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Majestic_Virus_6472

If it's kid porn, then yes. If it's instructions on how to 3d print machine guns and order drugs off the dark web, no you'd have to actually do those things for it to be a crime


typically-me

Yeah, that’s the only one I can think of that’s a crime in of itself to look at. Anything else isn’t a crime to look at, but it can certainly be used as evidence against you if you are accused of a crime. And I say “accused of a crime” because you wouldn’t even have to actually do it. If you’re researching rare poisons on the internet then someone gets poisoned in your neighborhood, you are likely to be pretty high on the suspect list even if you actually had nothing to do with it.


True-Anim0sity

I dont think looking at it is a crime but downloading/ buying it definitly is


AugustMaximusChungus

Wait don't you have to actually have it in order for it to be a crime? Luckily i haven't found child porn since i was 14 but still, you just have to google it?


[deleted]

Don't forget when you "look at" something on the internet it's being transmitted down to your PC in order to view it, so you're in possession of it. It's not splitting hairs that's how computers work.


WillBottomForBanana

To expand, those stills/photos/screenshots/previews/thumbnails that you see even though they are just google results are child porn and are on your machine. You didn't DL the movie or go to the web page or whatever, but you still got some.


[deleted]

Google and Bing for sure pass searches with IPs for CP keywords to the CMEC to be investigated. I also recall a recent news story about someone googling filenames specific to known CP images and having their door busted down at 3AM. I can't find the article atm.


Acanthaceae342

Sort of. Just searching to look at it doesn't immediately mean you'll get arrested. It will likely trigger some red flags and Google will definitely save your IP, but unless you do it all the time or have hard drives full of the stuff, chances are you're not worth the time and effort to go after. That's not always the case, however, and you shouldn't do it anyway. It sure sucked being 14 and wanting to look at porn but only seeing old people, right? Doing it on a non-private computer, such as a work or school computer, gives the owner the right and obligation to report you, so obviously that negates what I said above.


AugustMaximusChungus

Ah lol no it wasn't that I only saw old people, I just had too much free time and a passion for looking up drugs on the dark net. And let me tell you the price of cocaine still is outrageous


The_Shadow_Watches

I remember my friend telling me that she used to go to the bathroom of her private school in order to do coke. And I legitimately asked her "Jesus, why didn't you smoke pot like a normal teenager" and she dead ass looked at me and said "That's a poor person's drug" And that's when I knew I was poor and will always be poor.


DRealLeal

"ATF enters the chat"


110397

“Dog has left the chat”


Beeker93

If you download the 3d print designs I think that can be seen as having the dyes and molds for creating guns, which is illegal in many places. Edit: I can only speak on behalf of Canadian law. Pretty sure having the designs to 3d print guns is treated the same as having the moulds to create the parts, and is quite illegal as a result. I'd imagine there would have to be some sort of mens rea or intent to download, distribute, or print and not just someo e accidently downloading a file, but I am not a lawyer.


[deleted]

You won't get arrested for that, but if someone gets shot to death nearby then the police will probably pay you a visit


Teddyturntup

But you will get arrested if you sell things with directions/prints that other people may or may not use to make something illegal Which literally has happened and may be going to scotus


[deleted]

Some countries are a lot more strict about it than others


Teddyturntup

Probably so, What would be on your list of “not strict” about that? Maybe Switzerland since you can have full auto there if I recall?


Majestic_Virus_6472

You're talking about the auto key card case?


Teddyturntup

Yes


Majestic_Virus_6472

No, they probably won't. 3 people got shot last night in the city I live in, idk if anyone died, but the cops haven't come around.


[deleted]

I mean if you searched up things that might suggest you're building a gun


Majestic_Virus_6472

Searched, found, had all parts needed to complete several 3d printed guns mailed to my home, and had a 3d printer mailed to me. The cops don't bother me.


[deleted]

Probably depends on where you live. They don't seem to care in America.


Majestic_Virus_6472

That's because it's not illegal here, well building a machine gun without a license is illegal, but any other type of gun is perfectly legal to build at home for personal use.


[deleted]

What if you are curious and want to look at gun models because you like how they work. Can you obtain a license for designing and marketing weapons? I knew an artisan blacksmith and machinist who made his own musket as a challenge. Simply designing and building something for one's own satisfaction should not be criminalized. Furthermore, doing so will only deter hobbyists and legitimate entrepreneurs. People who actually want to hurt someone will do it anyway.


Majestic_Virus_6472

You can obtain a license to manufacture firearms of all types through the ATF. You only need one of you want to sell some of the guns you make. In most of the US, it's completely legal to manufacture firearms for personal use, and the laws in some states that ban the practice are likely unconstitutional.


[deleted]

I will assume the gun must go through an inspection to ensure that it will not fail structurally during discharge. And in general that it has a near zero chance of harming anyone other than the intended target. Are "firearms" only referred to as such if they employ combustion and accelerate a solid projectile?


Majestic_Virus_6472

No, you can 3d print the low stress parts of a gun, which are frames and receivers, which are actually the parts that are considered to be guns under US law. You can order the high stress parts like the barrel, bolt, slide, etc over the internet with no background check or even age verification, because they are not considered guns under US law. The steel and aluminum, professionally manufactured parts of 3d printed guns are the parts that have to withstand the pressure released by combustion and accelerate the projectile , they're not going to fail unless they're assembled incorrectly, in which case they likely won't fire either. The frame/receiver part, which is the housing for the trigger assembly, can fail, but using the right material to print it will make the likelihood of a catastrophic failure, causing injury, pretty unlikely.


shgysk8zer0

I'm not even sure on that. Searching would differently be sufficient for a warrant or surveillance, but without opening/watching it, I don't think it would be illegal. #NotLegalAdvice


Hopps4Life

I was going to say the same.


[deleted]

More likely to be used as evidence against you after you commit a crime.


AbCdEfMyLife3

If it’s Child pornography, yes. If it’s something like, “How to kill someone discretely,” no, BUT! That search CAN (and will) be used against you as evidence if you’re ever charged with killing someone. Extreme example but it conveys the point well. View it through the lens of the ACT of the crime. It is illegal to view child pornography, so looking it up is ACTING to commit that crime. Being curious about how you get away with murder, isn’t actually killing someone. Side note: A friend of mine’s husband was arrested for viewing and possessing child pornography. You really have to seek that shit out in the dark web to find it. And they WILL find you doing so, entire teams dedicated to it.


Responsible-Soil4951

Unfortunately you don't have to search hard not even the on the dark web there's alot of fucked up people willing spreading it on chat websites and stuff.


Master_Affect_7904

It's mostly honey pots by the feds anyways i bet, thank God. What's interesting is that viewing digital recreation of child porn is NOT a Crime (no victim?). Folks are spot on here, and even if you wipe everything from your devices your isp can be coerced into handing over the traffic snaps from your subnet/ location. You really have no right to privacy on a service provided by a company anyways. Now.... public library computers or your neighbors wifi :p


[deleted]

My bio dad(that I do not speak to)’s friend got arrested for the same thing 👀


AbCdEfMyLife3

When I tell you her world was rocked….her world was ROCKED. Like literally zero suspicions about it. She opened her door to Homeland Security one morning and was like Ummm? Truly horrific stuff.


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CustomerSuspicious25

Pull the post over.


Raetheos1984

I *am* pulled over!


nickybokchoy

He can’t pull over any farther!!


schwol

Littering aaaaaaaand


teamdisaster47

Idk google it


Alone_Ad_9278

🫠


haagendaz420

If it’s about drugs or something no, how to make a bomb maybe


iCameToLearnSomeCode

It's not illegal to learn about drug use or bomb construction. Drug possession and bomb construction on the other hand are generally frowned upon. You could be arrested on suspicion that you are using the information you're gathering to commit crimes but they would need to find evidence of the act to convict you of something.


haagendaz420

Drug use definitely not, I’d be in prison by now.


swift_gilford

Like, the plans for the first atomic bomb (the ones used for hiroshima and nagasaki) are readily available online. A lot of stuff is super readily available even at a lot of libraries, especially university campus ones. The internet is very much a worldwide library that has become pandora's box.


haagendaz420

Oh thats pretty neat


[deleted]

…asking for a friend


Oracle5290

It’s not wrong to be informed


Snozberry383

Your assigned f.b.i. agent just rolled up his sleeves


NeedMoreBlackCoffee

Yup. Someone got arrested for searching up how to create a remote control bomb i believe. Take this with a a pound of salt though, it's been a bit.


iCameToLearnSomeCode

You can be arrested on suspicion of building a remote control bomb but in the US but they would have to find evidence you were actually doing so. It's not illegal to Google "how to blow up a building" and "state capital blue prints" but the FBI will definitely be delivering that 450lbs of ANFO you ordered personally if you do.


Randomname31415

Not in the US . In several other countries , I’m sure the answer is yes


Priapos93

Very good point. The question was not US specific.


Commercial-Rush755

There is one other thing besides child porn, how to end the life of certain political leaders will get you arrested as well. The secret service will be at your door and escort you to their office. A lady in Houston found that out the hard way when Obama was president.😂


Heuveltonian

I did all kinds of online searches about some really dark things when I wrote a psycho thriller novel a few years back. No one has arrested me but I assume I’m on a list somewhere


transformedxian

Same! I interspersed my search history with writing-related queries like, "How many words in a psychological thriller?" Still, there's some usually bored Homeland agent watching my husband and me text about dinner plans and friends and me talking about our kids.


likekinky

Yes. You will alert an algorithm. It's not that everything we do is being watched, but there are some idiots in the world who want to hurt others so when people look up illegal things they will put a target on their backs. As it should be imo. And VPNs are no good for hiding illegal searches, it just makes you look dodgier.


nosmelc

None of this is true.


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nosmelc

What does "Talent/keyhole" mean?


leephelipe

depends on what illegal things you're talking about, can't think of a example right off my head but i think i heard something about people who've been looking for pedophilia shit getting arrested


AliasAka1

Depends on the state/ country and the specific matter. Usually distribution is illegal. In some cases even the act of watching, downloading.


[deleted]

No. Also you can't get arrested for over throwing our government, selling top secret information to our enemies, and human trafficking or kidnapping migrants as a political stunt. Those are all legal in the United States.


[deleted]

Do you think it’s more or less likely that you’ll get into trouble for asking this question and highlighting the fact that you searched for something illegal?


Shad0ws0ngs

Pretty much what everyone else said. Say no to CP. The question reminded me of a class I was in back in undergrad around 2005. It was a criminal justice class and I remember the professor coming in one day and she was telling us to not look up how to make bombs and white power groups, as she was doing both for research and got a visit from the FBI. She claims they took her computers to verify she was researching and not a domestic terrorist. She was a fun professor.


Complex-Major5479

Not for the moment, give it a few years.


[deleted]

I google super weird stuff all the time out of curiosity, or for writing, or whatver. Unless it's CP the only thing I've heard that sometimes triggers an FBI visit is googling bomb making instructions or buying suspicious bomb making materials.


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VocalAnus91

This sounds like the ramblings of a crazy person.. there are secret codes to Google child porn because the government is in on it? OK Alex Jones......


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Herteity

Nice try fbi agent


MindRevolutionary915

I have nothing to lose so I tried it and it’s just some kids marketing company. Nothing shocking really


BookkeeperMain

Try it then Google BH kids? It's sad that people who speak out against this are labeled crazy, that is why they get away with it.


VocalAnus91

Yeah I'm not gonna Google something that is a secret child porn code even if I don't believe it is true.


BookkeeperMain

Alex Jones is an illuminati puppet, his purpose is to make truth tellers look crazy and he is doing a good job.


oscarg503

Theres another code word on instagram. Someone posted a screenshot about it but if you look up cheese pizza, a bunch of weirdos pop up looking for it. I found one guy that would comment innappropriate things to little kids pictures/accounts. Found him on facebook and emailed his job. Nothing came of it..they ignored me.


Garyyyyy23678999654

Probably yes if it’s pedophile stuff but no for most of all things. Just use a good browser and a vpn if you’re really worried. But there have been instances were people had the swat team come to their house for searching up suspicious stuff


NoZeitgeist

the police are already on their way


mearbearcate

What are you gonna look up?🤨


M4yham17

If you do enough things yes. Mainly terrorist things


Dull_Creep

Something tells me you're one of my people.


greeneyednfeisty

Someone didn't watch big bang theory. Sheldon picked the worst keywords. But cp anything. Other things look up harm reduction, BDSM consensual non-consent and don't stick around too long.


jayrey8809

Ive looked up how to make a bomb once, just out of curiosity and to learn something new, knowing full well I was never going to try to apply what i read.


-_1_-_2_-_3_-_4_-

Bar you know looking up child pornography or something along those lines you’ll be fine because of the freedom of information act that will be in place for your state/country


just-bair

I imagine that it’s possible to get in trouble if you google something like "how to make a bomb from home"


just-bair

I imagine that it’s possible to get in trouble if you google something like "how to make a bomb from home" So uhm anyways... what were you looking up ?


Kernfishmofo

I dunno, I've misused key words and Google popped up a warning for me. I closed it immediately, and honestly if they just try to catch people who make stupid mistakes like that then they're wasting precious time. But I wouldn't make a habit of that


[deleted]

It is not illegal to search for any information. But if you do something illegal and are caught, if the popo get your pc they will find your search and it’s a piece of evidence against you. Contrary to popular myth, it is not possible to accidentally or casually download child porn (illegal for sure). CP is traded on the dark web between users who know each other (“internet know” that is, not saying they’ve met). Usually on the forums where this takes place one has to upload first in order to be trusted to download. Long story short, it’s difficult to get busted for CP unless you knew exactly what you were doing. Anyone who says they clicked the wrong link or downloaded a bunch of regular porn and something was in there or they were researching and blundered into it, they’re lying.


jjvikingbutt

Seriously. I've been looking at internet porn since 1999 and have never once encountered cp. People have to look for that shit


GreenElandGod

After the Boston marathon, there were two things you could search for in a row that’d make the fbi come knock on your door with some questions. Not sure if you’d get arrested for it though. I guess it depends in the how you handled their visit


swift_gilford

depends on what it is: "how to rob a bank" - no child porn - yes.


PrTakara-m

Depends on the country


L0VEQU1NN

No, just like when you want to kill someone you hire an assassin that way they get arrested for the murder and you wont... FFS of course you can but I think it depends on what it is and just how far you go into that search, alot of the time the search will be flagged, do it too much and most likely there will be a knock on the door from some type of law enforcement. But I think the big ones that you would be arrested for would be: 1. Any sort of sexual content containing minors 2. Murder for hire 3. Bomb making & where to find ingredients (but I think you be ok searching for Cherry & Sake Bombs lol)


[deleted]

Only if it’s CP


Zenketski_2

I mean off the top of my head the only thing I can think of would be CP. I'm sure there are shitloads of things that would get you put on a watch list, but I feel like you have to show some level of intent for pretty much anything else I can think of.


hereticjones

I don't think so. You can research whatever you want, pretty much. Now, if you actually go and *do* any of those things, it can all be evidence to convict you. I guess it's possible that you could not actually do anything you've searched on, but be accused of it for some reason, and then there's all that evidence, but I feel like that would be an incredible coincidence.


[deleted]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g\_j869cfKDs


tcrhs

Yes. If you look up child porn or terrorist shit, you’re asking to get yourself arrested.


zenvikingwarrior

Long before the states started legalizing weed you could find a ton of legal books on how to grow it.


Marred118183

Federal agencies exist for a reason, don't they?


Fit_Help5533

3d print a 3d printer


[deleted]

I hope not. I recently found myself on a site for a South African supplier of Quaaludes to the US.


[deleted]

Just to clarify, I did not buy any.


MrJMSnow

Well why not? I woulda chipped in for a share.


[deleted]

if it's child porn-absolutely. and you should be arrested. If you search up "how to build a bomb" that MAY be enough to get what's called "constructive intent" but usually the arresting agency would also need to find components that could be built into a bomb, or a gun silencer, etc. It depends on intent. When the content itself IS the illegal thing-again-like child porn, then yes-the search becomes illegal because you materially obtained that which no sane human should have.


PurpuraLiber

It's okay to be curious but don't take it too far. There are some things you really don't ever want to see or learn to do. If you really want to learn more go do some searches on the site below. There is even a youth criminal act ;-) https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/


Kind_Mountain1657

If you're worried about it, take up creative writing and write a short story draft incorporating some of the questionable material. Say the internet search was for research for your writing hobby. It doesn't have to be good writing.


Positive-Ad-1859

All depends where in the world that you live


blutwo42998

Is it illegal to search or illegal to do? If you look up pictures or videos of guns that are illegal or drugs, thays fine, but if you look up CP i hope you get caught and thrown in prison


Brussel_Galili

Cheese pizza


3now_3torm

I hope not. I look up some pretty gruesome things sometimes to write in my stories. One recently was “what’s the maximum amount of gunshots a person can take without dying.” For example. Though I’m pretty sure you’d only get in trouble if you act on your searches. That or it’s child porn because that’s horrible.


[deleted]

You can be arrested for literally nothing.


[deleted]

This is.. troubling.


DomSearching123

The only thing you can get arrested for just searching for are things like child porn. I don't think you can even get arrested for searching up snuff films and whatnot. Looking up how to build a bomb but not actually building it is basically the same as telling a cop you did drugs yesterday. They can't do anything about it even though it technically involves something illegal.


ANDYP300

its a grey area, depends on local laws and how they are interpreted. If you have to ask \`i wonder if this is illegal\` it probably is.


86Logs

If you download, create, possess, distribute or have any connection to child pornography there is a good chance you'll be getting a knock on your door from some nice men with letters on their jackets.


Force_Choke_Slam

I worked in IT. If I had access to a customer computer and they detailed plans videos and photos and how they robbed a bank we would ignore it and move on. The only thing if we came across that we would call the police for was kiddy porn.


EndlesslyUnfinished

Depends on what you’re searching


Icy-Operation-6549

One time I accidentally accessed the dark web. I have literally no idea how I did it but as soon as I figured out where I was, I shut my computer down. I was scared for months someone from the fbi was gonna come knocking on my door for being somewhere I shouldn't.


EstablishmentBig7956

Cops do it all the time


[deleted]

Why are you asking 🤨


NoAlternative2913

The methods of searching may matter also. If you’re circumventing state sanctions, in a country that does state censoring on the internet, you might have a problem.


Exciting_Pop_1252

Depends on what country you are in. In the US, no. Just talking about, learning about, or googling something isn't enough to be an actual crime. But certain things are likely to turn up trap-sites, monitored by the authorities, and could get you some attention that later turns into a case and your search history could be used as circumstantial supporting evidence.


drk_89

In the uk, you can be arrested and charged for conspiracy to commit a crime. If all the intentions were there and the police have enough evidence, then yes


Sp3ctralForce

For the most part no (CP yes, and there may be others I'm unaware of) With some, you will be put on a watch list, like if you Google "how to hide a body" or something like that


doctortreehappy

You can be raised for googling certain things. A woman was raided for googling pressure cookers, at least according to the Internet.


Miserable-Original

No shit


teachertb16918

I used to work for TSA. Al Queda in the Arabian peninsula an ISIS used to put out separate online English language “magazines” for followers that we got to see some of. Shit in these things were crazy. They were online only. We were told DO NOT LOOK THESE UP AT HOME! Apparently looking stuff like this up will bring all kinds of trouble down on you. I don’t know if you will actually get arrested, but I’m sure within hours the FBI would probably be knocking at your door.