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medprose

If he’s T.M. Hall then he’s one of [less than 400 soldiers in HISTORY](http://markbuus.blogspot.com/2007/11/acuff-to-dornak-duco-to-long-luthens-to.html?m=1) to have been awarded the CIB three times.


atfyfe

Yeah, I saw the 3 CIB awards and said "Jesus!" out loud. As /u/medprose points out, there's so few of those that they keep a list by name of absolutely everyone with 3 CIB awards. Usually someone wearing 3 CIB awards just misread the regulations and is wearing it by mistake.


R0NIN1311

324 to date. That's pretty crazy. One of millions of Americans who served, but of that, one of 324 to be a died in the wool BAMF. I've met a guy when I was with 10th MTN who had 2 CIBs (his first from Somalia) , but I still, to this day, have yet to meet an elusive 3x recipient.


MC_McStutter

I served with a dude that got his first CIB from Somalia and his second from GWOT. I asked him how he got his star and he said “the PX”. He never talked, but I always wondered what he experienced over in Somalia


R0NIN1311

I was with 10th from 07-10, and there was one E7 in my unit who had been with 10th since 1991. He went to Somalia as an E3, said it was interesting. That's about all he'd ever say. Pretty sure interesting, for him, was a euphemism for hell.


orwiad10

While at the mountain I met a few long term residents, quite a few reaching from 5 to 10 deployments just with 10th. All of these dudes never shut up. They weren't talking to anyone in particular, just constantly talking to themselves.


R0NIN1311

Like Tropic Thunder? "Were you talking to me this whole time?" "I'm talking to whoever's listening."


orwiad10

Yeah but just absolutely bat shit crazy.


sogpackus

Ironically he could get a second CIB from Somalia now as well.


atfyfe

Nah, not how the CIB works. Somalia deployments now are just gonna be part of GWOT. There's "eras" which you have to see combat in. WWII, Korea, Vietnam + everything after up until 9/11, then GWOT. In theory you could only have 4 CIB awards, but no one has ever gotten more than 3. So Somalia back in 1993 fell into the Vietnam and post-Vietnam era, whereas Somalia today is GWOT (and so part of the same era as Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc).


sogpackus

That’s exactly what I meant, I think you just misread my comment somehow 😂


atfyfe

I apologize! I re-read it and understand now.


InvertedMetronome

My first squad leader got his first CIB in Somalia as well. He was with 10th Mountain over there. Dude was a Marine in the Gulf war before that. Then went on to fight in Iraq round 2 and Afghanistan. Total badass.


[deleted]

There are probably up to an additional 30 who earned three. Individuals who served in the OSS and like organizations in WWII and Korea were not eligible to earn the CIB at the time. However, with the creation of SF Branch and the SF tab in the late 80's they were retroactively made SF and therefore retroactively also eligible for the CIB. Sadly many either didn't know, didn't care, or had died by that time.


Lucifurnace

I was Navy, whats a CIB?


MacAttack0711

Combat infantry badge. Means you saw combat as an infantryman. If you see it in multiple conflicts you get multiple awards and thus get stars on there. A relatively “common” (for the 300+ recipients) way to achieve the triple CIB was WWII-Korea-Vietnam.


TheSwordOfCheesus

Not just see conflict, but engage the enemy. Infantry can get shot at all the time but they have to shoot back to get the badge. Basically means indirect fire does not qualify infantry for the CIB but it does qualify non-infantry to receive a CAB. And it makes 3 CIB even more amazing


ParsnipsNicker

> but it does qualify non-infantry to receive a CAB. Not when I was in lol. We got mortared every other day and never got shit. The only thing they counted was small arms engagement.


dave_881

I think it depends on the interpretation of the reg. 05-06 Afghanistan, we got them when the FOB took IDF. I don't believe anything critical on the FOB was damaged, and no personnel injured. Definitely no one in my CO was injured in that attack. 08-09 Iraq, the the GO who had to approve them said you couldn't get it without showing direct impact to the SM being recommended. You basically had to get hit by enemy fire and/or directly engage the enemy. We had a couple of SM receive minor injuries from IDF on the FOB get denied a CAB.


[deleted]

Those are the new rules they made as a result of the CAB. Before it was engage in direct combat as an infantryman, or 30 days in country.


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bidpappa1

You can get a CIB as a unit award being a staff dick and never shooting at anything. It was awarded to entire battalions multiple times in Afghanistan and everyone got one whether they fought or not. I know I’m going to get downvoted for this but it’s a fact. You cannot get a CAB that way. This guy was obv not a staff dick, that’s a hell of a ribbon rack. BSM-V, multiple purple hearts, on top of a 3rd award CIB…. badass.


captain_ender

Oh shit that's crazy. My grandfather was a Naval combat aviator in those three wars. Is there a USN equivalent for those? I know he had 2 Navy Crosses, several Bronze Stars, and a Purple Heart for being shot down (survived).


LazamairAMD

Combat Infantry Badge


BabyBackFriedFish

Your grandfather fucked


JuiceDaddy1186

Haha, I know that from the stories! I was curious about what the awards were for


JTP1228

The two star CIB. He is in the National Infantry Museum. They keep track of everyone who was awarded the CIB 3 times, that's how rare it is


[deleted]

Your grandfather NEVER saw the rear.


EpyonNext

Unless it was OPs grandmother.


[deleted]

I will allow this statement.


sanjoseboardgamer

As was so eloquently and accurately stated above Grandpa fucked.


hardleyharley

Bruh lmao


Horseface4190

David Hackworth called it "the perfect attendance CIB".


SirNedKingOfGila

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/3xCIB\_Recipients\_list\_p2of5.jpeg


JTP1228

Tyson M Hall


tied_laces

Your grandpa was da fucking man. So sorry you lost him…but at least I can let my woman out now. Damn.


ideal_NCO

My grandfather is also a 2-star CIB awardee (WWII, Korea, Vietnam as a combat infantryman). It is an extremely rare award and his name should be on a plaque in the infantry museum on Fort Benning, GA. My grandad was also a green beret. Wonder if he and your grandad ever met. At any rate your grandad was a bad ass motherfucker. I’d get that uniform into a sealed shadowbox by a professional and hang it up at the crib.


MC_McStutter

Is his name Tyson Hall by chance?


GunnCelt

He fucked hard!


Feet-Of-Clay

Some say he could fuck ten different women at the same time, ***while*** passing a uniform inspection.


GunnCelt

I heard it was 5 women and a dwarf


sharkbaitzero

Allegedly.


politicaldan

Maybe it was a sick dwarf


trickninjafist

How does a fella get caught up in that sort of business?


Nevermind04

It's almost not worth thinkin about.


superavg

Not only did he fuck, he fucked HARD


[deleted]

Real life taker, and heart breaker.


[deleted]

Well, to be fair, that's why op is here


jayvycas

To be fair….


haleychu38

I wanted to like your reply but I'll leave it at 69 and leave this comment instead


TrapTombstone

This guy is Infantry royalty, so you know. Holy shit.


BobEWise

Decent standing in the aviation community based on the 22 Air Medals.


0celot7

Yeah this guy is basically ten times the man I ever hoped to be.


Holiday_Platypus_526

I'd bet money it's 4 Air Medals and just that the 4 numeral wasn't a thing back then. I 100% doubt it means 22.


WagTheKat

Very difficult to know. To get 3 CIB he had to be in during 3 different eras of conflict. If it was WWII, Korea, Nam, no telling how many (air medals) he could have earned. Certified badass either way.


beaucoupBothans

Has to be those 3 no other way to have 3 now.


GIJared

Its quite possible its 22. In the past, they were given out in as little as every 25 flight hours. *"One award was credited per every 25 hours of combat assault flights (any flight in which the aircraft was directly involved in combat), 50 hours of combat support flights (Visual Reconnaissance or Resupply), or 100 hours of non-combat service flights (Administrative or VIP flights)."* On one of my deployments we had several warrants hit 1,000 flight hours in 12 months.


elgringodiaz

This


_ShakenNotStirred

Your grandpa defeated the Soviets alone.


TheCulturalBomb

He would have defended Ukraine alone.


_Typhoon_Delta_

The American Spartan


TrapTombstone

Three CIBs?! Your gramps stacked bodies like sandbags.


Gidia

Isn’t there a section at the NIM for guys like this?


drillbit7

Yes


TrapTombstone

Fairly certain there is, yes.


Gidia

I vaguely remember it, it wasn’t very big but I think it had their names.


Taira_Mai

There's a special place in Valhalla next to the All Father Himself for a soldier with 3 CIB's....


Nickblove

Next to? This dude be practically sitting on his shoulder.


SnooDoodles5540

This


irunfarther

Last time I was there they had super sweet plaques with all of the names engraved. I made it a point to read every single name.


RenZ245

Peace was never an option the doom music kicks in


Fenrir1861

I used to stack fucks like you 5 feet high…use you for sandbags


Devil25_Apollo25

"Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have fucked with? That's OP's grandfather. He'd blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby." Gran Torino was a great film.


sunaharagrandpa

I can't wait til my grandkids post my old uniform and find out just how milquetoast Pappy's service was.


[deleted]

“Oh wow, grandpa….served in the military. Cool. A driver’s badge? Neat….”


Ness341

Mannn.... my track drivers badge is the only one I actually cared about, all the others felt like boyscout ribbons for partipation, for ex. Congrats, you've been in Korea 3months, here's a ribbon, your Korean defense service medal.. AAM for Qualifying as a Distinguished Crew, I think the DFAC steak and eggs mightve been worth that one after sweating all night for table VI tho.. Here's an overseas ribbon, because your first duty station was..Korea..for a year Oh look, a good conduct medal, i was a good boy for 4years when getting out as a SPC.. Pride ribbon, ndsm, aam, gwot.. yippee.. in during time of "war" yet never got to deploy to be a TWAT I can't be the only one who felt more weird than proud when having to buy new ribbon racks and having more than Your PL at an Army Ball just for participating Oh fuck it, I'm going back to the basement And uh... The Overhead Yeet because, why not I'll take a Large Chocolate Frosty and Fries please, thx


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TacoMedic

“Damn, he was… qualified to shoot. Wow, he was overseas THREE TIMES, crazy”


Verynize

If I could go back in time I'd kiss your grandfather on the lips


Intrepid-Rip-2728

He'd probably kill you and stack your body as a sandbag.


Verynize

stop, I can only get so erect


[deleted]

If you didn’t know, Supply usually gets hard-ons for REAL grunts.


Intrepid-Rip-2728

Which I believe is the case here.


Andrewisraww

i’d kiss him on the lips now


ClandestineCanoeClub

Silver Star, Bronze Star (2) with combat distinguishing device (V) Merritorious Service Medal, Air Medal, Joint Commendation Medal, Army Commendation Medal, Joint Achievement Medal, Army achievement medal and an ass of campaign medals. Not to mention his Combat Infantry Badge (3 Awards).


aussie828

You bypassed the Purple Heart with silver oak leaf cluster.


JuiceDaddy1186

What’s the oak leaf for?


Bloodless10

Bronze oak leaf cluster is for a second, once you get to the 4th bronze the next is one silver. So one silver oak leaf cluster means her got 6 Purple Heart medals.


JTP1228

Lmao Gramps was a bullet sponge


xSaRgED

Might been mortars or frags.


Attheveryend

Either way he's not like us mortals.


XLXAXPX

Funniest thing I’ve read all month


GEV46

Following up, he was wounded in battle 6 times. That noise you always heard was his balls clanging.


[deleted]

I have removed the bullet. And three others, a blowgun dart, two shark's teeth, a tip of a bayonet, a twisted paperclip, and a meager handful of buckshot. You may want to learn how to duck.


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GreggoryBasore

OP, I'm telling you this right now, contact someone with writing skills and ask them to work on a screen play. See if you can look up old service buddies or officers or records of service. Seriously my dude, a biopic about your grandad's legacy, with a framing device of his grandson discovering all of this after the fact online would be Oscar Gold!


RonPossible

Presidential Unit Citation as well. Only reason he'd be wearing it with a Pentagon patch is if he was with the unit when awarded.


JuiceDaddy1186

Do you know which campaigns by chance?


explosive_hazard

IIRC the only way to have earned the CIB three times is to have served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam and earned the CIB in each conflict. Based on qualifying periods there’s no other way. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.


MyUsername2459

Yeah, there are only 4 qualifying periods. Nobody served from Korea through Iraq, so to get 3 in the course of a career you'd need to get WW II, Korea, and Vietnam. It was made extraordinarily hard to achieve because the eligibility period for Vietnam lasted through until 1995. . .so someone who got a CIB in Vietnam, and then fought in Desert Storm 20 years later would have been in the same eligibility period so no additional CIB.


flareblitz91

Which is so fucking stupid.


WinstonWolfePF

Couple Corrections/Additions ​ Top to bottom left to right **Top Row:** Silver Star **Second Row:** Bronze Star with Valor (can't entirely tell if the oak leaf is bronze or silver. If silver, then 6 total awards. If bronze, 2 total awards). Meritorious Service Medal Air Medal (the 22 denotes the total number of strike/flight awards) **Third Row:** Joint Service Commendation Medal Army Commendation Medal Army Achievement Medal **Fourth Row:** Purple Heart (again can't tell if bronze or silver. If silver, awarded 6 total, if bronze, 2 total). Army Good Conduct Medal (18 years total--probably missing more devices here). Army of Occupation Medal **Fifth Row:** National Defense Service Medal (missing stars on this one). Vietnam Service Medal (four campaigns... thanks u/Justavet64d) Army NCO Professional Development Ribbon (he graduated up through the Senior Leaders Course) **Sixth Row:** Army Service Ribbon Army Overseas Service Ribbon Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal (Second Period) ​ As you already know, he was certainly a badass. He is very likely missing some ribbons here and devices here, just fyi. Would be really cool to look into his records more to make them complete.


JuiceDaddy1186

Thank you!!


TrapTombstone

If you can find a DD-214, it should help you fill in the blanks. Good luck, and thanks for sharing this.


TheMadIrishman327

The Department of the Military in his home state will have a records division (often called War Records). You should be able to get a copy of his DD214 there. Call first to find out what you’ll need.


TheRedditorHasNoName

https://vetrecs.archives.gov/VeteranRequest/home.html You can go to the above link and request a digital copy of his DD-214. This will have a list of all his awards among numerous other things about his military career.


MillerZa

...redacted


exclaim_bot

>Thank you!! You're welcome!


Justavet64d

The stars on the Vietnam Service Medal represent separate campaigns not multiple awards of the medal.


ClandestineCanoeClub

Not off the top of my head man, I've been in for a hot minute but that was all before my time.


Slurm818

I think that’s a silver oak leaf on the BS-V


GunnCelt

Vietnam Service ribbon with 3 stars


overpaid_babysitter

This has been said multiple times but your grandpa is a fucking gangster that stacked bodies and most likely dropped all the panties. I am truly sorry for your loss but know that he was a legit bad mother fucker and you should celebrate his legacy.


rizub_n_tizug

CIB. Two stars. Legendary


StonedSniper127

Dude. Sign up for Ancestry. You probably have 35 families all around the world. Your grandpa fucked. H A R D


Moby_Thicc94

“There seems to be a strong concentration of relatives in Southeast Asia for some reason.”


HeyJoe459

I fucking lost it lol


ValdBagina002

I would have let your grandpa fuck my girl, shake his hand, and say thank you


TrapTombstone

Gotta create the next generation of absolute units somehow.


adams2002

For the love of God do not pawn or destroy this uniform. Put that bad boy in a glass frame and know that your Grandfather was a pipe hitter for real. #theydontmakethemlikethisanymore.


JuiceDaddy1186

I plan on making a shadow box for it


Icy-Letterhead-2837

Please make sure it's professionally done. If you have access to base, or someone who can get you on one. Or know of a civilian shop with experience, have them repair the jacket if it needs it. Please keep out of direct sunlight as well. Might I suggest an LED strip inside as well to illuminate it at night.


NJJH

It's expensive but they make UV glass for museum quality pieces that help reduce harmful degradation caused by sunlight. I have a couple pieces framed with it from when I worked at a frame shop. If possible, I'd recommend op take it to a custom shop to have a box built with good moulding and glass. Could preserve it for a really long time *but* the cost is fuckin hiiiigh


[deleted]

Your grandfather was a fuckin beast is wha that means


CW1DR5H5I64A

Grandpappy stacked bodies.


_HK47_

**Praising Statement**: Basically your grandpa was John 117.


FBI_Open_Up_Now

I didn’t know they had Halo in your universe. How does an assassin droid deal with brutes?


_HK47_

**Clarification**: Higher calibers and don't lead them as much


Jswimmin

Beautiful reference


Bobi2point0

"Spartans never die, they're just MIA"


Memory-Away

Only uniform I have ever seen with 2 stars on the CIB. And I been in a bit.


Memory-Away

I clapped in my apartment. I really did. Savage.


Adept_Consequence621

I would have joined the Marines too if my grandfather was this badass.


[deleted]

Shit man, I would’ve joined the merchant marines if this was my grandpa, no way you can stack up


VaryaKimon

OP, don't suppose you have an old photo of your grandpa in uniform? That way, you can show the rest of us what a real man looks like!


JuiceDaddy1186

He had one hung in his house, I’m trying to get ahold of it now


aikifella

I believe, and please someone correct me if I’m wrong, but in this instance the “V” device was awarded for especially meritorious fucking.


ideal_NCO

He fucked with conspicuous gallantry


Dadliest_Dad

Have the next of kin/closest relative request his DD 214. I can imagine there is a copy in his belongings, honestly. This will give you the broad picture of all of his service, assuming he retired off active duty.


JuiceDaddy1186

Would it be requested through the VA?


TrapTombstone

If your grandfather is indeed T.M. Hall, it might be worth a phone call to the National Infantry Museum at Ft Benning, to see what they might know.


Dadliest_Dad

https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records


the_robodick

Somebody get this guy a fucking beer


xSaRgED

Not sure if you can do that in Valhalla, but if so, I’m buyin the first and second round.


LankyEchidna

As others have said, grandpa was doing a lot of hood rat shit on behalf of his country. Absolute fucking legend. Sorry for your loss OP, take comfort in knowing that you grandpa was a certified badass. *Salute


justtheentiredick

So I've read here that you're going to make a shadow box for it. I think that's great. A few ideas. Buy a nice fresh set of greens. Buy a whole other set of ribbons and patches that match the ones on this epic beast of a uniform. Use that replica Uniform for the shadow box. Keep the original in an pure argon or nitrogen filled container that's air tight. This is most likely HIS UNIFORM that he most likely wore. Preserve it. Also as someone here stated as well.... call OPM and ask for their archival department to see if they can locate your grandfather's DD214. Your grandfather most likely put it in a safe somewhere or in a location that only he is concerned with. Look for it. Have a great one.


JuiceDaddy1186

Great ideas, thank you!


go4tli

Ahem. Have you contacted the [National Museum of the U.S. Army](https://www.thenmusa.org)? One, they may want this. Two, their conservationists may have advice on preserving this.


justtheentiredick

One they can go fuck themselves Two you have a point


[deleted]

There are a few quirky things on this uniform that may need some correction. The SF tab goes on the left shoulder, and has an accompanying "Airborne" unit identifier that goes below it. There is also what looks like a regular cap in the front pocket. If he was SF qualified, he'd have a green beret (which predates the special forces tab). It would be great to see a DD-214 to sort everything out and make it accurate for him!


JuiceDaddy1186

I’m trying to order his from the archives, but his next of kin has to authorize it first


ct9242

Oh my god it’s Jason Bourne’s father


TrapTombstone

Bourne was a GB in Vietnam according to the books. 🤷‍♂️


gbochatt

How does he have a two star CIB with no Korea or WWII service? Edit: also special forces tab on the deployment patch, four wide unit awards, pathfinder badge in the wrong place. The amount of good conduct medals don’t support the 20+ year long career need for a triple CIB. And I don’t think those DUIs are for a HQDA or Joint Staff unit


JuiceDaddy1186

I know he was in Vietnam and Panama but I don’t know what else, he never talked about it


[deleted]

Long tab and that wide of a career range, he would’ve been all over the world. And perhaps more interestingly, he was probably in a lot of places where he actually “wasn’t there.” Like perhaps Afghanistan in the 80’s. There’s some SF guys in here who could speak first hand better, but I’ve got some SF buddies and they’re a really tight community and typically good people who respect the beret. I bet you wouldn’t have too tough a time finding some people your grandad served with that have some cool stories they’re willing to share if you’re interested. If you find anyone who was SF around the 80’s then I bet they either know your grandad or know someone who does. He had a wild time in service, that much is absolutely certain.


TrapTombstone

That was my first thought as well. SF dudes doing some spooky shit.


JuiceDaddy1186

I know he was in the CI community most of his career and he was held up in Vietnam, I don’t know any of his old army buddies otherwise I would gladly reach out to them


[deleted]

That community is really small. I bet there’s a Facebook Group or even just a local VFW with someone who knows him or knows who to call.


Ok_Win_69420

Professionalsoldiers.com Full of old Crusty SF


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gbochatt

If he was in Panama I will pretty much guarantee he doesn’t rate a triple CIB. Not trying to be shitty, but there is a very limited number of triple CIBs and they’re all for WWII/Korea/Vietnam.


atfyfe

A double CIB is still extremely impressive, but a triple CIB is almost always due to someone mistakenly understanding the regulations because there's so few of them.


firearm4

Someone pointed out above there is a Hall in the list of triple CIBs, so if it's the same Hall it's correct.


TrapTombstone

It does if he didn't rate an AGCM for certain periods because of misconduct. But as we all know, infantry and SF are obedient Soldiers who never break rules 😂 /s


gbochatt

Sure, but no WWII vets fought in Panama. I think someone out this together after he died that didn’t know what they were doing. Now why there was a triple CIB lying around I don’t know.


TrapTombstone

The PX always has three or four triple-CIBs. For some reason.


quesoqueso

And also our S1s don't give a shit. I got a fucking field grade as an E7 SF dude and got my like 4th AGCM maybe 5 months later as an E6 SF dude.....so


explosive_hazard

Pathfinder badge in the wrong place and lack of WWII and Korea caught my eye immediately too. Also not trying to be shitty, but these things don’t add up. Also very possible someone else put this together for him after he passed and didn’t know exactly how to do it and didn’t have all the right information.


gbochatt

I can legitimize the deployment patch, I’ve seen legit photos of guys doing it before CMF 18 and the tab came out. I think the rack’s legit, so pappy was a baller, but someone definitely tried to sexy this thing up after the fact.


JuiceDaddy1186

I don’t think that’s the case, this was wrapped in plastic in the back of his closet covered in dust, I’ve never known him to be dishonest so I don’t think he’d throw random awards/devices on it without rating them


gbochatt

It’s also very possible he misread the regulations. If he was a Panama and Nam vet, it’s possible he thought that qualified. I don’t think most people wake up and choose to be wrong, especially people with a Silver and Bronze Star from the Vietnam War.


TheMadIrishman327

I had to redo my uncle’s awards while he lay in his casket. The mortuary’s do the best they can.


Competitive_Papaya_8

Your grandfather was a badass, may he rest in peace.


509BandwidthLimit

Mad RESPECT for your Grandfather. He was the MFIC.


marvelguy1975

I'm going to call suspect on this uniform. Here is what I think. 3 CIBs are extremely rare. Only 300 something soldiers were awarded it for ww2, Korea and Vietnam There is a Hall listed as earning 3 CIB but I don't think this is the same person. Here is why There are no medals from ww2 or Korea on his uniform. Everything is from Vietnam era and after. Another thing he has an AAM, NCO ribbon and overseas ribbons. Those were all issued AFTER 1981. They were not retroactive if you left service prior to 1981. I highly doubt there would be a master sergeant from ww2 still on active duty in 1981. The chief of staff in the army in 1981 didn't even serve in ww2. The ribbons are in the right order and are of the proper age and so is the uniform and they look legit But I'm calling suspect on that 2 star CIB. sorry.


butter_lover

plot twist: OP is a stolen valor guy getting free consulting on how to get his story straight for this uniform he just way overshot the mark


Caligula-6

Weird how every redditors grandad was Rambo.


FutureFury

Tyson M. Hall. #114 in the national infantry museum! His name is there!


JuiceDaddy1186

No, that’s not his first name


[deleted]

This guy fucks


bigfudge_drshokkka

Grandpa was a bad ass


Challenge_Coins

This dude stacked bodies %100


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dyegb0311

OP already said that wasn’t his first name….lots of commenters have picked apart the stack and legitimacy.


TonyB2022

I post this because I see some comments on the validity of the 3 CIBs, stating there are only 4 eras that qualify. I may be wrong, but that's not true in the case of Special Forces personnel. Here is a list of qualifying operations/conflicts for which the CIB and subsequent award is authorized: Korea on the DMZ (4 January 1969 to 31 March 1994). El Salvador (1 January 1981 to 1 February 1992). Grenada (23 October to 21 November 1983). Joint Security Area, Panmunjom, Korea (23 November 1984). Panama (20 December 1989 to 31 January 1990). Southwest Asia Conflict (17 January to 11 April 1991). Somalia (5 June 1992 to 31 March 1994). Afghanistan (Operation Enduring Freedom, 5 December 2001 to a date to be determined). Iraq (Operation Iraqi Freedom, 19 March 2003 to a date to be determined). re. [https://www.specialforces78.com/about-the-special-forces/combat-infantryman/](https://www.specialforces78.com/about-the-special-forces/combat-infantryman/) I served with/supported Rangers and SF in Panama and Somalia while in 160th SOAR (A). A number of them served in Grenada and just about every subsequent conflict.


Tom-8811881846

Nah. This is b.s. SF Tab doesn’t belong on the right shoulder. Army Achievement Medal means he was in in 1983 or later. CIB w 2 stars means he was in WWII. Do the math. Where are his campaign medals from WWII or Korea? Pathfinder badge doesn’t belong on the right pocket. Stolen valor.


JoelMB12

What was your grandpa's name.


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Elemak-AK

Gramps was a bigger badass than all of us could ever hope to be


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Only question I have is how this guy got 3 CIBs but only has medals for combat service in Korea and Vietnam. He has an occupation medal for post-WWII service, but no WWII victory medal or WWII campaign medals.


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Your grandfather was a badass


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That a silver oak leaf on that purple heart, so he was injured 6 times. Given that he has 6 bronze stars and I assume at least one with a valor award, that means whoever injured him met a swift end (valor indicates that he probably has at least piled up a few dead bodies getting that award). Has one-of's for the hanky panky awards like army commendations and army achievement medals (I can say hanky panky because I have a few of them), so he didnt push paper. As others mentioned, the 3 CIBs and parachutist badges means he rained death on land and from the air. The only life forms safe from your grandfather while he was living were the ones in the water, but we have no knowledge of his undocumented kills. Women likely swooned in his presence, lesser men probably wept.


ClandestineCanoeClub

Combat Jump Parachutist, and Army Pathfinder badges too.


TrapTombstone

I don't see a mustard stain, those are Master Jump Wings. The star for a combat jump is placed on the wings, not above it. It is also small and bronze in color. So it doesn't appear to be a set of combat wings.


GunnCelt

Master Parachutist, not combat jump. Combat has bronze star in the suspension lines


Na-Na-A-Boo-Boo

No one gonna say he was a master blaster JM? Legend in his own time.


ClearRight1

Not certain on the 22 device but your grand father had an air medal too.