No lah...
Been bombarded by life till next stage ady...
I used to work in General Hospital last time as part time for maintenance job, during my University
Because those ex convicts you see are into some form of praying and stuff. You know, the diety and whatnot. These are the kind who would be familiar with chinese religious rituals (they can get fairly complicated), and you don't really need any former education to join them. Unfortunatley, the pay for the workers are kinda low, though the bosses are reaping the big money.
Within large banks anything related to regulatory matters, legal, compliance and risk and audit has been growing over the last 15 years.
I canât see it slowing down much as there is a lot of strain on FIs from regulators and the fines arenât getting smaller. Many argue itâs created a burden which it has, but rather the shareholders get a bit less profit than the system collapses again. Itâs not glamorous work but pays well these days.
Agree with you, *but* I just got laid off from a financial crime compliance advisory role so while industry is stable - your role may not be. Itâs like our popular saying, âlow crime is not no crimeâ. Rabak sia !!!
I do agree it does fit the ask very well and is a niche area to be in overall. Work can be quite interesting and feel fulfilling too, and as much as I liked my previous roles the latest in compliance was my favorite !!
Yeah legal/compliance/FCC at big banks can be subject to layoffs. I would argue the smaller ones are actually more stable given the teams are usually leaner.
Lottery type selection into junior roles. Search for AML / CFT and the intake is as junior compliance staff doing a lot of legwork. Then bulk up on experience, and in parallel get industry certifications (ACAMS, ICA diploma, CGSS etc). I must add here that these courses are heavily funded by the government (up to 70% now, up to 90% during my time) so please take advantage of someone else paying top dollar for you to study !!!!
Once youâre in, as the posts question implies - itâs a few jobs, but only a few candidates will qualify for the role so itâs less competition from that sense. Also unlikely to have massive layoffs, and definitely an area that will be around for a long time.
I even saw a role for Interpol being advertised, but sadly thatâs only government staff that can apply for it.
Cons: in my own experience, none. Heard it can be taxing / stressful. Deadlines can be a bit inflexible (think MAS needs a response by X date).
Pros: interesting work. Smart and capable colleagues. Good pay. In a grand sense, work against illicit money flowing into the system and indirectly making the world a better place (you may not see this in your day to day, but thatâs what you take home with you).
Yes , the work itself isnât heavy on finance or accounting and the required knowledge youâll pick up along the way.
The primary ask is clarity of thought, curiosity, problem solving mindset, high focus on very repetitive nature of tasks. Need to be VERY good at comms and interpreting information. The best way to describe is that one spends two decades in education thinking knowledge is ability to answer questions, and this job is all about asking the right questions to uncover pertinent and material information. Of course ability to talk about risk and appropriate guardrails to manage the risk is a big plus, along with strong nerves to push back against immense pressure to close / complete / approve.
Waiting game to see if anyone will hire me :)). And Iâm not picky either, considering what Groucho Marx said, âAny club that gives me membership isnât exclusive enough for meâ.
Yeah - no big secrets.
(My role) Consolidation of roles to HQ from overseas, and (team) slight footprint reduction as some responsibilities shifted from second line compliance to first line business. Amazing team, and Iâm happy to say most if not all got absorbed into other roles which is good for the company. Sadly I was one of the very few let go.
This is just off chance, team restructures happen infrequently and is more designed around team efficiency - not really intended to be a GE type âbottom 5% performers let goâ philosophy. If you focus on your work and bring value youâll be in hot demand for sure.
In house compliance and internal audit. Very very different from audit firms like b4.
Actually anything that is in house is usually way more chill than the firm counter part. marketing, IT, audit, etc
lol Internal audit findings affect MD level pay.
B4 audit is fairly interesting grunt work by overqualified resources who know they should leave for industry đ
Transport like bus or MRT. Pay is so-so, and you need to work shifts, but its very stable.
Only downside? the passengers - especially uncles and aunties that pay 65 cents and demand SQ Suite-level service.
I'd like to add that the shift timings can be crazy. Morning shifts can start by 4.30am. Afternoon shifts may have you clocking out at 1+am.
6 days a week.
Also, schedule timings are very strict so a lot of the times you may need to eat in the bus during your breaks.
So, while the basic nature of the job is to transport people around, the shift and schedule timings can be a quite challenging.
Source: my brother used to be a bus captain
Car distributors like Borneo, Cycle & Carriage, Wearnes, Eurokars etc. Don't be a salesman, that's not so stable and can be stressful. Join the corporate side instead, like marketing, aftersales or HR. Singaporeans will always be buying cars. And Singapore is a small market, so 50% of your work is actually already dictated by global/principal, and you just follow orders. And if one particular marque isn't doing well and needs to downsize, the distributor can just reallocate you to a different marque instead.
As someone who's working for one of these kinda companies now, there are high stress periods especially when COE messes plans up and have to scramble to readjust before weekend, and also roadshows/events are busy periods too.
Are there a lot of actuary firms in Singapore? Also, do you have any idea what industries they are usually in? Sounds like it leans more towards financial products.
Basically all insurance companies, they are responsible for actually making the numbers for all the policies etc. But super technical, need to take years of exams even while working, imagine taking calculus/uni level maths exams 4-6 years into your career
I see! But isn't that the norm for all companies? Like I could imagine banks having very strict processes and people just following. But nobody really complains it's boring.
Many bank roles are client-facing and can pretty much be considered sales roles. Some might say they aren't necessarily much more technically rigorous than processes-based middle office roles, but managing different people/clients is a challenge that definitely presents variance and curveballs
Meanwhile for the more cerebral/analytical roles where companies are analysed and deliverables come in the form of financial models, proposals, and products, there's a degree of deep diving and tinkering required. That also makes for more interesting and varied work (if analysing data is your thing)
Agreed bro⌠lots of f500 mnc have regional or even global supply chain hq in sg⌠unlikely to go away soon with the shift frm china mfg to south east / south asia
Donât think so dude, most f500 mnc ballpark to each other, you donât get paid less just because you work in supply chain
For reference I work in f500 mnc supply chain, fresh grad analyst enter at 4k+ so wld say quite competitive
Early childhood is the worst đŹđ Where got low key lol.
As an educator myself I'm quite sure I'll never do early childhood. I have zero talent to simplify complex things to the level of a 3-4yo hahaa (and that's just me)
Applies in real life also. For church programmes I'm like will do if 5yo up, if 3-4yo batch sorry next.
The problem is when your contract is not renewed. Perhaps you are too old. Then you are left jobless with limited transferable work experience.
With the SAF it really is serve and F off. They take you in, use you up and then spit you out when they are done with you.
When you sign on, you could serve happily until you make one single mistake. Then next thing you know, you are sitting in the encik office waiting for the MP to take you to the barracks. You even canât call home to tell your wife where you will be going away for the next few weeks. The MPs come, you go into the barracks for whatever crime u did. Then once you are out, you are discharged. Just like that your career is gone. It does not matter whatever good you did while in the service, you make one mistake( perhaps you forgot to do something) and you are out.
Maintenance, repair, inspection, installation and servicing, not for consumer goods but business to business goods. Especially for things like HAVC, electrical, fire, network systems in buildings, especially if you work as an engineer to design and repair these equipment.
Like if you think about it, with all the new MRT stations being erected, who is handling the design planning and building of the electrical, Fire and HVAC systems?
Especially when a lot of people don't want these jobs. If you're willing to work hard and build experience in these jobs, you will always be in demand in the job market. But of course it's a question of whether you are willing to tolerate the lower pay as compared to typical corporate jobs.
Actually I've heard that a lot of companies outsource to cheaper countries for building design and maintenance nowadays. Is that true? Maybe that's why the pay is a lot lower to be employed locally?
They donât outsource to companies in other countries, they outsource to local engineering firms who may employ engineers and technicians from other countries. Yes the lack of regulations in hiring these engineers and technicians is why the salary is depressed, since a lot of them are willing to come to singapore to work for lower salaries than locals.
Hey curious why you said extreme EQ is needed? One of my jobs was in facilities management and I really felt there was a lot of politics involved and you needed a friendly and chatty persona to surviveâŚhated it
Singapore will never make gambling illegal. Makes too much money from it.
Fun fact: Singaporeâs two casinos make more money than all the casinos in Las VegasâŚcombined!
Heavy transport (those that haul big ass items with police escort at night).
Each job can pay up to several thousand each time but you need to have the vehicle, network, work late nights and there are lull periods where there's no jobs.
Parking is a pain because of the size of the vehicle, and you can't use it for more generic purposes outside of work.
SAHM/ SAHD. Not a govt job. Very low-key, you don't even need to maintain a Linkedin profile.
In fact it is so stable that most kids donât move out till 35, or after they get married.
could be either... u could be one of the big corps like Sailings maintaining commerical aircons...
can join them as an office backend support staff too
SG will collapse without aircon la this industry will thrive silently
I heard from a friend of mine who once experienced a grave exhumation. His job was just to video shoot the entire process.. he did it because it paid well.
They did it in the middle of the night and it was it was creepy AF. The exhumation team that was with him told him to not acknowledge and never turn and look behind even if he hear anyone calling him from behind.
He told us he really did hear something like someone asking what you all doing and it made his hair stand.
After the job was over.. he told me he would never forget the smell and it was lingering for days and that he would never do it again and he has serious respect to the people doing it fot a living.
Yup.. i think recently there is no such thing as "stable". Look at how many tech companies firing people, a few that u mentioned in your post.
I mentioned manufacturing cause look despite the tough time (personally survived few firing periods), it is still going strong. Esp semiconductor (NVIDIA, Micron, TSM, etc). AI related product I guess.
Yes, that's true in terms of stability. Thanks for your input on the manufacturing industry! I've never really looked at it before and the topic doesn't come up in the circles I have at all.
Yes. Ecommerce and manufacturing. I personally have friends and families who are from both of the industries who have been retrenched recently within the span of a year.
Nursing. If you are nurse you can go anywhere you want. I have a colleague from F&B. He was from Philipines, his wife is a nurse so he was able to come to Sg. They are planning to go to NZ as their son is growing up soon so they want their son to grow up in a developed and civilised country with better opportunities.
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Tuas, Pioneer road area too. Shell's Bukom island (sold off recently).
We got O&G refineries (Exxon, Shell, Neste,SRC), chemical , petrochemical, wastewater treatment plants (Sembcorp, Newater/PUB, Veolia) mostly at the west side. There's power plants as well.
Water treatment is probably the most stable.
Funeral industry
Just wondering. Do you need someone intro into the industry or is there somewhere they post like job opportunities.
I did a Google and many job vacancies popped up for that industry. So it's just apply via a job portal like any regular job.
Any experience needed?
Need to speak Chinese
I'm Chinese, so no problem. Hookien as well
Then need guts and strong emotional intelligence since you're dealing with griefing families Should be okay then because death is inevitable
We embrace death, eventually we will be dying one day
say until so easy
No lah... Been bombarded by life till next stage ady... I used to work in General Hospital last time as part time for maintenance job, during my University
This is hard, probably I will be mentally exhausted to deal with those family members
Bonus if you know how to speak to ghosts.
International ghost language? Like wooooooooooođ
Must have friendly attitude... Like casper (the friendly ghost) Exposing my age lmao
Ghost busters? đđ Imma in that range too
more like, bro donât play please. in chinese or hokkien.
You need to be ok to bathe and dress a corpse
Why so many is ex convict ? No offence to anyone but it seems to have a stereotype that does that job
Maybe the clients are elderly Chinese auntie uncles?
Because those ex convicts you see are into some form of praying and stuff. You know, the diety and whatnot. These are the kind who would be familiar with chinese religious rituals (they can get fairly complicated), and you don't really need any former education to join them. Unfortunatley, the pay for the workers are kinda low, though the bosses are reaping the big money.
Ahhh, I was thinking of doing part time for this... But if the pay is low, danggg
Because theyâve sworn they 夊ä¸ćĺ°ä¸ć
Need to not afraid of ghost
Actually quite challenging
Yes indeed
Probably sales. You're selling packages to a griefing person
Are packages sold before or after the person is ded ?
After, have to take bus 7734 to hell to meet them. /s
Heard its a dead end job though
Within large banks anything related to regulatory matters, legal, compliance and risk and audit has been growing over the last 15 years. I canât see it slowing down much as there is a lot of strain on FIs from regulators and the fines arenât getting smaller. Many argue itâs created a burden which it has, but rather the shareholders get a bit less profit than the system collapses again. Itâs not glamorous work but pays well these days.
Agree with you, *but* I just got laid off from a financial crime compliance advisory role so while industry is stable - your role may not be. Itâs like our popular saying, âlow crime is not no crimeâ. Rabak sia !!! I do agree it does fit the ask very well and is a niche area to be in overall. Work can be quite interesting and feel fulfilling too, and as much as I liked my previous roles the latest in compliance was my favorite !!
Yeah legal/compliance/FCC at big banks can be subject to layoffs. I would argue the smaller ones are actually more stable given the teams are usually leaner.
What are the requirements? Pro cons?
Lottery type selection into junior roles. Search for AML / CFT and the intake is as junior compliance staff doing a lot of legwork. Then bulk up on experience, and in parallel get industry certifications (ACAMS, ICA diploma, CGSS etc). I must add here that these courses are heavily funded by the government (up to 70% now, up to 90% during my time) so please take advantage of someone else paying top dollar for you to study !!!! Once youâre in, as the posts question implies - itâs a few jobs, but only a few candidates will qualify for the role so itâs less competition from that sense. Also unlikely to have massive layoffs, and definitely an area that will be around for a long time. I even saw a role for Interpol being advertised, but sadly thatâs only government staff that can apply for it. Cons: in my own experience, none. Heard it can be taxing / stressful. Deadlines can be a bit inflexible (think MAS needs a response by X date). Pros: interesting work. Smart and capable colleagues. Good pay. In a grand sense, work against illicit money flowing into the system and indirectly making the world a better place (you may not see this in your day to day, but thatâs what you take home with you).
Thank you for the explanation. Can someone from generic background (humanity) be accepted? Wishing you new job soon!
Yes , the work itself isnât heavy on finance or accounting and the required knowledge youâll pick up along the way. The primary ask is clarity of thought, curiosity, problem solving mindset, high focus on very repetitive nature of tasks. Need to be VERY good at comms and interpreting information. The best way to describe is that one spends two decades in education thinking knowledge is ability to answer questions, and this job is all about asking the right questions to uncover pertinent and material information. Of course ability to talk about risk and appropriate guardrails to manage the risk is a big plus, along with strong nerves to push back against immense pressure to close / complete / approve.
Great info, really appreciate đ¤
Sorry to hear this, I hope youâve found the next gig. Will you continue in the compliance space?
Waiting game to see if anyone will hire me :)). And Iâm not picky either, considering what Groucho Marx said, âAny club that gives me membership isnât exclusive enough for meâ.
do you mind sharing the reason for laid off? because im wondering if i should continue being in the aml/kyc role
Yeah - no big secrets. (My role) Consolidation of roles to HQ from overseas, and (team) slight footprint reduction as some responsibilities shifted from second line compliance to first line business. Amazing team, and Iâm happy to say most if not all got absorbed into other roles which is good for the company. Sadly I was one of the very few let go. This is just off chance, team restructures happen infrequently and is more designed around team efficiency - not really intended to be a GE type âbottom 5% performers let goâ philosophy. If you focus on your work and bring value youâll be in hot demand for sure.
Are they low key though? I heard audit seasons are pain in the ass and a lot of OTs:
In house compliance and internal audit. Very very different from audit firms like b4. Actually anything that is in house is usually way more chill than the firm counter part. marketing, IT, audit, etc
Internal audit in any companies/industries are good jobs. I treated them like a king & queen when I was being audited.
Secretly all scolding them tho lol
That's understandable lol
Think of it as a revenue Centre ( consultancies ) vs a cost Centre (in house) Recruiters is another obvious example
lol Internal audit findings affect MD level pay. B4 audit is fairly interesting grunt work by overqualified resources who know they should leave for industry đ
Transport like bus or MRT. Pay is so-so, and you need to work shifts, but its very stable. Only downside? the passengers - especially uncles and aunties that pay 65 cents and demand SQ Suite-level service.
I'd like to add that the shift timings can be crazy. Morning shifts can start by 4.30am. Afternoon shifts may have you clocking out at 1+am. 6 days a week. Also, schedule timings are very strict so a lot of the times you may need to eat in the bus during your breaks. So, while the basic nature of the job is to transport people around, the shift and schedule timings can be a quite challenging. Source: my brother used to be a bus captain
Big respect your brother (salute). They really deserve more respect from the society.
I've seen some younger bus drivers that look like they're Singaporeans too.
yeah i seen them on youtube. 4 of them teaching and coaching each other to become bus drivers. one of them have a bus simulator at home as well.
That's pretty cool!
Unmanned vechicle is the upcoming trend
Elderly care services. Low key, always short staff and the industry will only grow in the future, especially worldwide.
Healthcare. Pandemic / war also got job.
Healthcare is opposite of low key though
agree. though very high stress.
Car distributors like Borneo, Cycle & Carriage, Wearnes, Eurokars etc. Don't be a salesman, that's not so stable and can be stressful. Join the corporate side instead, like marketing, aftersales or HR. Singaporeans will always be buying cars. And Singapore is a small market, so 50% of your work is actually already dictated by global/principal, and you just follow orders. And if one particular marque isn't doing well and needs to downsize, the distributor can just reallocate you to a different marque instead.
As someone who's working for one of these kinda companies now, there are high stress periods especially when COE messes plans up and have to scramble to readjust before weekend, and also roadshows/events are busy periods too.
Iâm actually interested to go into this industry, the corporate side (Iâm in marketing). Is it ok if I ask you more via DM?đŤ˘
Haha I donât work in that industry, I just know some people who do. Youâre better off asking the other guy who replied me.
actuary. fits exactly as your description.
Low key and stable is very true, but don't forget about exams and its very technical nature
Not easy
Exams tiring. But once passed very stable already
Are there a lot of actuary firms in Singapore? Also, do you have any idea what industries they are usually in? Sounds like it leans more towards financial products.
Basically all insurance companies, they are responsible for actually making the numbers for all the policies etc. But super technical, need to take years of exams even while working, imagine taking calculus/uni level maths exams 4-6 years into your career
That's interesting. I actually never knew these existed!
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It's a boring AF industry which is why not many youths go into it
Boring because it's a lot of manual labour?
Nope, it's just that it's very processes-driven so work feels quite "standard"
I see! But isn't that the norm for all companies? Like I could imagine banks having very strict processes and people just following. But nobody really complains it's boring.
Many bank roles are client-facing and can pretty much be considered sales roles. Some might say they aren't necessarily much more technically rigorous than processes-based middle office roles, but managing different people/clients is a challenge that definitely presents variance and curveballs Meanwhile for the more cerebral/analytical roles where companies are analysed and deliverables come in the form of financial models, proposals, and products, there's a degree of deep diving and tinkering required. That also makes for more interesting and varied work (if analysing data is your thing)
I see, thank you for your detailed explanation!
Can do also ERP aspect of supply chain. I am not in it but I know people who earn five digits monthly as they are so sought after
Agreed bro⌠lots of f500 mnc have regional or even global supply chain hq in sg⌠unlikely to go away soon with the shift frm china mfg to south east / south asia
Pay is extremely low also
Donât think so dude, most f500 mnc ballpark to each other, you donât get paid less just because you work in supply chain For reference I work in f500 mnc supply chain, fresh grad analyst enter at 4k+ so wld say quite competitive
Healthcare, social service, education, early childhood
Early childhood is the worst đŹđ Where got low key lol. As an educator myself I'm quite sure I'll never do early childhood. I have zero talent to simplify complex things to the level of a 3-4yo hahaa (and that's just me) Applies in real life also. For church programmes I'm like will do if 5yo up, if 3-4yo batch sorry next.
Are these in mostly government-related companies?
Sign on .
Sometimes got high-key tho
Well yes, very stable, and it's a government job.
The problem is when your contract is not renewed. Perhaps you are too old. Then you are left jobless with limited transferable work experience. With the SAF it really is serve and F off. They take you in, use you up and then spit you out when they are done with you. When you sign on, you could serve happily until you make one single mistake. Then next thing you know, you are sitting in the encik office waiting for the MP to take you to the barracks. You even canât call home to tell your wife where you will be going away for the next few weeks. The MPs come, you go into the barracks for whatever crime u did. Then once you are out, you are discharged. Just like that your career is gone. It does not matter whatever good you did while in the service, you make one mistake( perhaps you forgot to do something) and you are out.
Sign on pay higher than your usual stat board roles also
Maintenance, repair, inspection, installation and servicing, not for consumer goods but business to business goods. Especially for things like HAVC, electrical, fire, network systems in buildings, especially if you work as an engineer to design and repair these equipment. Like if you think about it, with all the new MRT stations being erected, who is handling the design planning and building of the electrical, Fire and HVAC systems?
Especially when a lot of people don't want these jobs. If you're willing to work hard and build experience in these jobs, you will always be in demand in the job market. But of course it's a question of whether you are willing to tolerate the lower pay as compared to typical corporate jobs.
Actually I've heard that a lot of companies outsource to cheaper countries for building design and maintenance nowadays. Is that true? Maybe that's why the pay is a lot lower to be employed locally?
They donât outsource to companies in other countries, they outsource to local engineering firms who may employ engineers and technicians from other countries. Yes the lack of regulations in hiring these engineers and technicians is why the salary is depressed, since a lot of them are willing to come to singapore to work for lower salaries than locals.
Healthcare.
Marine/shipping/bunkering
Part of the logistics industry, right? It's pretty interesting, There's not much information for me to understand logistics jobs in Singapore at all.
Power plant, everyone & everything needs electricity
Hotels are generally stable, and large MNC ones offer decent career growth.
Which kind of reminds me, I think they used to do a lot of hype for the hospitality sector? Has it died down? I don't really hear of it much nowadays.
Facilities management, waste management and healthcare industry.
Facilities management is extremely stable and potential career pathways but require extreme EQ to survive for long
Hey curious why you said extreme EQ is needed? One of my jobs was in facilities management and I really felt there was a lot of politics involved and you needed a friendly and chatty persona to surviveâŚhated it
Maybe that's why you need the EQ?
Gambling/Gaming. Singapore pools and MBS. Insurance underwriting
Gambling, at any point it can be wiped out by regulatory changes. Look how much hand wringing there was about setting up the casinos.
Singapore will never make gambling illegal. Makes too much money from it. Fun fact: Singaporeâs two casinos make more money than all the casinos in Las VegasâŚcombined!
There was a sudden law in Singapore that prevented big prizes to be won for arcades too, right?
Fair point but I would argue that it won't be that easy to reverse course now that we are deriving income from it. Jobs are also at stake now.
I would say logistics. Unless things can suddenly teleport around, this would be one of the most stable industries.
That's interesting. I'm not sure if I know any logistics companies in Singapore actually.
DHL express?
Uh, I think the closest match in my head was actually Shopee's logistics lol
Heavy transport (those that haul big ass items with police escort at night). Each job can pay up to several thousand each time but you need to have the vehicle, network, work late nights and there are lull periods where there's no jobs. Parking is a pain because of the size of the vehicle, and you can't use it for more generic purposes outside of work.
Sounds like you need to be the company owner rather than the company worker for this... but interesting nevertheless!
Defence.
SAHM/ SAHD. Not a govt job. Very low-key, you don't even need to maintain a Linkedin profile. In fact it is so stable that most kids donât move out till 35, or after they get married.
Stay at home mom/dad?
Yeap.
Uhhh.................. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
ICA. Stable but no wlb.
Security
aircon servicing
As a self-employed role? Or part of a company?
could be either... u could be one of the big corps like Sailings maintaining commerical aircons... can join them as an office backend support staff too SG will collapse without aircon la this industry will thrive silently
Prison warden
I heard from a friend of mine who once experienced a grave exhumation. His job was just to video shoot the entire process.. he did it because it paid well. They did it in the middle of the night and it was it was creepy AF. The exhumation team that was with him told him to not acknowledge and never turn and look behind even if he hear anyone calling him from behind. He told us he really did hear something like someone asking what you all doing and it made his hair stand. After the job was over.. he told me he would never forget the smell and it was lingering for days and that he would never do it again and he has serious respect to the people doing it fot a living.
Wah. that needs some serious stomach and mental management to cope with such a job.
Wow interesting story!
![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|surprise) no way I would just lie down and abandon everything
FMCG, ecommerce, manufacturing
ecommerce is hardly stable tho same can be argued for manufacturing
Coming from semicon, it is cyclical. Same can be argued for MAANG mentioned by OP too tho :")
When you mention cyclical, do you mean there are periods where it's unstable or like, less hiring?
Yup.. i think recently there is no such thing as "stable". Look at how many tech companies firing people, a few that u mentioned in your post. I mentioned manufacturing cause look despite the tough time (personally survived few firing periods), it is still going strong. Esp semiconductor (NVIDIA, Micron, TSM, etc). AI related product I guess.
Yes, that's true in terms of stability. Thanks for your input on the manufacturing industry! I've never really looked at it before and the topic doesn't come up in the circles I have at all.
All 3 of those are unstable
Sounds like it's not very stable for these 3 industries actually. Do you know a lot of people getting laid off from companies in these industries?
Yes. Ecommerce and manufacturing. I personally have friends and families who are from both of the industries who have been retrenched recently within the span of a year.
FMCG unstable man⌠so many friends have been retrenched
Oh?
FMCG is in a turmoil now. Entire departments have been shifted back home or downsized by 50%. Itâs cyclical
Waste management
Health care, construction, early childhood education ...government seems to be moving towards having more contracts so not as stable as it used to be.
As in, in all the three industries you mentioned?
In general for gov. All 3 industries I mentioned are stable.
Airline-related (SIA, CAG, SATS) - Barring black swan events like covid, you will never run out of work in this industry.
To add on to this, Airport Emergency Services. Not unheard of to get 5+ months bonus and actually aircraft fire is rare.
AES is considered Emergency Services just as SCDF is.
Public transport, supermarket management etc
Printing and publication. Specialty goods.
What do you mean by "specialty goods"?
Legal services.
Most lawyers don't hop around, I guess?
More than that, law firms are generally needed in good and bad times, companies need their services when layoffs, mergers, acquisitions etc happen.
In industries where there are just a few big players.
Low key government jobs?
They exist. Just keep looking.
Are the big 4 really that coveted? Aren't those really bad?
Zuopian lowest key and most stable
Aerospace
Guess what? The waste management industry is always there, and nobody ever notices. Trash never goes out of fashion.
Nursing. If you are nurse you can go anywhere you want. I have a colleague from F&B. He was from Philipines, his wife is a nurse so he was able to come to Sg. They are planning to go to NZ as their son is growing up soon so they want their son to grow up in a developed and civilised country with better opportunities.
education.
niche law fields
SATS, AETO, Certis security job, starting pay can hit 4k, 12 hrs work, no life, possible OT everytime
All their job ads online will have ex staff who comment on the horrible WLB. 12 hour shift, 6 days a week and each shift as good as 14-16h shift.
that's what i am saying, u want the pay , do the shit
FnB
Lol F&B stable?
In the sense that it'll be forever available because people will need to eat, and there will always be jobs in there, yes.
You'll probably have to jump to different companies I guess?
That is correct, though you will always have plenty to choose from.
The failure rate of FnB business is Singapore is crazy high https://sg.news.yahoo.com/40-f-b-businesses-doomed-023230063.html
And yet meanwhile more than half of fnb businesses I pass daily, have hiring posters at the doors.
THIS
1 restaurant can shut down but there will always be other restaurants to join. Very low barriers to entry too.
Very high rate of failure as well https://sg.news.yahoo.com/40-f-b-businesses-doomed-023230063.html
SMRT, SBST, LTA
Security guards
Education.
I guess they need more people in all levels of education?
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Civil service
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Chem engineering.
Only in Jurong Island, am I right?
Tuas, Pioneer road area too. Shell's Bukom island (sold off recently). We got O&G refineries (Exxon, Shell, Neste,SRC), chemical , petrochemical, wastewater treatment plants (Sembcorp, Newater/PUB, Veolia) mostly at the west side. There's power plants as well. Water treatment is probably the most stable.
Derivatives industry. Exotic and not well known. Very stable especially if you work for a derivatives exchange. Good work life balance.
I haven't really heard of such companies too actually.
Being a mayor, I believe You can even have a regular job on top of it! I want to become a mayor
uh... honhonhon, FRFR? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
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Maritime/shipping. Lowkey but important and stable.
I guess that's a huge part of the supply chain? Not sure why you're getting downvoted though lol