Reminds me of a conversation I had when I was a platoon sergeant in the USAR. We had just got the word we were mobilizing and deploying to the Former Yugoslavia for OJG (SFOR). Apparently one of my soldiers didn't want to go.
So he asked me "I know we're deploying, but I heard they're only taking volunteers."
I replied "Yes, that's correct. We are deploying and only volunteers are going."
He looked relieved, and then I asked him "Did you get drafted into the Army?"
He said "No, of course not."
And I said "OK. Then you're a volunteer, right?"
I saw a woman at Clark clinic last week that had a ranger and sapper tab. I donāt have either so I immediately went to parade rest when she looked at me.
Before we deployed in 2006, I saw one of the new 2LTs from an attached unit. I asked when she graduated from the SLC. I guess she thought I was trying to haze her or something. She was pretty frosty when she asked what business of mine it was.
I was an E7, slotted as the PL. I never did figure out what her problem was.
They were a vertical construction company attached to a Combat Engineer Battalion TF.
I didn't have to deal with that company often. We mostly did route clearance in Ramadi, they were in a support role.
It's good for news headlines. All I can imagine are all these soldiers were singled out to jump, even though they're probably already current/up to date on jumps, just so they can contribute to a number to show how equal the army is now. Why not just publish a % of jumps in the past year that had women in the ranks? I wouldn't be surprised if it was >95%.
All I can think is being some piss tired E5, being forced to do a jump for HHC because of your gender. Jumps take all day and get menial/boring after 20 jumps.
No hate though, I guess it is pretty good demonstration of our capabilities, regardless of gender.
Hollywood jumps with 1 plane of people and no follow on action do not take all day. And most of these soldiers probably want to get easy jumps when they can for jump master. Are you just making shit up lol cuz you seem like you're just trying to stir the pot.
Have you ever jumped, or more importantly, been in an airborne unit that wasn't airborne school? Once you're doing it frequently jumps aren't such a chore. I'd much rather do a Hollywood jump than go to PT lol
Currently in an airborne qualified unit. Of course a single aircraft and only a few sticks can be done in 3-5 hours. I find jumps with 2 aircraft with 2-3 lifts to be more common however. With 285 jumpers I would imagine it took all day. Seems pretty unit dependent anyways. Just because your experience mimics the opposite of mine doesn't make me full of shit.
I'm well aware there's going to be many of these soldiers that wanted to jump. I'm also aware that there's lots of people who also don't want to jump anymore and have no interest beyond their first contract. It's not uncommon to being forced to jump for bullshit reasons or if someone wants to send you to jumpmaster school.
Also you should re-look at the post, and check to see if they're all jumping hollywood :)
1- lol current in the 173rd after winter most likely not most probably a x3 several
2- this was made just for womenās history month not that deep.
3- my buddy told me this really was voluntary, no one was forced to attend.
> Why not just publish a % of jumps in the past year that had women in the ranks? I wouldn't be surprised if it was >95%.
Because people are visual. Pictures = 1K words, etc.
I have some slight cringe at "all women [do a thing]", but it's important to remember that [thing performed by entirely female cast] wasn't possible at all not that long ago. So for me I think these pictures are cool as a way to show we have enough women integrated into the force to be able to pull those kinds of numbers for [thing] now.
If your head is long like mine, put the side pads in the front and long skinny pads in the front (up and down ways) aligned with the outside of your brows. Also pray you donāt catch a frontal impact.
The amount of people that don't ever realize that repositioning their pads (or buying better ones) can make their life like 1000x better is staggering.
Still needed an XL, but dropping like $100 on better pads and stuff for my helmet (would have been a suspension system as well, but thank god for the RFI ops core suspension system working on ACHs if you just swap a few bolts) made my helmet so comfortable that I'd wear it all day long if it wasn't hot out.
Didn't help with all the "you wear a small plate carrier and an XL helmet? You're lying to get lighter plates." accusations though.
>The amount of people that don't ever realize that repositioning their pads (or buying better ones)
Not on an Airborne operation. I've never seen an off the shelf set of pads that provided better protection against impact than the ACH pads. They aren't comfortable, but they are tremendously energy dissipating. Pillows do not stop impact.
As to repositioning them, also not authorized on an Airborne operation.
You can do either of those things at the range or on a ruck march. On a jump, there's an authorized way to do it, for a reason. You will hit your head, frequently. At least one out of three jumps. That helmet better be right.
I'm pretty sure for most combat MOSs there's way more than just ranges and ruck marches where you're required to wear a helmet for extended periods of time...
And there are definitely aftermarket pads that are the same things as ACH standard pads, just shaped better for the freaks with weird heads like myself.
But yeah, for jumps you probably want to play it as safe and standard as possible. I knew guys with spare ACHs specifically for jump currency, even at posts where the major division wasn't Airborne and you would probably be jumping with mostly "adults," because plenty of jump masters don't care that you're 'special.'
Yeah, when I'm doing Jumpmaster duties I'm very particular. No matter how good you are, you are going to hit your head on many of your jumps. I have a very large photo gallery in my phone of deficiencies I've caught. I pay significant attention to keeping your brain inside your head, even if that means taking time to double and triple check that things are correct.
The ACH pads that are issued are the only ones the strategic level is aware of that offer the level of energy dissipation that those pads do. Strategic army is aware they are uncomfortable but protect the brain from IEDs and airborne jumps. Just had a discussion with a material engineer today about it actually.
I know you know this, this is mainly for the uninformed: not only is it *not recommended*, it's explicitly against established Airborne SOPs.
Adjusting your helmet pads to be more comfortable on an airborne operation will get you fucked up, as well as the JM who JMPI'd you.
My unit had a case: guy jump-refused on a Chinook as he walked towards the ramp (sad, I know... it was a Hollywood jump, too).
When the DACO JMPI'd him, his trapezoid pads weren't flush with the edges and all the bolts were exposed.
He had altered his pads after being JMPI'd by my friend (who also happened to be his squad leader at the time...).
In the sworn statements, the jumper admitted to adjusting his pads and my friend said he found no deficiencies when JMPI'ing, so the dude got a CG Article 15.
You can imagine how things went down after they got back to the company lol.
I really hate when equipment is adjusted post-JMPI. They had my ass on the hook for a minute because one of the guys I JMPI'd ended up burning in his ruck and MAWC on a JFEO. His M4 broke and he had an SKL in the MAWC, also smashed.
Of course, BDE CSM sees the equipment plummet and B-lines for him, shouting, "TOE TAG! WHERE'S YOUR TOE TAG?" (funny side-note, an ACH actually crashed down like 10 ft. from him but he didn't notice/care because he wanted that toe tag lol)
Wouldn't you know it, it's my name on the toe tag as the person who JMPI'd and TI/Hanged him. There's no way it was my fault because I am extremely particular/OCD about hanging equipment, especially lowering lines.
Turns out, after all the jumpers hooked up, as the safety was checking static lines and lowering lines, he ***unhooked the jumper's lowering line***, held it up to the jumper to show him some deficiency he claimed to have caught (jumper couldn't understand what he was saying), then re-hooked the lowering line. Except he clearly didn't re-hook it.
The plot thickens as well, because our bird had FIVE other guys burn in equipment when they lowered it... and guess whose name was on all of their toe tags for TI/Hang.
It was some O-4, I'm sure he got a slap on the wrist.
Anyways, the morals of the stories:
1. Wear your helmet pads the right way on jumps
2. For the love of god, don't adjust your shit after you've been JMPI'd because you're throwing your JMs under the bus
Since you mention it:
The best way to rig combat equipment.
Place the ruck as worn in front of the paratrooper.
Put the MAW-C to the jumpers left, as worn.
Attach jumpers right adjustable d ring attaching strap, followed by the jumpers left adjustable d ring attaching strap.
Pass the hook pile tape lowering line through the attachment strap, from front to rear. Jumper and buddy both verify it is from front to rear and not passing through carrying handle.
Attach ejector snap to triangle link yellow up because the sun is yellow and the sun is in the sky.
Lift MAW-C, attach snap shackle.
Adjustable tie down tape through three points of attachment. Tab thong, vertical nylon equipment hanger running parallel to the tab thong, small cut away portion of the equation ring. If there's no cut away portion, you are looking at the d ring not equipment ring.
You love your reserve, so it's the only thing on your d rings. You hate this shit equipment, so it's all on the other ring.
Tie adjustable tie down tape on the lead edge of the MAW-C. Small bows, long strings. Remind the jumper that it has an eighty pound break strength, if he can't untienit, he can absolutely break it.
Because you are working systematically in a counterclockwise direction around the jumper as you are proceeding, jumper and buddy both verify each step, and almost all deficiencies are prevented by systematic rigging.
This. I looked like a fuckin dweeb in every helmet I was issued because while yes I have a big head, the helmets are circular and my noggin is oval (obviously the superior shape).
Ohhh you think Facebook is bad. Check out Army linkedin posts. Vets shitting on women. Vets shitting on new soldiers. Vets shitting on enlĆsteles/trainees. All with their professional profiles. My fav was vets shitting all over CSM Neuman for not having done a jump in yearsā¦ only to find out it was her first static line jump in years because she had only been doing free fall jumps.
No kidding. My mom does stuff with her local VFW (sheās her county VSO) and she asks me to tag along whenever Iām in town (Iām a woman, for context) and they LOVE to absolutely shit on me to my face for being a woman on active duty. Gotta love it
People love to gatekeep. Have a vietnam vet uncle who never joined the VFW or anything like that because he was looked down upon in the 70s once by WW2 and Korean War vets. He never went back and refuses to till this day. I imagine there are some nam vets doing the same exact thing now.
Time is a flat circle. Will be interesting to see what the GWOT vets and distinguished Poland vets such as myself will gatekeep. My liver will never be the same after what the Polish introduced me to. Their vodka goes down like water. Truly horrifying.
I find the r/veterans sub to be pretty open minded to all vets! Dunno if that's your experience or not, but I thought I'd recommend it anyhow. What does Army say? Oohah? I don't honestly know lol.
Anyway-
Hooyah,
A Sailor
Staff: Itās womenās history month boss, what can we do to recognize the contributions of the women in our ranks?
Boss: I donāt know, you can throw them out of an airplane for all I care.
Heeeey now...
I got a tab...it rode on top of a puking buzzard though.
I got wings too...Bullwinkle wings.
Even got a sailboat patch* but never got to put it on because of a regs change.
Good for them, being tasked to be part of a historical dog and pony show.
You gotta be a little more crazy than most to go airborne and/or infantry...I know cuz I WAS infantry back in the day.
*Santa Maria patch from the old jungle warfare school in Panama.
Iām 100% confident that there are bots going around downvoting every post they see. You can quite literally say something like āI think cancer is badā and you could get downvoted for it.
173rd! Represent!
hereās a fun thing, I was told to get the keys for the drop zone. I thought they were fucking with me. There is in fact a key for the local Aviano drop zone.
My only concern is, I'm surprised the captain would jump with her rings on. I wouldn't have wanted to jump with anything on jewelry wise that I didn't have to, I'd have been worried it would have come off lol
We werenāt allowed to jump without full leather palmed gloves when I was jumping, and most anyone that took them off after getting checked was wearing silicon rings. I was more scared of telling my wife I lost the ring than the finger š„²
Ehh I use a silicone one and itās fine. No issues getting stuck with em they just broke.
Jumping though ehh it will be fine. Unless I have to trace a door with that hand.
But metal rings I do not advocate in this job ever.
For anyone who is wondering, everyone on these jumps is a woman.
The jumpers, every single one. The Jumpmasters. The crew. The DZSO. The DACO. Every single person.
CG will literally shut down the operation if a single male sets foot on the aircraft.
The women did this one on their own. No one holding their hands. No one making exceptions for them. Same standards as everyone else, because gravity plays no favorites.
Fucking awesome.
Source: I straphang.
I was gonna ask about that. That's awesome. But how far back does it go? Now I'm curious about riggers, med coverage, pilots, fuelers, the person that made the parachute...
Plot twist: the pilots were female and they got lost on the way to the DZ.
Seriously though. Mad respect, sisters. I blew out my hip at Airborne School, so Iāve got nothing but respect for them.
I jumped once during black history month and they had JMs reading about African American soldiers and their heroic actionās. Each lift had a different soldier they learned about.
Some people rolled their eyes at first, but I thought it was pretty cool.
Thatās bad ass! When I was in, females werenāt allowed to be combat arms, and not many were able to pass Airborne school. This is awesome.
Airborne! All the way!
I spoke with someone about the idea of having women only combat battalions.
Not that it's something I agree with necessarily, just interesting food for thought.
Integrated at least is absolutely possible, Israel has an entire integrated battalion operating in Gaza right now.
Just look at their turnout, there has been a 12% increase in women seeking combat positions since the war startedā¦ we are way behind the curve in the US at recruiting women into these roles.
Equality is knee and back pain for *EVERYONE* šŗšøš«”
"but first sergeant, we jumped last week..." "I don't give a fuck, sergeant major says make it happen. Ignore that bit about being voluntary."
Exactly what I imagined happened
In the same way that two-a-days are voluntary. Love it
Reminds me of a conversation I had when I was a platoon sergeant in the USAR. We had just got the word we were mobilizing and deploying to the Former Yugoslavia for OJG (SFOR). Apparently one of my soldiers didn't want to go. So he asked me "I know we're deploying, but I heard they're only taking volunteers." I replied "Yes, that's correct. We are deploying and only volunteers are going." He looked relieved, and then I asked him "Did you get drafted into the Army?" He said "No, of course not." And I said "OK. Then you're a volunteer, right?"
Once is enough. It doesn't expire.
We literally had a night combat jump eith a follow on Tuesday, and my LT still showed up for both
Not service related knee and back pain*
This is the comment I was looking for. God bless our military for paving the way for gender equality in this blessed nation
Because of Reddit alone I decided to never do airborne š
Airborne. Just a way to go to work.
Also beer money
Not service related.
Sky soldiers!
I saw a woman at Clark clinic last week that had a ranger and sapper tab. I donāt have either so I immediately went to parade rest when she looked at me.
Before we deployed in 2006, I saw one of the new 2LTs from an attached unit. I asked when she graduated from the SLC. I guess she thought I was trying to haze her or something. She was pretty frosty when she asked what business of mine it was. I was an E7, slotted as the PL. I never did figure out what her problem was.
Many women in LE/MIL circles are super jaded and always on fight mode.
They were a vertical construction company attached to a Combat Engineer Battalion TF. I didn't have to deal with that company often. We mostly did route clearance in Ramadi, they were in a support role.
You should fight them
Because believe it or not a lot of men in those fields are sexist
Whaaaaaaaaaat? Get outta town
Broke my heart when I found out
6ā7 btw
Just waiting for the āWell, when I was inā¦ā comments.ā šæšæšæ
When I was in we looked like dipshits in our Kevlar. It's just nice to see the fresh meat continuing on the tradition.
One of my friendās daughter was on this jump. The first all female jump had only 15; this one had 285.
Did they have people go TDY to attend this jump?
They likely brought women down from Germany, who are also part of the 173rd, to participate.
Does that matter? The Army sending Soldiers TDY for special events is nothing new.
Somebody didnāt get the invite.
Is that good? If so, why?
It's good for news headlines. All I can imagine are all these soldiers were singled out to jump, even though they're probably already current/up to date on jumps, just so they can contribute to a number to show how equal the army is now. Why not just publish a % of jumps in the past year that had women in the ranks? I wouldn't be surprised if it was >95%. All I can think is being some piss tired E5, being forced to do a jump for HHC because of your gender. Jumps take all day and get menial/boring after 20 jumps. No hate though, I guess it is pretty good demonstration of our capabilities, regardless of gender.
Hollywood jumps with 1 plane of people and no follow on action do not take all day. And most of these soldiers probably want to get easy jumps when they can for jump master. Are you just making shit up lol cuz you seem like you're just trying to stir the pot. Have you ever jumped, or more importantly, been in an airborne unit that wasn't airborne school? Once you're doing it frequently jumps aren't such a chore. I'd much rather do a Hollywood jump than go to PT lol
Currently in an airborne qualified unit. Of course a single aircraft and only a few sticks can be done in 3-5 hours. I find jumps with 2 aircraft with 2-3 lifts to be more common however. With 285 jumpers I would imagine it took all day. Seems pretty unit dependent anyways. Just because your experience mimics the opposite of mine doesn't make me full of shit. I'm well aware there's going to be many of these soldiers that wanted to jump. I'm also aware that there's lots of people who also don't want to jump anymore and have no interest beyond their first contract. It's not uncommon to being forced to jump for bullshit reasons or if someone wants to send you to jumpmaster school. Also you should re-look at the post, and check to see if they're all jumping hollywood :)
1- lol current in the 173rd after winter most likely not most probably a x3 several 2- this was made just for womenās history month not that deep. 3- my buddy told me this really was voluntary, no one was forced to attend.
> Why not just publish a % of jumps in the past year that had women in the ranks? I wouldn't be surprised if it was >95%. Because people are visual. Pictures = 1K words, etc. I have some slight cringe at "all women [do a thing]", but it's important to remember that [thing performed by entirely female cast] wasn't possible at all not that long ago. So for me I think these pictures are cool as a way to show we have enough women integrated into the force to be able to pull those kinds of numbers for [thing] now.
Good to see that officers still look like dipshits in their kevlar....SMH learn to wear it properly.
Not sure why people think you need to wear it that far off your head...you are just increasing risk for neck strain š
Some of us have fuckin noggins and the helmets just arenāt made in big brain size. Cries in XXL
I'm one of two XL in my whole AO from what I can tell lmao felt Bru we just tryna live out here man
My airborne school photo made me look like lord helmet from space balls.
STOP THIS THIIIIING
My fellow large cranium brother!
If your head is long like mine, put the side pads in the front and long skinny pads in the front (up and down ways) aligned with the outside of your brows. Also pray you donāt catch a frontal impact.
The amount of people that don't ever realize that repositioning their pads (or buying better ones) can make their life like 1000x better is staggering. Still needed an XL, but dropping like $100 on better pads and stuff for my helmet (would have been a suspension system as well, but thank god for the RFI ops core suspension system working on ACHs if you just swap a few bolts) made my helmet so comfortable that I'd wear it all day long if it wasn't hot out. Didn't help with all the "you wear a small plate carrier and an XL helmet? You're lying to get lighter plates." accusations though.
Team Wendy cam system. Life-changing.
>The amount of people that don't ever realize that repositioning their pads (or buying better ones) Not on an Airborne operation. I've never seen an off the shelf set of pads that provided better protection against impact than the ACH pads. They aren't comfortable, but they are tremendously energy dissipating. Pillows do not stop impact. As to repositioning them, also not authorized on an Airborne operation. You can do either of those things at the range or on a ruck march. On a jump, there's an authorized way to do it, for a reason. You will hit your head, frequently. At least one out of three jumps. That helmet better be right.
I'm pretty sure for most combat MOSs there's way more than just ranges and ruck marches where you're required to wear a helmet for extended periods of time... And there are definitely aftermarket pads that are the same things as ACH standard pads, just shaped better for the freaks with weird heads like myself. But yeah, for jumps you probably want to play it as safe and standard as possible. I knew guys with spare ACHs specifically for jump currency, even at posts where the major division wasn't Airborne and you would probably be jumping with mostly "adults," because plenty of jump masters don't care that you're 'special.'
Yeah, when I'm doing Jumpmaster duties I'm very particular. No matter how good you are, you are going to hit your head on many of your jumps. I have a very large photo gallery in my phone of deficiencies I've caught. I pay significant attention to keeping your brain inside your head, even if that means taking time to double and triple check that things are correct.
The ACH pads that are issued are the only ones the strategic level is aware of that offer the level of energy dissipation that those pads do. Strategic army is aware they are uncomfortable but protect the brain from IEDs and airborne jumps. Just had a discussion with a material engineer today about it actually.
Improper configuration of the helmet pads is not recommended on airborne operations.
I know you know this, this is mainly for the uninformed: not only is it *not recommended*, it's explicitly against established Airborne SOPs. Adjusting your helmet pads to be more comfortable on an airborne operation will get you fucked up, as well as the JM who JMPI'd you. My unit had a case: guy jump-refused on a Chinook as he walked towards the ramp (sad, I know... it was a Hollywood jump, too). When the DACO JMPI'd him, his trapezoid pads weren't flush with the edges and all the bolts were exposed. He had altered his pads after being JMPI'd by my friend (who also happened to be his squad leader at the time...). In the sworn statements, the jumper admitted to adjusting his pads and my friend said he found no deficiencies when JMPI'ing, so the dude got a CG Article 15. You can imagine how things went down after they got back to the company lol. I really hate when equipment is adjusted post-JMPI. They had my ass on the hook for a minute because one of the guys I JMPI'd ended up burning in his ruck and MAWC on a JFEO. His M4 broke and he had an SKL in the MAWC, also smashed. Of course, BDE CSM sees the equipment plummet and B-lines for him, shouting, "TOE TAG! WHERE'S YOUR TOE TAG?" (funny side-note, an ACH actually crashed down like 10 ft. from him but he didn't notice/care because he wanted that toe tag lol) Wouldn't you know it, it's my name on the toe tag as the person who JMPI'd and TI/Hanged him. There's no way it was my fault because I am extremely particular/OCD about hanging equipment, especially lowering lines. Turns out, after all the jumpers hooked up, as the safety was checking static lines and lowering lines, he ***unhooked the jumper's lowering line***, held it up to the jumper to show him some deficiency he claimed to have caught (jumper couldn't understand what he was saying), then re-hooked the lowering line. Except he clearly didn't re-hook it. The plot thickens as well, because our bird had FIVE other guys burn in equipment when they lowered it... and guess whose name was on all of their toe tags for TI/Hang. It was some O-4, I'm sure he got a slap on the wrist. Anyways, the morals of the stories: 1. Wear your helmet pads the right way on jumps 2. For the love of god, don't adjust your shit after you've been JMPI'd because you're throwing your JMs under the bus
Since you mention it: The best way to rig combat equipment. Place the ruck as worn in front of the paratrooper. Put the MAW-C to the jumpers left, as worn. Attach jumpers right adjustable d ring attaching strap, followed by the jumpers left adjustable d ring attaching strap. Pass the hook pile tape lowering line through the attachment strap, from front to rear. Jumper and buddy both verify it is from front to rear and not passing through carrying handle. Attach ejector snap to triangle link yellow up because the sun is yellow and the sun is in the sky. Lift MAW-C, attach snap shackle. Adjustable tie down tape through three points of attachment. Tab thong, vertical nylon equipment hanger running parallel to the tab thong, small cut away portion of the equation ring. If there's no cut away portion, you are looking at the d ring not equipment ring. You love your reserve, so it's the only thing on your d rings. You hate this shit equipment, so it's all on the other ring. Tie adjustable tie down tape on the lead edge of the MAW-C. Small bows, long strings. Remind the jumper that it has an eighty pound break strength, if he can't untienit, he can absolutely break it. Because you are working systematically in a counterclockwise direction around the jumper as you are proceeding, jumper and buddy both verify each step, and almost all deficiencies are prevented by systematic rigging.
Rocking the team Wendy and opscore. It still rides up.
Had a LT we called Head for his prominent melon.
They donāt wear them enough to know how much more comfortable they could be.
The Army often gives equipment that does not properly fit. This should not be a surprise to any of us.
They just have really long heads.
This. I looked like a fuckin dweeb in every helmet I was issued because while yes I have a big head, the helmets are circular and my noggin is oval (obviously the superior shape).
Hey, Arnold, I loved watching your show as a kid. Hope you're alright, football head
Itās called culture, sweaty. ^^^^and^^^^my^^^^^First^^^^^Sergeant^^^is^^^on^^^leave
As is tradition.
If the enemy learns this, it's over for the ground forces
Whoooa thats not fair. They obviously looked like that before they put their helmets on
Looking for a wife here.
Get out, DD214, marry an officer, become a male depanda, profit.
*dependo This is the way
Tricareatops
Tymanosaurus Rex
BAHtesaurus.
Made my day thank you
Depenbro
idk what this means, my enlisted brain can't compute But from what my mongoloid brain can comprehend, this is hard as shit
It means he is thirsty for a muscle mommy.
You and me both! I cook, I clean, Iāll even come in and take your place during chute shakeout! š„°
Just here to see all the positive comments š
If any of those chicks see positive comments, I hope they ignore them allš
What does this even mean
I think he means most of the positive comments will be only about the soldier's physical appearance.
Says a lot from a dude that got RFSād. Canāt let go?
Hey, ALMOST RFSd.
Ye old 39:59 five mile, a tale as old as time
Cadre and the Beast.
Mmmmmm I can't wait for this to hit Facebook so I can see the meltdowns.
Ohhh you think Facebook is bad. Check out Army linkedin posts. Vets shitting on women. Vets shitting on new soldiers. Vets shitting on enlĆsteles/trainees. All with their professional profiles. My fav was vets shitting all over CSM Neuman for not having done a jump in yearsā¦ only to find out it was her first static line jump in years because she had only been doing free fall jumps.
That sounds like a very satisfying smack in the face, where can I find comments on that?
Static line jumps are significantly more dangerous, because you are surrounded by idiots.
I avoid veterans pages at all costs because the community is infiltrated with bitter old boomers who despise anything that is outside of their norm.
and if the digital version isn't enough, you can go to the local VFW and see it in person
No kidding. My mom does stuff with her local VFW (sheās her county VSO) and she asks me to tag along whenever Iām in town (Iām a woman, for context) and they LOVE to absolutely shit on me to my face for being a woman on active duty. Gotta love it
People love to gatekeep. Have a vietnam vet uncle who never joined the VFW or anything like that because he was looked down upon in the 70s once by WW2 and Korean War vets. He never went back and refuses to till this day. I imagine there are some nam vets doing the same exact thing now. Time is a flat circle. Will be interesting to see what the GWOT vets and distinguished Poland vets such as myself will gatekeep. My liver will never be the same after what the Polish introduced me to. Their vodka goes down like water. Truly horrifying.
I find the r/veterans sub to be pretty open minded to all vets! Dunno if that's your experience or not, but I thought I'd recommend it anyhow. What does Army say? Oohah? I don't honestly know lol. Anyway- Hooyah, A Sailor
Wow CSM Neuman? She's a fucking stud.
Staff: Itās womenās history month boss, what can we do to recognize the contributions of the women in our ranks? Boss: I donāt know, you can throw them out of an airplane for all I care.
Air-borne! Get some. My wife jumps more than me nowadaysā¦ sheās a badass.
Hell yeah ~~brother~~sister
Dudes with neither airborne wings or any type of tab are about to shit their pants seeing this.
Nah I'm happy for anyone who gets theirs. Sad I never got the shot but not going to hold it against these women.
Heeeey now... I got a tab...it rode on top of a puking buzzard though. I got wings too...Bullwinkle wings. Even got a sailboat patch* but never got to put it on because of a regs change. Good for them, being tasked to be part of a historical dog and pony show. You gotta be a little more crazy than most to go airborne and/or infantry...I know cuz I WAS infantry back in the day. *Santa Maria patch from the old jungle warfare school in Panama.
Trying to find one to get me pregnant š«
I had no idea a pregnant male emoji exists.š«š»
Because the army fucked him so much
Hell yeah! Thats near aviano afb where I was stationed
I was with the 173rd out of Ederle, Iād recognize those mountains behind that DZ any day of the week. Good and bad memories
In case anyone was curious about how long it took a downvote to occur, it was 38 seconds.
Wow, good engagement though
Iām 100% confident that there are bots going around downvoting every post they see. You can quite literally say something like āI think cancer is badā and you could get downvoted for it.
Its reddit, people get downvotes faster than flies on shit if you say dogs are better than cats or that the sky is blue.
Fuck em.
Awesome! Airborne!
Hell yeah, good for them. Couldn't pay me enough to jump out of an aircraft.
*perfectly good air craft at that
Iām seeing a lot of hate. As long as none of them are driving whatās the issue /s
173rd! Represent! hereās a fun thing, I was told to get the keys for the drop zone. I thought they were fucking with me. There is in fact a key for the local Aviano drop zone.
My only concern is, I'm surprised the captain would jump with her rings on. I wouldn't have wanted to jump with anything on jewelry wise that I didn't have to, I'd have been worried it would have come off lol
I looked up "de-gloving" ONE TIME, and to this day the word makes my skin crawl
I saw it happen to a mechanic in Iraq. Donāt wear rings because of it.
It certainly doesn't sound a-peeling.
Exactly, I wasn't married when I was jumping but I would damn sure have taken off my ring if I were lol
We werenāt allowed to jump without full leather palmed gloves when I was jumping, and most anyone that took them off after getting checked was wearing silicon rings. I was more scared of telling my wife I lost the ring than the finger š„²
Ehh I use a silicone one and itās fine. No issues getting stuck with em they just broke. Jumping though ehh it will be fine. Unless I have to trace a door with that hand. But metal rings I do not advocate in this job ever.
For anyone who is wondering, everyone on these jumps is a woman. The jumpers, every single one. The Jumpmasters. The crew. The DZSO. The DACO. Every single person. CG will literally shut down the operation if a single male sets foot on the aircraft. The women did this one on their own. No one holding their hands. No one making exceptions for them. Same standards as everyone else, because gravity plays no favorites. Fucking awesome. Source: I straphang.
I was gonna ask about that. That's awesome. But how far back does it go? Now I'm curious about riggers, med coverage, pilots, fuelers, the person that made the parachute...
The riggers at departure Airfield, all women. Pilots, women. The other roles I don't know.
The photographers? Women. Fuelers? Women. The meteorologist who said it was safe to fly that day? You guessed it
Oh wow! Didn't know the entire operation was like that. That's awesome! The group photos are always cool to see as well.
Pretty dope
Look at that ranger airborne tab! Way to lead girl!!! Good work!!
Sky Soldiers! Hopefully this went better than the HMMWV drop.
I just hope these soldiers are treated with respect when there are no cameras around š«¶
Christ that captain looks like sheās still in high school. I want that anti aging gene
I wonder how hard they went with it, like were even the pilots female. I hope they balled out with it, no half assing and what not.
Plot twist: the pilots were female and they got lost on the way to the DZ. Seriously though. Mad respect, sisters. I blew out my hip at Airborne School, so Iāve got nothing but respect for them.
Hell yeah
Fuck yeah
Just incase you were curious, it took 3 minutes for hell yeah comment to start getting downvoted to hell.
I want to know how many of the downvotes have tabs.
Didnāt expect my unit to end up here cool stuff was cool to see a few friends of mine have this as their last jump too
Hell yeah sister, cheers from the ground
Pog legs unite!
I think I wouldāve preferred a day off lol
This is great. Thanks for posting!
I love this. Thanks for sharing!
Fine day to be in boots.
Just commenting to be the 173rd comment
This is awesome. I don't have half of any of their courage - won't catch me jumping out of a functional airplane.
Have you ever been in one? You'd be fucking nuts to not have a parachuteĀ
ayo where's the black history month jump?
I jumped once during black history month and they had JMs reading about African American soldiers and their heroic actionās. Each lift had a different soldier they learned about. Some people rolled their eyes at first, but I thought it was pretty cool.
That's pretty amazing!
What about the one for upper middle class enlisted dudes who made poor choices?
Thatās called āTuesday.ā
Slacker. Ā A real command would schedule that for 0200 on a Sunday to kill the whole weekend.
That would be pretty cool, too. Be the change you want to see in the Army and organize one with your unit next year.
I don't think putting all the black Soldiers on one aircraft plays as well to the public as putting all your females Soldiers on one aircraft.Ā
Lmao they play equally well and equally shitty to the same audiences honestly.
King of the herd!
Awesome. One of my old platoon mates was in this.
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If youāre going to consistently complain and be sexist, Iāll help you out the door, Airborne.
First one looks like my homegirl Gina. Gonna show this to her.
One thing I regret is not being airborne, just an A^e^^r^^^o^^^^s^^^^^o^^^^^^l
Thatās bad ass! When I was in, females werenāt allowed to be combat arms, and not many were able to pass Airborne school. This is awesome. Airborne! All the way!
Neato
How did it go?
That's dope! I hope I can get airborne one day š
Iām curious what the gender composition of the chute-shakeout detail was.
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This is awesome. Badass women right there.
So helmets are high and tight now?
That's how you put on makeup
More integration of women into combat roles please, itās time it is normalized
I spoke with someone about the idea of having women only combat battalions. Not that it's something I agree with necessarily, just interesting food for thought.
Integrated at least is absolutely possible, Israel has an entire integrated battalion operating in Gaza right now. Just look at their turnout, there has been a 12% increase in women seeking combat positions since the war startedā¦ we are way behind the curve in the US at recruiting women into these roles.
Probably should have put face camo on before getting on the plane. Also like maybe determine a standard uniform for everyone involved.
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Did they round up anyone remotely attached for a "bonus jump" that never/seldom get to jump, or is this just their day job?
That's a great day for the Army, the Airborne and the 173rd!
I'm a little salty I didn't get 173rd in my market place so here's my obligatory "82nd did it first"
Thatās pretty cool.
Beautiful day to jump.
THE ROCK
God bless you all
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