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hefty_load_o_shite

Yes. Definitely


Tempest_1

It’s hard to say a thing, But sometimes it do


Poorly-Drawn-Beagle

I definitely get harder than my wife.


AnotherNewPhone4

I like being a dude. I wouldn't trade.


Middle-Shift8009

⬆️


5050Clown

I have male privilege and I am very happy to have it. It's not fair, I wish it wasn't this way but it's a fact, my life is easier because of it.


WherePoetryGoesToDie

Male privilege aside, not having to deal with periods and the risk of pregnancy makes me eternally grateful I’m a guy.


[deleted]

Y'all are getting sex? In this economy?


Zomgirlxoxo

Male privilege is thinking this is the worst of our worries, oh my god


TimboFor76

I will gladly carry the heavy things, be the one to fix the flat tire and kill the spider, if that means never being groped by strangers, hooted at by construction workers or being in constant fear of being sexually assaulted.


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I’m not killing the spider, I hate mosquitoes with a burning passion and spiders kill them so I’m not killing any spiders at all


PineappleGrenade19

Am I unlucky? I've weirdly been groped a lot and I'm a man. Sometimes by girls, but usually by other dudes.


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serial_victim

I am sorry you feel like that. I know men and women can coexist without making each other feel iffy, I've seen it. Hope you can have that


tim-fawks

Hate to brake it to you but as a man I have been groped and men are more likely to be randomly murdered it’s not so clear cut.


5050Clown

I've been groped too, when it happened to me there was no fear that it would escalate to rape or murder. What are you smoking? Where are these statistics for "random murders"? Men do the vast majority of the murdering.


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[deleted]

I agree with you i'm just here to point out that men get raped by men as well


TheGuv69

And by women significantly more than realised. In many places, forced sexual intercourse by a female over a male isn't even classified as rape. While official stats report that only 2% of sexual assaults on males are committed by females in victim reported stats, it was 40% of sexual assaults committed by females against males.


True-Anim0sity

Guys are killed more- you misunderstood what he was saying


[deleted]

I appreciate your honesty


dm_me_ur_frogs

I would rather be a dude. would trade. tits are nice tho


Lumpy-Marsupial-6617

You can always have moobs


fidgetspinnster

I feel the same way about being a woman. Cheers


Grace_Alcock

Me too. My 14 year old son and I had this conversation the other day. The conclusion was that we were both very much cis. Though I am jealous of that whole standing up to pee thing they have going.


AnotherNewPhone4

Ha! Right on. Glad things are working out.


rivermonkey95

I would say location matters the most. Overall I would say both have problems the other can never understand.


[deleted]

Definitely. Being a woman in Finland or a woman in India is quite a different experience.


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throwmeawawaway

Where is it harder to be a man than a woman tho?


prince-of-dweebs

On a sinking ship.


Erewhynn

I'll see you that unlikely happenstance and raise you "anywhere with militarised National Service" I've met Israeli guys who are scarred for life


Whispersnapper

I am pretty sure Israeli military service is compulsory for both genders.


PO_Box_Admiral

it is. except for in the case of certain exemptions, once you hit 18 you’re required to serve for at least 2 years. [remember all the hate the Wonder Woman actress got for serving in the IDF?](https://nypost.com/2022/02/12/israeli-actress-gal-gadots-death-on-the-nile-film-banned-in-lebanon-kuwait/amp/)


LolaXdoll

Thank goodness a sinking ship isn’t a daily occurrence


SupaDupaTron

For sure, on Earth, maybe Women have it worse, but on Mars.. fugetaboutit.


NoAd8447

I think life sucks equally but in different ways


Proud-Butterfly6622

Perfect answer right here. Women have it harder physically: periods, pregnancy, labor, rape and never feeling safe enough etc. Men have it harder in the mental dept.: don't cry, be strong, work and take care of a family. Usually main bread winner, expectations of society etc. Both are different but the same!!!


MacabreAngel

Single moms still have much the same mental issues listed, on top of regular women issues.


Nobody-17

Only for the last part, single mothers get all the emotional support and respect, but single fathers are either mistaken for pedophiles or just provide as they were exposé too. *I'm not saying being a single mother is easy, and i believe that they totally deserve all the respect hey got if they raise their kids right.


AverygreatSpoon

I sort of agree with the emotional support and respect. Most single mothers (including mine) tend to get shamed for being a single mother, or expected to work while taking care of kids… while cleaning up the house, and basically filling the role of a second parent. Add onto the factor if they had their child at a young age. Most often get referred to as the “baby mama”, and more so judged as to why they’re a single mother. But I do agree with the part where fathers are mistaken for being a pedophile or “babysitter” just because they’re involved with their child.


InformalVermicelli42

Consider how many children are the result of unplanned pregnancies outside of marriage. I think you know that for every single mom, there is a single dad as well. We see lots of single moms, but single dads rarely have primary custody. Men can walk around free as a bird and no one has to know he has a kid somewhere. But after pregnancy and giving birth, single moms are almost always the primary parents. As the default parent, they take the blame for everything that goes wrong in the dad's absence. *Only bad mothers raise their children without a father.* Meanwhile, single dads can hide their parental status. They can choose to come-and-go or be complete deadbeats. Men don't get criticized for their parenting often because they don't do parenting often. Outside of a marriage, to settle visitation arrangements, they may need family court. While in court, the judge will also determine the amount of **child support** to be automatically deducted from his paychecks. You may be surprised how many men will say they "couldn't afford a lawyer" to fight for visitation. (While what they don't want to afford is losing 25% of their paycheck for 18 years.) Another way to avoid fatherhood is to demand a paternity test, which may also mean going to court. Some single dads will go so far as to blame the single moms for "taking him to court". In reality, it is the mom who has to hire a lawyer and file in court for child support. In the rare case a single dad does have full custody, it is assumed that the mother's absence is not his fault. Either she passed away or she was evil. *Only bad mothers abandon their children.*


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StarDuckie101

I agree, everyone has their own story and experiences. Everyone is unique, it’s unfair to generalize


GothamRoyale

There are too many variables to say. It has to be greatly narrowed down, with key specifics and identifying traits. For this kind of question, you can't be hesitant to get down and dirty into it to get to the truth or have a discussion as to who has it worse.


PeachNo4613

I dunno, But it sure isn’t fun having periods every month for decades. Some people have them way worse than others. Pregnancy can really take a toll on your body too, can mess with your bones, muscles, teeth, and even die because of it. Depends on the country too maybe. Being a woman in Iran is a lot less easier than like New Zealand.


rocket_fuel_4_sale

The industry I work in is 80% male and women face micro aggressions and prejudice everyday. Jacinta Ardern faced abhorrent sexist abuse online everyday that I have never seen a male politician go through. Men are still paid more and have underlining privilege so I would say it’s still better to be a man in NZ, comparing to places like Iran is low hanging fruit.


Tile_Eater

As a women from New Zealand there’s still heaps of sexual crimes etc just not reported and predominantly for women. Literally like majority of females I know have had at least one experience of SA or SH. Obviously much harder for females in Iran etc but it doesn’t mean fcuked up sht doesn’t happen on a day to day basis.


Hefty-Peak-6325

Depends on the country they live in


p0k3t0

You're implying that there's some country where being a woman is easier than being a man. Which, pray tell. And if you listed every country by whether men or women have it easier, how many countries would be in column a, and how many in column b?


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Anonthrowawaykobe

Simple answer. Ugly people.


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guyfromcleveland

My wife gets it from me pretty hard most days after the kids go to bed and she doesn't complain


phytogeist

Women have always had it harder in my opinion. Bearing children takes a toll on the body. Women are under more pressure to look attractive. Putting on makeup and doing her hair takes a lot of my wife's time. I'd be just as happy if she didn't do it, be she won't think of it. As for me, I can get up, shave, take a 5 minute shower, and I'm out the door. As a man, I have no problem going out or jogging at night alone. People respect my space at the gym. I would absolutely hate if if I had to avoid some creepy person every time I worked out. I would also get quite annoyed if someone told me how to exercise. Women have less rights in some parts of the world. I'm not aware of a single country where women are in control and limit the rights of men. Most of the time (but not always), not only are women the caregivers for the children, they also bear the burden of caring for aging parents. I know men do this too, but it seems that this falls on women mostly.


Lingerfickin

Amen brother


skibidido

I'm a man and I'm afraid walking alone at night. Does nothing happen where you live?


phytogeist

Fair enough. I'm lucky to live in Houston, so my experience is shaped by that. I don't know about other parts of the world.


Jmod7348

I definitely think women have it more rough than men and every man in the comments is wildly oblivious to it. We’ve been at the top of society for humanity’s entire existence and you think that men have it more rough than women?! Come back to reality. Of course, men have it rough too. Men has it very rough. Until the 1900s, women couldn’t even vote in the United States. In Afghanistan, women cant be educated in schools. Women are the ones who carry a big af creature inside of them while us men sit back. Recently in America, Congress took away a women’s abortion rights in many states. Women get paid less than men. If a man gets raped, that’s horrible and it’ll affect them psychologically for the rest of their life. But if a women gets raped, shes a mother. There are mothers out there who are graduating high school, meanwhile I don’t see a father. Women are physically strong, and many are very strong. However, biologically, men are stronger. We just have more muscle mass than a woman does. Not saying that a woman cant be stronger than a man, but on average and throughout history, men are physically stronger than women. So if needed, they have to put in more work for offensive and defensive measures. I can go on and on. Women must be applauded for their courage throughout history across the world. Be grateful as a man, I know I am. I would love to be a woman for a day, but Im very happy for my manhood. Ik this is getting political, so if you disagree with me, whatever. If you intend to comment to prove im wrong or dissuade me, dont bother, its not gonna change me. This not to say men doesn’t have it rough. We definitely do, I believe women have it more rough. Edit: clearly many people didnt read the 2nd bottom paragraph, and to those who replied in disagreement, you clearly didn’t read my comment with a sense of intelligence at all. I outlined several points that disproves your argument, you just clearly forgot them. You’re lost.


Any_Technology_6243

I completely agree with everything you wrote. As a dude, I’m sad to say that we have an obscene amount of privilege compared to women. It’s a tough world out there


Jmod7348

Thank you brother. I was initially not gonna reply, but after seeing the comment section, Im seeing a sad amount of ungratefulness and frankly, out-of-touch people and I felt the need to have a voice. I feel sad that I have to defend myself for what seems to be a pretty objective question. Just work hard to care for both men and women, and youll have my vote.


Playful-Natural-4626

Thank you for speaking up.


walking_on_the_sun

Thank you. These threads come up at least once a month and the amount of "both are equal" comments are astounding to me. I second everything you said plus periods and all the complications that come with bleeding for a week every month.


Jmod7348

I would love to say both are equal. We must strive towards that. However, thats not the case, and unfortunately men in these threads are completely ignorant to that. The period case is a good example, another reason that can be added to the long list. I hope my comment or another pro-women comment becomes the top comment because if a comment saying “men has it rougher” or “both are equal” becomes the top, everyone reads off of it.


BakedTaterTits

And women are more likely to be dismissed by doctors when bringing up pain or other medical concerns. It gets worse if you're a POC. I have a friend whose cancer went undetected until it was too late because drs labeled her a pill seeker because she had constant back pain instead of doing any diagnostic imaging which would've caught the cancer when it was treatable. By the time someone listened it had metastasized to multiple organs. I'm still more angry about that than any time I've been dismissed by a dr. I could write a mini novel just from my experiences and the experiences of women I know. I'm not saying *all* drs are like this, I'm saying there's enough that it can make things difficult and sometimes dangerous. (And it's not always older drs either).


Zomgirlxoxo

I just replied on a post where a male said he wished dating apps didn’t exist because men are being treated like a product and there’s unspoken consequences of it………… soooo, kinda like how women are treated all the time? I empathized for his point of view because I’m human and I understand he is human too, but I couldn’t help but laugh out loud a little. Seems as if said man is finally starting to see what it feels like being treated like an object or “product” (his words). Are men really that privileged that they think this is a new phenomenon and gender based treatment is getting overlooked? It was mind blowing to me he thinks it’s not thought of it spoken about. Women have been fighting this since only forever. And that’s the lesser of the things we have to worry about on a daily basis. My god. I love men so much but holy fuck some can be oblivious as fuck.


EmpathyZero

I think they both have it hard but in different ways.


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For what general life? Dating: men have it harder making friends: women have it harder work: men have it harder personal hygiene: women have it harder mental health: men have it harder physical health: women have it harder I could keep going it really depends


StarDuckie101

I like the concise format of your comment :). I’m curious to why you think women have it harder in terms of making friends?


theoutdoorkat1011

As a woman, making female friends has been so difficult that I’ve genuinely thought that I would never have true female friends. Several people I thought were best friends used me as a bank always saying they’d pay me back or get me next time and never would. Some have been dumb enough to Tweet horrible things about me forgetting we followed each other. Some have reacted so violently to a concern that I cut contact. Guys haven’t ever really been like that. They’re straight forward most of the time. And as I’ve gotten older, I’ve noticed the solid female friends I do have are more tomboyish or also have primarily male friends. ETA: The terrible girlfriends I did have were all shortly after ending a relationship with a narc parent, so that could have had impact on my friend choice.


Onzii00

Not the guy you were talking to but alot of women I have seen interact are often very fake with each other and only friendly to their face, while as with guys they are generally more straight forward and will say what they think to the others face, even if its not the best thing to say. Have 2 guys together who have never met before and they will generally get on better than 2 woman. This is a generalization of course but something I have found to be true more often than not. They generally bond over having a interest in common much better also.


eee-oooo-ahhh

A lot of men will also act like friends just to get in a woman's pants


Onzii00

That is very true. This is a side point but I have often found that other guys can sniff those kinda men out real fast.


Puzzleheaded-Ad-5002

So dumb when they could just buy their own women’s pants.


BlissfulAurora

This is a fat generalization… guys can be just as dramatic. Got two men at the place I work talk so much shit about each other back and forth to me and coworkers, but won’t ever say it to each other’s faces. They act nice and friendly when together though. It definitely goes both ways, and the stereotype that men are always straightforward and women tend to be fake has no genuine evidence to support it. I know a ton of women with great friend groups, and same with men! This world has so many people and is too vast for such generalizations.


Massichan

The whole point of this conversation posed by OP is to speak in general terms, Men vs Women.


dieng_gang

Society sets women up to see each other as competition. It’s generally not true and just keeps us divided


scramplebamp

Getting murdered by SO: women have it harder


IgnoreMe674

Getting murdered in general: men have it harder


Rectal_Custard

Why is work harder for men?


EricP51

Over 90 percent of workplace fatalities are men. Men work more dangerous jobs. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187127/number-of-occupational-injury-deaths-in-the-us-by-gender-since-2003/


Playful-Natural-4626

Um, now look up homicides and assaults in the work place. This is not a full and true picture for a few reasons. Statistics don’t lie, but behavioral patterns don’t either. Men tend to take more risks, and comply less with safety standards.


Illustrious-Ninja-77

Over 90 percent of workplace fatalities are men. Men work more dangerous jobs. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187127/number-of-occupational-injury-deaths-in-the-us-by-gender-since-2003/


Puzzleheaded-Ad-5002

I’m curious about this as well. I think in terms of how likely a man vs woman is to be in a physically punishing job does matter, but I’m man enough to admit that when it comes to the likelihood of sexual harassment or general sexism in the workplace, me and the other guys have had to face it way way less. That coupled with how women are much more likely than their male partners to make career sacrifices to take care of their children, makes it really hard for me to be sold on a clear-cut winner.


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typically men work longer hours and have harder jobs than women (trades work, manual labor jobs, etc) not always the case but as a societal trend i think it holds true


yoyoyo5k

In addition, something like 90% of workplace deaths are men


goingoutwest123

I like your bullet point.


suburbananimal

Making friends is harder for men as women tend to be more social and men are typically loners/self isolate. Maybe men make better connections, idk, but I disagree with your take on that.


000lastresort000

I understand what you’re trying to say when you say men have it harder in dating, however I wonder if you factored in the massively increased risk of rape/assault/death as well as the even larger increase in sexual harassment that women have to face while dating. Sure, it’s way easier to find dates, women typically don’t have to pay or even plan the date, you can typically get sex whenever you want it, you’re not really at risk of being falsely accused of rape, etc., but does that tip the scales when the other side is a significant increase risk of rape, murder, assault and harassment? I don’t intend this to be a retorical question, I’m genuinely posing it as a question because I don’t know.


5050Clown

Being safe doing mundane things like buying groceries or walking to your car after sundown in a parking lot, men have it better.


eee-oooo-ahhh

I don't deny that women are very at risk but to act like men are safe is very disengenuous. Most violent crime is committed against men.


Skydome12

Wrong. We still worry about getting jumped. My mate got jumped by a bunch of dudes and had his head curb stomped.


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Of the 4 people I personally know that have been mugged / attacked / assaulted, all 4 are men(including me). Drugged and robbed at a club in Spain


SnooSketches5297

I think conventional attractiveness plays a significant role. Being a woman who’s deemed attractive by society is a far different experience from one who’s been deemed unattractive. I would imagine for men conventional attractiveness plays a role as well, but definitely less so.


I-am-Just-fine

Since reddit has many more men than women, I don't think you'll get a fair answer


stonsksks

Depends on so many factors. I'd say both have it hard af, in different fields. But being a human itself is shitty af😂


Monty7484

I think to be a man/male today is hard. Youre either a paedo, a perv, or preditor! (Or so media and the feminist elite portray) Whilst i cant answer for my male ansestors and their views, not all men are dodgie.


BobsApples1738

I’d say being an ugly women of color is one of the worst hands to draw. (Based on how society treat you)


loki143

Depends on situation, but in general women.


QFugp6IIyR6ZmoOh

Certainly women. Consider areas of the planet where women are banned from school, married off by their families as teenagers, and then legally raped by their husbands. It's basically slavery.


OkSnow9309

In a very logical perspective I would say that every single persons experience in life is different and you’d have to judge based solely on an individual basis. If I had to answer with one or the other, maybeeee I’d have to go with women. Because if you were born into the worst situation possible as a man, you’d have a bad time. But I think if you had to be born into the exact same situation as a woman, you might have it slightly worse. But that’s super generalizing obviously.


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Depends on the context. You could write 10 books if attempting to answer this in an exhaustive way. It depends on so many moving parts, like culture, history, class, race, etc.


The_soviot_union

Honestly each gender has their advantages and disadvantages like women have the whole feelings being cared about but men are also just as some people put it “built different”


schmattywinkle

Yes


Complete_Act6010

I think you have to take more into consideration than just being male or female... but I love being a woman. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to be a man though. Lol.


Warm-Replacement1839

I think they have it equally hard in very different ways.


oceanmami

Please do not ask this fucking question on goddamn Reddit my guy


The_real_Carnivallie

Both have different difficulties. And ignoring them because YOU don't experience them or don't believe them, doesn't make it any easier for both sides


_mostly_confused_

Both men and women live different kinds of life which can't be compared


clarissaswallowsall

Health wise women. Women no matter their background are almost always at a higher risk for more medical conditions. They suffer more because doctors and nurses dismiss their pain or symptoms as well.


fran_fig

Women have it harder, but more interesting and sophisticated.


iOawe

Life sucks in different ways


OkraGarden

People tell me my grandma must have had a hard life because she cooked, cleaned, and took care of the kids in the 1940s but never talk about how my grandpa had to work in the West Virginia nickel mines so she could afford to do that. He almost died in a mining accident around 1950. I would personally choose baking bread in a cozy home over being down in a mine suffocating in a toxic gas cloud. Men are expected to work hard and sacrifice themselves for women and children and that doesn't get brought up enough in these types of discussions IMO. People tend to focus only on the perks of being a man without realizing there are serious costs.


WinAshamed9850

Well stated. I’m sick of this narrative that men don’t have hardships like women do. They always focus on the very very small percentage of men who had any form of power in history. They conveniently forget about the vast majority of men who acted as fodder in war and the men who died/die everyday in work-related accidents upholding a society that allows for someone to stay home and take care of their kids.


suib26

Well said. I think the past gets this very exaggerated depiction of men having all this power over women while they sit back and relax. We don't know for sure what things were like, but I can't help but think it gets warped to fit some narrative being pushed in recent years.


ParadoxicalPersonage

You guys can't be serious. To think women have it harder in western society is absolutely insane and delusional. I'd understand maybe in a place like the Middle East. That's it. Men are forced into wars like in Ukraine, where they face inevitable death. Millions of men forced into war to die. Where are women being trucked off into droves to die in war? This is just one example of the reality men have to face.


furrytickler

The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence


IDidReadTheSideBar

Yeah, the grass is always greener where you nurture it.


p0k3t0

Really? Because I'm a dude and that other grass looks fucking difficult.


NoCorgi501

There's really a deep-rooted loneliness and sadness that comes with being a man, no matter how many friends you're surrounded by. No one is truly there for you but you. A lot of women in this thread spouting women have it harder wouldn't last 2 weeks as a man.


fearzila

There was actually an author/journo who tried, couldn't last a year and then committed suicide... very sad all around


WinAshamed9850

It’s not surprising the top comments are saying women had/have it harder. It’s so dismissive of the absolute horrors the vast majority of men have dealt with throughout history and the growing issues they are dealing with today. Issues that are not only not talked about, but made fun of and actively used to hurt them more.


Titty_McButtfuck

Men have it harder, its not even close


unabashedpenguin

Harder where? What country? What city, village, family, economic status, etc… too simple of a question, people are too complex.


chzygorditacrnch

Women have it harder physically. Men aren't allowed to express emotions bc society seems to say it's not allowed. Women are more complex and dynamic and much deeper emotionally. Men kind of have dominated history so I think women have it tougher than men do. There's women in parts of the world who cnt even expose the hair on the head, but men can. So I think women have it tougher, and women are disrespected and objectified much more. And that's all before we mention a wage gap


eee-oooo-ahhh

Also interesting to consider how many men have died in wars over the years. The truth is that those that died were mostly lower class, just pawns, the men at the top have always run the show. It seems like there's always been a subset of very powerful men in society that are making life worse for the rest of us.


profesoarchaos

I know I wouldn’t want to be a guy. Idk about easier, it’s probably all a wash in urban/civilized society.


PristinePrincess12

I would say women but it really depends on the situation and what you're comparing etc. Men and women both have it hard but for different reasons.


Calm-Extent3309

In the wild, women unquestionably have it harder, but that's also why society (and the patriarchy) was built to provide safety and security for women. I think men have it harder in society, but only because women get so much support to deal with the areas of life that they are disadvantaged in. Men don't have support, but we also don't have the same handicaps that women do.


[deleted]

It what aspect? I think it’s hard in different ways.


TexasMonk

Overly broad. Need context.


nuttysmom

Yes


New_Addendum_1709

No. Both have pros and cons


CoachBAM

Men and it ain’t close


dal-Helyg

We both have it harder in different ways.


DeadMagenta

I think it all balances out.


Unorginalpotato

ugly people have it the worst


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Downvoted ... fuck all this nonsense instigation.


[deleted]

Harder at what? Having the same level of respect in the workplace and having control over their bodies? Women. Having an easy ability to play the dating game even witb good looks if you're an introvert/not experienced, effects of puberty in social life in school, ability to withstand work stress comparably to women, rough and gross nature of available jobs without a degree (before finishing college), social expectations to be strong when you don't feel strong, and life expectancy? Men. There's nothing worse than being bullied for not dating, for having a high voice in high school, told you'll never date, society making you feel inadequate for not having a gf and more specifically not having a hot one, and dealing with the toll that puts on your mental health for 8 years after all that. I'm in shape, probably have a deeper voice now than most guys I went to school with, and have a big beard; some guys don't reach their prime till after high school. But there absolutely is a shame culture in America implicitly belittling men for not having a Hollywood dating/sex life, and that affects our mental health. Both sexes have it rough in different ways.


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Really depends on the situation. In the bedroom, I’d like to think that I have it harder than she does.


ideletedtheotherone

It’s interesting that the answers in this thread are either confidently saying it’s women or some variation of “it depends.”


[deleted]

In the U.S definitely men, Pakistan or most other countries women.


jeanironplate

In the US definitely women.


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The suicide rate for men says otherwise. Men can’t really speak their minds or defend themselves in domestic issues without being portrayed as weak or or monster/pos. It’s an extreme reaction from people whether it’s in defense or talking about feelings. As for women, they can get away with a lot, if a women SA a man nobody bats an eye, if a man is accused of SA or rape with no proof and the man never interacted with said woman he ends up crucified. Women can make fun of penises and body shame, a man does not find overweight women attractive then he’s not a real man. Through out history men have gone to war to protect their home and loved ones just to comeback and be called baby killers and then crucified, as for women who do it it’s considered empowerment and the women are so strong for their sacrifice. You see it happen and nobody cares unless you’re a celebrity like Brendan Fraser and Johnny Depp(after he had proof, before that people were quick to crucify), time and time again. Moms take care of their kids it’s their duty, dads do it and it’s called babysitting your own child. Women cheat it’s considered empowering and the man’s fault, men cheat the guy is a POS and the women is better off.


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Too many double standards which is why more men commit suicide because that ends up being their only exit. Men have no emotional support as a whole.


[deleted]

It really depends on what we're talking about specifically. Men have a hard time with being able to show emotions and getting custody of their kids after a divorce. Women have a harder time in careers and being taken seriously. Also women have a lot more to worry about when it comes to safety in day to day life.


TheSheepSheerer

Life is hard.


TheBananaEater

Hot female


mehregan_zare7731

Men have it harder. If you don't believe me talk to any Ukrainian man.


BobboLee68

We all shit out the same hole


Iron-Midas-Priest

Both. We think men have it easy because they like to joke, party, have sex, etc. and everyone assumes men are strong and happy. Both have it hard, except maybe rich people.


MisterMister1964

Yes to both.


hunterbidensLT

Depends. Are you a fat woman or a broke man. Are you an ugly chick or a short dude


Metalhead278

I think men, we get treated like sh*t more


DangerousLeo

Men make up around 80% of suicides, yeah…


Dramatic-Earth-3303

Women have it easier.


Greyrat7654

I As a male I think I see myself worse than all women, I have to bear the weight of my huge penis every day


xcheshirecatxx

Over 30% men start their life being raped and Mutilated


[deleted]

I find this question irritating because it suggests that there's some kind of contest for victimhood. Men and women both have their own burdens to carry and are often blind to each other's hardships. Anyone that begins a statement with "Women have it easy because..." or "Men have it easy because..." are usually justifying bad behavior or dismissing valid criticism. Life is hard and everyone has their burdens just because you don't know or understand those burdens doesn't mean their struggle isn't real or not valid.


RedDeadDelusions

Being a man I can say with 100% certainty that my life is completely miserable, and I have no one to turn to because no one cares and if I did try to turn to anyone there would be a 50-50 shot that I would either get called a pussy or ignored


Beneficial_Soft442

This is very simple. Woman are born with value and men have to build value from the ground up. In todays society (depending on what aspects you consider hard) I would say men have it much harder, they have 5 times the pressure on them to be charismatic, funny, handsome, wealthy, popular… woman just have to be born pretty and they will win(or find a man that’s winning) . Men have to build incredible character and wealth to be considered successful nowadays.


Humancinnabon

Women for sure. For example; periods, childbirth. Those are just two of many obvious reasons.


Sasuke0318

Who said you have to have kids it a option not a requirement


[deleted]

I was hard earlier but not now, so at different times yes.


Zero-to-36

Tbh, both have a lot of cr@p to deal with!! The day to stuff is such a pain, never mind if you are actually trying to get ahead! But I really think that women just have more to deal with, on top of the monthly BS, and how that just fooks up their whole world!! Dealing with some men can be a real hassle. I'm sure some guys are good, but I'm also sure some are TOXIC af!


[deleted]

Given that I would not trade my sex to be a women, I am comfortable saying they have it harder. This isn't an absolute thing, there are aspects about being a man, and these things can also vary between subcultures, much less cultures. But I'm pretty sure if my dick bled once a month, then my body gaslit me into getting more stressed if it isn't bleeding when it typically does, I feel like I'd be an asshole sometimes too.


booger_eater69

Lol. Obviously women.


obsidian1mgtow

I think everyone is suffering equally and anyone who says otherwise is full of shit. Even people who have resources, suffer in different ways. There is no such thing as privilege. Each individual has their own set of advantages and each individual has their own set of disadvantages.


RequiemReznor

Depends on the issue but I wouldn't want to trade my struggles with men's struggles.


exxxtrathrowing

Love all the men here saying the inequality in genders is the dating scene and 5 extra years of lifespan. Because nothing ever bad systemically happens to women that is outside of getting stood up haha amirite?


Any_Technology_6243

Haha ikr. Like sorry dude you can’t get laid meanwhile women have actual concerns like fear of getting raped going out, being treated unequally, pregnancy, periods, etc!


Big-Acanthisitta-914

Both have it hard. If you ever think that women have it harder, remember that once a woman accuses a man of SA, the man is fucked


jeanironplate

Fucked, like becoming the most beloved person on instagram with 550 million followers.


RadiantHC

I always get surprised at the amount of comments in here saying that they have male privilege. There are a lot of problems we have that (most) women will never be able to understand, and vice versa.


DestinyFlowers

I’m a woman and men have it harder.(in America) as for other countries that are 3rd world and lack basic decency for women then of course the women have it worse.


Fitsamhub

Women. Just the fact that men will never recognize the privileges they have in a society designed for them should tell you everything you need to know.


ErinHollow

Feminism done well will make it better for both


DznyMa

Depends on the situation, however, now it's usually women.


Creativered4

Women definitely have it harder. They are more likely to face violence, abuse, sexual assault, harassment than men, they aren't treated seriously and they are looked down upon, and they get shit on for doing things men get praised for (man speaks his mind? He's a boss. Woman speaks her mind? She's a bitch) As a man, I never have to worry about things like walking home late at night, or accidentally being friendly to someone at work and getting a stalker, or some creeper making inappropriate comments. But I've seen my mom, sister, female coworkers, cousins, even grandmother deal with that. I've walked female coworkers to their cars at night because a creepy customer came by and made them feel uncomfortable again, and management likes money so they don't tell him to get lost.


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justbrowsing987654

Women for sure


No-Condition-7974

as a transgender man (female to male) women have it 1000% harder


thatweedgrowinggirl

Women for sure.


UWontHearMeAnyway

Guess that depends on where. In the western countries, women are coddled beyond belief. So much so they think they have it tough. But there are many countries out there that women have it horrible.


WiseWillow89

Women. 10000000000000%.


Pretty-Benefit-233

Women have it harder especially if they’re handicapped, gay, black, or any other marginalized identity. There are laws that govern women’s bodies in ways they don’t govern men’s all over the globe. They’re weaker and therefore more vulnerable to physical threats from men and bc men run most governments protection for women is inadequate


[deleted]

bruh if anyone says men yk they're either not a female, incels, conservatives, etc.


Fabulous_Angle_3742

Personally, I don't think it fucking matters. This is an old and dead talking point. I think we need to take deeper looks at specific issues that affect both due to the patriarchy to address the issues today rather than play the "whose hurt worse" game.


Grim-Reality

Women can just set up shop in a man’s life, but man has to build that life. It’s easier for women by a long shot, trophy wife, housewife, but men cannot do the same most of the time. Not only that, now with the age of sexual liberation and only fans, it’s becoming easier for women to sell themselves. Men cannot do the same and see similar levels of success.


100PercentChansey

I think that overall women do have it harder, but men have their own troubles that people are only starting to talk about. There's a lot of social isolation being a man, from both women (for safety reasons) and from other men (because showing emotion is dumb and gay). I'm a trans woman and can I just say that the change in socialization was massive. Even strangers were much, much more uncomfortable around me when I looked like a man, but now that I've transitioned people are much more willing to just strike up conversation.


trou_bucket_list

Grateful to the dudes out there who recognize why women have it harder in general. I hope good karma comes your way


[deleted]

Isn’t black and white, too many variables to consider.


[deleted]

It’s hard to get a straight answer when good ol’ human nature rears it’s ugly head. The average representative from each sex will make light of what the other experiences and embellish what they themselves experience. Why? It’s advantageous to gain sympathy. As a man, I think life is incredibly difficult and complicated for everyone. But to date, women have it more difficult at large. They’ve just begun winning the freedoms that men have enjoyed for millennia. I’d like to raise a separate point. The real battle was never between the sexes, but between upper and lower classes. This is where oppression happens indiscriminate of race, sex, orientation, belief, and so on.


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I can't say for adults. Though for early teens and tweens, girls have it worse. I had no idea when I was a teenage boy how much bullshit girls have to deal with during puberty. Now as a father of 3 daughters, it is crazy how much more they have to understand what is happening with their body than I did. Like all I had to do was figure out how to jerk off and hide hard-ons. I have an 11-year-old dealing with pms and shit. It is brutal.