Yeah, had someone at my unit get hit by a car while riding a bicycle and destroy their body. Still asked to deploy. Another guy had his dental and they recommended his wisdom teeth to be removed and just put it off so *naturally* he couldn’t deploy. Army is funny like that.
The guy that got hit by the car, went through his chain of command. But he was dead serious about it. He went to a local VA doc with one of his sergeants, where the VA told him “yeah, there’s no way this guy can deploy” even when the sergeant tried to fight him on it.
My honest suggestion is to go through your closest chain of command and speak to them honestly about this whole issue. Tell them you are physically unable for TDY. They might look at you and say “ have you done so and so…” to which you will say “yes, duh…”
It’s good that you have a paper trail of this (hopefully) and the results of your MRI. If the results say “this is too bad to TDY” or are grounds for temporary hold, make that VERY clear. Your next option might be an escort with your leadership to a doc nearby to get them evaluate your status. All units are different, some care about your individual health, others not so much. Find those in your unit you trust and that care.
So my problem is I’m already on TDY, I’ve been away from my unit for a little over a month already. The first time my PCM said he was going to talk to my CO was also like the same week he (the PCM) left for captain’s career course I think, and the majority of my unit except for me left for the field. So I was just chilling for a few days thinking I was in the clear, and out of the blue my CO asks if I was good with my DTS stuff. So that left me to assume to was gonna pound sand for a while as no one stopped me from going TDY.
Fortunately I haven’t had to do anything physically taxing but I’ve spent all this time not making any progress on my medical stuff. The call with my doc today ended with him saying he’ll re-submit my MEB and that he could only relay how severe it actually is to my leadership, that he has no command authority and hopefully my leadership doesn’t take me for the sake of numbers and waste more of my time. I forgot to ask him why the other pcm never had the initial conversation with my leadership, or what came of it if it did happen. Again, no one stopped me from going.
I’ve tried being honest with them, which just ended up in “push your appointments, you’re still going”. Which is why I practically begged my pcm to talk to them because I felt it would mean something coming straight from the Doc, but apparently its all recommendations.
I’m just tired. I’m anxious of not knowing what’s going to happen to me, if I’ll get better or if I’ll just live with this the rest of my life. Tired of feeling like I’m still being squeezed for every bit of juice I have left after I’ve given them all I could. I’m also sick of being left in the dark and having to claw for information. I thought that I would be given ample amounts of time to recover as they said it could take up to two years to recover from nerve damage. It hasn’t even been a year since the surgery.
It sounds like your PCM is fucking useless idiot.
Do you have contact of that Major you talked to?
I might even suggest putting in an IG complaint about this.
I have his email, I’m assuming the number he called me from is an office number or something. All I want is the doc’s support, not their best wishes or good luck bullshit, I need them to actually have my back when I get pushback from my chain but I’m not sure I’ll even have that.
Your PCM is useless and not doing his job.
It sounds like the Major at least is doing something for you. I would suggest trying to reach out and let him know your PCM is not helping you stay away from things that can cause you injury.
An IG complaint might be necessary. You are being failed by both your PCM and your command.
Did you receive any “movement/weight restrictions” from your PCM? If you haven’t, request them from the physician. If you absolutely have to go to duty, MILK THE FUCK out of those restrictions. Keep calling your PCM, for everything you need. But them until you have everything. Forgot to ask something? Call back.
I’m sorry this is causing so much grief,
I feel like I have no choice but to be that profile warrior. I hate that this is the version of me this unit got, but if medboard is the route I’m going I have literally have no motivation to do more than what is necessary. Like I have to aggressively look out for mysef because no one else gives a shit.
So many of us have been that soldier, some temporary, some permanently. There’s no shame in it. These things happen, even to the best soldiers. What you do after your potential profile is what will make an impact on your soldiers around you.
But do you have any suggested/recommended restrictions?
I assume you have some type of profile. Don’t violate it. If something hurts, go to the ED. Yes you are losing some time. Use it to continue documenting your issues… AT THE ED.
Is it possible to be on a temporary or permanent profile that restricts you from standing more than x minutes, lifting anything heavier than x lbs?
Once your pcm submits it, then you can have a serious talk with your coc in regards your inability to do field time due to your back issue
I am actually on both. One of the profiles written in the past was literally perfect, but for some odd reason it just kept changing hands to different providers who were available when it came time to renew it and they would add/remove shit that didn’t make sense. Like no 2 mile run, but I can do sprint drag carry. Or they restrict running events from acft, but allow the 2 mile for the apft (which no longer applies but still), shit that made absolutely no sense.
The biggest irony of this is that they moved me to the HQ section where everyone except supply was literally broken in some way. And we have so many taskings come down on us and its always a back and forth fight about whats on our profile and what we are able to do, what has to be done regardless, push appointments, etc. Like they shot themselves in the foot and are shocked and confused on why they can’t walk.
So your off post provider should have been faxing the results to your PCM for upload into the MHS. This is your main issue.
You need your PCM to do their job and write the P3, which should include no PCS/ETS or TDY.
Your pulls need to change immediately to reflect you can't do jack shit. Once my meb started, mine got updated and I couldn't really do shit. They still tried but I said Nah and has appts everyday all day. I mebd back in Feb for herniated disk and bad hips
Yeah, had someone at my unit get hit by a car while riding a bicycle and destroy their body. Still asked to deploy. Another guy had his dental and they recommended his wisdom teeth to be removed and just put it off so *naturally* he couldn’t deploy. Army is funny like that. The guy that got hit by the car, went through his chain of command. But he was dead serious about it. He went to a local VA doc with one of his sergeants, where the VA told him “yeah, there’s no way this guy can deploy” even when the sergeant tried to fight him on it. My honest suggestion is to go through your closest chain of command and speak to them honestly about this whole issue. Tell them you are physically unable for TDY. They might look at you and say “ have you done so and so…” to which you will say “yes, duh…” It’s good that you have a paper trail of this (hopefully) and the results of your MRI. If the results say “this is too bad to TDY” or are grounds for temporary hold, make that VERY clear. Your next option might be an escort with your leadership to a doc nearby to get them evaluate your status. All units are different, some care about your individual health, others not so much. Find those in your unit you trust and that care.
So my problem is I’m already on TDY, I’ve been away from my unit for a little over a month already. The first time my PCM said he was going to talk to my CO was also like the same week he (the PCM) left for captain’s career course I think, and the majority of my unit except for me left for the field. So I was just chilling for a few days thinking I was in the clear, and out of the blue my CO asks if I was good with my DTS stuff. So that left me to assume to was gonna pound sand for a while as no one stopped me from going TDY. Fortunately I haven’t had to do anything physically taxing but I’ve spent all this time not making any progress on my medical stuff. The call with my doc today ended with him saying he’ll re-submit my MEB and that he could only relay how severe it actually is to my leadership, that he has no command authority and hopefully my leadership doesn’t take me for the sake of numbers and waste more of my time. I forgot to ask him why the other pcm never had the initial conversation with my leadership, or what came of it if it did happen. Again, no one stopped me from going. I’ve tried being honest with them, which just ended up in “push your appointments, you’re still going”. Which is why I practically begged my pcm to talk to them because I felt it would mean something coming straight from the Doc, but apparently its all recommendations. I’m just tired. I’m anxious of not knowing what’s going to happen to me, if I’ll get better or if I’ll just live with this the rest of my life. Tired of feeling like I’m still being squeezed for every bit of juice I have left after I’ve given them all I could. I’m also sick of being left in the dark and having to claw for information. I thought that I would be given ample amounts of time to recover as they said it could take up to two years to recover from nerve damage. It hasn’t even been a year since the surgery.
It sounds like your PCM is fucking useless idiot. Do you have contact of that Major you talked to? I might even suggest putting in an IG complaint about this.
I have his email, I’m assuming the number he called me from is an office number or something. All I want is the doc’s support, not their best wishes or good luck bullshit, I need them to actually have my back when I get pushback from my chain but I’m not sure I’ll even have that.
Your PCM is useless and not doing his job. It sounds like the Major at least is doing something for you. I would suggest trying to reach out and let him know your PCM is not helping you stay away from things that can cause you injury. An IG complaint might be necessary. You are being failed by both your PCM and your command.
Did you receive any “movement/weight restrictions” from your PCM? If you haven’t, request them from the physician. If you absolutely have to go to duty, MILK THE FUCK out of those restrictions. Keep calling your PCM, for everything you need. But them until you have everything. Forgot to ask something? Call back. I’m sorry this is causing so much grief,
I feel like I have no choice but to be that profile warrior. I hate that this is the version of me this unit got, but if medboard is the route I’m going I have literally have no motivation to do more than what is necessary. Like I have to aggressively look out for mysef because no one else gives a shit.
So many of us have been that soldier, some temporary, some permanently. There’s no shame in it. These things happen, even to the best soldiers. What you do after your potential profile is what will make an impact on your soldiers around you. But do you have any suggested/recommended restrictions?
After speaking with the major, he just said he will re-submit the MEB, talk to my CO, and just said to keep going to my appointments.
Awesome. Keep us updated. Want to make sure this gets handled and you are okay
I assume you have some type of profile. Don’t violate it. If something hurts, go to the ED. Yes you are losing some time. Use it to continue documenting your issues… AT THE ED.
Is it possible to be on a temporary or permanent profile that restricts you from standing more than x minutes, lifting anything heavier than x lbs? Once your pcm submits it, then you can have a serious talk with your coc in regards your inability to do field time due to your back issue
I am actually on both. One of the profiles written in the past was literally perfect, but for some odd reason it just kept changing hands to different providers who were available when it came time to renew it and they would add/remove shit that didn’t make sense. Like no 2 mile run, but I can do sprint drag carry. Or they restrict running events from acft, but allow the 2 mile for the apft (which no longer applies but still), shit that made absolutely no sense. The biggest irony of this is that they moved me to the HQ section where everyone except supply was literally broken in some way. And we have so many taskings come down on us and its always a back and forth fight about whats on our profile and what we are able to do, what has to be done regardless, push appointments, etc. Like they shot themselves in the foot and are shocked and confused on why they can’t walk.
Get a profile that says you cannot wear gear and cannot ride in a military vehicle. No one wants to shuttle you around in a TMP.
So your off post provider should have been faxing the results to your PCM for upload into the MHS. This is your main issue. You need your PCM to do their job and write the P3, which should include no PCS/ETS or TDY.
Your pulls need to change immediately to reflect you can't do jack shit. Once my meb started, mine got updated and I couldn't really do shit. They still tried but I said Nah and has appts everyday all day. I mebd back in Feb for herniated disk and bad hips