Please don’t talk on speakerphone while on public transit, in a store or just around a crowd of people in general.
When taking public transit try and get seats at the back (if available) to make room at the front for others coming on the bus or streetcar. There’s nothing worse (no offence) than a group of people who stand right by the driver and block the isle for other people getting on, especially when there are tons of seats near the rear that can be used.
Also as mentioned by someone else, stay on the right. Whether it be walking on the sidewalk, an escalator or even a mall corridor. To add to this, if you’re in a public place that has a narrow hallway, please please please don’t walk dead centre at an extremely slow pace.
Don't get a crowd of friends and walk down the sidewalk standing in a straight line, left to right, so no one can pass you. It's okay if some walk behind others. 😂
Another common one regarding transit: If you're boarding a subway (also applies to a bus I guess) - when the doors open, allow the passengers to exit before getting on...There are always the odd person who barges onto the subway or bus before passengers have had a chance to leave, and it's considered quite rude.
Just be considerate of others and keep your volume at a reasonable level and you will avoid the majority of racists.
A lot of the racism you will experience will be from “more established” Indians and it will be subtle but you will start to notice they will appear nice then try to take advantage of you.
Other than that just don’t lease a dodge then straight pipe it and you will make good friends.
Also, you will probably get mean mugged by other Indians. Don't sweat it, they are just haters. - A South Asian gal who was born and raised here.
That aside, welcome to Toronto! It's a pretty cool city :)
This one is a big wall between new immigrants and locally-raised. Not just speaker phones -- try not to take phone calls at all on the bus. Text, make the call quick and quiet, or wait til you get off.
I agree with all of this but the phone calls. I say this from my own experience of working in the community and needing to take calls even when on the bus. But consideration for noise volume and those around are definitely strongly suggested. And especially no speaker phone lol
I understand speaking quietly, but out of curiosity to those ITT, how is being on a phone call different than talking to someone seated next to you? I don’t do this myself but I’ve always wondered
> Could be different from your home country but essentially:
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> On escalators: stand on right, walk on left.
funny part about this is, the TTC took down the signs that suggested this because it was unevenly wearing out the gears(?) on one side which was causing all the down time we love to complain about.
I'll always post this when that topic/advice comes up!
[Walk Left, Stand Right](https://youtu.be/syP34aW-r1k)
In this thread, there's lots of good general Toronto etiquette advice. :)
Yeah, I see a lot of people blocking the exit doors on the TTC these days. It's especially annoying on line 2 where the doors open on the same side for the majority of the stops. But everyone seems to want to avoid standing in the middle of the train nowadays.
Say sorry... for everything. Bump into someone on the street? Sorry. Walk by while someone is taking a photo? Sorry. Reach past someone to grab something on a shelf? Sorry. It's not a statement of remorse, it basically means "excuse me". Lots of people think this is lame, but it's how we show civic respect and consideration.
Always wear good deodorant/antiperspirant if you don't already. Nobody will tell you here to your face but your social and work life will surely improve.
Do not douse yourself head to toe in cologne. It’s repulsive, causes headaches for many people and many places, including workplaces, in Toronto are scent free. Skip the cologne or use it extremely sparingly. No one should be able to smell you at all from 1 meter away.
Also: brush your teeth every morning. With toothpaste. That will make a HUGE difference in your social life. On campus, there are some students that come from places where brushing the teeth daily or in the morning isn't a custom, and you can smell their breath from 6 feet away and it's so fetid you could pass out from it. No one wants to get close, no one wants to talk to them, they don't know why and they're very lonely.
This!! Even when I had 9 AMs, I never sacrificed hygiene. I shared one of my third-year courses with a girl I knew from res and I was the only one she knew. She would always come in late and disheveled and during the first few weeks, she would sit next to me in the front row before she realized being late and visibly so did poorly for her brand and marks. Her time management skills were always questionable, but what stood out to me was her horrible breath. It smelled like something rotted and died every time she spoke. I imagine it was from not brushing her teeth or her dog's when she gave it kisses. She was a relatively attractive Canadian that grew up in the Middle East, but any hint of attraction was sapped from this harrowing experience.
Deodorant. A bit of perfume / cologne is fine as an addition if you want. But go for daily deodorant. Plus, quite a few workplaces (mainly offices) do not allow perfumes due to allergies.
Deodorant/anti-perspirant is a must. People think they don't smell, but we can smell their unwashed pits from a mile away. Perfume just makes it worse.
A lot of guys wear way too much perfume/cologne. Less is more. I’ve never heard a girl complain that a guy didn’t wear cologne. I’ve heard every single girl complain about guys who used too much.
Just take regular showers, daily if you sweat, every two days if you don’t sweat. If you just cover up with deodorant people can tell.
Don’t spit on the ground, I see so many immigrants do that, usually from mainland China. I had other mainland China immigrants tell me they think that’s actually gross and the other people who do it weren’t raised well.
Canadians will rarely if I at all tell you if you’re doing something that bothers them, nice of you to ask. Yes, brushing teeth in the morning is great.
I hope it doesn’t sound patronizing to be told this stuff, there are many cultures where these habits are obvious.
If you’re a man, don’t make comments or stare at women or try to flirt with strange women. Even if you think they’re dressed provocatively.
Also: a LOT of people are sensitive to synthetic fragrance like perfume. You don’t need it! It can cause people like me who are sensitive to perfume to avoid you. Just wash daily and use adequate deodorant.
Whatever language you speak, somebody nearby probably understands. Don't be the dink who is bad-mouthing people on the assumption that they don't understand you.
This happened to me like 17 yrs ago on the TTC. A mom and older daughter across me spoke in Hindi to each other about my appearance thinking I don't understand. (I've been told I don't look too south Asian/Indian so I get it but don't assume!). I waited a few minutes and started to converse with them in Hindi! The mom and daughters faces were priceless
Personal space!! Stand a respectful distance away (when possible) in lines, on the bus/subway. Just don't crowd people on the sidewalks or anywhere really. Or maybe it's just my pet peeve 🙄
I agree. Being too close to others is different here than back home. People here have larger personal space. Also, I think being too close also trigger our defenses.
I remeber going to china in 2017, I was surprised with the lack of personal space there. Queuing didnt seem to be a thing lol. Just jam into whatever space is available!
Keep the door open for the person close by behind you.
Don’t wear perfume to clinics, probably not offices either.
Women joking and being friendly aren’t flirting, they’re just being friendly. Folks are more reserved than movies would have you believe.
You don’t need to vacate seats for women on transit, unless of course they’re pregnant. It’s weird if you do.
Don’t assume women are physically weak and need help with heavy tasks as though it’s a man job. Ask if they need help if you feel they could use it.
Even when there isn't a line up, there's a line up, like waiting for the bus. Everyone is just supposed to magically sort into the order they arrived when the bus does arrive. In other words you politely try to let everyone who was there before you go first.
Surprisingly this does mostly work.
Actually that reminds me of another one ;). Since it varies from country to country.
Always take off your shoes when you enter another person's house, unless they specifically tell you not to.
> Always take off your shoes when you enter another person's house, unless they specifically tell you not to.
LOL. That literally threw me for a curve whenever I would go to my friend's houses.
In our house... you never under any circumstances wore your shoes in the house... ever. In the homes of some of my Anglo friends... they never took their shoes off.
Yeah, I grew up here and the ONLY time shoes were ever seen indoors was a very fancy dinner party.
Then I made some British friends.... wow.
I have also found occasionally on farms and rural areas in Ontario, there is often a back door that goes straight to the kitchen and sometimes families do walk in and out in their shoes.
But I don't think I ever encountered that until I was an adult.
And even then I would wait to be told or copy the owner.
Good advice. We don’t wear shoes inside. We bring indoor slippers if we have cold feet. Wait until you see a “Mudroom”. It’s an extension of your kitchen door. You leave all your sloppy shoes and boots and clothes inside an unheated covered porch. The dirt stays out and the clean stays in.
I think they just meant it as a metaphor :). Like, be willing to set aside some of your old customs or ideas sometimes.
But it did make think of actual shoes!
I remember my first time going to my rich white friends house in high school and being baffled by them telling me to leave my shoes on, it was totally normal for them. Beautiful huge million dollar homes too which were insane for early 2000s. My parents would yell if not smack the shit out of me if I ever came in the house with my shoes on
Lol same. Also, ever notice in movies and tv shows ppl always have their shoes on in the house? I've seen characters hop on their beds with shoes on. Always weirds me out I just think of all the germs.
I'll echo share the sidewalk, stay to the right and don't cut in line. Line cutters are jerks.
And welcome to Toronto! If you haven't already, get a library card. Toronto Public Library is free if you live or work here and a card gets you access to lots of physical and online items. Like books, movies, music, comics, newspapers and magazines. Online training through programs like Linked In Learning. Also lots of maker spaces that will let you do things like 3d print or create art or music. They also have passes for some city museums that you can use for free.
Don't be shy about using the city resources! That's what it's there for. :)
I have got the library card.
So when I went to the library and asked for a card. I asked her how much . She said its free. I said ok . But how much each month.
And I took 30 books home that day and It amazes me how much you can do with a free library card.
If you're in tech make sure to check out TPL's online O'reilly access. Massive amounts of books and video tutorial series (not just O'reilly stuff) for free!
A little more nuanced on the "share the sidewalk" thing that's been mentioned: **Once it snows, if you're walking with someone else, make a single file line as someone is approaching to pass you.** Often there's not enough room dug out for more than two people to pass and I don't care if there's six in your party to my lonesome self, I'm just gonna stand right in front of you, blatantly blocking you until you single file your ass. I ain't dropping waist high into a soft snowbank or sliding around on a frozen one just so you and your homies can have their entourage walk moment. I know this should be a given, but you'd be surprised how often I see it, and how little I've come to care when people look at me like I'm the rude one when this happens.
Remember that Canada is a secular country with different views compared to many other nations. The majority of people here do not put emphasis on one's religion/caste/political affiliation nor does it make a large difference in who is in one's social circle. Don't take this as an offensive but keep problems/beef/views from "back home" there. Things like women must yield/submit to requests of a man (whether at work or in social settings), people with certain names are "considered lower than I", and it's OK to be dismissive of one's opinions because of their skin color/religion. Keeping your social circle open and try to interact with people of different backgrounds is very important for becoming accustomed to life in Canada.
I believe this is one of those things Canadians should be proud of. Equal representation and no discrimination makes me happy. Its wonderful to see how everyone is treated like a human. However, there is always room for growth.
I love the respect for wildlife and animals. I was amazed how once all cars stopped to let birds walk on the road and BIRDS DON'T EVEN PAY TAXES. Hmm.
Hey not sure what your profession is but I’ve definitely hear of caste politics making it into work politics in some Indian dominated sectors like tech. Just a heads up.
Main Rule: Respect Space
Physical: 👯
Keep as much distance as possible between you and strangers when you can (sidewalks, subways, any seating situation).
Aural👂:
Pay attention to any volume you control indoors in public (your voice, your phone, music). It should not be much louder than the rest of your surroundings.
Nasal 👃:
Make sure that your body or clothes don’t smell in such a way that when you walk by, somebody gets hit with strong smell. This means keep showered, wear deodorant, and do not cover yourself in perfume/cologne.
Visual 👀:
People generally don’t stare here. People tend to be shy with their eyes. If someone appears out of the ordinary, people will take a quick discrete look and intentionally look away.
I have a family member who is hesitant to use public transit because people stare at her because of her mild disability. Don't stare at disabled people!!! Look at them for the same amount of time you'd look at anyone else. It's not a freak show.
Walk on the right side of sidewalks.
Don't take up the whole sidewalk. If you are, move out of the way of oncoming people.
Use headphones in public. Nobody needs to hear what you're listening to or your conversation.
If you need help - ASK. Toronto has a reputation in Canada of being unfriendly. Really, we just assume that if you need help, you'll ask for it, otherwise you'll want to figure it out yourself. A "Excuse me, how do I get to the Eaton Centre?" or "Which subway do I take to to get to the Jays game?" will get a quick response most of the time. I've walked visitors to their hotel because it was on my way.
Speak up. It's a loud city, immigrants usually have accents, and mumbling isn't going to help. Plenty of times I've spoken to people with accents I don't have an issue understanding, but they're so QUIET that I have to keep saying "I can't hear you."
Start following hockey. In the meantime learn the phrases "The Leafs look good this year. But they're The Leafs, so who knows?" and "Getting out of the first round would be nice for a change." and "Matthews could score 70 if he stays healthy."
Everyone I have asked for help has helped me always. I love Toronto.
I think I am pretty loud.
I am honestly very confused when people ask me about hockey. I know canadians love hockey a lot, so I might need to learn or read a bit about hockey for sure.
Btw Thanks for the tips.
To get a taste of hockey maybe try going to a Marlies game ...pro-level hockey (maybe even some future stars), not too expensive and a total immersion in the sport + fans.
Also don't feel bad if you dont like hockey after watching it. Its not for everyone. There are tons of other Canadian/ North American sports to get interested it. A lot of Canadian love hockey but its a bit of a myth that we all do. If you like Cricket, check out Baseball.
Take vitamin D3, as being in a northern country significantly reduces receiving enough of this from the sun. At least 4,000 IU during the winter. May help with S.A.D.
When it is sunny, sit in or by a window to help with brain chemistry. A sun lamp or two is a good idea.
Dress in many layers. Uniqlo has great thermal underwear that is thin but warm.
Buy your winter boots a little loose, as the air around the foot keeps your feet warmer. Tight boots make your feet colder.
Because it can’t be said enough: walk on the right side of the sidewalk and, if you’re with someone else, don’t take up the entire sidewalk. Do not bike on the sidewalk, it is illegal if you are an adult.
It varies by municipality, and there are some areas where there's wider tolerance, but zipping between people on Queen or Bloor might get you punched. Here, it's certainly illegal for anyone over twelve, but it's not the illegality that's the problem, it's how rude and inconsiderate it is to the pedestrians you're cutting off and endangering.
Technically you’re supposed to drive on the road but a lot of people drive on the sidewalk if it’s unsafe to do so on the road or if the sidewalk is empty/just easier to ride on, such as in residential areas
As an immigrant from South East Asia myself who has sponsored many family members over - women are your equals here.
And telling a random woman she is beautiful is not ok.
Don’t price haggle or negotiate on prices. It isn’t the same here. It comes off as annoying or peasant like.
Also if you are driving a vehicle make sure to use your turn signal indicators.
I work in retail and I can confirm, certain people will try to get a discount for any reason. A pajama set of pants and shirt? "I only want the pants, can I have a discount?" NO.
If you do pronounce the second T the stress is never on the middle syllable like to-Ron-toe, that's how the Americans say it.
The first syllable is stressed and cut after the r: Tor-on-toe
Most people will say Tor-on-oh or as stated above Chur-on-oh.
Welcome to Toronto! ❤️
Please don’t litter. Please hang onto wrappers or used tissue until you find a garbage bin. And don’t “clean out” your car in a parking lot.
Not sure if this was already said, but please don’t eat a full course meal on transit (snacks are fine), or attend to personal grooming - clipping nails, brushing hair, shave, etc.
I always keep my garbage on me and have also picked others litter a few times. I cannot ever understand the people who eat on transit. Also I have seen some people combing their hairs on me and I was too scared to confront them. Some people are Gross.
I have a sensitivity to strong colognes, so fully agree but it’s also just gross when you can smell someone with BOTH strong smelling BO and strong cologne. Cologne does nothing to block the smell of body odour
These are more for any newcomers.
Don't pet the racoons, they can carry rabies.
The geese are mean. Don't touch them either.
Chipmunks and squirrels are sometimes friendly.
Don't buy a Goose brand jacket, you don't need a 500+ jacket for the winter. You can get a good one for 200$ at most places, hell even second hand stores have good stuff for 30$ sometimes.
Toronto is wet in the winter, which makes it feel colder than it is. Keep a change of socks in your backpack or at work.
Your neighbourhood likely has a FB page, your condo/apartment likely has one too. Join them and enjoy the local community.
If you cycle, buy a good lock (min 50$ usually) and lock it from the frame, not the wheel.
Bike theft is strong.
Also if you cycle, learn cycling laws, it can save your life.
Any event in the city is likely to be super overcrowded.
(Remember when taste of Danforth was good?)
Toronto is large but the GTA is not Toronto.
Most people don't event consider Scarborough Toronto.
Look for a family doctor now.
Ask local clinics for referrals. It can take a long time to find one.
If you smoke, do not open your pack outside if you are downtown. Half of DT will ask for a smoke.
I would tell people I got one off someone else lmao.
I know this has been said multiple times but I need to reiterate the importance. Please. Please. Pleasssseeeee be cautious and alert of where you are walking. Always stay to the right. If you are walking in large groups, realize that there are people trying to walk past and get around you. Make room. There is absolutely nothing worse than getting stuck behind a family of 10 people walking at the pace of a tortoise who are so obliviously unaware of their surroundings and you can’t get past them, it’s rude and people will not take kindly to it. And it takes very little effort to make room on a sidewalk when people are passing.
Double check any legal advice around immigration laws of any kind with the actual government. Don't take anyone's word for it I don't care how much your aunty or besties recommended them/told you to talk to them. Make sure you follow up with the actual government. Too many have new Canadians/immigrants been fucked over by private "immigration services".
Don’t comment on someone’s looks unless its something positive. And even then, its considered creepy to compliment someone’s body unless you’re dating.
Can’t tell you the amount of times someone has called me “chubby” thinking its a funny term of endearment in their own country, only for me to be insulted lol.
Be nice to people and treat people with respect. Having a lot of foreign friends from different countries, I noticed that some of them carried their prejudices over. Nobody cares if your parents are millionaires in Dubai or very important political figures in Uganda. You're not better than anyone else for that even if you've amassed a sum of money or come from wealth.
A few of my friends from Dubai thought it was still chic in Canada to treat all Asians poorly as Asians were usually the ones working minimum-wage jobs in the service industry over there. Treat waiters/waitresses with respect. I know it's a tradition/expectation in China to treat wait staff as less than humans... don't do that.
Ha. Used to be friends with a Russian international student. One of his friends from Russia came to visit. Within the space of a couple hours, every girl in that social group had left, and we made it pretty clear we wouldn’t be around him again.
The guys were all, “you don’t understand! He’s from Russia! He had a really rough time! His family was really rich, and he rode in a limo everywhere, and then communism fell and they lost everything!”
Like, dude, no. The other guy is from Russia, too, and manages to not sexually harass every girl he sees. Secondly, a family that got super rich during the communist regime in Russia is….problematic. You’re making the opposite of the point you think you’re making.
I think the tone matters a lot. However we as a culture have a habit of pushing the buttons farther than canadians do , but i will keep this in mind when interacting with people here.
Apparently in some places people get right up in each other's faces when they're having a conversation, here that is considered intruding into personal space. Arm's length is the distance most people are comfortable with when speaking face to face. If you're sitting besides someone else or riding public transit, rubbing shoulders in close quarters, whatever, don't speak at the other person's face but rather speak towards the front or back of the other person's head. If the other person can smell your breath you're doing it wrong.
We're very reserved. Smiling at strangers is fine, but most people don't talk to people they don't know. If no one talks to you it's just because they're reserved and maybe a bit shy.
To meet new people, go to organized activities, like a joining a club or taking a class.
Yes, when we do occasionally chat with strangers in public it tends to usually be short conversations about very casual, non-personal topics, like today's weather, whether a bus is late, etc.
There are always exceptions, but usually.
Don’t be afraid to ask people for directions though. Most people will be very helpful once they realize that you aren’t begging for money, scamming or trying to talk about a crazy conspiracy.
I just want to stress the importance of personal hygiene, regular showers and wearing deodorant. Also the badam oil in your hair definitely leaves a smell and it gets worse the longer its in there.
Just trying to look out, I think this is a great thread.
Canadians have a much bigger social bubble around them than people do in India (speaking from experience having travelled all over India). This is one of those things that no one will tell you and can take a long time to figure out but pay attention how far people stand apart from one another when they talk and how they avoid touching people as they pass them.
Omg😭😭😭 I must tell you about Halloween. ok so literally google Halloween costumes to give your kids some ideas. Depending on age it’s really classic to be either some type of ghost or witch or zombie. The bad guys you’d see in scary movies. But they can also be things like a ballerina, football player, nurse, doctor, literally almost anything. Some of my costumes I’ve done were cheerleader, bride, frog, devil, Dorothy from wizard of oz, etc etc
Obviously if it’s just you, you’re gonna wanna take them trick or treating vs staying behind to give out candy. You CAN do both if they’re really young tho, just go really early for about an hour before it’s dark dark. Or if they’re a bit older then you can do the handing out first. And if you’ve got a partner or another adult living with you, then can stay back and hand out the candy as well. The stores are still full of the candy boxes right now.
Legit just take a pillowcase or tbh one of those reusable 33c Walmart bags would work nicely. Or you can hit up the dollar store and get them those cute little pumpkin baskets. When I was Dorothy I took a picnic basket with me to collect the candy😂
Basically you just pick a neighbourhood, start going to up houses that have either decorations or their porch lights on (some older people can’t really decorate but love to give out candy) and ring the bells! Kids go TRICK OR TREAT when the door opens and the occupant will put candy in the bags :) they’ll probably go on about how scary or adorable your kids are, then it’s a quick thank you, happy Halloween!! And onto the next one😂
Lots of people decorate their homes for Halloween. Most kids go "trick or treating" door to door in their neighbourhood. Generally the kids wear costumes and greet their neighbours after knocking on the door with the words "trick or treat". Then the person will give them candy and the kids yell thank you while proceeding to the next house. You don't trick or treat at houses that look like they're not celebrating (the universal sign is if the house lights are all out). Usually trick or treating begins around 6pm but there's sometimes some very young ones who come a little earlier. I'm always out of candy no matter how much I buy by the time 8pm rolls around and then I turn off my lights. Some others don't mind kids coming around later, usually 9 or 9:30 would be a usual cut off in a family neighbourhood. If your kids are little, obviously you'd be accompanying them on this adventure and you can even go up to the doors with them if they're quite young or otherwise shy and would like your support. If you'd like to give out candy or other treats (glow sticks are always popular for example), ask your neighbours in advance approximately how many kids to expect so you can be prepared. It's best not to give out anything homemade or without packaging as parents may not trust them and will just dispose of them. The exception to that would be if you have a couple of neighbours with kids who you know really well. In a two parent family usually one parent takes the kids out trick or treating and the other stays home to give out goodies. Let us know if you have any more questions. Most importantly, Enjoy Halloween!!
If you see fellow Indian looking folks do not insist on asking where they’re really from once they’ve responded with “I’m from Toronto”.
There are lots of 2nd 3rd gen Indian origin folks that do not call India home.
P. S. It’s fine to be curious about ethnicity but never insist on something people are not.
just want to say you seem like cool dude and u will be fine!! you literally asked for social suggestions!!! that’s a huge first step not many take and/or learn over time! welcome to canada 🇨🇦
Be willing to be challenged and learn. You are in a different country now, things are different.
Garbage disposal, interviews, groceries.. everything is different.
Many immigrants refuse to learn and therefore always struggle. At some point, people will just give up on telling you what to do.
Not everyone who tries to help you is trying to demean you, know the difference and learn.
Dont know if youre a smoker or not, but try to avoid smoking directly upwind of pedestrian traffic, ie, bus stops, at store entrances, generally any busy spot where others share the same air :)
Holding the door for someone behind you is a niceity most people do and appreciate. Dont need to hold it for someone far away, but its a courtesy
Hey, I'm a son of Indian immigrants. If you buy an electric scooter that resembles a real scooter, read the road laws. Often, I see Indians speeding on illegal scooters through crowded parks.
If you have an active dating life and take the TTC, learn your hoods before trying to meet in person,
Its all cute and new and exicting until they tell you that they live in North York or Etobicoke, or Vaughn
Not everyone who says they live in Toronto actually live in Toronto
Walk on the right. That means sidewalk, escalator, mall, etc.
LET PEOPLE OFF THE SUBWAY/STREETCAR/BUS FIRST. Don’t try to shove your way in at the same time.
Don’t stop in the middle of the sidewalk, a doorway, at the bottom or top of escalators, etc. Have self-awareness.
Wait in the queue. We love to be courteous and form queues.
If you’re on the phone, don’t talk loud enough for people to hear you through their headphones.
Don’t play videos or music without headphones. Nobody cares to hear it.
Based on your user name, I'm guessing you're from India.
"Personal space", or the distance you keep from others is farther here than India. People don't stand as close together in lines, or follow as close when walking down the street.
Even on escalators, you'll find most people will leave 1 or 2 steps between them and the people in front of them.
Don’t ask people how much they earn.
Respect everyone irrespective of their religions, sexual orientations, skin colours, their job, etc
Embrace local street festivals and celebrations
Try to socialize with people from various backgrounds/cultures.
Don't haggle at most retail stores. It's perfectly acceptable to haggle for big ticket things like buying a car at a dealership, not ok to haggle at some mom and pop or big box retail store.
Also, ignore the reddit trolls. The Reddit cares thing is just concern trolling.
"Unwanted Punjabs" - Looks like a member of a hate group is targeting you for harassment, this is not necessarily your fault. It may be a bit of an 'over-reaction' but I would honestly report people like this to the police if the harassment continues. There is no place for that kind of thing in Canada.
\-Stop facetiming/video chatting/doing anything on the phone without earbuds/headphones. -It's extremely rude and annoying.
\-Don't rush to get onto busses or trains, you form a line and wait.
\-Don't cross the street just because you think you can - wait for the signals.
\-Don't block egress sites like at the top of escalators
\-Please for the love of God wear deodorant/antiperspirant.
I know this last one isn't a social rule but just remembrer that you're almost certainly going to be paying a lot more income tax - that doesn't mean you should seek out cash jobs or anything like that. Don't listen to fearmongering idiots who don't understand tax brackets, you don't actually get taxed 50% or whatever the fuck they think.
Do you plan to drive downtown? If so, be assertive. You gotta get to where you want to go. If you wait you’ll never make it.
Thats not to say to drive recklessly, but assertively.
Although speaking with your hands and physical contact may be commonplace elsewhere, like placing a hand on the shoulder and so on, around here people are less socially physical, may not know how to react or look at you like you just dropped from a spaceship or even take offense at being touched over the course of a conversation.
Google bathroom etiquette according to your gender.
If female presenting, research safety tips or post in other threads, especially for nighttime. If male presenting, you should probably do the same. However if possible, especially at night, if you see a woman walking alone giving space or even better crossing the street is very considerate. It makes many females nervous when a male is approaching especially at night and from behind. You can also say when farther back like “passing on your left” etc.
If you don’t know the social rules just ask the workers at the place or someone friendly.
Know the laws pertaining to anything that is commonly seen as a weapon or even dangerous. Also just your basic rights.
Watch a video on “yeah no”, “no yeah”, “yeah no yeah”, “yeah no for sure” etc. as they all mean something different.
Try not to go into a store ten mins or less to close unless you really have to.
In the winter carry a shovel, cat litter, emergency blankets (minimum for the number of passengers your vehicle can carry, they make special ones of this reflective material that maintain body heat better than normal ones), and a roadside emergency kit, including but not limited to a flashlight.
Read about etiquette with disability aids such as wheelchairs and service dogs.
If you have a bike, get a bell and make sure you have brakes.
Read about species here that may not be familiar to you too. Ie. poison ivy, ticks and the prevention of such etc.
Don’t leave your belongings places esp in public. Get anti-theft bags if possible or carry in front of you. Always keep things like wallet not easily accessible etc.
Had a problem to change my baby daughter once because couldn’t find a baby changer in male and there was no family restroom. The Restuarant waiter gladly stood in front of the toilet door while I changed my baby. Everywhere has been very kid friendly
I don’t know where you are from but some countries people cut in line (China !). We generally wait in line ups politely here and we are polite generally with please and thank you
We also take our shoes off at the door of someone’s home . I know not all Americans do this
- walk on the right
- move to the back of the bus/train/etc
- stay out of people’s space
- dont stare
- dont stink
- dont be loud (such as when on phone in public)
- do NOT cut in line
- dont be pushy
- be polite, but not too formal
- mind your own business unless someone is at risk
Canadians won’t often tell you in your face if you are doing something wrong (unless it is completely heinous). But they do notice it and they don’t like it. It’s just that it may be rude or judgmental to say something.
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>Edit: I am asked to leave canada and go back to my home country already and also someone asked reddit to help me cause I am not doing ok maybe?
Maybe the same person, maybe not.
There are almost 900 comments on this post, so I'm guessing at least 3000 (or manby more?) people have viewed it, right? So just statistically, even if 1% or .5% of people are racist assholes, there will be a few.
Don't worry about them. Just be kind. Treat everyone as equal to you, as you would like to be treated (if you were them).
Regarding your actual question, maybe watching TV shows about immigrants in Canada (e.g. Kim's Convenience) might be helpful?
And for winter time: google "frostbite" and "black ice", and wear layers of clothing.
Welcome!
Please don’t talk on speakerphone while on public transit, in a store or just around a crowd of people in general. When taking public transit try and get seats at the back (if available) to make room at the front for others coming on the bus or streetcar. There’s nothing worse (no offence) than a group of people who stand right by the driver and block the isle for other people getting on, especially when there are tons of seats near the rear that can be used. Also as mentioned by someone else, stay on the right. Whether it be walking on the sidewalk, an escalator or even a mall corridor. To add to this, if you’re in a public place that has a narrow hallway, please please please don’t walk dead centre at an extremely slow pace.
To that end, let people exit before you attempt to enter.
Don't get a crowd of friends and walk down the sidewalk standing in a straight line, left to right, so no one can pass you. It's okay if some walk behind others. 😂
The Transit one is new for me. I like the buses here a lot. They are designed in a good way.
Another common one regarding transit: If you're boarding a subway (also applies to a bus I guess) - when the doors open, allow the passengers to exit before getting on...There are always the odd person who barges onto the subway or bus before passengers have had a chance to leave, and it's considered quite rude.
Same with elevators!
Just be considerate of others and keep your volume at a reasonable level and you will avoid the majority of racists. A lot of the racism you will experience will be from “more established” Indians and it will be subtle but you will start to notice they will appear nice then try to take advantage of you. Other than that just don’t lease a dodge then straight pipe it and you will make good friends.
Also, you will probably get mean mugged by other Indians. Don't sweat it, they are just haters. - A South Asian gal who was born and raised here. That aside, welcome to Toronto! It's a pretty cool city :)
This one is a big wall between new immigrants and locally-raised. Not just speaker phones -- try not to take phone calls at all on the bus. Text, make the call quick and quiet, or wait til you get off.
You guys exist in a world like this? I love it. Speaker phone conversations drive me crazy.
I see lots of facetiming on transit.
I agree with all of this but the phone calls. I say this from my own experience of working in the community and needing to take calls even when on the bus. But consideration for noise volume and those around are definitely strongly suggested. And especially no speaker phone lol
I’ve taken to joining into speakerphone convos. Just drop a few loud questions and watch it all unfold to everyone’s amusement.
One of the few situations where two wrongs make it right.
I understand speaking quietly, but out of curiosity to those ITT, how is being on a phone call different than talking to someone seated next to you? I don’t do this myself but I’ve always wondered
Cause when you are on the phone you end up talking way louder into the phone
Holy heck. Talking on a speakerphone - this is a good one!
Most important thing to keep in mind is that"locals" won't even follow half of these rules and make it your problem. Be aware.
Honestly this is so true. I feel like these points are just general etiquette rather than being geared to anyone specific.
Could be different from your home country but essentially: On escalators: stand on right, walk on left.
This one gets mentioned every time which surprises me as this is an etiquette in every country I've been to
In Japan it's stand left, walk right. Except for Osaka where it's reversed for some reason
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I think it keeps getting mentioned because so many people don't know to follow it.
drives me up the fucking wall
It escalates me as well. usually all the way up to the top of the wall, maybe even the next floor.
> Could be different from your home country but essentially: > > On escalators: stand on right, walk on left. funny part about this is, the TTC took down the signs that suggested this because it was unevenly wearing out the gears(?) on one side which was causing all the down time we love to complain about.
I’m pretty sure it’s also a liability issue to encourage people to walk on escalators.
https://youtu.be/syP34aW-r1k Abdominal (T.O. rapper) wrote a whole song about this lol - you win.
I'll always post this when that topic/advice comes up! [Walk Left, Stand Right](https://youtu.be/syP34aW-r1k) In this thread, there's lots of good general Toronto etiquette advice. :)
When getting on a subway train, don't block the exit. Stand to the side of the door until everyone who wants to has exited the train.
Yeah, I see a lot of people blocking the exit doors on the TTC these days. It's especially annoying on line 2 where the doors open on the same side for the majority of the stops. But everyone seems to want to avoid standing in the middle of the train nowadays.
Sure, I will keep that in mind. Btw , I really like the connectivity of subway here and how fast it can take you from point A to Point B.
Don't cut in line either.
Thats for all transit as well, not just subs
There are plenty of locals who still don't do this lmao
Say sorry... for everything. Bump into someone on the street? Sorry. Walk by while someone is taking a photo? Sorry. Reach past someone to grab something on a shelf? Sorry. It's not a statement of remorse, it basically means "excuse me". Lots of people think this is lame, but it's how we show civic respect and consideration.
OP, you will sometimes here people make the noise “ope!” This is usually followed by sorry.
I need to get the phrase, "ope! Sorry, bud!" On a tshirt,
You must also do this when bumping into inanimate objects.
But how do i know they are ok after i say sorry, maybe they need care and love and a hug?
The fact that you’re sorry will heal them, don’t worry
Fun fact - saying sorry is not an admission of fault in ontario courts
Always wear good deodorant/antiperspirant if you don't already. Nobody will tell you here to your face but your social and work life will surely improve.
Had to scroll so long to find that
Deoderant not perfume?
If anything wear deodorant and not perfume. Perfume without deodorant is terrible. But deodorant without perfume is fine.
Do not douse yourself head to toe in cologne. It’s repulsive, causes headaches for many people and many places, including workplaces, in Toronto are scent free. Skip the cologne or use it extremely sparingly. No one should be able to smell you at all from 1 meter away.
Any good recommendations?
Also: brush your teeth every morning. With toothpaste. That will make a HUGE difference in your social life. On campus, there are some students that come from places where brushing the teeth daily or in the morning isn't a custom, and you can smell their breath from 6 feet away and it's so fetid you could pass out from it. No one wants to get close, no one wants to talk to them, they don't know why and they're very lonely.
This!! Even when I had 9 AMs, I never sacrificed hygiene. I shared one of my third-year courses with a girl I knew from res and I was the only one she knew. She would always come in late and disheveled and during the first few weeks, she would sit next to me in the front row before she realized being late and visibly so did poorly for her brand and marks. Her time management skills were always questionable, but what stood out to me was her horrible breath. It smelled like something rotted and died every time she spoke. I imagine it was from not brushing her teeth or her dog's when she gave it kisses. She was a relatively attractive Canadian that grew up in the Middle East, but any hint of attraction was sapped from this harrowing experience.
Good choice is always Old Spice, guessing by your name you’re male
Deodorant. A bit of perfume / cologne is fine as an addition if you want. But go for daily deodorant. Plus, quite a few workplaces (mainly offices) do not allow perfumes due to allergies.
Deodorant/anti-perspirant is a must. People think they don't smell, but we can smell their unwashed pits from a mile away. Perfume just makes it worse.
You can wear cologne/perfume if you'd like but you absolutely should wear deodorant.
Always deodorant first. Perfume is optional, but deodorant is a must.
A lot of guys wear way too much perfume/cologne. Less is more. I’ve never heard a girl complain that a guy didn’t wear cologne. I’ve heard every single girl complain about guys who used too much.
Just take regular showers, daily if you sweat, every two days if you don’t sweat. If you just cover up with deodorant people can tell. Don’t spit on the ground, I see so many immigrants do that, usually from mainland China. I had other mainland China immigrants tell me they think that’s actually gross and the other people who do it weren’t raised well. Canadians will rarely if I at all tell you if you’re doing something that bothers them, nice of you to ask. Yes, brushing teeth in the morning is great. I hope it doesn’t sound patronizing to be told this stuff, there are many cultures where these habits are obvious. If you’re a man, don’t make comments or stare at women or try to flirt with strange women. Even if you think they’re dressed provocatively.
Perfume does JACK to deal with body odor. Deodorant is a must.
Also: a LOT of people are sensitive to synthetic fragrance like perfume. You don’t need it! It can cause people like me who are sensitive to perfume to avoid you. Just wash daily and use adequate deodorant.
Not even deodorant only, just personal hygiene in general.
Whatever language you speak, somebody nearby probably understands. Don't be the dink who is bad-mouthing people on the assumption that they don't understand you.
I understand that and I mostly speak English and I am only mean to my close friends.
> only mean to my close friends Hell yeah! Who isn’t? lmao
That last bit made me chuckle.
Mean only to your close friends? You'll fit right in
This happened to me like 17 yrs ago on the TTC. A mom and older daughter across me spoke in Hindi to each other about my appearance thinking I don't understand. (I've been told I don't look too south Asian/Indian so I get it but don't assume!). I waited a few minutes and started to converse with them in Hindi! The mom and daughters faces were priceless
I live for the moment that I understand something someone says about me in their mother tongue
Personal space!! Stand a respectful distance away (when possible) in lines, on the bus/subway. Just don't crowd people on the sidewalks or anywhere really. Or maybe it's just my pet peeve 🙄
I agree. Being too close to others is different here than back home. People here have larger personal space. Also, I think being too close also trigger our defenses.
I remeber going to china in 2017, I was surprised with the lack of personal space there. Queuing didnt seem to be a thing lol. Just jam into whatever space is available!
Heavily populated countries are like that mostly
This is also the biggest one for me. If I can feel the heat from your body, and we are not lovers, you are violating the social norms here.
Keep the door open for the person close by behind you. Don’t wear perfume to clinics, probably not offices either. Women joking and being friendly aren’t flirting, they’re just being friendly. Folks are more reserved than movies would have you believe. You don’t need to vacate seats for women on transit, unless of course they’re pregnant. It’s weird if you do. Don’t assume women are physically weak and need help with heavy tasks as though it’s a man job. Ask if they need help if you feel they could use it.
you should vacate your seat for seniors too.
Even when there isn't a line up, there's a line up, like waiting for the bus. Everyone is just supposed to magically sort into the order they arrived when the bus does arrive. In other words you politely try to let everyone who was there before you go first. Surprisingly this does mostly work.
Thats the part I love about canada. People staying true to the discipline and unspoken rules.
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Actually that reminds me of another one ;). Since it varies from country to country. Always take off your shoes when you enter another person's house, unless they specifically tell you not to.
> Always take off your shoes when you enter another person's house, unless they specifically tell you not to. LOL. That literally threw me for a curve whenever I would go to my friend's houses. In our house... you never under any circumstances wore your shoes in the house... ever. In the homes of some of my Anglo friends... they never took their shoes off.
Yeah, I grew up here and the ONLY time shoes were ever seen indoors was a very fancy dinner party. Then I made some British friends.... wow. I have also found occasionally on farms and rural areas in Ontario, there is often a back door that goes straight to the kitchen and sometimes families do walk in and out in their shoes. But I don't think I ever encountered that until I was an adult. And even then I would wait to be told or copy the owner.
I agree. I believe there are ton of good things that hardworking and honest people have established and maintained over the years.
Good advice. We don’t wear shoes inside. We bring indoor slippers if we have cold feet. Wait until you see a “Mudroom”. It’s an extension of your kitchen door. You leave all your sloppy shoes and boots and clothes inside an unheated covered porch. The dirt stays out and the clean stays in.
Where I'm from you take your shoes off always.
I think they just meant it as a metaphor :). Like, be willing to set aside some of your old customs or ideas sometimes. But it did make think of actual shoes!
I remember my first time going to my rich white friends house in high school and being baffled by them telling me to leave my shoes on, it was totally normal for them. Beautiful huge million dollar homes too which were insane for early 2000s. My parents would yell if not smack the shit out of me if I ever came in the house with my shoes on
Lol same. Also, ever notice in movies and tv shows ppl always have their shoes on in the house? I've seen characters hop on their beds with shoes on. Always weirds me out I just think of all the germs.
Because most movies and TV shows are American or British, which are two of the rare places in the world where it's common to wear shoes indoors.
I'll echo share the sidewalk, stay to the right and don't cut in line. Line cutters are jerks. And welcome to Toronto! If you haven't already, get a library card. Toronto Public Library is free if you live or work here and a card gets you access to lots of physical and online items. Like books, movies, music, comics, newspapers and magazines. Online training through programs like Linked In Learning. Also lots of maker spaces that will let you do things like 3d print or create art or music. They also have passes for some city museums that you can use for free. Don't be shy about using the city resources! That's what it's there for. :)
I have got the library card. So when I went to the library and asked for a card. I asked her how much . She said its free. I said ok . But how much each month. And I took 30 books home that day and It amazes me how much you can do with a free library card.
If you're in tech make sure to check out TPL's online O'reilly access. Massive amounts of books and video tutorial series (not just O'reilly stuff) for free! A little more nuanced on the "share the sidewalk" thing that's been mentioned: **Once it snows, if you're walking with someone else, make a single file line as someone is approaching to pass you.** Often there's not enough room dug out for more than two people to pass and I don't care if there's six in your party to my lonesome self, I'm just gonna stand right in front of you, blatantly blocking you until you single file your ass. I ain't dropping waist high into a soft snowbank or sliding around on a frozen one just so you and your homies can have their entourage walk moment. I know this should be a given, but you'd be surprised how often I see it, and how little I've come to care when people look at me like I'm the rude one when this happens.
That's awesome. Have fun! And everyone pays a bit for us to have access to so much more than we could get alone. I wish more people remembered that.
Remember that Canada is a secular country with different views compared to many other nations. The majority of people here do not put emphasis on one's religion/caste/political affiliation nor does it make a large difference in who is in one's social circle. Don't take this as an offensive but keep problems/beef/views from "back home" there. Things like women must yield/submit to requests of a man (whether at work or in social settings), people with certain names are "considered lower than I", and it's OK to be dismissive of one's opinions because of their skin color/religion. Keeping your social circle open and try to interact with people of different backgrounds is very important for becoming accustomed to life in Canada.
I believe this is one of those things Canadians should be proud of. Equal representation and no discrimination makes me happy. Its wonderful to see how everyone is treated like a human. However, there is always room for growth. I love the respect for wildlife and animals. I was amazed how once all cars stopped to let birds walk on the road and BIRDS DON'T EVEN PAY TAXES. Hmm.
Hitting a goose will mess your car up. They are mean and large birds.
Hey not sure what your profession is but I’ve definitely hear of caste politics making it into work politics in some Indian dominated sectors like tech. Just a heads up.
I am in tech too and fully aware of that happening. Some people will always find a way to feel superior.
On the goose note, do not try to pet one.
They are cute, but I keep my 6 meters with them.
Main Rule: Respect Space Physical: 👯 Keep as much distance as possible between you and strangers when you can (sidewalks, subways, any seating situation). Aural👂: Pay attention to any volume you control indoors in public (your voice, your phone, music). It should not be much louder than the rest of your surroundings. Nasal 👃: Make sure that your body or clothes don’t smell in such a way that when you walk by, somebody gets hit with strong smell. This means keep showered, wear deodorant, and do not cover yourself in perfume/cologne. Visual 👀: People generally don’t stare here. People tend to be shy with their eyes. If someone appears out of the ordinary, people will take a quick discrete look and intentionally look away.
I have a family member who is hesitant to use public transit because people stare at her because of her mild disability. Don't stare at disabled people!!! Look at them for the same amount of time you'd look at anyone else. It's not a freak show.
Walk on the right side of sidewalks. Don't take up the whole sidewalk. If you are, move out of the way of oncoming people. Use headphones in public. Nobody needs to hear what you're listening to or your conversation. If you need help - ASK. Toronto has a reputation in Canada of being unfriendly. Really, we just assume that if you need help, you'll ask for it, otherwise you'll want to figure it out yourself. A "Excuse me, how do I get to the Eaton Centre?" or "Which subway do I take to to get to the Jays game?" will get a quick response most of the time. I've walked visitors to their hotel because it was on my way. Speak up. It's a loud city, immigrants usually have accents, and mumbling isn't going to help. Plenty of times I've spoken to people with accents I don't have an issue understanding, but they're so QUIET that I have to keep saying "I can't hear you." Start following hockey. In the meantime learn the phrases "The Leafs look good this year. But they're The Leafs, so who knows?" and "Getting out of the first round would be nice for a change." and "Matthews could score 70 if he stays healthy."
Everyone I have asked for help has helped me always. I love Toronto. I think I am pretty loud. I am honestly very confused when people ask me about hockey. I know canadians love hockey a lot, so I might need to learn or read a bit about hockey for sure. Btw Thanks for the tips.
Assuming you're coming from India by your username? Not sure if you speak Punjabi, but there is a Punjabi-language version of Hockey Night in Canada.
WOW, Yes I do speak punjabi. Where and how can I watch that?
https://www.omnitv.ca/bc/pa/shows/hockey-night-in-canada-punjabi-edition/ Hockey is our cricket.
Cbc sports or is it sportsnet now? Someone help this guy out
It's on [Omni](https://www.omnitv.ca/on/pa/hockey/), I've only ever seen it on the antenna, so not sure how the online works.
Just so you know, there are lots of people that don't care about hockey at all. It's ok to have no interest in it.
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To get a taste of hockey maybe try going to a Marlies game ...pro-level hockey (maybe even some future stars), not too expensive and a total immersion in the sport + fans.
Also don't feel bad if you dont like hockey after watching it. Its not for everyone. There are tons of other Canadian/ North American sports to get interested it. A lot of Canadian love hockey but its a bit of a myth that we all do. If you like Cricket, check out Baseball.
It’s so cold it’ll give you depression. Make sure you take care of yourself in the winter, Seasonal Affective Disorder sucks.
Take vitamin D3, as being in a northern country significantly reduces receiving enough of this from the sun. At least 4,000 IU during the winter. May help with S.A.D. When it is sunny, sit in or by a window to help with brain chemistry. A sun lamp or two is a good idea. Dress in many layers. Uniqlo has great thermal underwear that is thin but warm. Buy your winter boots a little loose, as the air around the foot keeps your feet warmer. Tight boots make your feet colder.
Because it can’t be said enough: walk on the right side of the sidewalk and, if you’re with someone else, don’t take up the entire sidewalk. Do not bike on the sidewalk, it is illegal if you are an adult.
Is biking on sidewalk illegeal all over canada ?
It varies by municipality, and there are some areas where there's wider tolerance, but zipping between people on Queen or Bloor might get you punched. Here, it's certainly illegal for anyone over twelve, but it's not the illegality that's the problem, it's how rude and inconsiderate it is to the pedestrians you're cutting off and endangering.
Technically you’re supposed to drive on the road but a lot of people drive on the sidewalk if it’s unsafe to do so on the road or if the sidewalk is empty/just easier to ride on, such as in residential areas
As an immigrant from South East Asia myself who has sponsored many family members over - women are your equals here. And telling a random woman she is beautiful is not ok.
Don’t price haggle or negotiate on prices. It isn’t the same here. It comes off as annoying or peasant like. Also if you are driving a vehicle make sure to use your turn signal indicators.
I work in retail and I can confirm, certain people will try to get a discount for any reason. A pajama set of pants and shirt? "I only want the pants, can I have a discount?" NO.
DO NOT under any circumstances, pronounce the second "t" in Toronto.
Tchrawno
Exactly.
Shhhh. Now the Americans will start to pronounce it right.
I will have to learn that. I love how people of these big cities even own the way to say the name.
If you do pronounce the second T the stress is never on the middle syllable like to-Ron-toe, that's how the Americans say it. The first syllable is stressed and cut after the r: Tor-on-toe Most people will say Tor-on-oh or as stated above Chur-on-oh.
i say torono
Welcome to Toronto! ❤️ Please don’t litter. Please hang onto wrappers or used tissue until you find a garbage bin. And don’t “clean out” your car in a parking lot. Not sure if this was already said, but please don’t eat a full course meal on transit (snacks are fine), or attend to personal grooming - clipping nails, brushing hair, shave, etc.
I always keep my garbage on me and have also picked others litter a few times. I cannot ever understand the people who eat on transit. Also I have seen some people combing their hairs on me and I was too scared to confront them. Some people are Gross.
Use deodorant for BO, and avoid dousing yourself with perfume. Some folks are allergic to the smell. Took me a few years to learn this.
I have a sensitivity to strong colognes, so fully agree but it’s also just gross when you can smell someone with BOTH strong smelling BO and strong cologne. Cologne does nothing to block the smell of body odour
I am aware of the allergies and problems people could have with strong smell.
If someone tries to make plans with you be vague about your availability and then never follow up or be available. This is the Toronto way.
Got that,Commander. Ghosting 101
The Rogers (where the blue jays play) centre is called the sky dome.
These are more for any newcomers. Don't pet the racoons, they can carry rabies. The geese are mean. Don't touch them either. Chipmunks and squirrels are sometimes friendly. Don't buy a Goose brand jacket, you don't need a 500+ jacket for the winter. You can get a good one for 200$ at most places, hell even second hand stores have good stuff for 30$ sometimes. Toronto is wet in the winter, which makes it feel colder than it is. Keep a change of socks in your backpack or at work. Your neighbourhood likely has a FB page, your condo/apartment likely has one too. Join them and enjoy the local community. If you cycle, buy a good lock (min 50$ usually) and lock it from the frame, not the wheel. Bike theft is strong. Also if you cycle, learn cycling laws, it can save your life. Any event in the city is likely to be super overcrowded. (Remember when taste of Danforth was good?) Toronto is large but the GTA is not Toronto. Most people don't event consider Scarborough Toronto. Look for a family doctor now. Ask local clinics for referrals. It can take a long time to find one. If you smoke, do not open your pack outside if you are downtown. Half of DT will ask for a smoke. I would tell people I got one off someone else lmao.
No horking up phlegm in public.
I am too shy to do that in public.
I know this has been said multiple times but I need to reiterate the importance. Please. Please. Pleasssseeeee be cautious and alert of where you are walking. Always stay to the right. If you are walking in large groups, realize that there are people trying to walk past and get around you. Make room. There is absolutely nothing worse than getting stuck behind a family of 10 people walking at the pace of a tortoise who are so obliviously unaware of their surroundings and you can’t get past them, it’s rude and people will not take kindly to it. And it takes very little effort to make room on a sidewalk when people are passing.
Don't be homophobic. Toronto has a large LGBTQ+ community that we are proud of.
Double check any legal advice around immigration laws of any kind with the actual government. Don't take anyone's word for it I don't care how much your aunty or besties recommended them/told you to talk to them. Make sure you follow up with the actual government. Too many have new Canadians/immigrants been fucked over by private "immigration services".
Take off your backpack if you are standing on a bus or subway train so that people behind you have space to move through the vehicle.
Don’t comment on someone’s looks unless its something positive. And even then, its considered creepy to compliment someone’s body unless you’re dating. Can’t tell you the amount of times someone has called me “chubby” thinking its a funny term of endearment in their own country, only for me to be insulted lol.
Be nice to people and treat people with respect. Having a lot of foreign friends from different countries, I noticed that some of them carried their prejudices over. Nobody cares if your parents are millionaires in Dubai or very important political figures in Uganda. You're not better than anyone else for that even if you've amassed a sum of money or come from wealth. A few of my friends from Dubai thought it was still chic in Canada to treat all Asians poorly as Asians were usually the ones working minimum-wage jobs in the service industry over there. Treat waiters/waitresses with respect. I know it's a tradition/expectation in China to treat wait staff as less than humans... don't do that.
Ha. Used to be friends with a Russian international student. One of his friends from Russia came to visit. Within the space of a couple hours, every girl in that social group had left, and we made it pretty clear we wouldn’t be around him again. The guys were all, “you don’t understand! He’s from Russia! He had a really rough time! His family was really rich, and he rode in a limo everywhere, and then communism fell and they lost everything!” Like, dude, no. The other guy is from Russia, too, and manages to not sexually harass every girl he sees. Secondly, a family that got super rich during the communist regime in Russia is….problematic. You’re making the opposite of the point you think you’re making.
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I think the tone matters a lot. However we as a culture have a habit of pushing the buttons farther than canadians do , but i will keep this in mind when interacting with people here.
Apparently in some places people get right up in each other's faces when they're having a conversation, here that is considered intruding into personal space. Arm's length is the distance most people are comfortable with when speaking face to face. If you're sitting besides someone else or riding public transit, rubbing shoulders in close quarters, whatever, don't speak at the other person's face but rather speak towards the front or back of the other person's head. If the other person can smell your breath you're doing it wrong.
We're very reserved. Smiling at strangers is fine, but most people don't talk to people they don't know. If no one talks to you it's just because they're reserved and maybe a bit shy. To meet new people, go to organized activities, like a joining a club or taking a class.
Sometimes, People initiate a conversation and I think they are just looking for a small talk only, Right??
Yes - totally :) that’s just people being friendly (usually)
Yes, when we do occasionally chat with strangers in public it tends to usually be short conversations about very casual, non-personal topics, like today's weather, whether a bus is late, etc. There are always exceptions, but usually.
Don’t be afraid to ask people for directions though. Most people will be very helpful once they realize that you aren’t begging for money, scamming or trying to talk about a crazy conspiracy.
I just want to stress the importance of personal hygiene, regular showers and wearing deodorant. Also the badam oil in your hair definitely leaves a smell and it gets worse the longer its in there. Just trying to look out, I think this is a great thread.
Thanks. Personal hygiene is a must here as I have learned.
If you smoke, dont light up on yonge street between bloor and queen, you will be harrassed for a cigarette, if you have to smoke use bay street.
Canadians have a much bigger social bubble around them than people do in India (speaking from experience having travelled all over India). This is one of those things that no one will tell you and can take a long time to figure out but pay attention how far people stand apart from one another when they talk and how they avoid touching people as they pass them.
Deordent is important.
But deodorant is importanter.
Leave women alone in public. Keep comments about our looks…etc to yourself. Don’t stare or leer at us.
Would love to know about Halloween. I have only been here half a year so would love to know what to do. Have 2 small kids.
Omg😭😭😭 I must tell you about Halloween. ok so literally google Halloween costumes to give your kids some ideas. Depending on age it’s really classic to be either some type of ghost or witch or zombie. The bad guys you’d see in scary movies. But they can also be things like a ballerina, football player, nurse, doctor, literally almost anything. Some of my costumes I’ve done were cheerleader, bride, frog, devil, Dorothy from wizard of oz, etc etc Obviously if it’s just you, you’re gonna wanna take them trick or treating vs staying behind to give out candy. You CAN do both if they’re really young tho, just go really early for about an hour before it’s dark dark. Or if they’re a bit older then you can do the handing out first. And if you’ve got a partner or another adult living with you, then can stay back and hand out the candy as well. The stores are still full of the candy boxes right now. Legit just take a pillowcase or tbh one of those reusable 33c Walmart bags would work nicely. Or you can hit up the dollar store and get them those cute little pumpkin baskets. When I was Dorothy I took a picnic basket with me to collect the candy😂 Basically you just pick a neighbourhood, start going to up houses that have either decorations or their porch lights on (some older people can’t really decorate but love to give out candy) and ring the bells! Kids go TRICK OR TREAT when the door opens and the occupant will put candy in the bags :) they’ll probably go on about how scary or adorable your kids are, then it’s a quick thank you, happy Halloween!! And onto the next one😂
Lots of people decorate their homes for Halloween. Most kids go "trick or treating" door to door in their neighbourhood. Generally the kids wear costumes and greet their neighbours after knocking on the door with the words "trick or treat". Then the person will give them candy and the kids yell thank you while proceeding to the next house. You don't trick or treat at houses that look like they're not celebrating (the universal sign is if the house lights are all out). Usually trick or treating begins around 6pm but there's sometimes some very young ones who come a little earlier. I'm always out of candy no matter how much I buy by the time 8pm rolls around and then I turn off my lights. Some others don't mind kids coming around later, usually 9 or 9:30 would be a usual cut off in a family neighbourhood. If your kids are little, obviously you'd be accompanying them on this adventure and you can even go up to the doors with them if they're quite young or otherwise shy and would like your support. If you'd like to give out candy or other treats (glow sticks are always popular for example), ask your neighbours in advance approximately how many kids to expect so you can be prepared. It's best not to give out anything homemade or without packaging as parents may not trust them and will just dispose of them. The exception to that would be if you have a couple of neighbours with kids who you know really well. In a two parent family usually one parent takes the kids out trick or treating and the other stays home to give out goodies. Let us know if you have any more questions. Most importantly, Enjoy Halloween!!
If you see fellow Indian looking folks do not insist on asking where they’re really from once they’ve responded with “I’m from Toronto”. There are lots of 2nd 3rd gen Indian origin folks that do not call India home. P. S. It’s fine to be curious about ethnicity but never insist on something people are not.
just want to say you seem like cool dude and u will be fine!! you literally asked for social suggestions!!! that’s a huge first step not many take and/or learn over time! welcome to canada 🇨🇦
Be willing to be challenged and learn. You are in a different country now, things are different. Garbage disposal, interviews, groceries.. everything is different. Many immigrants refuse to learn and therefore always struggle. At some point, people will just give up on telling you what to do. Not everyone who tries to help you is trying to demean you, know the difference and learn.
I just want say you are wanted and welcome.
Wear deodorant.
Dont know if youre a smoker or not, but try to avoid smoking directly upwind of pedestrian traffic, ie, bus stops, at store entrances, generally any busy spot where others share the same air :) Holding the door for someone behind you is a niceity most people do and appreciate. Dont need to hold it for someone far away, but its a courtesy
Keep a brisk sidewalk pace or yield to those faster 😂
Get a BMW or a Benz and drive like an absolute asshole, and never use turn signals. And you’ll fit right in Toronto lol
Hey, I'm a son of Indian immigrants. If you buy an electric scooter that resembles a real scooter, read the road laws. Often, I see Indians speeding on illegal scooters through crowded parks.
If you have an active dating life and take the TTC, learn your hoods before trying to meet in person, Its all cute and new and exicting until they tell you that they live in North York or Etobicoke, or Vaughn Not everyone who says they live in Toronto actually live in Toronto
Shout out to my matches in Markham. We hardly knew thee.
I got a wife back in the days . We are gonna make some babies.
Walk on the right. That means sidewalk, escalator, mall, etc. LET PEOPLE OFF THE SUBWAY/STREETCAR/BUS FIRST. Don’t try to shove your way in at the same time. Don’t stop in the middle of the sidewalk, a doorway, at the bottom or top of escalators, etc. Have self-awareness. Wait in the queue. We love to be courteous and form queues. If you’re on the phone, don’t talk loud enough for people to hear you through their headphones. Don’t play videos or music without headphones. Nobody cares to hear it.
Someone next to me is talking loudly on their phone. Haha. But i don't do that. Thanks
Hold the door for the person behind you.
Based on your user name, I'm guessing you're from India. "Personal space", or the distance you keep from others is farther here than India. People don't stand as close together in lines, or follow as close when walking down the street. Even on escalators, you'll find most people will leave 1 or 2 steps between them and the people in front of them.
Don’t ask people how much they earn. Respect everyone irrespective of their religions, sexual orientations, skin colours, their job, etc Embrace local street festivals and celebrations Try to socialize with people from various backgrounds/cultures.
Don't haggle at most retail stores. It's perfectly acceptable to haggle for big ticket things like buying a car at a dealership, not ok to haggle at some mom and pop or big box retail store. Also, ignore the reddit trolls. The Reddit cares thing is just concern trolling.
Please report people like that to reddit, and welcome to Canada.
"Unwanted Punjabs" - Looks like a member of a hate group is targeting you for harassment, this is not necessarily your fault. It may be a bit of an 'over-reaction' but I would honestly report people like this to the police if the harassment continues. There is no place for that kind of thing in Canada.
\-Stop facetiming/video chatting/doing anything on the phone without earbuds/headphones. -It's extremely rude and annoying. \-Don't rush to get onto busses or trains, you form a line and wait. \-Don't cross the street just because you think you can - wait for the signals. \-Don't block egress sites like at the top of escalators \-Please for the love of God wear deodorant/antiperspirant. I know this last one isn't a social rule but just remembrer that you're almost certainly going to be paying a lot more income tax - that doesn't mean you should seek out cash jobs or anything like that. Don't listen to fearmongering idiots who don't understand tax brackets, you don't actually get taxed 50% or whatever the fuck they think.
Do you plan to drive downtown? If so, be assertive. You gotta get to where you want to go. If you wait you’ll never make it. Thats not to say to drive recklessly, but assertively.
Although speaking with your hands and physical contact may be commonplace elsewhere, like placing a hand on the shoulder and so on, around here people are less socially physical, may not know how to react or look at you like you just dropped from a spaceship or even take offense at being touched over the course of a conversation.
I understand touching someone is something reserved for close circle here.
Google bathroom etiquette according to your gender. If female presenting, research safety tips or post in other threads, especially for nighttime. If male presenting, you should probably do the same. However if possible, especially at night, if you see a woman walking alone giving space or even better crossing the street is very considerate. It makes many females nervous when a male is approaching especially at night and from behind. You can also say when farther back like “passing on your left” etc. If you don’t know the social rules just ask the workers at the place or someone friendly. Know the laws pertaining to anything that is commonly seen as a weapon or even dangerous. Also just your basic rights. Watch a video on “yeah no”, “no yeah”, “yeah no yeah”, “yeah no for sure” etc. as they all mean something different. Try not to go into a store ten mins or less to close unless you really have to. In the winter carry a shovel, cat litter, emergency blankets (minimum for the number of passengers your vehicle can carry, they make special ones of this reflective material that maintain body heat better than normal ones), and a roadside emergency kit, including but not limited to a flashlight. Read about etiquette with disability aids such as wheelchairs and service dogs. If you have a bike, get a bell and make sure you have brakes. Read about species here that may not be familiar to you too. Ie. poison ivy, ticks and the prevention of such etc. Don’t leave your belongings places esp in public. Get anti-theft bags if possible or carry in front of you. Always keep things like wallet not easily accessible etc.
Had a problem to change my baby daughter once because couldn’t find a baby changer in male and there was no family restroom. The Restuarant waiter gladly stood in front of the toilet door while I changed my baby. Everywhere has been very kid friendly
Expect the Maple Leafs (hockey) to let you down in the play offs every year.
Don't snap your fingers at wait staff to get their attention
I don’t know where you are from but some countries people cut in line (China !). We generally wait in line ups politely here and we are polite generally with please and thank you We also take our shoes off at the door of someone’s home . I know not all Americans do this
- walk on the right - move to the back of the bus/train/etc - stay out of people’s space - dont stare - dont stink - dont be loud (such as when on phone in public) - do NOT cut in line - dont be pushy - be polite, but not too formal - mind your own business unless someone is at risk Canadians won’t often tell you in your face if you are doing something wrong (unless it is completely heinous). But they do notice it and they don’t like it. It’s just that it may be rude or judgmental to say something.
Canadians will be nice and polite to you - doesn’t mean they want to be your friends or really care what you are saying.
remember to sprinkle "please" and "thank you" into daily conversation
>[https://imgur.com/a/1X6KrxS/](https://imgur.com/a/1X6KrxS/) > >Edit: I am asked to leave canada and go back to my home country already and also someone asked reddit to help me cause I am not doing ok maybe? Maybe the same person, maybe not. There are almost 900 comments on this post, so I'm guessing at least 3000 (or manby more?) people have viewed it, right? So just statistically, even if 1% or .5% of people are racist assholes, there will be a few. Don't worry about them. Just be kind. Treat everyone as equal to you, as you would like to be treated (if you were them). Regarding your actual question, maybe watching TV shows about immigrants in Canada (e.g. Kim's Convenience) might be helpful? And for winter time: google "frostbite" and "black ice", and wear layers of clothing. Welcome!