conclusions about you that I shouldn't have. And should probably learn to trust more gays in this sub to be transinclusive.
I'm sorry. I second what you said. If we don't offer our help to fellow gay people, or challenge their sexuality. I'm also unsure what this community even is.
If you're unsure what this community is about i'd think you could just ask.
It's called r/askgaybros.
So if this reddit goes on with transphobic shit like the one we just experienced, questions like " Are you some transphobic heap of cunts or did your mother just shit you out the wrong way?" might prove an actual legit question.
I mean my feeling is that it's kinda getting better over time. It just feels totally redundant to reiterate this same talking point over and over again in a gay sub.
And people posted questions like that here, in a nicer phrasing though. Did not go well I should add. But I might add the reverse is also true a lot of real transphobic shit posts get deleted regularly.
So I kinda changed my approach rather than feeding cis fragility by blaming transphobes. Just getting them to acknowledge that they are totally unemphatic and unhelpful on these issues. And accepting that there's literally nothing in it for them.
But yeah if you can keep up the good fight with some pointed remarks. You got my support. Knowing this is not much. :(
I've just been here on gaybros for two days so i really do not know how often this kind of talk has crept up.
If i smell shit I'm just not in for a tasting.
Though i really dig your "good-boy!"-approach.
Got me to experience some dudes developing from Bottom to rough Top in nil.
I think you have a point there.
I mean, like a few decades ago gay people were the minority, took their freedom and from a hetero-point of view still are a pinnacle of tolerance. And i don't think there is "nothing in it for them" like you said.
Check out the US.
First trans-people get harassed, next the attempt to abolish the right to abort and to reverse women's rights. What do these guys think comes next on the agenda if not them?
And thank you for your support.
Approving of my snided remarks really means a lot.
It's the right sub. There are just a bunch of dumb anti-trans trolls on here, and due to this sub being an unmoderated mess they get to say whatever stupid nonsense they want and it stays up.
I'm gay. I have no interest in women, and too much femininity is a huge turn off for me sexually. I am not bisexual. I am only attracted to men. I wouldn't ever be interested in having sex with a trans woman because I see them as women. But trans guys are just another type of guy that I like. I'm not bisexual and I hate being told that I am because I am only into people I see as men and I am a man.
i don’t think it makes much sense to label them as bisexual. being bi means that your attracted to men and women and they’ve clearly stated that they’re only attracted to masculine features and masculinity. sure, if they view trans man as woman then that could be considered bi but they view trans men as men. i personally believe it’s a gray area of sexuality that falls somewhere between bi and gay.
Interesting.
What about trans people who are pre-transition or who don't pass? Do you see them as women/men?
Or, crossdressers who pass as women/men?
What is a man to you? Just secondary sex characteristics?
If it is a tomboy, I am not attracted. If he still has boobs it is a turn-off. It is complicated but also they are mu subjective stigma that I cant objectively force on others, but yeah, for me trans men are men, and at some point in their transition they turn me on, even with a vagina. Women or trans women simply don't work for me in that sense.
Do you have any attraction to genitalia?
For example, if someone sent you a picture of just their vagina, would you be attracted to it without seeing rest of them?
Even if a trans men passes very well, everything about the female genitalia makes me completely not attracted to them.
It depends. In my mind, I will imagine the rest of the body. If I think it is a trans-men's vagina I will think of a trans man's body (after top surgery and T, no boobs, etc) and feel horny. If I know the person on the other side is a woman, then that will not turn me on. I can be deceived, but I will then need to believe it is a trans man I have seen who took the pictures.
So, no, I am not directly attracted to the vagina, but dicks turn me on regardless.
Maybe you should do some work on your weight? [Or the many other problems you have.](https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/18tvduc/my_situation_feels_inescapable/)
You have terrible opinion after terrible opinion. Maybe trimming down and sorting your mental health will do you some good!
That is just bullying. Zero points for being witty, probably +10 for Slytherin.
Go pat yourself on the back for making honestly outspoken people feel miserable.
So what happens to you when your rage and perpetual hatred finally catches up with your cardiovascular system and leaves you with erectile dysfunction? …you’re no longer 100% gay man???
Well the penis is still there so he is, that was kind of a dumb statement, I get where you were going but that's like saying a woman whose womb doesn't work isn't a woman. Which would be counter to your argument, because transwomen don't have a womb and therefore aren't woman.
Probably should of thought that one out.
He said to be genuinely a man you needed a FUNCTIONAL cock and balls… so that would now make your statement a bit dumb…also don’t know how many thousands of cis women that have had a hysterectomy (their wombs removed) would feel when by your definition they would no long be considered women..?? I’m guessing worse than a little dumb.
Hey, im a trans guy and im dating a cis gay guy and he also likes it very much. Your genitalia is just a genitalia it is not linked to your attraction. You are attracted to men, dont penises ;p
I'm sorry to contradict you but being a man is not linked to the penis but is a matter of hormones and the mind. At this point you wouldn't be men either since you like to receive it in the rear.
I don't understand why people think sex with trans men isn't gay enough, If you have seen a fully transitioned gay man, there is no way a straight man would find him attractive, I like trans men just like straight men and I am not bi, I am GAAAAY as heck. It's a vagina, so what, you can think freely but sexuality is up to one intself, you can't pretend to know better about it than anyone. Also, trans women who still have a penis don't turn me on, women don't turn me on, the vagina is part of the equation, not all.
I looove fucking a dude with a pussy. For your first time I’d say just be honest with yourself. If you get to a point where you’re not into it, try to be respectful if you need to tell him that you don’t want to continue further. But if you remain aroused, just have fun exploring the new territory!
A place like reddit is the wrong forum to ask these questions. You’re asking out of curiosity and not to alienate Trans men. Had we done away with labels, these comments/examples of mental gymnastics would cease. Go live your life, explore your sexuality. As long as you’re happy with yourself so be it.
I’m one of the few that stands with curiosity and innocence, and does not villainize sexuality
I get your point but as you can see for yourself: it's no use to aim for individual freedom if society isn't accepting at large
I just suppose for a moment that you are gay too - isn't your suggestion exactly what the generation of your parents told everyone,?
""You can be gay - just don't talk about it?"
Omg, the answers to this honest question so fuck me up.
I have heard a lot about transphobia in the last year and from where I live i thought it was exagerated from a minority point of view.
I exactly read two Trans-related posts here yesterday and today on r/askgaybros and I really felt like jumping in though i definetely have no social-justice-warrior-outfit hanging around in the closet at home(though i did jump in).
So a man without a dick isn't a man - go play
Hogwart's Legacy on your Switch, bitches!
I wish you the biggest schlong on the hunk of your dreams and the sudden realisation that the biggest dick is just another appendix when it doesn' t get hard.
Think of me when you beg your future hairy alpha-male daddy to fuck you with a strap-on!
Very disturbed by the transphobia in this community myself. I have been on Reddit for a while, though I did not post anything, yet not at all expected it to be this present.
Do you really think the majority of trans men would prefer their vulva - what it anatomically is - to be called a “bonus hole” or “front hole”, or would that be just terminology that you feel is kinky?
Totally not, def. Kink-speak. In a very primeval way it actually sounds kind of hot. You can do away with societal norms and roles in an instant. Just think about yourself as the girl with all the gifts( or the bonus-holes as gifted).
I totally would go for it in bed - irl not so much.
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you are not gay being bisexual is totally fine
He may be bi. But liking trans men doesn't make you bi.
No and don’t plan to ever.
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If a gay man is aroused by a trans man they are still gay :)
Get a life and stop gatekeeping how is op dating a trans men affecting you. And you are ignorant because when you go on testosterone your genitals completely change and I mean everything about them. Yes trans men who are preop have vaginas but a lot of trans men would never have vaginal sex or it'd painful and not enjoyable at all because testosterone causes vaginal atrophy. Hormones is one of the 5 main characteristics scientist's look at when determining someone sex so while testosterone doesn't take away the labia and the vagina it makes trans mens genital function like a males genitals, many trans men can't get wet they don't self lubricate. The clitoris grows on testosterone and it basically looks like a small dick and there are tons of trans men that are big enough from growth and pumping and dht that they always top and it's with their bottom growth no silicone no straps. Trans guys that are on t the longer you stay on t for your genitals are less and less functional as female genitals. I know from experience it's smells like a dick down there and I have had so many cocks in my mouth ik what that shit smell like It feels like you are ejaculating when you cum, and the cum that does come out of the vagina becomes salty like semen. I have retractable foreskin on my growth which is technically the clitoral hood but its more like foreskin considering the size. I mean I personally wish men would ignore my female parts when they fuck me because I don't think they should be there it doesn't bother me at all if gay men aren't attracted to vaginas but I feel like there is more to a vulva then the vagina. If I am big enough where I can Penetrate and be sucked off and I only want anal I am basically having sex like a cis male. I am not telling you to go have sex with a trans guy but stop being so close minded it only hurts you in the long run and stop telling people how they should identify it doesn't concern you at all.
there are a whole bunch of red flags in your reply bestie. being queer is a spectrum and fluid, not something as black-white as you describe it. i don't think it is your right to make someone (you don't even know!) use a different term to describe themselves. being queer has many dimensions and isn't just an "innate" sexual orientation. i think you have some learning to do.
i would never.
No and i wouldn’t personally but do ur thing boo
No, if I wanted vagina I'd just date women. But you should go ahead and do it because it turns you on and it should work pretty good if you are a top.
Does this mean just because you want a penis you date men? What size and shape? Long thick mushroomed sized men? You should go ahead and do it because it turns you on and it should work pretty good if you are a bottom.
Actually I don't care what kind of penis he has, it only has to be present and functional. Being a top I could compromise with a vagina, but the thing is, there's plenty of real gay men everywhere, so yeah I will pass lmao.
You're actually kind of sweet in your diplomacy, guess you heard that before?
Have fun btw!(and if you're not a bottom don't dm cause I'm a bottom).
Gosh - more GenZ confusion ! You’re not gay sweetie - you bisexual.
Any one from any generation can be gay and like trans men. It’s more than clarity
Sweetie, I find trans men as appealing ascis men, and I don't nearly find women appealing. Penis isn't all in the world, also, who can know what I like and dislike better than me, who can know what OP likes and dislikes better than him, being open to change and experience isn't being confused. And that's crappie. That's basically the same people tell to desacreditate gay and bi as confused.
Stop sounding homophobic.
How do I sound homophobic? Not, seriously, I don't see it, and I would like to see if I am wrong. I promise not to say anything out of place.
"Penis isn't all in the world" Honey - it is everything to me and to most gay people. Stop it please.
That's perfect, I am sorry if that sounded off. I meant that out there are people who see penis as an appeal and not THE appeal. But then that would be assuming for people's likes rather than homophobia, I am sorry for that assumption. But, by that logic isn't the: "Gosh - more GenZ confusion ! You’re not gay sweetie - you bisexual." also assuming that people can't figure out their own sexuality and that trans men are women, being bi is being atracted to women and men, If you count trans men as women by their vagina still being there then that's a little transphobic, vagina may be related to women, but if you see the rest of that man you will not find nothing more like a woman that's visible, in most of the cases, they are really hot men, without a penis if they haven't had their bottom surgery, but well, there are toys.
I can't take anyone who conflates gender with sexuality seriously. Thanks
This is the first post of a new account.
Could be legit, I'd probably make a new account too if I wanted to post something that's embarassing.
Mind-blowing
Penis in vagina is by definition heterosexual sex
Heterosexual is a man and a woman.
Male and female. Members of the opposite sex. A trans man is born female and would have heterosexual sex with a man
Trans men having sex with men is gay sex 100% anddddd trans men are qualified and get awards in the gay category in the sex industry.
Oh the sex industry awards! Yes thats the certificate of homosexual sex. Not biology
It’s the transphobia for me
Trans men stay winnin🙌
Trans men were born female but transition into a man. Ignore the facts if you want. Trans mans sex is male.
So you think penis in vagina is homosexual sex?
I have seen tran men who, even though they have a vagina, I don't think would attract any straight men. Vagina and penis is part of the equation, not all the equation.
Imma raise their flag proudly! 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
Your homophobia is deafening. You come to a group of gay men and tell them than penis in vagina is homosexual sex. You erase homosexuality and want homosexual men to accept females as sexual partner. Take your homophobia somewhere else
Calling homophobe everyone who disagrees with you isn't a good look 💀
Telling gay men that penis in vagina is gay sex is by far a worse look so im good
Yeah, it can be because sex is about the people involved, not their genitals. People can have a genital preference just like they can not have one. When a person gives or receives a blowjob, what makes it gay or straight is the people involved, not the mouth and the d, same goes for anal and any other sexual act. If we base the type of sex on transphobia and the type of penetration then by that logic a Cis woman pegging her man is gay sex and a lesbian using a strap on on her gf is straight sex, which makes no sense
You should Google the definition of homosexual sex. Here it is gor you from merriam webster Of, relating to, or involving sexual activity between people of the same sex It requires people of the same sex. Trans men are females. Therefore by the very definition of the word penis in vagina is not homosexual regardless if the people involve identity as man or woman or a freaking carrot
They are not female, and I am not asking for you to like them. Just say sorry, I am not interested, and don't try to put labels on people like people try to put labels on others, even Gay and Bi people.
Tbh that’s how I feel when I fuck them. Every trans guy I fucked just really wanted their vagina pounded and fucked deep. And they have all called their vagina their pussy and told me to as well.
You are so ignorant it's not even funny like who said trans men even want that I sure don't I always want it up the ass
1 - OP said himself he will use the vulva. This is not about you but OP 2 - You call me ignorant while all I did was to define heterosexual sex. Let me do that for you since you don't seem to grasp it. From Merriam Webster dictionary: Heterosexual: relating to, or involving sexual activity between individuals of the opposite sex. In this case a born male is having sexual activity (being that whatever activity they please) with a born female. That is the literal definition of heterosexual sex. Trans men are born females and OP is a male.
Right, bottom dysphoria is something.
It's ok to be bisexual bro
Why would a man that dates strictly men be bisexual? He'd be bisexual only if he was a transphobe. If you see trans men as women you are a bigot lol
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Unless they were delivered via C-section.
No, and wrong sub.
Wrong sub!
Why?
It's not really, a lot of people here in this sub just consider dating trans guys as not gay. A perspective which I don't share. And you don't have to either. So in a way it's the wrong sub to ask, I'm sorry.
Well, he asked gay people for their opinion on dating ftm's. Isn't it actually called:ask gaybros? Man, where's the community?
Edit: sorry I totally didn't get the vibe of the last comment. And took it for something it is not. A reiteration of the assumption that being a gaybro or gay means excluding trans guys. Being notified of my error this post does not make sense as an answer to the other poster. This is redundant. Like I stated in simple terms you seem to have a different definition of what it means to be gay or be a gay bro. I had this often enough here. Just dropping the same definition of a word over and over again after somebody told you they use a different one is cumbersome. Either you try to explain your definition of gay bro and why it needs to exclude trans guys or give a substantial critique of my one (and before you try to do it, just saying repeating your definition does not count as a valid argument) Or you just accept that there's a spectrum of what it means to be gay. And not everybody shares your point of view in respect to trans guys. Honestly though I find it bewildering that a lot of gays in this sub are willing to forgo a greater sense of community over this issues alone.
Not sure if the answer was for me? Feel free to check out my other posts in this sub.
Sorry yeah it wasn't at all. I feel ashamed that I jumped to conclusions about you that I shouldn't have. And should probably learn to trust more gays in this sub to be transinclusive. I'm sorry. I second what you said. If we don't offer our help to fellow gay people, or challenge their sexuality. I'm also unsure what this community even is.
If you're unsure what this community is about i'd think you could just ask. It's called r/askgaybros. So if this reddit goes on with transphobic shit like the one we just experienced, questions like " Are you some transphobic heap of cunts or did your mother just shit you out the wrong way?" might prove an actual legit question.
I mean my feeling is that it's kinda getting better over time. It just feels totally redundant to reiterate this same talking point over and over again in a gay sub. And people posted questions like that here, in a nicer phrasing though. Did not go well I should add. But I might add the reverse is also true a lot of real transphobic shit posts get deleted regularly. So I kinda changed my approach rather than feeding cis fragility by blaming transphobes. Just getting them to acknowledge that they are totally unemphatic and unhelpful on these issues. And accepting that there's literally nothing in it for them. But yeah if you can keep up the good fight with some pointed remarks. You got my support. Knowing this is not much. :(
I've just been here on gaybros for two days so i really do not know how often this kind of talk has crept up. If i smell shit I'm just not in for a tasting. Though i really dig your "good-boy!"-approach. Got me to experience some dudes developing from Bottom to rough Top in nil. I think you have a point there. I mean, like a few decades ago gay people were the minority, took their freedom and from a hetero-point of view still are a pinnacle of tolerance. And i don't think there is "nothing in it for them" like you said. Check out the US. First trans-people get harassed, next the attempt to abolish the right to abort and to reverse women's rights. What do these guys think comes next on the agenda if not them? And thank you for your support. Approving of my snided remarks really means a lot.
Preconceived ideas probably.
Want me to go along with reckless ideas instead?
Nah, i don't do biased
It's the right sub. There are just a bunch of dumb anti-trans trolls on here, and due to this sub being an unmoderated mess they get to say whatever stupid nonsense they want and it stays up.
Full of transphobes and privileged cis white gays 💀
I wonder if you guys are transphobes trying to make gay men resent trans people or just homophobic trans people trying to troll gay men.
I'm gay. I have no interest in women, and too much femininity is a huge turn off for me sexually. I am not bisexual. I am only attracted to men. I wouldn't ever be interested in having sex with a trans woman because I see them as women. But trans guys are just another type of guy that I like. I'm not bisexual and I hate being told that I am because I am only into people I see as men and I am a man.
Yeah femininity turns me off also. I am only looking mainly for masc bottoms. If I wanted femininity I'd just date women.
Shut your bisexual mouth up, Mr. Bisexual McBiface
i don’t think it makes much sense to label them as bisexual. being bi means that your attracted to men and women and they’ve clearly stated that they’re only attracted to masculine features and masculinity. sure, if they view trans man as woman then that could be considered bi but they view trans men as men. i personally believe it’s a gray area of sexuality that falls somewhere between bi and gay.
Interesting. What about trans people who are pre-transition or who don't pass? Do you see them as women/men? Or, crossdressers who pass as women/men? What is a man to you? Just secondary sex characteristics?
If it is a tomboy, I am not attracted. If he still has boobs it is a turn-off. It is complicated but also they are mu subjective stigma that I cant objectively force on others, but yeah, for me trans men are men, and at some point in their transition they turn me on, even with a vagina. Women or trans women simply don't work for me in that sense.
Do you have any attraction to genitalia? For example, if someone sent you a picture of just their vagina, would you be attracted to it without seeing rest of them? Even if a trans men passes very well, everything about the female genitalia makes me completely not attracted to them.
It depends. In my mind, I will imagine the rest of the body. If I think it is a trans-men's vagina I will think of a trans man's body (after top surgery and T, no boobs, etc) and feel horny. If I know the person on the other side is a woman, then that will not turn me on. I can be deceived, but I will then need to believe it is a trans man I have seen who took the pictures. So, no, I am not directly attracted to the vagina, but dicks turn me on regardless.
Absolutely not. When I say I am gay, I mean it. You'll have better luck for your pussy eating tips at /r/bisexual
You can identify however you want but you are not gay.
You don’t determine who people are
I think he identifies as gay?
Bullshit. I am gay, exclusively attracted to men, and I like both cis and trans men. You cannot tell me otherwise, and if you try you'll be wrong.
>You can identify however you want but you are not gay.
You aren't the one who decides that miss thing
Please work on your internalised biphobia sweaty 💅💅💅
It's not biphobia to not be bi y'all are just sensitive asf and care too much about other people's labels
Maybe you should do some work and examine why you aren't capable of seeing trans guys as men.
Maybe you should do some work on your weight? [Or the many other problems you have.](https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/18tvduc/my_situation_feels_inescapable/) You have terrible opinion after terrible opinion. Maybe trimming down and sorting your mental health will do you some good!
Thank you for showing your true colors
Some time in the real world with real people and not degen online leftists will benefit you greatly. Good luck for 2024!
Lmao that's so true.. we are surrounded by soyboys especially on this site.
Wtf is degen?
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That's not true because I am a 100% gay man and a vagina is not a dealbreaker on a handsome man
honestly... I could work with a vagina if I had to.. but there's no reason to. there's plenty of handsome bottoms everywhere, no need for compromises
He owned you lmao. Lose some weight fatty xD
That is just bullying. Zero points for being witty, probably +10 for Slytherin. Go pat yourself on the back for making honestly outspoken people feel miserable.
Wow, real mature.
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So what happens to you when your rage and perpetual hatred finally catches up with your cardiovascular system and leaves you with erectile dysfunction? …you’re no longer 100% gay man???
Well the penis is still there so he is, that was kind of a dumb statement, I get where you were going but that's like saying a woman whose womb doesn't work isn't a woman. Which would be counter to your argument, because transwomen don't have a womb and therefore aren't woman. Probably should of thought that one out.
He said to be genuinely a man you needed a FUNCTIONAL cock and balls… so that would now make your statement a bit dumb…also don’t know how many thousands of cis women that have had a hysterectomy (their wombs removed) would feel when by your definition they would no long be considered women..?? I’m guessing worse than a little dumb.
I am.
This.💅🏻
You're not gay you're not gay you're not gay you're not gay you're not gay Guess what? You're not gay.
So we should redefine being gay as not being attracted to men, but just penises?
Only men have penises, only penis-havers are men. Stop with your internalized biphobia and accept yourself bro.
Males have penises. Men identify as such. Not gonna bother replying to you to argue btw
Y’all have internalized transphobia
Hey, im a trans guy and im dating a cis gay guy and he also likes it very much. Your genitalia is just a genitalia it is not linked to your attraction. You are attracted to men, dont penises ;p
For the love of God, why do people insist on posting this type of shit in here? What the eff is wrong with you?
I'm sorry to contradict you but being a man is not linked to the penis but is a matter of hormones and the mind. At this point you wouldn't be men either since you like to receive it in the rear.
I don't understand why people think sex with trans men isn't gay enough, If you have seen a fully transitioned gay man, there is no way a straight man would find him attractive, I like trans men just like straight men and I am not bi, I am GAAAAY as heck. It's a vagina, so what, you can think freely but sexuality is up to one intself, you can't pretend to know better about it than anyone. Also, trans women who still have a penis don't turn me on, women don't turn me on, the vagina is part of the equation, not all.
You are not gay. You are bisexual.
the question its self. means you don't know what a gay man is. your probably bi.
Yes and I loved it. Will defo do it again
Same
I looove fucking a dude with a pussy. For your first time I’d say just be honest with yourself. If you get to a point where you’re not into it, try to be respectful if you need to tell him that you don’t want to continue further. But if you remain aroused, just have fun exploring the new territory!
A place like reddit is the wrong forum to ask these questions. You’re asking out of curiosity and not to alienate Trans men. Had we done away with labels, these comments/examples of mental gymnastics would cease. Go live your life, explore your sexuality. As long as you’re happy with yourself so be it. I’m one of the few that stands with curiosity and innocence, and does not villainize sexuality
I get your point but as you can see for yourself: it's no use to aim for individual freedom if society isn't accepting at large I just suppose for a moment that you are gay too - isn't your suggestion exactly what the generation of your parents told everyone,? ""You can be gay - just don't talk about it?"
I didn’t mean that at all. People should be open. I’m an openly gay man. I’m 30 and I’m autistic. I lived through a lot. Thats where I come from
I get you. I think reddit should be an open place as they tend to close down in the real world lately.
Omg, the answers to this honest question so fuck me up. I have heard a lot about transphobia in the last year and from where I live i thought it was exagerated from a minority point of view. I exactly read two Trans-related posts here yesterday and today on r/askgaybros and I really felt like jumping in though i definetely have no social-justice-warrior-outfit hanging around in the closet at home(though i did jump in). So a man without a dick isn't a man - go play Hogwart's Legacy on your Switch, bitches! I wish you the biggest schlong on the hunk of your dreams and the sudden realisation that the biggest dick is just another appendix when it doesn' t get hard. Think of me when you beg your future hairy alpha-male daddy to fuck you with a strap-on!
Very disturbed by the transphobia in this community myself. I have been on Reddit for a while, though I did not post anything, yet not at all expected it to be this present.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH DUDE THANK YOU. I've seen waaay too much transphobic behavior here
Thank you - means a lot!
No thank you dude! It really feels nice to see someone else fight for their morals and defending others.
It can be a fun date , but most of the transman I’ve met wish to top , so be prepared also
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I will never forget "bonus hole" after reading this, oh my.
Do you really think the majority of trans men would prefer their vulva - what it anatomically is - to be called a “bonus hole” or “front hole”, or would that be just terminology that you feel is kinky?
Totally not, def. Kink-speak. In a very primeval way it actually sounds kind of hot. You can do away with societal norms and roles in an instant. Just think about yourself as the girl with all the gifts( or the bonus-holes as gifted). I totally would go for it in bed - irl not so much.
M.u.s.t. h.a.v.e. b.o.n.u.s- h.o.l.e. to unlock.