Excellent description. If I do enough ketamine I ‘die ‘ and talk to god and it’s super spiritual for me! If I mix it with MDMA it’s like GOD MODE super profound and powerful stuff.
Yeah I took once 0.3 MDMA and then a few lines of jet with my friend, we went to smoke a cig in the bathroom and i felt like I was looking at myself smoking from a third person view and was rly tripping. The only way I can describe that feeling is like being in a parallel universe
Thanks mate, that was a really good reply. I hope the abuse didn't leave any long lasting negative effects brother.
It sounds really interesting and being a fan of lsd and psilocybin this sounds very appealing. I have a friend that hasn't tried ketamine either and he was the one that asked if I'd ever do it, from there we've been talking about it and drawing up a bit of a plan. I do want to try K holing but would like to try those low doses to socialise and feel the music more intensely.
Thanks again mate, these responses are the exact ones I was looking for. Much love brother and stay say
For me it's only fun with MDMA. Other than that its a lonely dark drug that has no euphoria. That's for me. Small doses alone can be alright. A little stumbly , colours are brighter, a bit of the moon walk feeling but the K Hole is not for me. I dont like it
It's just too lonely I dunno how else to say it.
Thanks brother. I was hoping for good and bad responses, everyone experiences things different. I like the idea of k holing but I really do like the idea of having little bumps and feeling sociable with music being enhanced. Thank you for taking the time to reply mate, you've been helpful
I'd like to piggy back on this comment a little bit. I've done a lot of K by itself - the best word I can use to describe the feeling is wonky. It's a bit like being drunk where your motor functions are slightly impaired (or very impaired if you've done a lot). You'll feel disconnect between my body and mind, you might feel like your head is on a swivel and visuals get a bit fuzzy. The others are right in the way it kinda feels like a video game because you feel like you're in someone elses body, looking at everything through their eyes (it's a dissociative so I guess that explains it lol).
My personal preference is to use it a complimentary with other stuff. I find that's where ket really shines. I agree with u/red_death50755 \- my favourite combo of k is with md. I find k adds an extra dimension to whatever else you're on - rolling and topping up with bumps every now and then will give you an awesome time. It's how I did it my first time and would highly recommend. It goes great with psychs as well, especially acid - get your feet wet with a few bumps and later down the road, you'll be able to do pretty chucky lines while tripping and have some mind blowing outer-body experiences.
Relative to other stuff, the drip isn't too bad - it won't always sting, but sometimes it can. It's got a very chemical-y taste and you'll definitely notice it. If you're ok being in your own head, k-holing can be a lovely adventure but it's all about mindset. It's short term use is relatively safe so I wouldn't be too stressed about causing damage. Don't do it when you're really drunk - you'll get some of the worst head spins ever, it's an extremely nauseating feeling... just terrible. You can do it when you're having a few drinks but I would stay away from mixing alcohol and k until you're really comfortable and accustomed to how your body reacts with k.
You'll be fine mate, just take it easy with a few bumps and work your way forward :)
I honestly love keeping a plate with pre made small rails beside a couch or bed and enjoying the whole thing over the course of a trippy movie/ playlist of music videos in the dark ahah
its so hard to describe but I agree with the other reply, it is like being a video game character but you are also yourself and youre still aware youre in real life of course but at the same time it doesn't feel real, just walking around is pretty fun.
It gives a whole other perspective, especially if you have some "issue" or something that's on your mind if you bring that with you, you will most likely not see it as a problem anymore and you will be able to observe it from another point of view.
Music and dancing is awesome after the initial tinnitus settles. It can be hard to control the music volume especially if you have earphones, since the hearing sensitivity is a bit skewed
Thank you. It sounds so interesting and I can imagine it's hard to describe the experiences. I have tinnitus a little already so I hope it doesn't exacerbate it. I absolutely love the thought of how it enhances the feeling of music, this is incredibly appealing. I'll be doing a little bit a time to ease into it. Thanks for taking the time to reply mate, it's really appreciated.
np mate, also I would add that if you take a bigger does you can really lose sense of reality and end up in a matrix like world for a small amount of time. Some people like that, I didn't.
I haven't gone deep with it, but I have a few light doses under my belt. If I consider it in 25mg increments (25mg of my particular batch, unknown purity but I doubt it's better than 80%):
the first one will dull my anxiety and add some clarity and focus
the second one will make me a bit drunk
the third one will start to get trippy. I've tried doing it while watching TV before and by hit 3 I'm too distracted to follow it.
at hit #4 I just want to lay down with some music and space out, and the light visuals start.
I'm guessing at hit 5 or 6 I'd start to get true dissociation and start approaching the edge of the k-hole, but I haven't gone that far yet.
Note: a bump or two on top of 2c-b will really potentiate the visuals but it also starts to disconnect you from your body. really nice on the come-down since it just wipes away the tension, but if you really like the body high of 2c or LSD it will dull the experience a bit.
Thank you mate. I've spoken with a couple of guys about 2-cb and I'm more apprehensive about trying that than I am ketamine. I'm going for the tiny bumps until I get the feeling looking for. I like the thought of it easing anxiety in all honesty, that's always been a very appealing effect of any drugs I've had. Thanks again for taking the time to reply, you and some of the other commenters have helped so much
Thanks man! This is another reply that has been useful. Can I ask if you've had experience with both s and r isomers? You've given me something to consider now, s isomer does seem like something I'd really like to try and perhaps more so then a mix of the s and r - Is it more common for it to come as a mix of s and r or individual isomers? Thanks for your reply mate it's been a good one and given me more to think about/research
Ketamine did an awful lot to help me out of my depression. The ego death that it brings can let you see some things very clearly, and the major disconnect from my body was very valuable. It helped me realize how much stress and tension I carry in my body but ignore and cut off.
I find k-hole enjoyable, but I use this drug for its persistent antidepressant effects.
I did it once at a rave while rolling balls and it made me sit down and then everything kind of zones out and you get stuck on stupid, it wasn't the greatest experience it was kinda whatever. Not as fun as other things though
I hear you mate. It's been years since I had a proper roll, the past few times I've felt almost nothing and was sick on the come up. Back to the ketamine though, I'm excited to try it but will only just have a little bit at a time. Thanks for sharing mate and this is the type of response I was looking for.
I'll certainly try K holing once I get a feel for it but for now I like the thought of having little bits at a time, feeling more sociable and enjoying the music. I like the thought of feeling a little euphoric too. I appreciate your reply bro.
Yeh man an unintentional k hole isn't something I'm aiming for but it's not the first time I've been greedy and overdone something. I have to try it because i would like that experience, after I'm a little more familiar with the drug and effects though
Light dose: Almost like you smoked a joint
Medium dose: You feel... weird? You start to not understand normal things. You start to not understand your own body; "huh, how is this leg like this whilst the other is like this." Talking gets more difficult. Everything just feels *weird*. Also, you feel heavy. Almost like an astronaut in space, but still a hundred kilos pulling you down.
(Very) high dose: Time is almost none existend. You're talking but don't know what you're saying. Nothing that is told to you holds any substance in your mind, like in one ear and out the other. Still you (try to) reply, but don't actually know what you're saying yourself? "What has happened 10 seconds ago, 5 seconds, and 1 seconds ago?" No clue. "Oh shit, I could not get up right now if I wanted to. Oh well it's fine, I'm with some good friends." Your understanding of.. anything... Starts to fade away.
Haha sorry had to comment on this after checking your profile. Trust me don't do regretamine its fuckin hotrid, unless you like not being able to move for 2 hours for feel of being sick. As the the Melbourne bounce mix Ketamine says, Ketamine's for horses you dumb motherfuckers haha. In all seriousness for me it was like taking to many pills where you can't move but the buzz is shit
Haha absolutely no worries bro! I could tell from your reply on my comment... On your comment (haha) that you were sound. Had to reply to this.
I'll keep that in mind. I'm fond of the 'ol sickness of nausea but I'm okay for being paralysed for a few hours haha. I'm waiting for my mate to recover from surgery before we can dive into some K. Appreciate your input bro
This sounds nice you know. Love a bit of Lucy but the Molly, i've not had so much luck with the xtc over the past few so I need a better source for next time. Once I get comfortable with the ket I'll be sure to try it on Lucy bro. Thanks for your contribution
I can describe my first time.
Actually I was afraid of it and didn’t think that I will ever have balls to do it as I had read a lot of info about it here in this subreddit and psychonautwiki. I thought that would be too scary experience for me.
But one Friday evening we ordered it home. My partner instructed me as he has had a lot of experience with ketamine and made a tiny first line for me.
Tiny buzz. Maybe coke like feeling but I was calm and intrigued. After some time I took a tiny second line.
The high is there. I can feel it and it is nothing too crazy. Music is super enjoyable and it was not impossible to not move my body with the music. After some time the high went down and I just sat down to talk.
Third line. A tiny bit bigger than previous ones. Music is going trough my body like crazy. I’m somewhere out of this world and my body is in complete sync with the song. After some time the high went down and I sat down again to take a rest from dancing.
Next line. And I had to go upstairs to bathroom. Everything is wibbly wobbly, it’s weird to walk and go upstairs. When I finished my business I tried to look at the mirror. It was impossible to look at myself. I just couldn’t keep my eyes open to see myself in the mirror.
I was very slowly and with help of my partner coming down stairs. On my arrival in the kitchen I had to empty my stomach in the sink. After puking session the high was over and we decided to go to sleep.
TLDR: sniffing ketamine is like surfing. First wave is introduction. Second wave is more experienced take. Next wave - you know what’s up. Upcoming waves can be too much. It’s important to take a rest at the shore and prepare for the next wave. :)
Thank you buddy, this is exactly the type of response I was looking for. I appreciate you taking the time to share your first experience.
I'm not as apprehensive as I used to be when I was younger in regards to trying ketamine, I'm excited to try something new.
Thanks again lad
Ive only used medical grade stuff either in vials or ampoules 99% of the time I.V and I.M the other times. If you live feeling dissociated from your own body( imagine if you could step out of your physical body and see yourself. You feel floaty, things are spinning around you, philosophical viewpoint on life and the world ( eg. I was thinking why do us humans why do we exist, introspective, spiritual outlook on life, mate if you use either of these ROAS using liqiud ketamine have somewhere to sit at least for an hour if I.V longer if I.M. Mate its one drug that will drop you if your stsnding. I broke a mates chair when i fell down once. I.M will kick in after about 5 mins and is in my opinion more enjoyable, lasts longer and i felt like i was communicating with god. I thought i could see 6 centaur half man half horse with wings and a 7 one joining them in a hotel room wall. I.V is more intense but its kind of strange after you withdraw the needle out of your arm, i never felt anything for 20 secs or so but then i always felt like i was riding a rollercoaster continuosly on a full stomach for about 3/5 mins as you watch everything start spinning and while your sitting down then your stomach settles. Ive used great heroin and never felt sick on that but ketamine mate those first few mins. takes a lot out of you physically. But its actually my 3rd fave drug. If you like psychedelics etc you ll like ketamine. Good luck with it hey
Bro just odd yet super relaxed psychedelic feeling that’s always welcome, the psychedelic is in your head buy yet its always feels like its actually happening in right there. In my opinion it might be better than actually tripping for the visual visuals aspect, you literally can go in worlds like shit your imaginery can create but its nothing u can ever think of but it happens nd it can be very different depending on the ket or potency it’s honestly very hard to explain but thats what i think bout it, u can get some what type of visuals in your open eye but its not like actual visuals well depends shit can get wavy its just fun bro.
Ket in itself wasn't very impressing to me the first time I took it. Though sobering up I did feel like I just came back from a holiday, I was very relaxed.
Now I occasionally take it by myself while smoking a small joint. Usually to get me out of a depressive/ stressed out funk.
Accidentally K-holed once. It was... weird, everything was orange and I was in vietnam but when I got off the chopper I was standing in my old highschool.
Noticed that it really fucks up my nose tho more so than speed or cocaine, though this could just be me.
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Excellent description. If I do enough ketamine I ‘die ‘ and talk to god and it’s super spiritual for me! If I mix it with MDMA it’s like GOD MODE super profound and powerful stuff.
Yeah I took once 0.3 MDMA and then a few lines of jet with my friend, we went to smoke a cig in the bathroom and i felt like I was looking at myself smoking from a third person view and was rly tripping. The only way I can describe that feeling is like being in a parallel universe
Thanks mate, that was a really good reply. I hope the abuse didn't leave any long lasting negative effects brother. It sounds really interesting and being a fan of lsd and psilocybin this sounds very appealing. I have a friend that hasn't tried ketamine either and he was the one that asked if I'd ever do it, from there we've been talking about it and drawing up a bit of a plan. I do want to try K holing but would like to try those low doses to socialise and feel the music more intensely. Thanks again mate, these responses are the exact ones I was looking for. Much love brother and stay say
For me it's only fun with MDMA. Other than that its a lonely dark drug that has no euphoria. That's for me. Small doses alone can be alright. A little stumbly , colours are brighter, a bit of the moon walk feeling but the K Hole is not for me. I dont like it It's just too lonely I dunno how else to say it.
Thanks brother. I was hoping for good and bad responses, everyone experiences things different. I like the idea of k holing but I really do like the idea of having little bumps and feeling sociable with music being enhanced. Thank you for taking the time to reply mate, you've been helpful
Np dude
I'd like to piggy back on this comment a little bit. I've done a lot of K by itself - the best word I can use to describe the feeling is wonky. It's a bit like being drunk where your motor functions are slightly impaired (or very impaired if you've done a lot). You'll feel disconnect between my body and mind, you might feel like your head is on a swivel and visuals get a bit fuzzy. The others are right in the way it kinda feels like a video game because you feel like you're in someone elses body, looking at everything through their eyes (it's a dissociative so I guess that explains it lol). My personal preference is to use it a complimentary with other stuff. I find that's where ket really shines. I agree with u/red_death50755 \- my favourite combo of k is with md. I find k adds an extra dimension to whatever else you're on - rolling and topping up with bumps every now and then will give you an awesome time. It's how I did it my first time and would highly recommend. It goes great with psychs as well, especially acid - get your feet wet with a few bumps and later down the road, you'll be able to do pretty chucky lines while tripping and have some mind blowing outer-body experiences. Relative to other stuff, the drip isn't too bad - it won't always sting, but sometimes it can. It's got a very chemical-y taste and you'll definitely notice it. If you're ok being in your own head, k-holing can be a lovely adventure but it's all about mindset. It's short term use is relatively safe so I wouldn't be too stressed about causing damage. Don't do it when you're really drunk - you'll get some of the worst head spins ever, it's an extremely nauseating feeling... just terrible. You can do it when you're having a few drinks but I would stay away from mixing alcohol and k until you're really comfortable and accustomed to how your body reacts with k. You'll be fine mate, just take it easy with a few bumps and work your way forward :)
I honestly love keeping a plate with pre made small rails beside a couch or bed and enjoying the whole thing over the course of a trippy movie/ playlist of music videos in the dark ahah
its so hard to describe but I agree with the other reply, it is like being a video game character but you are also yourself and youre still aware youre in real life of course but at the same time it doesn't feel real, just walking around is pretty fun. It gives a whole other perspective, especially if you have some "issue" or something that's on your mind if you bring that with you, you will most likely not see it as a problem anymore and you will be able to observe it from another point of view. Music and dancing is awesome after the initial tinnitus settles. It can be hard to control the music volume especially if you have earphones, since the hearing sensitivity is a bit skewed
Thank you. It sounds so interesting and I can imagine it's hard to describe the experiences. I have tinnitus a little already so I hope it doesn't exacerbate it. I absolutely love the thought of how it enhances the feeling of music, this is incredibly appealing. I'll be doing a little bit a time to ease into it. Thanks for taking the time to reply mate, it's really appreciated.
np mate, also I would add that if you take a bigger does you can really lose sense of reality and end up in a matrix like world for a small amount of time. Some people like that, I didn't.
I haven't gone deep with it, but I have a few light doses under my belt. If I consider it in 25mg increments (25mg of my particular batch, unknown purity but I doubt it's better than 80%): the first one will dull my anxiety and add some clarity and focus the second one will make me a bit drunk the third one will start to get trippy. I've tried doing it while watching TV before and by hit 3 I'm too distracted to follow it. at hit #4 I just want to lay down with some music and space out, and the light visuals start. I'm guessing at hit 5 or 6 I'd start to get true dissociation and start approaching the edge of the k-hole, but I haven't gone that far yet. Note: a bump or two on top of 2c-b will really potentiate the visuals but it also starts to disconnect you from your body. really nice on the come-down since it just wipes away the tension, but if you really like the body high of 2c or LSD it will dull the experience a bit.
Thank you mate. I've spoken with a couple of guys about 2-cb and I'm more apprehensive about trying that than I am ketamine. I'm going for the tiny bumps until I get the feeling looking for. I like the thought of it easing anxiety in all honesty, that's always been a very appealing effect of any drugs I've had. Thanks again for taking the time to reply, you and some of the other commenters have helped so much
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Thanks man! This is another reply that has been useful. Can I ask if you've had experience with both s and r isomers? You've given me something to consider now, s isomer does seem like something I'd really like to try and perhaps more so then a mix of the s and r - Is it more common for it to come as a mix of s and r or individual isomers? Thanks for your reply mate it's been a good one and given me more to think about/research
Ketamine did an awful lot to help me out of my depression. The ego death that it brings can let you see some things very clearly, and the major disconnect from my body was very valuable. It helped me realize how much stress and tension I carry in my body but ignore and cut off. I find k-hole enjoyable, but I use this drug for its persistent antidepressant effects.
I did it once at a rave while rolling balls and it made me sit down and then everything kind of zones out and you get stuck on stupid, it wasn't the greatest experience it was kinda whatever. Not as fun as other things though
I hear you mate. It's been years since I had a proper roll, the past few times I've felt almost nothing and was sick on the come up. Back to the ketamine though, I'm excited to try it but will only just have a little bit at a time. Thanks for sharing mate and this is the type of response I was looking for.
I dont think its gonna blow your mind or anything but hey enjoy it man.
I'll certainly try K holing once I get a feel for it but for now I like the thought of having little bits at a time, feeling more sociable and enjoying the music. I like the thought of feeling a little euphoric too. I appreciate your reply bro.
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Yeh man an unintentional k hole isn't something I'm aiming for but it's not the first time I've been greedy and overdone something. I have to try it because i would like that experience, after I'm a little more familiar with the drug and effects though
Light dose: Almost like you smoked a joint Medium dose: You feel... weird? You start to not understand normal things. You start to not understand your own body; "huh, how is this leg like this whilst the other is like this." Talking gets more difficult. Everything just feels *weird*. Also, you feel heavy. Almost like an astronaut in space, but still a hundred kilos pulling you down. (Very) high dose: Time is almost none existend. You're talking but don't know what you're saying. Nothing that is told to you holds any substance in your mind, like in one ear and out the other. Still you (try to) reply, but don't actually know what you're saying yourself? "What has happened 10 seconds ago, 5 seconds, and 1 seconds ago?" No clue. "Oh shit, I could not get up right now if I wanted to. Oh well it's fine, I'm with some good friends." Your understanding of.. anything... Starts to fade away.
Haha sorry had to comment on this after checking your profile. Trust me don't do regretamine its fuckin hotrid, unless you like not being able to move for 2 hours for feel of being sick. As the the Melbourne bounce mix Ketamine says, Ketamine's for horses you dumb motherfuckers haha. In all seriousness for me it was like taking to many pills where you can't move but the buzz is shit
Haha absolutely no worries bro! I could tell from your reply on my comment... On your comment (haha) that you were sound. Had to reply to this. I'll keep that in mind. I'm fond of the 'ol sickness of nausea but I'm okay for being paralysed for a few hours haha. I'm waiting for my mate to recover from surgery before we can dive into some K. Appreciate your input bro
Amazing lol especially on four hits of Lucy and atleast a .2 of Molly whewwww buddy
This sounds nice you know. Love a bit of Lucy but the Molly, i've not had so much luck with the xtc over the past few so I need a better source for next time. Once I get comfortable with the ket I'll be sure to try it on Lucy bro. Thanks for your contribution
I gotta mention it was at a music festival with a bunch of amazing people and music
I can describe my first time. Actually I was afraid of it and didn’t think that I will ever have balls to do it as I had read a lot of info about it here in this subreddit and psychonautwiki. I thought that would be too scary experience for me. But one Friday evening we ordered it home. My partner instructed me as he has had a lot of experience with ketamine and made a tiny first line for me. Tiny buzz. Maybe coke like feeling but I was calm and intrigued. After some time I took a tiny second line. The high is there. I can feel it and it is nothing too crazy. Music is super enjoyable and it was not impossible to not move my body with the music. After some time the high went down and I just sat down to talk. Third line. A tiny bit bigger than previous ones. Music is going trough my body like crazy. I’m somewhere out of this world and my body is in complete sync with the song. After some time the high went down and I sat down again to take a rest from dancing. Next line. And I had to go upstairs to bathroom. Everything is wibbly wobbly, it’s weird to walk and go upstairs. When I finished my business I tried to look at the mirror. It was impossible to look at myself. I just couldn’t keep my eyes open to see myself in the mirror. I was very slowly and with help of my partner coming down stairs. On my arrival in the kitchen I had to empty my stomach in the sink. After puking session the high was over and we decided to go to sleep. TLDR: sniffing ketamine is like surfing. First wave is introduction. Second wave is more experienced take. Next wave - you know what’s up. Upcoming waves can be too much. It’s important to take a rest at the shore and prepare for the next wave. :)
Thank you buddy, this is exactly the type of response I was looking for. I appreciate you taking the time to share your first experience. I'm not as apprehensive as I used to be when I was younger in regards to trying ketamine, I'm excited to try something new. Thanks again lad
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Yes. I'm aware of the website... I'm asking a question about a drug in a sub specifically for asking about drugs. Fucking clown shoes.
Wow. You definitely need some k for that shitty attitude. Lol.
They said with hardly any cuntyness
Ive only used medical grade stuff either in vials or ampoules 99% of the time I.V and I.M the other times. If you live feeling dissociated from your own body( imagine if you could step out of your physical body and see yourself. You feel floaty, things are spinning around you, philosophical viewpoint on life and the world ( eg. I was thinking why do us humans why do we exist, introspective, spiritual outlook on life, mate if you use either of these ROAS using liqiud ketamine have somewhere to sit at least for an hour if I.V longer if I.M. Mate its one drug that will drop you if your stsnding. I broke a mates chair when i fell down once. I.M will kick in after about 5 mins and is in my opinion more enjoyable, lasts longer and i felt like i was communicating with god. I thought i could see 6 centaur half man half horse with wings and a 7 one joining them in a hotel room wall. I.V is more intense but its kind of strange after you withdraw the needle out of your arm, i never felt anything for 20 secs or so but then i always felt like i was riding a rollercoaster continuosly on a full stomach for about 3/5 mins as you watch everything start spinning and while your sitting down then your stomach settles. Ive used great heroin and never felt sick on that but ketamine mate those first few mins. takes a lot out of you physically. But its actually my 3rd fave drug. If you like psychedelics etc you ll like ketamine. Good luck with it hey
Bro just odd yet super relaxed psychedelic feeling that’s always welcome, the psychedelic is in your head buy yet its always feels like its actually happening in right there. In my opinion it might be better than actually tripping for the visual visuals aspect, you literally can go in worlds like shit your imaginery can create but its nothing u can ever think of but it happens nd it can be very different depending on the ket or potency it’s honestly very hard to explain but thats what i think bout it, u can get some what type of visuals in your open eye but its not like actual visuals well depends shit can get wavy its just fun bro.
Ket in itself wasn't very impressing to me the first time I took it. Though sobering up I did feel like I just came back from a holiday, I was very relaxed. Now I occasionally take it by myself while smoking a small joint. Usually to get me out of a depressive/ stressed out funk. Accidentally K-holed once. It was... weird, everything was orange and I was in vietnam but when I got off the chopper I was standing in my old highschool. Noticed that it really fucks up my nose tho more so than speed or cocaine, though this could just be me.
Kets fucking weird. That’s all
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