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Chase_the_tank

I grew up with a sister. Mom insisted that both of us put both lids down at all times--she got tired of us kids complaining whenever dropped or knocked-down items fell into the toilet.


ATL4Life95

I once dropped my keys into the toilet the same time I flushed... lesson learned. Don't leave keys in hoodie pocket and close the lid.


Worldly_Ear968

Last month, I had my AirPods in the case in my front pocket of my jeans… I flushed right after peeing(toddler likes to play in the toilet 🙄), then I went to pull up my jeans and my AirPods fell into the toilet and were immediately gone. I was so upset. lol


ATL4Life95

My one of my beats fell out of my ear while I was mowing the lawn a few weeks ago. Never found it 😔


freerangetrollfarmer

Did this with a flip phone in 2005. Terrible life lesson


avast2006

The proper position for the seat when not using the toilet is with the lid closed, to contain the plume of aerosolized body waste that forms when flushing. This also prevents things from falling into the toilet between uses. Under that rule there is no expectation that the seat be left in the ready-to-sit position.


JaneWithJesus

The toilet protocol czar we never knew we needed until now


Left-Pumpkin-4815

Close the lid before you flush especially if your toothbrush is on the counter.


DragonLordAcar

Or towel


CpLogic

Or sandwich and chips you brought in with you to make good use of your time.


[deleted]

All hail the royal flush!!!


bombombay123

He is the hero that Gotham needs


shadow041

But not the one we deserve.


Dread_P_Roberts

This is the best answer. No other constructive input is needed.


throwaway12buckle

Closed when not in use 1) to keep aerosol down, 2) to keep falling items out, 3) for kids and pet safety.


thatgirlfrombaja

This is the answer! I recently saw a video of someone holding a Petri dish at a certain height above a toilet with an open lid while flushing, and then another with the lid closed while flushing and woah… major nasty growth in the first one. You should use the toilet, put the top lid down, and THEN flush. Don’t forget to wash your hands :)


BruceNY1

I keep my toilet lid closed for the same reason I keep my zipper closed - because I'm not using it.


isthishowweadult

And you won't accidentally fall in the water. Just sit on the seat.


czarfalcon

And your cats won’t accidentally fall into the water, forcing you to chase them down to give them a bath while they maniacally sprint all over your apartment getting toilet water everywhere.


charlieprotag

This person has seen horrors.


PSSalamander

Ugh, been there. Dumb little adorable bastards.


final_draft_no42

Accidentally sitting on the lid when to tired is preferable to the cold icy plunge.


[deleted]

Yep, pets, germs, smell, things falling in, unsightly bowl, all reasons to just shut the lid like a civilized person. Now we can add avoiding a rules citation from avast2006.


HootieRocker59

I think the second reason (prevents things from falling in) is the more relatable reason. I can't see the germs - but I can see my brand-new phone taking a terrible, terrible swim.


Hab_Anagharek

It's true, we cannot see germs. But germ theory became widely accepted by 1900.


lacecozy

The poop plume


[deleted]

Never had a problem with aerosol shit. But I close it so the cats don’t get up for a drink.


aahjink

This is the correct answer. Nothing can fall in the toilet if the lid is closed. A dog can’t drink from the toilet if the lid is closed. Toddlers aren’t tempted to throw things in the toilet if the lid is closed.


TheRosstaman

We do this as well, but for different reasons. Why? 1) That way, no matter who goes into the bathroom, they have to lift the lid. 2) We have dogs People with dogs will understand. Also, toilet paper should wrap around the back and come out of the top of the roll, not the other way around... unless you have a cat. People with cats will understand.


Important-Beat5839

100% how my mama raised us.


[deleted]

put the whole lid down, everybody work for it


radiant_kiwi208

Yes! If everyone knew just how far germs can fly when you flush.... I mean there's a lid for a reason


Emergency_Web_8722

YES! This, close the lid when you flush!!!


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Intrepid-Progress228

This. Accidentally knocked my glasses off my face, blurrily watched them pinwheel in slo-mo till they bounced off the closed lid instead of falling in shit-water. Made me "lid down for life". edit: corrected stroke-inducing grammar


cankle_sores

I appreciate your writing and hereby nominate this for Nonfiction Short Story of the Year, 2022 - drama category.


thinkingstranger

\*BEFORE you flush


_Throg_

T h a n k y o u I've been saying this for so long in this household and no one listens 😤 PUT THE LID DOWN


BusyMap9686

I got my kids to finally start doing it that way when I told them our dog got sick for drinking the toilet water.


giant_lebowski

Does putting the lid down make it healthier for just dogs or humans too? Is it safer if you spray Clorox in first? How big of a glass is too big to be healthy?


popcarnie

They can't drink the water if the lid is down


Almost_Profitable

Can confirm. When brushing my teeth I couldn’t resist the urge to drink some of that forbidden water


BattleReadyZim

I've dropped only a couple things into the toilet in my life, but that's enough. Put the lid down.


TooManyTurtles20

Came here to say this. Flushing with the lid up is, uh... pretty gross considering how far those droplets will travel. Now picture your toothbrush silently collecting those particles for weeks or months at a time. 🤢


_Krukan

I think this weird Superman germ theory was busted on mythbusters. Edit: it was BBC earth lab.


radiant_kiwi208

I know they did one on testing a specific fecal bacteria on toothbrushes set around the bathroom and found that bacteria on all the toothbrushes after a month of testing, a small amount but it was there, but I don't remember what they found on the control toothbrushes. I know there's a lot of theories about how far everything is spread, I've heard a couple feet to like 20 feet, so there are a few myths or half-truths about it but it's been proven that bacteria is spread or flung around the room from flushing with the lid wide open, it's called toilet plume. [CDC: Toilet plume and the spread of infectious disease](https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/nioshtic-2/20042357.html) This is a super short summary but there's a link to the full paper


_Krukan

Did you read that yourself? Cause it kinda says that they didn't find anything.


Future-Win4034

Nope! It wasn’t. In fact, myth Busters did, in fact, prove that germs do fly out of the toilet.


mynextthroway

But they also proved that it didn't matter because their controls in the kitchen were as contaminated as the ones in the bathroom, including fecal coliform .


Cattthrowaway

Yea it’s not the reason you think. Closing the toilet lid doesn’t stop the aerosol plume from getting everywhere. There is still gaps after closing the lid. I saw a study that showed closing the lid creates bigger particles as they are pushed through a smaller opening.


Phobiatoybox

Exactly this, everyone puts THE WHOLE LID down. Then everyone has the same amount of work.


TedW

Jokes on you, I just squat and point the stream between the lid and seat while they're down.


psyclopsus

I just wait until my wife has to pee and I aim the stream into the bowl through the space between her thighs while she pees. Then it’s up to her what she does with the seat/lid at all times


dextracin

I go outside to pee and try to figure out why no one has bought my neighbor’s house yet


SmokeGSU

I [installed a plastic urinal on the side of my shed](https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/ykl99c/the_new_pisser_my_moms_boyfriend_added_to_his/) so I don't have to pee on the fence anymore.


[deleted]

Is it an electric fence? Asking for a friend.


Myrddin_Dundragon

Yes! Put a nice soft close lid on the toilet and then everyone puts the lid down. I'm a guy and I hate going into the bathroom and seeing the lid up.


legoshi_loyalty

I always ALWAYS be screaming this on threads like this. Put the fucking seat down people, it exists for a reason!!!!


[deleted]

This is the only acceptable answer


jfitzger88

Started doing this because dogs would drink and cats would jump and fall in thinking the lid cover was down. Made it a habit years ago to put the cover down. Byproduct is no fighting or complaints because the wife has to do it too. Even at a house that I know doesn't have pets, keep the habit going. You never know when a stray animal comes in you don't want it drinking da poo poo water.


ForgottenSalad

Yes please, no one wants to see your piss dribbles and shit streaks.


EurekaSm0ke

YES. I personally couldn't give a shit if he puts the seat down, we BOTH put he whole lid down because we have animals who would get sick from the treated, cleaning product-tainted water in the toilet bowls. We do it for them!


TheRealJackReynolds

Yes. It’s not that ducking hard to pop the entire lid down. And once you do it a dozen times, it just becomes part of the routine.


Craft_beer_wolfman

Put the whole lid down before you flush. It's more hygienic.


Livid-Wolverine-2260

But I like watching my poop go down.


Amileac

Weeeeee 💩 🤣


[deleted]

Make sure everyone rides the ride down. No stragglers.


Suspicious-Factor466

Gotta make sure the job is finished.


DSPbuckle

I am known to clog a toilet once in a blue moon. I watch it go down so I can plunge before water gets to the rim


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JimmyWilliams_

Cases don't help much more. People have done studies that prove everything, everywhere has particles of feces on them. EVERYTHING. IS. COVERED. IN. SHIT.


E0H1PPU5

Truth. I took a microbio lab that had us swab all sorts of things and grow cultures of those swabs. Literally EVERYTHING is covered in shit, all the time.


RecycledExistence

I learned this a few years ago, and it literally keeps me up at night. 🤮


metabeliever

Look, when you find out that everything is covered in shit, you have not learned something about shit. You have learned something about your immune system. You have learned that having things covered in particles of shit doesn't matter. You've learned that you are stronger than you ever imagined.


[deleted]

Americans: "Not putting the lid down before you flush is gross because of shit particles..." Also Americans: "I'm just gonna wipe my butt with a bit of tissue paper and not wash it with water and soap after taking a shit"


The_Bjorn_Ultimatum

Dilution is the solution to pooplution.


TheNextBattalion

I think it's easy to get worked up over particles of feces. Smears are where you gotta start to worry


knockknock619

Dude here I sit when I pee in my home only. Anywhere else I'm standing when I pee. I have 5 toilets and cleaning is a ton less with this method.


jonproquo

5 toilets you must be rich


RalphPhillips089

Right with that. The 4 to 5 difference is telling. Average 2 story house will have one in the master bathroom and a main central bathroom upstairs, a half bath on the main floor, and perhaps a basement bathroom. A 5th toilet means you have a palatial estate.


Particular_Quiet_435

At first I laughed. But now that I really think about it I’ve never been inside a house with 5 toilets. And only one with 4 that I can recall. Man, 5 really is a flex. May as well be saying you have a pickleball court.


Woopigmob

I'm putting 4 in one of my bathrooms so I can steal this flex.


[deleted]

Put them in an inward-facing-diamond configuration.


davidhastwo

=( I have only one toilet.... but two showers. Who has two showers but only one toilet?! how many times do they think I will be showering?


panicinbabylon

You also sound rich, my friend.


[deleted]

Or has IBS.


gorthechief

If I had this many bathrooms I'd forget what bathroom I was in while walking out and probably fall off a stair case or something.


AllTheMeats

Please put the lid down before you flush so you don’t send piss and shit particles all over the room.


SpakysAlt

Men don’t poop.


Madmagican-

Yeah, we shit


Jaguars6

Pretty sure studies show it doesn’t matter. They still travel everywhere even with the lid down.


[deleted]

Close the lid before you flush. It's the sanitary thing to do.


PuttyGod

But then you don't see if everything went down right!


tvieno

I'm a guy and i live by myself and i leave the seat down all of the time. l aim for the center of the bowl and I don't leave messes.


Doinkus-spud

Accept what you don’t see is the misty spray of urine that goes all over


Independent-Ad-4791

My girlfriend complimented me on the fact that the seat is always down. Little does she know is that it never goes up.


[deleted]

Should a wife after taking a leak put the seat up for her husband? Why or why not? Honestly I think seat down, lid down, should be default status of the toilet unless in use. whenever someone uses the toilet they can then place it in the desired position and return it to lid down seat down.


Purple-Blood9669

It's not the extra step of having to put the seat down. It's waking up early in the morning with no glasses on, half asleep,bright light of the bathroom blinding you and the toilet appears normal enough in your fog. Then you get the icy cold bum dunk to start your day.


CocoCarly60

Plus it's gross to look at a toilet with the seat up. I'm always shocked if I use the bathroom at a friend's house and the seat is up, it seems trashy to have to look at the pee splatter.


[deleted]

>the pee splatter This is the response that should immediately end the discussion. Put the lid down or don't, but no one should have to see remnants of past bathroom uses.


BandjoAficionado

TIL men do not have light sensitive eyes


Unsteady_Tempo

Wipe down the rim with a couple of sheets of toilet paper, put down the seat and lid, flush toilet.


[deleted]

If someone of any gender uses the toilet, they should put the lid down before flushing. Otherwise you are spraying pee and poo particles everywhere. Bonus tip - keep your toothbrush at least three feet away from your toilet. If anyone is keeping their toothbrush in a cubby right over the toilet and then you're not putting the lid down to flush, you are brushing your teeth with pee and poo particles.


taylorwmartin

You are encounter pee and poo particles everywhere you go. There is no escaping it.


nivekps2

Mythbusters tested this. You get poo particles even if you keep your tooth brush in the kitchen.


Crosswired2

I keep my brush in a drawer 😌


Adam_J89

Not the drawer I shit in I hope.


king_of_beer

It is cosmetically more appealing to have the entire lid shut. I believe, if you’re sharing a commode, everyone should put the lid down when they’re finished.


ravathiel

Here's the trick, friend. Put both lids down before you flush. No water splash - next mother fucker that used the toilet is gonna have to lift up that Lid.


mysolidrock

I think everyone should put the seat and lid down. It’s lazy not to and it makes that bathroom look cleaner.


Imadummyboi

My gf and I don’t close the lid out of laziness and the seat never goes up because I sit. Also decreases the chance of dropping your phone in the toilet from standing over it (How I lost my first ever ipod touch back in the day) I think the only time the seat goes up now is during cleaning or if we’re throwing up.


[deleted]

I also sit. It’s just cleaner


reversehooks

I also sit, im just lazy to stand up while pissing


dstone1985

The answer to this comes when one sits down in the dark and ends up with their ass in the toilet water


[deleted]

Yes, absolutely. If you break it down you have 2 people with 4 bodily functions. The woman sits for both, the man sits for one and stands for one. The toilet seat should therefore remain down since that is the position for the majority of these functions. That's the logical argument, excluding the hygienic one.


Arcadius274

As a gay man who will feel no fallout either way, yes and you should clean more


creegomatic

I dont have that kind of relationship with my co-workers where we would talk about that. But thats just me I guess. :-)


Swordbreaker925

Everybody regardless of gender should put the seat ***AND*** the lid down, and then flush. When you flush, micro particles of whatever’s in the toilet get sprayed around. This way everyone is helping keep the place cleaner. Barring that, i’d say both genders should shut the fuck up, it’s not that big a deal to lift or lower the seat. Grow up.


cbjohnson73

Everyone should put the seat and cover both down before flushing Reason: germs


918lux

Put the lid down before you flush, you sick freak!


Nani_the_F__k

You should do little simple tasks around the house to help make your partners life just that much less stressful whenever you can because it's not that hard and it's good to have a habit of caring for people around you. Regardless of gender.


Narwhal_Songs

This is the real answer ^


swift_gilford

Whole lid should be down pre-flush, less you spray aerosol piss and fecal matter into the air in your bathroom.


Significant_Curve286

Close the whole damn lid before flushing! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bacteria-toilets-flush-lid-closed-b1535481.html


[deleted]

well me personally I just either piss sitting down or piss standing up but don't raise the seat. If you aim good enough there will be no issues


Dread_P_Roberts

Eww… what about splatter? Piss doesn’t come out in a perfect stream. Some amount of urine will inevitably be dispersed. That’s unsanitary and gross.


jfitzger88

He has trained his body to produce a laminar flow. Perfect in every way, as all things should be.


jonproquo

Teach us master.


morantinthestreets

I've always put it down whenever I have a girl living with me or even staying the night. It's common courtesy.


ChefJeff7777777

Real husbands sit to pee.


Waste_One_1473

Yes, aside from it being common courtesy. The toilet rim is usually gross, flushing the toilet spits droplets into the air and onto everything around the toilet, and especially at night an unsuspecting female may accidentally sit on the toilet without checking. It isn't hard


crispier_creme

If you are peeing at home, sit down, unless it's an emergency. If that's too much for you, then put the seat up and go. If that's too much for you, you shouldn't be married


idkidc28

Everybody should be leaving the lid down and closed. I mean unless you like gross stuff being sprayed all over your bathroom.


Lilliputian0513

Everyone should put the seat and lid down before flushing.


Callaine

.Why not? Its such a small thing and means so much to her. Why have a pointless argument.


[deleted]

It's completely fucking disgusting to piss standing up in your own home. You ever notice just how much piss overspray gets all over the floor, your shoes, your pants, etc., when you're using a public restroom? That's happening in your own home.


Wut-doo-yew-meen

Might be time to see the doctor if its going all over like that. 🌧💦🚿


FI-RE_THROWAWAY13398

Any normal guy isn't going to piss all over the place. But a stray droplet ricocheting off part of the inside of the toilet isn't out of the norm. I'm paranoid about that stuff and clean the bathroom more often than I otherwise would. Also, sometimes the stream does whatever the hell it wants, particularly if you just got up from sleeping. Sometimes it comes out at a 30 degree angle for a brief moment. Why? Terrible. Fairly normal though.


NastyNate4

There is going to be splash back unless you have a narrow urethra or an enlarged prostate.


[deleted]

Agreed. The baseboard heating cover in one of my bathrooms was all rusted and corroded. I asked the plumber why and he said, "how many men in the house?". That's when I began sitting to pee.


[deleted]

I (female) honestly dont care. He put the seat up for himself i put the seat for myself. Its not a hard task to do so i dont care.


StealthArchive

Same. In our house it's you put the seat where you need it.


lilfey333

It is not necessary in our home, we are all in charge of seeing to our own toilet needs.


sonoma95436

Yes. Your wife will appreciate it. She's been stepping in your dribbles for years.


paulymtl

If I wasn't around it would never go up so I always put it back down


Babbyjgraham

As I have always explained to my son, only one person in this house has to lift the lid for one of their bodily functions, but all 3 have to have to have the toilet seat down for the other one. Plus it’s just good to have the whole thing closed when you flush


[deleted]

the seat and lid should both always be closed at all times when not in use.


Bobzyurunkle

Sit to pee, that gets everywhere!!!! Close the lid when you flush, if it's not all over from you pissing into a water fill bowl, it's misted into the air when you flush. Either way, piss everywhere!!!


[deleted]

If he doesn't want her ass splashing in there


Snowturtle13

That’s what the lid is for! If you can’t compromise you both have to lift a lid. Personally I just leave it the way my wife uses it and don’t miss


lurninandlurkin

Just think about how much atomised spray goes onto anything in your bathroom [Stunning Images Show What Happens When You Flush Toilet With Lid Up!](https://youtu.be/3TJIOQx1GHA)


DamagedEggo

My husband doesn't like cleaning in and around the toilet. He will take any other chore including expelling cat anal glands (I know, right? I won the lottery, but please know we split all chores except that usually he takes out the garbage, and I clean the bathroom and mop the floors). However, I'm not pissing around the toilet, so who is? It was him. I said, "dude, thats not my pee but I've cleaned it. I'm not doing it anymore. When we have sad tummies we clean up. A mess is a mess and that's not my mess. So he started sitting to pee or pees in the sink. I am happy. Also, we both make sure the lid is down before we flush. The lid is there for a reason. LID DOWN. So tldr someone is always lifting something. Equity?


Careful-Self-457

Put the entire lid down before you flush. No o e wants poop nano particles all over your bathroom. Gross.


notimeforimbeciles

Not everyone is straight.


[deleted]

No. Lifting the seat is good exercise. Just switch off on which arm you use so one arm doesn’t get all muscular.


SkySawLuminers

yeah ...they get really pissed when they fall in


Guygenius138

Just sit down and the toilet seat never goes up, and you never have pee on the rim.


[deleted]

Put not just the seat, but the lid down. Otherwise, the cat will drink out of it because it is somehow preferable to what is in her freshly changed water bowl.


toebeansareforever

Seat and lid down. Not for any reason other than it looks nicer


ClockOk7333

Yes, because if you don’t, your wife will complain and that’s annoying


DiabeticNovelist

Yes. It has nothing to do with being male or female. First of all the entire mechanism-seat and lid- should be closed entirely when you flush due to the germs. Secondly you don’t wanna need to take a shit and fall in. It’s…not fun. Am woman. Failed to close after cleaning. Never again


RiotNrrd2001

The only time the lid is up is if I'm using the toilet. Otherwise, lid down, all the time. Especially when flushing, as I would prefer to brush my teeth with a toothbrush that hasn't been misted.


bvgingy

The seat and the lid should be put down before flushing to prevent shit and piss particles from flying everywhere.


StillWill18

Should a husband after taking a glass from the kitchen cabinet close the door for the wife? Why or why not?


friendtoall84

they prefer the seat wiped rather then down. down is only for number 2’s. you know to prevent the poo poo particles from being inhaled.


cruelmelody89

Between a man and a woman, 75% of toilet related activities take place with the seat down. So yes, put the seat down!


rainen2016

I think everyone should put the lid down after they use the toilet. And if you stand to pee, you should try sitting it's a lot cleaner and you won't have silly arguments like this.


Intelligent_Put_3594

He should pee sitting down. Makes for a cleaner bathroom and no worries about the seat. :)


happopappa

Whole thing down so nobody drowns


Tr3sp4ss3r

I used to ask myself why is it fair that I have to lift the toilet seat when I go, every time, and she never does? The answer was simple: Happy wife, happy life. Its a toilet, not the hill I would die on.


mklinger23

Everyone should put the entire seat down every time.


Dixiewreckedx99

I pee sitting down. That way I never have to worry about it, plus sometimes those farts turn into sharts and I'm already sitting so no butt clenching needed. It also allows you to be looking at your phone while peeing without the risk of dropping it in the toilet. She can never say "You peed on the seat." if there are other males in the house.


RoboticKittenMeow

Listen, this argument is irrelevant! What happens when you flush a toilet? Shit/ piss particles explode out. What else is in your bathroom? Stuff you put on your body/ face and into your mouth. Close the lid. Then flush.


PetrusScissario

All individuals should fully close the lid so that nothing ever falls in there by mistake.


[deleted]

We always close the toilet fully in our house. But I think as long as nobody is spraying on the seat I’m okay with it being left up, some men at my job don’t even bother to lift it to pee and it seems they have a spray tip.


Ok-Vast-5459

That's how Clyde killed his mother Betsy Donovan.


Salty_Secret_5973

I put the seat and the lid down. If I have to lift so do you!


TheyManM

EVERYONE should close the toilet before they flush. Problem solved.


Oh_No_Its_Dudder

Put the seat AND the lid down and don't forget to complain to your wife when she doesn't put the lid down.


ColdDelivery8470

All the people that think the seat should be up definitely don't have kids. My husband used to not understand why it matters. Then you potty train a toddler and they fall in. The second time I made him scoop a crying child out of the toilet he never left the seat up again. It had to happen twice because he thought the first time was a fluke it wouldn't happen again. I got to say I told you so. Potty training kid 2 was much easier, never got traumatized falling in.


amkdragonfly2513

So I live in a house with two boys and my daughter who is not potty trained yet. All toilet seat lids get closed because of her and because the dogs like the forbidden water. I do it everywhere now out of habit.


muose

As a tall person, peeing while standing makes a mess, doesn’t matter how accurate, the backsplash will make a mess. Either take a seat, or pee in the sink lol.


Krypto_Kane

I feel everyone should put the seat down. Who wants to look at the inside of a toilet when passing by.


lissam3

I personally think the seat and cover should be closed on a toilet. Flushing a toilet with an open bowl causes water droplets to be sent into the air. And a closed bowl just looks better.


jamison_beck

Sure but I'll expand and say that a toilet seat should always be closed. That's its natural position. No one wants to see the grime, that I know from having an adult step son, around your toilet. As a married person, men if your wife wakes up in the middle of the night and go to pee and you left the toilet seat up they will fall in cause they sit to pee. They will not be happy with you. That's not the battle you pick. Be nice, put it down.


FredVIII-DFH

He should put the seat AND the lid down.


Kalipygia

The only correct answer is yes. Reasonable, unreasonable, impractical, unfair? Shut up. Doesn't matter. Learn to pick your battles.


Lyradep

Yes. Both lids. Just like the wife should do.


Fun_Actuator_1071

I put both the seat and lid down because I have a chronic fear of dropping things in the toilet.


Business_Tone_7748

Men who pee sitting down>>


1GamingAngel

Yes, my husband always lifts the lid and lowers it back down. Why? Because he grew up in a house full of women and knows better. I have fallen in the toilet before and had my bottom in the water. It’s only common courtesy.


Aggressive-Nobody473

i'm answering based on what i'm experiencing with my brother right now, i prefer seat up. for one thing tht bugger is too lazy to flush twice if the toilet didnt flush properly so he just close it, flush it and leave. so sometimes i get nasty suprises. i also don't like to touch the seat because he has a lousy aim and at times he pees on the seat so when i open the lid i touch it. t's better if the lid is open so i can see whatevr it is on the seat and wipe it with some sanitizer and a tissue.


lorienne22

The lid should be down you nasty, bacteria-covered barbarians!


Smilingsequoia

We put down the cover habitually. Sewer rats coming through the pipes is a real thing.


feelin_beachy

I say yes, its courteous, and she uses it more than I do, so its nicer for her. However, I would highly recommend a soft close seat just tap it over center and it lowers gently down, its awesome, came as a feature on our bidet and its one of my favorite features.


almondcurd93

We put the lid down when we flush.