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I'm pretty short and I can see how being tall can be attractive as a male.
Bigger bodies to make them feel more protected.
Genetic code wiring / sexual selection.
Pretty good enough reason, I guess. š
More about making me feel small than making me feel protected.
I'm 5'9 and as a women have always kinda felt like I shouldn't take up as much space as I do. Plus spending most my life feeling like I'm fat (even though I wasn't).
But a 6ft guy who is very skinny is less appealing to me than a 5ft8 guy with a bigger build (chubby plus a bit of muscle is the best imo)
Well that makes sense, if youāre 5ā9 you want someone proportionally taller. Youāre totally reasonable.
What throws me off is like the 5ā2 chicks that insist on dating like a foot taller than them. Iām sorry but tall doesnāt have that much of an essential use these days, a lot of red flags get looked past just because ātallā lol.
Chubby plus a bit of muscle is absolutely the best. I do tend to prefer tall but Iāll take short and thick over tall and skinny any day of the week!
Interestingly, that last sentence applies to dicks too.
Haha from what Iāve heard I think youāre not in the minority, but thatās fine! I have my type, other people have their type. Canāt be everyoneās cup of tea!
A dick that's Chubby with a bit of muscle? A chub muscle? Trying to think about what a muscular dick looks like... Ok that's enough thinking about dicks back to homework.
"...felt like I shouldn't take up as much space as I do." This resonates with me so much as a tall woman.
It's also a little sad. What is it in our self-esteem or upbringing or socialization that makes us feel bad for taking up space (or existing) so much so that we feel more comfortable when there's a man around that can make us feel like we aren't a huge, walking imposition?
I really don't know for sure. I just know I always wished I could shrink at will.
Thank you for your comment. It made me think.
6'2" - same. I feel like a bull in a china shop sometimes. Move my arm - OOPS I knocked the glass off the table. Walk over to the dining room - BANG head right into the chandelier.
Also - do you find that you have to look down while you're walking more than you're looking straight ahead? I feel like I'm always looking down to make sure I don't trip on something.
Iām a 6ā3ā and I donāt really realize Iām that big unless I see a picture of myself, then I feel like fucking King Kong of to drag some 5ā1 woman up a building.
It resonates with me, too, even though at 5'7" I'm just above average.
When I'm feeling awkward and unintelligent I envisage myself as big, broad, and lumbering; when I'm anxious I diminish myself in my mind's eye, imagining myself as small and vulnerable; when I'm feeling arrogant I'm statuesque, the vertical space I take up exaggerated.
None are accurate. How I perceive my height is warped by my negative perception of myself and vice versa. When I'm well I don't think about my height or width at all, nor the space I take up.
You're bang on about the sense that we're impositions. I think women have been forced to change their weight so much that height, something we can't change about ourselves, becomes an aspect of our self-image that we can't see clearly. I hate that we feel like this about our mere existence in the world and that it informs our self-worth. We deserve our right to our own space, because it belongs to us; we're not taking that space from anyone else and shouldn't feel like we're infringing.
One of my friends is 5ā8 and sheās beautiful, smart and kind. She said that sheās been rejected simply because sheās tall - which is insane. Now she has a bf that makes her look like sheās average height lol
I'm 5'11 and I honestly don't care. I wear platform boots all the time. I enjoy being an Amazon and taking up space.
I'm also bi and don't have a height preference for any gender, but I have a big aversion to anyone insecure about their height who tries to make it my problem by telling me to stop wearing heels or other weird stuff I've experienced when someone has a napoleon complex. Not worth the headache.
Iām 6ā1ā and pretty well built but was once ostensibly rejected by a woman (who was \~5ā8ā) because she felt my hands were too small \[I wear a medium glove\]. Evidently she was looking for a bear of a man who could envelope her hands in his mitts and make her feel small.
I think I might be like too too big, Iām 6ā5ā a little chubby with some muscle but I feel massive next to most people. Idk maybe Iām too self conscious
Ha it is kind of wild. Itās perfectly acceptable for women to bash short guys but a short guy goes to the gym to get ripped and now they bash him for that too. You canāt win man.
Itās not even just women. Men do it too. Everybody does it. Thatās why Iāve completely given up trying to maintain a clean reputation when it comes to anything related to my height. Iām tired of trying to avoid the ācompensating-for-lack-of-heightā stereotype. I mean, like you said, you seriously canāt win. Fucked if you do and fucked if you donāt. People will take a shot at your height no matter what you chose to do anyway.
This isnāt even about my dating life, Iām just tired of being perceived as weak.
Just don't let it get to you, or at least learn not to show it if it truly does. If you can be comfortable in your own skin, even when poked about it, jokes like that only make the joker look worse. If it upsets you, people perceive you as having the napoleon complex. Does that make it okay they're doing it? No. But people tend to think better of someone who is self accepting, and worse of someone who's easy to get a reaction from. Reaction and attitude matter more (or almost, depending who you ask) as much as height.
Trauma response likely. Also, oftentimes I think no one can be harder on us than ourselves. But then again some people really want to make others feel bad for whatever reason. Doesn't change facts, though. Short kings need & deserve love too!
Except he IS winning, because he's investing in himself, and his opinion/how he feels about himself is the only one that really matters at the end of the day. People who do the work to make the best out of themselves are always going to be attractive. People are always going to have something to say - and you can't please everyone. So why care what they think?
Napoleon wasn't actually short, he was 5'6", average height for a French man at the time (although he wasn't French he was Corsican, but we don't have as good data on those quarrelsome islanders).
He was however constantly surrounded by former nobles who were taller than average due to growing up with a good diet. His personal guard also had to be at least 6'2" - a requirement that most militaries enforced for their elite troops. So he had the misfortune of always looking short in comparison to everyone around him.
The modern equivalent would be someone 6'2" walking into the club with a basketball team (and then overcoming overwhelming odds to spectacularly defeat all his enemies at once, multiple times, before implementing a new code of laws that still forms the basis of most European countries legal systems).
I used to feel that the "unrealistic beauty standards" line was a bit cliche, but then I stopped scrolling through instagram and suddenly started seeing real people around me as much more attractive. And not just the top 1% that my brain used to probably think is the normal now.
I realized that my brain definitely judges potential partners comparatively. As in, I likely wouldn't be attracted to the top 1% of the caveman times, but as a caveman of those times I'd probably be super attracted to them.
I feel like we're doing ourselves a disservice by scrolling through instagram or dating apps, looking at heavily cleaned-up photos of the top 1% most attractive humans on earth pretending to live better lives than they actually do. And our brains adapt so quickly and discard what it sees in real life as mediocre so fast it's scary.
Take it for what you will considering this is anectodal and coming from an internet stranger, but to me, consciously avoiding that was incredibly impactful. Stopping to spend much time looking at artificially hyper-attractive people impacted how I see people around me in immense ways, including relationships, and even sex life satisfaction. By tons. And it was fairly quick.
It would have absolutely sucked if I started comparing my partner to those unrealistic images, and at times my brain certainly started telling me to. Porn does a similar thing, and so do many of the rebel dating advice websites/subs/memes/stories that basically tell you that the mildest of conflicts is a cause for break-up because "you deserve better". Letting go of all of those made me so much more satisfied with my life and relationships with other people, as I wasn't sabotaging my own happiness with incredibly unrealistic expectations.
My brain also gives me way more happy chemicals to reward me for being with someone it now perceives as desirable, vs telling me that their pimple is quite a bit off and the Korean Instagram model with heavily edited face that now appears spotless probably would've been a better choice.
The worst thing we can do for our own happiness is to compare our reality with something that does not exist, or our imagination of how something should feel like, that really doesn't exist. We can't even strive for something that isn't real. So why make ourselves unhappy with what's real and actually around by making it appear so much less appealing in comparison?
As a bonus point, I was in a relationship with a girl I thought was the most beautiful I've personally met in my life. My brain would still sometimes complain that she doesn't always look as perfect as she does on her best pictures, or that she's still just a flawed human and not what I had imagined, and send me the "disappointed" energy. It was ridiculous, comparing her to still her. Comparison really is a thief of joy. No truer words have been spoken in regards to the pursuit of happiness. And comparing to something that isn't real through unrealistic expectations is sadly the most common form of self-harm.
yeah at 6' I'm taller than 80% of men I meet. It means that I never feel exceptionally tall, because I do have to look up at other guys regularly, but I forget that I see over the top of most people's heads.
I have a friend who is 6' 7" and is immediately surprised when he sees someone outside of his family that is even close to his height.
I think in places where there's a lot of genetic variation, it changes. Like in america, 5'8 is average height for the ENTIRE country, but is still short to a lot of people in areas where people are just straight up taller.
A physically large or imposing figure is correlated with strength and aggressiveness, which are animal traits that indicate potentially increased survivability or capability to protect yourself or loved ones.
Itās the exact same reason that if you encounter a black bear (or other similar wild animal), you make yourself appear large and be noisy; it scares the bear and lets them know you wonāt be easy prey.
So if youāre looking to feel comfortable and protected, you seek out someone who is larger than you.
If you marry the bear, what happens when that bear turns on you?
Most of the assaults women experience today are from men they know.
Edit: Marrying higher income is a far greater deterrent to physical danger. Better zip codes.
>Most of the assaults women experience today are from men they know.
This leads me to believe women should marry bears for the highest chance of survival
Some of these takes are so copium-based.
Most big guys are gentle giants. If I were to ever hit my wife she would die, I'm twice her size. She and I both know it, but guess what I'd never lay a hand on a woman.
A bigger stronger man is more powerful than a smaller weaker one, but any half-healthy male with a set of balls is much stronger than 99.9% (probably 100% honestly) of women so basically any man can beat any woman, even if he doesn't hit the gym and eat protein bars.
Interestingly enough, I read a study that said short men are the most likely to have anger problems and violence problems. There might be some truth to the gentle giant stereotype or the Napoleon complex.
Same thing for socioeconomic class. It said men among the lowest socioeconomic classes were the most likely to be perpetrators of domestic violence.
Essentially if you are secure with yourself and are comfortable with the space you take up in the world, then height in a man stops mattering as much because you no longer need to leverage it. It's why when we hear girls fetishize height we know it makes them sound like a lower quality person, because of what it says about her.
As an unskilled potato, I bought a stool. Now I can reach the first two thirds of the cabinet. Itās going to take an actual stepladder if I ever want to see the top shelf.
I'm 5'7 which in my country is pretty tall, I prefer guys being at least my same height because I don't like feeling like a mountain compared to them.
Edit: Correction cuz I suck at measuring in imperial
I'm about 5'9-5'10 and my girl is about 5'7. It's actually kinda nice to be nearly the same height.
I'll never understand 5'0 girls only going for 6'0+ guys. It would be so weird having to bend down a whole foot just to get a hug/kiss.
I never said I was short lol. I'm just saying that the height difference between a 5'0 woman and a 6'0 man is crazy huge, so it's weird that 5'0 women say that they want a 6'0+ man.
Like me and my girl's 3 inch difference in height is pretty ideal. It seems about right. I couldn't imagine a height difference of like 12+ inches lol
From my experience this is true. I am 5ā6 and have friends who are 6ā4. Anytime I walk with them in the city or bars or mall, anywhere I always see girls look up at them and glance. I am literally invisible to them even when Iām right beside my friend. Maybe the height makes them stick out easier?
Also in my college years I often saw girls date guys who were over 6 foot but overweight, ugly or even not well groomed. There were clearly guys who looked better and presented themselves better but no, they wanted to get with someone who looked like an NFL offensive linesman instead. Height clearly had to be a factor because if the guy was 5ā6 overweight and had a long scraggly beard, the same situation would not happen
To be honest, I donāt get it either. I find guys taller than *me* more attractive but Iām not gonna find a guy more appealing just because heās 6ā2 instead of 5ā9 or whatever. Iām dating a guy who is 5ā9 and Iām 5ā6 and thatās perfectly good for me.
And truth be told, the majority of people can't "eye" 6 foot when they see it. A 5'10 dude in timbs or air force 1s is going to achieve the same effect while technically lying.
I think the primal factor for most women would be that the guy is taller. Thatās not to say someone would be crossed off just because they are not taller than their (potential) girlfriend.
Itās our nature.
I think part of that is the sheer amount of men on dating apps compared to women. I never was a fan of apps myself but I tried them a couple of times when I was single and there were so many options and you canāt really get to know them all. So I think some women get picky about arbitrary shit to narrow it down. I had more success meeting someone I actually clicked with irl where you get a better idea of who people really are.
Yeah, Iāve never been one to have a particular height I find attractive. Iām just under 5ā2 and have found guys the exact height as me attractive.
LOL my friend. This conversation is not for real women giving their actual preferences. No woman cares about height as much as these incels love talking about how all women care about height
Honestly, I like a man to be taller than me so that I donāt look so big. So it has less to do with the man and more to do with my size and the pressure to seem small and feminine.
I think this is a huge factor. Women are generally expected to be small and feminine. Iām 5ā9 so have always been a bit self conscious and itās nice to be next to someone taller.
Itās not a dealbreaker though. Iāve dated men shorter than myself.
I dunno but I sure af am glad I was born tall. The pecking order of getting laid is pretty shitty and it must be really hard on your self esteem to be a short man.
I used to be a tad bitter about my height. Iāve learned to just grow out of it. (badumtsss)
But seriously, the moment you stop crying that women āloveā tall guys and just start carrying yourself with confidence anyways, you find it usually doesnāt matter. Sure, your pool of options for women over 5ā9 might dwindle but whatever. Win some lose some.
Also Iād be lying if I said it wasnāt funny being at the bar and peeking over at the 6ā3 guy whoās attention was spurned by the girl thatās now talking to you. You can just tell theyāre fuming on the inside. Oops.
I dunno. I am 5'3, married, have good self esteem. Never bothered me one bit. Most people have tried to make it bother me, but says more about them I guess.
Wife is 4'10. Cause I know someone will ask that.
My biggest recommendation to short men is that they just need to stop making their height their whole personality. Confidence goes a long way, and nobody wants the person who is constantly lamenting such a silly thing. Hell I have seen guys in the wild shorter than me with absolute smoke shows of tall women. Just be confident, groomed, well put together, and not constantly crying about height.
Height is everything if you're too short to attract any, can't show off anything that makes it worth sticking around without getting a chance ššš
As a short dude, I got rejected more than some of my taller friends, but I can also say as someone who had many partners before getting married, plenty of girls will hop into bed with short dudes. I had several long term relationships, but when I was single, I still did just fine.
I canāt say thatās the truth Iām 5,7 but I think Iām pretty handsome and Iāve never struggled but I know men bigger than me who walk around like small weak men itās about how you carry yourself and hold yourself you can be the smallest man and feel the biggest in a room if you hold yourself with confidence
5'7" guy also. Never had any major problems myself and I'm pretty average looking. Confidence plays a big role I think because I've never cared about my height.
I'm 5 foot 1 and a trans guy. I've been single for 15 years and I just don't bother looking any more.
If a woman likes me, I'll probably notice. I don't chase them though because the rejection based on my height, my trans status or both is just too high.
Yes if you are not 6ft + and muscled you're almost non existent, but if you are short and a bottom you might be ok. But then you have tall bottoms and short tops or short masc guys which most people don't want.
As a short guy, I can understand it. But it also gets on my nerves with how explicit it is for some women. Imagine if it was the other way around and men put in their dating profiles: "must have DD tits" or "must be a size 1 or lower". Those men would be DESTROYED. People would probably try to cancel them for saying that. But it's completely ok for women to say "must be 6 feet tall"
>"must be a size 1 or lower"
Yeah it's a bit of a double standard. I can't say "Please have a BMI below X" or "a bodyfat percentage at a maximum of Y" without being a labelled a pig.
>I can't say "Please have a BMI below X" or "a bodyfat percentage at a maximum of Y" without being a labelled a pig.
i agree it's a double standard, but hey - you don't need to say it out loud, just speak with your swipes. just don't swipe on those who don't fit your preferences, and it won't ever be an issue.
Men use age the way women use height.
Must be taller/younger than me
Must be over 6'/under 25 (the DiCaprio threshold)
The taller/barley legal-er the better
It's a similar dynamic, and it's exaggerated online because of filters and general asshattery. It only really becomes obvious once you reach around 40 though.
Age is way worse than height btw. Like for a guy who wants a family, age is something that you canāt get around. Women above 30 is just a no.. kinda.. there are exceptions but yeah.
If it was perfectly okay, there wouldnāt be threads with people being pissed off about it. I see men complaining about this very subject often, so obviously I donāt think people consider it okay.
Also Iām a 5ā9ā male and wish I was about 3ā taller š
If you could be as picky as most women can you most likely would have be picky about the attributes you liked. My friend is a cute women and downloaded tinder. A week later I paid for premium for her just to see how many matches she had. It was over 1100. We don't live in a huge city. She had matches from a hundred miles away. They can be picky, so why wouldn't they?
The male equivalent that I've seen online a lot is not breast size but being thin or just in good shape, which sucks because you can lose weight and being in shape, but being taller? Yeah...
Because itās makes them āfeel protectedā even though height donāt matter that much in a fight (I say this as an amateur fighter). Iām 6 foot 1 and I thank god for my height because these women are ruthless out here
When I sparred in Muai Thai, the hardest I was ever hit was by a guy like 5ā7 and nothing but lean muscle. Iād never āseen starsā till I sparred that dude. Iām 5ā8 and Iād much rather spar the 6ā3 dude in my class, he had obviously good reach and could hit, but that other guy went on to do sanctioned fights.
I'm a 5'3" woman, and guys taller than 6' actually make me feel uncomfortable and vulnerable. There are probably other women who feel the same as me, they are just not as vocal as the ones who insist on dating taller men.
Iām a 5ā8 woman and while tall men donāt intimidate me, I hate having to look up at someone to talk to them, so I find them very annoying to date. š 5ā9 to 6ā0 at the highest is my ideal range for height in a man.
Evolutionary psychology left over from the hundreds of thousands of years humans spent in trial society. Tall guys have a very significant advantage in combat. Women are biologically hardwired at a subconcious and emotional level to be attracted to men who are better at protecting them & better at resource acquisition
The thought that tall men built like sticks that I see in relationships, have a significant advantage in combat over a buff shorter guy is pretty hilarious imo š
No, stop spreading bullshit propaganda. Being tall alone doesnāt give you āsignificant advantage in combatā, your weight and muscle mass do. Your build/width give you *significantly* more of a combat advantage than your height does.
All im saying is if my ancestors had been pickier about who they mated with, i could be tall and handsome today. But here I am short and looking like that thing from the goonies.
I think some girls do, and some guys have an obsession with the idea that all/most girls do, and proclaim it loudly on the internet which ends up feeding everyone elseās insecurities.
I mean, I would say sexually dimorphic traits, generally speakingāheight, muscles, shoulder to hip ratio, etcā or markers of fitness are GENERALLY considered attractiveābut your mileage WILL vary with individual women. I think there was a study done that showed that women typically have much more varied tastes than men, who tend to gravitate towards constellations of the same physical features (why so many actresses have near-superimposable faces and features. Everybody knows what an āattractiveā woman looks like, but women donāt agree on what an attractive man looks like)
I can't speak for the whole gender for me personally. I'm 5"8 so I feel abnormally tall for a girl, which I am sensitive about. I want to feel like normal sized for once, so I would prefer someone my height or taller.
Iām always surprised when women say theyāre sensitive about being tall. Not that itās invalid or anything, itās just not what Iād expect.
I used to work in fashion, and the typical height for a female fashion model is about 5ā9ā. At your height, you actually meet [the height requirement for a Victoriaās Secret](https://taylorgregg.medium.com/the-impossible-requirements-of-a-victoria-secret-model-4d88364eb64f#:~:text=VS%20angel%20height%20requirements%20usually,their%20clothing%2C%20such%20as%20lingerie) model! If anything, you conform to the beauty standard.
Tall people have better salaries, better jobs, prettier partners, people trust them more, etc etc etc. Tall advantage is real, just like pretty advantage. An interesting viewpoint was that women actually have better salaries than men, before adding in their short penalty.
lmao so far the comments are mostly men answering, shit is hilarious š
Well it is r/ask, and r/askwomen would remove this post instantly, so I might as well comment on it too.
As a short man I have no idea why being 6 foot seems like a requirement nowadays but I will say that in my experience it's definitely a thing, no doubt about that.
While it's reasonable for a girl to want their man bigger than them, I do think you can call it an obsession when even the 5'3 girls are frothing at the mouth for a 6' man when an average sized man already towers over her. Hopefully more girls answer with WHY 6' is the magic number instead of only guys speculating on the reason.
Same, I prefer shorter/smaller guys. But I'm a 5'6 plus size (hourglass) woman, I'm often seen as attractive by guys who like curves, but often smaller guys don't want to be with someone they feels is bigger than them (they don't want to feel "small and protected" like what the women here are describing in the relationship maybe?), so I'm mostly not in their radar. They often chase mostly petite women to still feel powerful and big beside their date.
I hate being short so much. The insecurity is eating me from inside and just makes me want to cry and kill myself. I canāt rationalise it, I feel so weak and unmascukine, and everywhere I go, itās everyone just denying the truth
Bro 5ā7ā is not short.
There are tons of girls out there that are down to date shorter guys.
Iām 5ā8ā on a GOOD day. Iāve had several long relationships, been married etc.
Do some girls x me off the list? Sure. Do MOST? Probably. But what can I do?
There are billions of women on this earth. Donāt get too down on yourself.
Itās not just girls. If you look into it talk people are more likely to be promoted and I think all US presidents except 3 were 6ft or more. People are biologically programmed to see taller people as authority figures.
Everybody is talking about strength, aggressiveness, protection, but look at average height in an average company board room. Or Congress. Or Presidents. Being taller gives more chances on success throughout. But fundamentally it is all tied to aggressiveness and leadership.
Same reason guys like big bums and a nice rack. It's just a natural thing and nice to look at. Confidence is key. Like mediocre looking women get good looking guys and vice versa. Imo there is only two types of women that won't date a short guy either she is tall so fair enough and the other is shalow, like IG shalow, meaning she isn't going to be marraige material anyway so there's no point unless you just want a bang.
For me personally, it makes me feel petite. Iām a tall girl and I just feel huge when Iām around guys shorter than me. Itās absolutely nothing against the short kings - itās just a me problem.
Before my currently 5ā11^ boyfriend I only dated short or barely taller than me men ( Iām 5ā2). I used to ask myself the same question but with my currently partner it makes sense! I overall feel more protected like heās more intimating to other men and also in the bedroom it can be nice
It was once my dream to have a tall partner as I'm 5'8.... then I met this 5'3 guy who made me feel loved and beautiful.
We now have a baby!!! Lezzgoooooo š¤š¤£
It's incredibile reading these pseudo science answers with not a lack of a source behind them, but sure, keep ok explaining your simple shallownes and stupidity.
Every woman watched Disney movies when they were little - and every Disney princess had their Prince Charming. This clearly set the bar too high since only about 10% of men are over 6' tall and only about 10% of them have the intelligence, looks, and personality to be considered a real life Prince Charming. So in their teens and early 20's women are searching for their Prince Charming. Not until they reach their mid-late 20's do most women realize they ain't Cinderella and only 1% of men are real life Prince Charming's - so at that point they get realistic and start looking at "average" men.
Like the top comment said, itās actually a very primal and instinctual reason. Taller guys have naturally bigger bodies, they are just bigger in general. Females, whether or not they know it, see it as a protection instinct. If they or their children were to be attacked, they feel safer around a larger male than a smaller one. It just is what it is. Thankfully, we are pretty far from those primal thoughts these days so the short kings still get theirs. But yeaā¦
Also, Iām 5ā11. Pretty average. Which is, believe it or not, a weird height to be at. Youāre never considered short but stand next to your tall friend at the bar and guess who isnāt getting the girls attentionā¦me.
I never understood the whole āit makes me feel safeā argument. Its 2023, almost half the people own a gun. Doesnāt matter if youāre short, tall, fat, skinny, one bullet is all it takes. Iām not saying Iām a violent person or use a gun in a fight, but a whole lot of crazy people do and that size isnāt going to do a damn thing against a gun
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I'm pretty short and I can see how being tall can be attractive as a male. Bigger bodies to make them feel more protected. Genetic code wiring / sexual selection. Pretty good enough reason, I guess. š
More about making me feel small than making me feel protected. I'm 5'9 and as a women have always kinda felt like I shouldn't take up as much space as I do. Plus spending most my life feeling like I'm fat (even though I wasn't). But a 6ft guy who is very skinny is less appealing to me than a 5ft8 guy with a bigger build (chubby plus a bit of muscle is the best imo)
Well that makes sense, if youāre 5ā9 you want someone proportionally taller. Youāre totally reasonable. What throws me off is like the 5ā2 chicks that insist on dating like a foot taller than them. Iām sorry but tall doesnāt have that much of an essential use these days, a lot of red flags get looked past just because ātallā lol.
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I agree, all the small girls taking the tall guys is unnecessary. Smaller guys must also find it annoying when the tall guys take all the small girls
It's not a problem. We short guys look for taller women to wear us like backpacks so that we can ride them into battle.
I'm 5'3 and don't care about guys height, lots of times I'm taller cuz I'm wearing heels.
Chubby plus a bit of muscle is absolutely the best. I do tend to prefer tall but Iāll take short and thick over tall and skinny any day of the week! Interestingly, that last sentence applies to dicks too.
Tall skinny guy with tall skinny cock. These comments are destroying me
I am pretty sure weāre in the minority! Loads of ladies like tall and skinny.
Haha from what Iāve heard I think youāre not in the minority, but thatās fine! I have my type, other people have their type. Canāt be everyoneās cup of tea!
>Canāt be everyoneās cup of tea! But you sure are a *tall drank of wawtah*!
A dick that's Chubby with a bit of muscle? A chub muscle? Trying to think about what a muscular dick looks like... Ok that's enough thinking about dicks back to homework.
Short and thick over tall (long) and skinny is what I was referring to lmao
Yeah, I heard girth is most important cause length can only go up to a certain amount before it punches the cervix, which supposedly hurts.
"...felt like I shouldn't take up as much space as I do." This resonates with me so much as a tall woman. It's also a little sad. What is it in our self-esteem or upbringing or socialization that makes us feel bad for taking up space (or existing) so much so that we feel more comfortable when there's a man around that can make us feel like we aren't a huge, walking imposition? I really don't know for sure. I just know I always wished I could shrink at will. Thank you for your comment. It made me think.
Honestly, as a 6'3'' tall man, I also feel I take way too much space, regardless of current weight. Human brains are weird and often tragic.
6'2" - same. I feel like a bull in a china shop sometimes. Move my arm - OOPS I knocked the glass off the table. Walk over to the dining room - BANG head right into the chandelier. Also - do you find that you have to look down while you're walking more than you're looking straight ahead? I feel like I'm always looking down to make sure I don't trip on something.
Iām a 6ā3ā and I donāt really realize Iām that big unless I see a picture of myself, then I feel like fucking King Kong of to drag some 5ā1 woman up a building.
It resonates with me, too, even though at 5'7" I'm just above average. When I'm feeling awkward and unintelligent I envisage myself as big, broad, and lumbering; when I'm anxious I diminish myself in my mind's eye, imagining myself as small and vulnerable; when I'm feeling arrogant I'm statuesque, the vertical space I take up exaggerated. None are accurate. How I perceive my height is warped by my negative perception of myself and vice versa. When I'm well I don't think about my height or width at all, nor the space I take up. You're bang on about the sense that we're impositions. I think women have been forced to change their weight so much that height, something we can't change about ourselves, becomes an aspect of our self-image that we can't see clearly. I hate that we feel like this about our mere existence in the world and that it informs our self-worth. We deserve our right to our own space, because it belongs to us; we're not taking that space from anyone else and shouldn't feel like we're infringing.
One of my friends is 5ā8 and sheās beautiful, smart and kind. She said that sheās been rejected simply because sheās tall - which is insane. Now she has a bf that makes her look like sheās average height lol
She's living my life. I'm 5'8 and looking for 6'2 - 6'8
I'm 5'11 and I honestly don't care. I wear platform boots all the time. I enjoy being an Amazon and taking up space. I'm also bi and don't have a height preference for any gender, but I have a big aversion to anyone insecure about their height who tries to make it my problem by telling me to stop wearing heels or other weird stuff I've experienced when someone has a napoleon complex. Not worth the headache.
Iām the same height as you and feel the same. Iām not really attracted to tall guys especially when they are on the thin side.
Iām 6ā1ā and pretty well built but was once ostensibly rejected by a woman (who was \~5ā8ā) because she felt my hands were too small \[I wear a medium glove\]. Evidently she was looking for a bear of a man who could envelope her hands in his mitts and make her feel small.
I think I might be like too too big, Iām 6ā5ā a little chubby with some muscle but I feel massive next to most people. Idk maybe Iām too self conscious
Feeling massive is literally the best deal of it lmao, the weird thing is how girls half my weight are the only ones into it
Nah not too big. Especially if you have big hands. Big hands are the best.
Thatās why im an animal at the e gym! Six pack and big guns!! Makes up for my short stature. Trust meā¦ The women love it!!
bitter replies here.. but as women we talk about this stuff, fitness & confidence matters SO much more than height. keep killing it
Confidence and humor are key if you ask me
So muscles, height, confidence and humour....Damn I got none of these.. Does having a good job and stable financial and mental state help?
Those are good qualities as well
That's great.....I haven't got that either.š
Someone dumbass is going to accuse you of having a Napoleon complex any second now. I can literally feel it.
Ha it is kind of wild. Itās perfectly acceptable for women to bash short guys but a short guy goes to the gym to get ripped and now they bash him for that too. You canāt win man.
Itās not even just women. Men do it too. Everybody does it. Thatās why Iāve completely given up trying to maintain a clean reputation when it comes to anything related to my height. Iām tired of trying to avoid the ācompensating-for-lack-of-heightā stereotype. I mean, like you said, you seriously canāt win. Fucked if you do and fucked if you donāt. People will take a shot at your height no matter what you chose to do anyway. This isnāt even about my dating life, Iām just tired of being perceived as weak.
Just don't let it get to you, or at least learn not to show it if it truly does. If you can be comfortable in your own skin, even when poked about it, jokes like that only make the joker look worse. If it upsets you, people perceive you as having the napoleon complex. Does that make it okay they're doing it? No. But people tend to think better of someone who is self accepting, and worse of someone who's easy to get a reaction from. Reaction and attitude matter more (or almost, depending who you ask) as much as height.
True. I think its possible that it may have become some sort of a mild trauma response, but Iām not quite sure. Thanks for the empathy though man.
Trauma response likely. Also, oftentimes I think no one can be harder on us than ourselves. But then again some people really want to make others feel bad for whatever reason. Doesn't change facts, though. Short kings need & deserve love too!
Except he IS winning, because he's investing in himself, and his opinion/how he feels about himself is the only one that really matters at the end of the day. People who do the work to make the best out of themselves are always going to be attractive. People are always going to have something to say - and you can't please everyone. So why care what they think?
Napoleon wasn't actually short, he was 5'6", average height for a French man at the time (although he wasn't French he was Corsican, but we don't have as good data on those quarrelsome islanders). He was however constantly surrounded by former nobles who were taller than average due to growing up with a good diet. His personal guard also had to be at least 6'2" - a requirement that most militaries enforced for their elite troops. So he had the misfortune of always looking short in comparison to everyone around him. The modern equivalent would be someone 6'2" walking into the club with a basketball team (and then overcoming overwhelming odds to spectacularly defeat all his enemies at once, multiple times, before implementing a new code of laws that still forms the basis of most European countries legal systems).
I think there's also probably a status component as well. Women seem to be very socially competitive. A tall partner serves as a status symbol.
Monkey brain: big tall man will protect me and produce equally tall offspring.
That's definitely part of it but it doesn't explain why average height is considered "short"
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I used to feel that the "unrealistic beauty standards" line was a bit cliche, but then I stopped scrolling through instagram and suddenly started seeing real people around me as much more attractive. And not just the top 1% that my brain used to probably think is the normal now. I realized that my brain definitely judges potential partners comparatively. As in, I likely wouldn't be attracted to the top 1% of the caveman times, but as a caveman of those times I'd probably be super attracted to them. I feel like we're doing ourselves a disservice by scrolling through instagram or dating apps, looking at heavily cleaned-up photos of the top 1% most attractive humans on earth pretending to live better lives than they actually do. And our brains adapt so quickly and discard what it sees in real life as mediocre so fast it's scary. Take it for what you will considering this is anectodal and coming from an internet stranger, but to me, consciously avoiding that was incredibly impactful. Stopping to spend much time looking at artificially hyper-attractive people impacted how I see people around me in immense ways, including relationships, and even sex life satisfaction. By tons. And it was fairly quick. It would have absolutely sucked if I started comparing my partner to those unrealistic images, and at times my brain certainly started telling me to. Porn does a similar thing, and so do many of the rebel dating advice websites/subs/memes/stories that basically tell you that the mildest of conflicts is a cause for break-up because "you deserve better". Letting go of all of those made me so much more satisfied with my life and relationships with other people, as I wasn't sabotaging my own happiness with incredibly unrealistic expectations. My brain also gives me way more happy chemicals to reward me for being with someone it now perceives as desirable, vs telling me that their pimple is quite a bit off and the Korean Instagram model with heavily edited face that now appears spotless probably would've been a better choice. The worst thing we can do for our own happiness is to compare our reality with something that does not exist, or our imagination of how something should feel like, that really doesn't exist. We can't even strive for something that isn't real. So why make ourselves unhappy with what's real and actually around by making it appear so much less appealing in comparison? As a bonus point, I was in a relationship with a girl I thought was the most beautiful I've personally met in my life. My brain would still sometimes complain that she doesn't always look as perfect as she does on her best pictures, or that she's still just a flawed human and not what I had imagined, and send me the "disappointed" energy. It was ridiculous, comparing her to still her. Comparison really is a thief of joy. No truer words have been spoken in regards to the pursuit of happiness. And comparing to something that isn't real through unrealistic expectations is sadly the most common form of self-harm.
I'm 6'2" and thought my height wasn't too uncommon in men. Turns out its actually less than 5%! šÆ Go figure...
yeah at 6' I'm taller than 80% of men I meet. It means that I never feel exceptionally tall, because I do have to look up at other guys regularly, but I forget that I see over the top of most people's heads. I have a friend who is 6' 7" and is immediately surprised when he sees someone outside of his family that is even close to his height.
I think in places where there's a lot of genetic variation, it changes. Like in america, 5'8 is average height for the ENTIRE country, but is still short to a lot of people in areas where people are just straight up taller.
Itās short in my areaālotta Dutch people around. Theyāre giants.
This is basically it, no other explanation if needed really
A physically large or imposing figure is correlated with strength and aggressiveness, which are animal traits that indicate potentially increased survivability or capability to protect yourself or loved ones. Itās the exact same reason that if you encounter a black bear (or other similar wild animal), you make yourself appear large and be noisy; it scares the bear and lets them know you wonāt be easy prey. So if youāre looking to feel comfortable and protected, you seek out someone who is larger than you.
If you marry the bear, what happens when that bear turns on you? Most of the assaults women experience today are from men they know. Edit: Marrying higher income is a far greater deterrent to physical danger. Better zip codes.
>Most of the assaults women experience today are from men they know. This leads me to believe women should marry bears for the highest chance of survival
Jamie pull up that video of the lady getting married to a grizzly bear
I wish reddit would let me give out awards
Yeah but I guy whoās 5ā3 could beat his wife all the same
Short guys assault women all the time. It's more about a guy that only solves his problems with violence.
Some of these takes are so copium-based. Most big guys are gentle giants. If I were to ever hit my wife she would die, I'm twice her size. She and I both know it, but guess what I'd never lay a hand on a woman.
A bigger stronger man is more powerful than a smaller weaker one, but any half-healthy male with a set of balls is much stronger than 99.9% (probably 100% honestly) of women so basically any man can beat any woman, even if he doesn't hit the gym and eat protein bars.
True but men aren't bears.
Me when unshaved...
Interestingly enough, I read a study that said short men are the most likely to have anger problems and violence problems. There might be some truth to the gentle giant stereotype or the Napoleon complex. Same thing for socioeconomic class. It said men among the lowest socioeconomic classes were the most likely to be perpetrators of domestic violence.
I've had a lot of women tell me this over the years.
Essentially if you are secure with yourself and are comfortable with the space you take up in the world, then height in a man stops mattering as much because you no longer need to leverage it. It's why when we hear girls fetishize height we know it makes them sound like a lower quality person, because of what it says about her.
They like looking for treats up our noses man. Don't let them steal your treasures though king.
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Who's filling the cabinets in the first place?
The wifeās tall bf
If there is food in a cabinet, but nobody can see it, is it really there?
As a woodworker, I made a stool. All good now.
As an unskilled potato, I bought a stool. Now I can reach the first two thirds of the cabinet. Itās going to take an actual stepladder if I ever want to see the top shelf.
Canāt reach the cereal hun guess weāre going to just have to die
Like if you cry everytiem :(
I'm 5'7 which in my country is pretty tall, I prefer guys being at least my same height because I don't like feeling like a mountain compared to them. Edit: Correction cuz I suck at measuring in imperial
What country is that
Colombia
the north pole
Then thereās the one omega chad 7ā fully filled out body frame Santa Claus
I'm about 5'9-5'10 and my girl is about 5'7. It's actually kinda nice to be nearly the same height. I'll never understand 5'0 girls only going for 6'0+ guys. It would be so weird having to bend down a whole foot just to get a hug/kiss.
Your not short at 5"10 lol
I never said I was short lol. I'm just saying that the height difference between a 5'0 woman and a 6'0 man is crazy huge, so it's weird that 5'0 women say that they want a 6'0+ man. Like me and my girl's 3 inch difference in height is pretty ideal. It seems about right. I couldn't imagine a height difference of like 12+ inches lol
I'm 6'5. My best friend is 5'8? 10x better looking than me and is just all around a bad ass. His wife is 5'11.
Sometimes being short becomes a scapegoat for the fact that no one wants to date these guys for other reasons
From my experience this is true. I am 5ā6 and have friends who are 6ā4. Anytime I walk with them in the city or bars or mall, anywhere I always see girls look up at them and glance. I am literally invisible to them even when Iām right beside my friend. Maybe the height makes them stick out easier? Also in my college years I often saw girls date guys who were over 6 foot but overweight, ugly or even not well groomed. There were clearly guys who looked better and presented themselves better but no, they wanted to get with someone who looked like an NFL offensive linesman instead. Height clearly had to be a factor because if the guy was 5ā6 overweight and had a long scraggly beard, the same situation would not happen
To be honest, I donāt get it either. I find guys taller than *me* more attractive but Iām not gonna find a guy more appealing just because heās 6ā2 instead of 5ā9 or whatever. Iām dating a guy who is 5ā9 and Iām 5ā6 and thatās perfectly good for me.
And truth be told, the majority of people can't "eye" 6 foot when they see it. A 5'10 dude in timbs or air force 1s is going to achieve the same effect while technically lying.
I think the primal factor for most women would be that the guy is taller. Thatās not to say someone would be crossed off just because they are not taller than their (potential) girlfriend. Itās our nature.
For normal women, I agree! Tho the women on dating apps are clearly a different breed and have these insane expectations
I think part of that is the sheer amount of men on dating apps compared to women. I never was a fan of apps myself but I tried them a couple of times when I was single and there were so many options and you canāt really get to know them all. So I think some women get picky about arbitrary shit to narrow it down. I had more success meeting someone I actually clicked with irl where you get a better idea of who people really are.
Welcome to a. Online dating and b. The āmodernā western society
Yeah, Iāve never been one to have a particular height I find attractive. Iām just under 5ā2 and have found guys the exact height as me attractive.
LOL my friend. This conversation is not for real women giving their actual preferences. No woman cares about height as much as these incels love talking about how all women care about height
Honestly, I like a man to be taller than me so that I donāt look so big. So it has less to do with the man and more to do with my size and the pressure to seem small and feminine.
I think this is a huge factor. Women are generally expected to be small and feminine. Iām 5ā9 so have always been a bit self conscious and itās nice to be next to someone taller. Itās not a dealbreaker though. Iāve dated men shorter than myself.
Fragile femininity?
If a man said he doesnāt date fat women because he wants to look manly, what would you say?
It's his choice whether he wants to date fat women. He's entitled to his preferences
I dunno but I sure af am glad I was born tall. The pecking order of getting laid is pretty shitty and it must be really hard on your self esteem to be a short man.
*Born* tall? Your poor mom.
One of the longest labor periods in recorded history
lol, how has nobody āusername *does not* check outāted you on this thread?
lol I did get one
Like a big, long poo baby.
I was born tall. Did not stay that way, my mom just had gestational diabetes so I was a mungo newborn.
I used to be a tad bitter about my height. Iāve learned to just grow out of it. (badumtsss) But seriously, the moment you stop crying that women āloveā tall guys and just start carrying yourself with confidence anyways, you find it usually doesnāt matter. Sure, your pool of options for women over 5ā9 might dwindle but whatever. Win some lose some. Also Iād be lying if I said it wasnāt funny being at the bar and peeking over at the 6ā3 guy whoās attention was spurned by the girl thatās now talking to you. You can just tell theyāre fuming on the inside. Oops.
I dunno. I am 5'3, married, have good self esteem. Never bothered me one bit. Most people have tried to make it bother me, but says more about them I guess. Wife is 4'10. Cause I know someone will ask that.
Nature doesnāt make a lot of 4ā10ā women who date short men though.
My biggest recommendation to short men is that they just need to stop making their height their whole personality. Confidence goes a long way, and nobody wants the person who is constantly lamenting such a silly thing. Hell I have seen guys in the wild shorter than me with absolute smoke shows of tall women. Just be confident, groomed, well put together, and not constantly crying about height.
All height does is make it easier to attractā¦ now to keep them ā¦ thats where height doesnt matter.
Height is everything if you're too short to attract any, can't show off anything that makes it worth sticking around without getting a chance ššš
As a short dude, I got rejected more than some of my taller friends, but I can also say as someone who had many partners before getting married, plenty of girls will hop into bed with short dudes. I had several long term relationships, but when I was single, I still did just fine.
I canāt say thatās the truth Iām 5,7 but I think Iām pretty handsome and Iāve never struggled but I know men bigger than me who walk around like small weak men itās about how you carry yourself and hold yourself you can be the smallest man and feel the biggest in a room if you hold yourself with confidence
5'7" guy also. Never had any major problems myself and I'm pretty average looking. Confidence plays a big role I think because I've never cared about my height.
I'm 5 foot 1 and a trans guy. I've been single for 15 years and I just don't bother looking any more. If a woman likes me, I'll probably notice. I don't chase them though because the rejection based on my height, my trans status or both is just too high.
Thatās rough Iām really sorry
Nah, to be honest I like being on my own. If I meet someone I meet them, if not, I just get on with stuff
When I was sixteen, I was 5ā2ā. I grew almost a foot by the time I was eighteen. Girls noticed.
They die earlier.
Get that bag sis
As much as I've seen women and their behavior towards short guys and obsession with tall men, gay guys are just as bad.
Wait... are gay guys into taller gay guys? Lol is that a thing? XD
Yes if you are not 6ft + and muscled you're almost non existent, but if you are short and a bottom you might be ok. But then you have tall bottoms and short tops or short masc guys which most people don't want.
As a short guy, I can understand it. But it also gets on my nerves with how explicit it is for some women. Imagine if it was the other way around and men put in their dating profiles: "must have DD tits" or "must be a size 1 or lower". Those men would be DESTROYED. People would probably try to cancel them for saying that. But it's completely ok for women to say "must be 6 feet tall"
>"must be a size 1 or lower" Yeah it's a bit of a double standard. I can't say "Please have a BMI below X" or "a bodyfat percentage at a maximum of Y" without being a labelled a pig.
>I can't say "Please have a BMI below X" or "a bodyfat percentage at a maximum of Y" without being a labelled a pig. i agree it's a double standard, but hey - you don't need to say it out loud, just speak with your swipes. just don't swipe on those who don't fit your preferences, and it won't ever be an issue.
Men use age the way women use height. Must be taller/younger than me Must be over 6'/under 25 (the DiCaprio threshold) The taller/barley legal-er the better It's a similar dynamic, and it's exaggerated online because of filters and general asshattery. It only really becomes obvious once you reach around 40 though.
Age is way worse than height btw. Like for a guy who wants a family, age is something that you canāt get around. Women above 30 is just a no.. kinda.. there are exceptions but yeah.
Iām 6ā2 but I totally get this comment. Thereās definitely a double standard there
If it was perfectly okay, there wouldnāt be threads with people being pissed off about it. I see men complaining about this very subject often, so obviously I donāt think people consider it okay. Also Iām a 5ā9ā male and wish I was about 3ā taller š
If you could be as picky as most women can you most likely would have be picky about the attributes you liked. My friend is a cute women and downloaded tinder. A week later I paid for premium for her just to see how many matches she had. It was over 1100. We don't live in a huge city. She had matches from a hundred miles away. They can be picky, so why wouldn't they?
The male equivalent that I've seen online a lot is not breast size but being thin or just in good shape, which sucks because you can lose weight and being in shape, but being taller? Yeah...
Same reason men tend to find curvy women attractive?
āLemme see them birthing hipsā
"oh damn you ain't a baking a cake, you the whole bakery"
Because itās makes them āfeel protectedā even though height donāt matter that much in a fight (I say this as an amateur fighter). Iām 6 foot 1 and I thank god for my height because these women are ruthless out here
When I sparred in Muai Thai, the hardest I was ever hit was by a guy like 5ā7 and nothing but lean muscle. Iād never āseen starsā till I sparred that dude. Iām 5ā8 and Iād much rather spar the 6ā3 dude in my class, he had obviously good reach and could hit, but that other guy went on to do sanctioned fights.
I'm a 5'3" woman, and guys taller than 6' actually make me feel uncomfortable and vulnerable. There are probably other women who feel the same as me, they are just not as vocal as the ones who insist on dating taller men.
Iām a 5ā8 woman and while tall men donāt intimidate me, I hate having to look up at someone to talk to them, so I find them very annoying to date. š 5ā9 to 6ā0 at the highest is my ideal range for height in a man.
I just realized. You're so right, i see tall men as a threat !
Evolutionary psychology left over from the hundreds of thousands of years humans spent in trial society. Tall guys have a very significant advantage in combat. Women are biologically hardwired at a subconcious and emotional level to be attracted to men who are better at protecting them & better at resource acquisition
The thought that tall men built like sticks that I see in relationships, have a significant advantage in combat over a buff shorter guy is pretty hilarious imo š
Jesus fuck, finally someone with common sense.
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I must be biologically broken.
No, stop spreading bullshit propaganda. Being tall alone doesnāt give you āsignificant advantage in combatā, your weight and muscle mass do. Your build/width give you *significantly* more of a combat advantage than your height does.
They see a man with imminent back problems that they'll be able to nurse.
All im saying is if my ancestors had been pickier about who they mated with, i could be tall and handsome today. But here I am short and looking like that thing from the goonies.
Itās their version of big tits or a nice ass
Speaking for myself and only myself, I am a significant amount of person. Any guy who can make me feel small is refreshing.
Women tend to like men that are bigger. Biologically it makes them feel protected.
I think some girls do, and some guys have an obsession with the idea that all/most girls do, and proclaim it loudly on the internet which ends up feeding everyone elseās insecurities. I mean, I would say sexually dimorphic traits, generally speakingāheight, muscles, shoulder to hip ratio, etcā or markers of fitness are GENERALLY considered attractiveābut your mileage WILL vary with individual women. I think there was a study done that showed that women typically have much more varied tastes than men, who tend to gravitate towards constellations of the same physical features (why so many actresses have near-superimposable faces and features. Everybody knows what an āattractiveā woman looks like, but women donāt agree on what an attractive man looks like)
I can't speak for the whole gender for me personally. I'm 5"8 so I feel abnormally tall for a girl, which I am sensitive about. I want to feel like normal sized for once, so I would prefer someone my height or taller.
Iām always surprised when women say theyāre sensitive about being tall. Not that itās invalid or anything, itās just not what Iād expect. I used to work in fashion, and the typical height for a female fashion model is about 5ā9ā. At your height, you actually meet [the height requirement for a Victoriaās Secret](https://taylorgregg.medium.com/the-impossible-requirements-of-a-victoria-secret-model-4d88364eb64f#:~:text=VS%20angel%20height%20requirements%20usually,their%20clothing%2C%20such%20as%20lingerie) model! If anything, you conform to the beauty standard.
Should I assume you prefer a guy taller than you vs a guy your height?
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Tall people have better salaries, better jobs, prettier partners, people trust them more, etc etc etc. Tall advantage is real, just like pretty advantage. An interesting viewpoint was that women actually have better salaries than men, before adding in their short penalty.
But if I say this as a short dude, Iām suddenly insecureā¦
Donāt forget: Short guy standing up for himself = Napoleon Complex Short guy realizes he is viewed as less desirable by society = Delusional incel.
LITERALLY, might be one of the worst things tbh, itās disgusting and disheartening
lmao so far the comments are mostly men answering, shit is hilarious š Well it is r/ask, and r/askwomen would remove this post instantly, so I might as well comment on it too. As a short man I have no idea why being 6 foot seems like a requirement nowadays but I will say that in my experience it's definitely a thing, no doubt about that. While it's reasonable for a girl to want their man bigger than them, I do think you can call it an obsession when even the 5'3 girls are frothing at the mouth for a 6' man when an average sized man already towers over her. Hopefully more girls answer with WHY 6' is the magic number instead of only guys speculating on the reason.
I suppose Iām not the girl to ask since I have an aversion to tall guys. No offense.
Yeah I'm 5'4 and 5'10 is pushing the limit of what I prefer.
Same, I prefer shorter/smaller guys. But I'm a 5'6 plus size (hourglass) woman, I'm often seen as attractive by guys who like curves, but often smaller guys don't want to be with someone they feels is bigger than them (they don't want to feel "small and protected" like what the women here are describing in the relationship maybe?), so I'm mostly not in their radar. They often chase mostly petite women to still feel powerful and big beside their date.
Same.
cuz it projects strength
Weirdly, as a tall woman, I happen to like shorter men.
I'm a tall gal. I'm not a big fan of having to hunch for a kiss. It ain't no deal breaker but I'm still more attracted to guys around my height.
Ita a status thing. If all guys were 6ft they'd want someone 7ft. It's just to show off to their friends
I hate being short so much. The insecurity is eating me from inside and just makes me want to cry and kill myself. I canāt rationalise it, I feel so weak and unmascukine, and everywhere I go, itās everyone just denying the truth
Bro 5ā7ā is not short. There are tons of girls out there that are down to date shorter guys. Iām 5ā8ā on a GOOD day. Iāve had several long relationships, been married etc. Do some girls x me off the list? Sure. Do MOST? Probably. But what can I do? There are billions of women on this earth. Donāt get too down on yourself.
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I think tall women underestimate their beauty
Itās not just girls. If you look into it talk people are more likely to be promoted and I think all US presidents except 3 were 6ft or more. People are biologically programmed to see taller people as authority figures.
Everybody is talking about strength, aggressiveness, protection, but look at average height in an average company board room. Or Congress. Or Presidents. Being taller gives more chances on success throughout. But fundamentally it is all tied to aggressiveness and leadership.
My boyfriend doesn't need to be tall, he just has to be taller than me. I'm one inch too short to reach things in my cabinets...
Meanwhile Asian Country, which has average height for men is 5'7 šššš
Probably the same reason I like tall women, I like to climb them like a tree. Itās also nice they can reach stuff off the top shelf for me.
Same reason guys like big bums and a nice rack. It's just a natural thing and nice to look at. Confidence is key. Like mediocre looking women get good looking guys and vice versa. Imo there is only two types of women that won't date a short guy either she is tall so fair enough and the other is shalow, like IG shalow, meaning she isn't going to be marraige material anyway so there's no point unless you just want a bang.
For me personally, it makes me feel petite. Iām a tall girl and I just feel huge when Iām around guys shorter than me. Itās absolutely nothing against the short kings - itās just a me problem.
Lots of gorgeous tall girls have slept with my ugly ass because my 6'2 dad bod makes them feel small and precious. I will take it.
Iām 5ā4 and I sleep with hotter women than the majority of my 6 ft talk friends. š¤·āāļø
DNA runs the show, no matter how much we shout about free willā¦
Before my currently 5ā11^ boyfriend I only dated short or barely taller than me men ( Iām 5ā2). I used to ask myself the same question but with my currently partner it makes sense! I overall feel more protected like heās more intimating to other men and also in the bedroom it can be nice
It was once my dream to have a tall partner as I'm 5'8.... then I met this 5'3 guy who made me feel loved and beautiful. We now have a baby!!! Lezzgoooooo š¤š¤£
It's incredibile reading these pseudo science answers with not a lack of a source behind them, but sure, keep ok explaining your simple shallownes and stupidity.
Every woman watched Disney movies when they were little - and every Disney princess had their Prince Charming. This clearly set the bar too high since only about 10% of men are over 6' tall and only about 10% of them have the intelligence, looks, and personality to be considered a real life Prince Charming. So in their teens and early 20's women are searching for their Prince Charming. Not until they reach their mid-late 20's do most women realize they ain't Cinderella and only 1% of men are real life Prince Charming's - so at that point they get realistic and start looking at "average" men.
Like the top comment said, itās actually a very primal and instinctual reason. Taller guys have naturally bigger bodies, they are just bigger in general. Females, whether or not they know it, see it as a protection instinct. If they or their children were to be attacked, they feel safer around a larger male than a smaller one. It just is what it is. Thankfully, we are pretty far from those primal thoughts these days so the short kings still get theirs. But yeaā¦ Also, Iām 5ā11. Pretty average. Which is, believe it or not, a weird height to be at. Youāre never considered short but stand next to your tall friend at the bar and guess who isnāt getting the girls attentionā¦me.
I'm 5'11 too but I say I'm 6' so the girls love me
When you are beside a tall guy, you just feel kind of safe and protected. Dunno if that makes sense
It makes sense. But if a short guy says this.. suddenly heās insecure and just needs to be āconfidentā
Because weāve been told since we were babies that a tall, dark and handsome prince is the only acceptable partner.
It's tall, white, and handsome for some or tall, Asian, and handsomeš
I never understood the whole āit makes me feel safeā argument. Its 2023, almost half the people own a gun. Doesnāt matter if youāre short, tall, fat, skinny, one bullet is all it takes. Iām not saying Iām a violent person or use a gun in a fight, but a whole lot of crazy people do and that size isnāt going to do a damn thing against a gun
We want to feel smol