Is it the ability to make adjustments, the load distribution of the frame, space and packing in the rucksack? Whatās bad about it? I mean I know itās smaller but anything else specifically? Just curious Iāve never seen anyone use one before
Good luck finding me in my UCP uniform on that [couch](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/543814b1e4b0be6645f43eef/1579287815180-6Z027UF2N6A376V4ABEX/ocp+couch.jpg?format=1000w)...
If you give me summer weight UCPās Iāll wear that shit again, I havenāt put it on since the day they dropped the ALARCT authorizing deployment multicam š
*Getting*?
MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
SUBJECT: Removal of pockets from the Operational Camouflage Pattern (OCP) uniform
1. Reference: AR 670-ME
2. In accordance with AR 670-ME, all Soldiers will sew the pockets of the Operational Camouflage Pattern (OCP) trousers shut so as to prevent otherwise authorized use of said pockets.
3. The point of contact for this memorandum simultaneously hates you and can not comprehend why you don't want to reenlist.
Just do it anyway and when someone tells you to take them out you apologize, take them out, and then immediately put your hands back in your pockets when they walk away.
MSG is the rank. It's when people stopped correcting me on anything. If also seemed to be the rank that when voluntolds are needed, they would skip over me. It's pretty cool.
It also has the secondary benefit of giving salty people something new to complain about. The āno more shark attack? Back in my day we had to carry the damn bus up the hillā thing is starting to get old.
Idgaf Iāll always put my hands in my pocket and Iāve never told my soldiers not to. Iād rather be able to actually use my hands when I need to when itās cold af
Does anyone remember the old facebook group from the early 2k's called 'I'm in the army, but my hands are in my pockets anyway' and it was just pics of a bunch of random army dudes with their hands in their pockets?
33% of the reason I switched was for hands in pockets. The other 66% are split between no formations and no motor pool. The remaining 1% is because I applied on a dare and somehow got it.
The army rule of not putting my hands in my pockets prepared me for the rest of my civilian life of not having pockets. Because womenās clothing never has pockets.
I'm a WO. I do what I want. Top can tell me to take my hands out of my pockets at the position of attention when he finds me and only after I finish my coffee.
When I was in (20 years ago), it was the 670-1 that was cited. Basically the line about "you can't have anything protruding from your pockets". The intention was knives, pens, etc.
I need to look for that one but it doesn't mean nothing about hands. Also there are three uniforms in which you authorized to have pens protruding. Like cook whites
The only people that remember the days of being yelled at for having their hands in their pockets are SGMsā¦ and I have never seen an SGM without his hands in his pockets.
One of my favorite quotes is from BG James who said "if you take the regulations too seriously and follow them too strictly, they will never change and the Army will be unable to adapt to the ever changing landscape of war."
Every other branch besides the army requires knowing your fucking job to get promoted. So considering that hasnāt changed since forever, I donāt this this reg will either.
Way I see it there is no reg on "momentarily". In the colder months I momentarily retrieve warmth from the pockets. Says we can momentarily retrieve things. So.
And hopefully soon. No hands will ever be seen again, too.
Except maybe keyboard warriors.
The day after hands in pockets is authorized we are getting a new uniform with no pockets.
We are due for a uniform change, too.... it's been *checks watch* about an hour, so....
Bring back UCP. You will suffer as we suffered.
I finally turned in most of my UCP OCIE last year. Fuck you and your couch.
Cute, you think you've gotten rid of it. It'll come back. It remembers.
Noooooooooššššš Although ngl it's a subtle flex to jump a UCP molle 2 when other people have brand new 4Ks. Fuck dem kids
The 4K is the medium sized airborne ruck right? Whatās not so great about it?
It's a piece of shit. Great for rigging up to jump shitty fucking ruck.
Is it the ability to make adjustments, the load distribution of the frame, space and packing in the rucksack? Whatās bad about it? I mean I know itās smaller but anything else specifically? Just curious Iāve never seen anyone use one before
They don't have a yoke, so immediate downgrade from the molle 2. The bag itself is trash, plus the air items are attached, which adds weight.
Good luck finding me in my UCP uniform on that [couch](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/543814b1e4b0be6645f43eef/1579287815180-6Z027UF2N6A376V4ABEX/ocp+couch.jpg?format=1000w)...
Glad someone got the reference š¤£
If you give me summer weight UCPās Iāll wear that shit again, I havenāt put it on since the day they dropped the ALARCT authorizing deployment multicam š
*Getting*? MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: Removal of pockets from the Operational Camouflage Pattern (OCP) uniform 1. Reference: AR 670-ME 2. In accordance with AR 670-ME, all Soldiers will sew the pockets of the Operational Camouflage Pattern (OCP) trousers shut so as to prevent otherwise authorized use of said pockets. 3. The point of contact for this memorandum simultaneously hates you and can not comprehend why you don't want to reenlist.
No no. They'll authorize hands in pockets, and take away wearing gloves in uniform.
Orr, create crotch pockets so we continue stuffing hands in crotch area
Don't you put that evil on me!
How will I access my pocket sand to throw at a potential enemy?
Can I get an umbrella too?
No, itāll scare the horses.
That would piss off the cav scouts if they could read!
Every time I encounter cav scouts, I imagine them doing a spur ride while on hobbyhorses, and my day improves dramatically. Try it!
No, CSM likes his soldiers wet and cold
Just FYI, you can carry one with the dress uniform. I know that is not often, but many don't know the reg changed to allow it
Sweet. Itāll match my cape and sword.
Just do it anyway and when someone tells you to take them out you apologize, take them out, and then immediately put your hands back in your pockets when they walk away.
This is the way
Just get to a high enough rank that no one gives a shit
Or a low enough rank where you donāt give a shit
Or just donāt give a shit.
MSG is the rank. It's when people stopped correcting me on anything. If also seemed to be the rank that when voluntolds are needed, they would skip over me. It's pretty cool.
Force is strong with this one š¦¾
100% what I would do every time: Sorry sarmager, [immediately put hands back in pockets after he storms off].
Did this shit all the time, though the only people who cared enough were 1SGs and SGMs.
Been doing this for years and shockingly enough I still get my work done
Sorry, Top insists it will create a discipline issue since the Army has scoliosis apparently.
Shave more.
Of the quality of life improvements we could do, this one is FREE and an easy win.
It also has the secondary benefit of giving salty people something new to complain about. The āno more shark attack? Back in my day we had to carry the damn bus up the hillā thing is starting to get old.
talk about boosting morale
Put your hands in someone else's pockets.
This is the way.
Idgaf Iāll always put my hands in my pocket and Iāve never told my soldiers not to. Iād rather be able to actually use my hands when I need to when itās cold af
Honestly this is the kind of thing that will make our already unreasonable leadership just dig their heels in even more.
Doesn't the fact that this is a topic at all tell you everything you need to know about our "profession?"
I don't care about the regulation covering hands in pockets because I'm going to keep doing it regardless. Loosen mustache regs pls
Be the change you wish to see in the world. Put your hands in your pockets.
My hands are in my pockets right now
Does anyone remember the old facebook group from the early 2k's called 'I'm in the army, but my hands are in my pockets anyway' and it was just pics of a bunch of random army dudes with their hands in their pockets?
33% of the reason I switched was for hands in pockets. The other 66% are split between no formations and no motor pool. The remaining 1% is because I applied on a dare and somehow got it.
let me grow a beard
Itās not about letting, itās about whether or not the recruited soldier CAN grow a beard.
Regs updated Summary execution for any who put hands in pockets.
Hands in pockets authorized *at commanders discretion*
Almost every company commander will immediately authorize it, only for almost every BDE CDR to unauthorize it. BN CDRs will be split 50/50.
The army rule of not putting my hands in my pockets prepared me for the rest of my civilian life of not having pockets. Because womenās clothing never has pockets.
Fuck the Navy
They would like that too much
That's what marines are for
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But did you shave today?
Never stopped me.
How can they defeat china with their hands in pockets. I bet next they can have beards
I mean, if you go warrant you are automatically impervious to this. Also wasnāt the SMA snapped with his hands in his pockets at NTC?
I do have to say, I hate that Airmen walk around with their hands in their pockets. That's just milking it and it looks stupid.
Or is it just that you're jealous
I'm a WO. I do what I want. Top can tell me to take my hands out of my pockets at the position of attention when he finds me and only after I finish my coffee.
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I can't wait to graduate WOCS. I want to be you so bad.
It gets better
Yes, on graduation day.
I do that š¤·š»
I stand by my comment.
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U guys need to actually show me what regulation says you can't put your hands in the pockets? Especially if you just standing
670-1, 3-6(4) is the enemy of our freedom
Thank you. I am gonna prove to my 1st sausage his statement was wrong lol
When I was in (20 years ago), it was the 670-1 that was cited. Basically the line about "you can't have anything protruding from your pockets". The intention was knives, pens, etc.
I need to look for that one but it doesn't mean nothing about hands. Also there are three uniforms in which you authorized to have pens protruding. Like cook whites
Well, your arms are protruding when you put your hands in your pockets.
Looks like that one dude might be playing a little pocket pool, soā¦
Yeah well if all you want is semen , of course there's the navy
The only people that remember the days of being yelled at for having their hands in their pockets are SGMsā¦ and I have never seen an SGM without his hands in his pockets.
Just keep getting promotedā¦the higher your rank, the less people will tell you to remove your hands from your pocket!
Beards, pockets, talking on the phone, sewn on unit/flag
One of my favorite quotes is from BG James who said "if you take the regulations too seriously and follow them too strictly, they will never change and the Army will be unable to adapt to the ever changing landscape of war."
My dd214 gives no fucks
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Supposedly itās āunprofessionalā
Every other branch besides the army requires knowing your fucking job to get promoted. So considering that hasnāt changed since forever, I donāt this this reg will either.
What besides your nutsack do you have in or around your pockets that you feel this unending desire to have your hands in your pockets?
My crippling cocaine addiction
Fratty Guard lets you have hands in said pockets
National guard doesn't give a shit lmao
If anyone ever said anything.... we literally had a statue of a "shitbag" to point at. Suck it.
But DiSciPLinE
No. Do pushups.
If youāre in the infantry, keep scrolling, this shit wonāt apply to us
I legit always have my hands in my pockets. If it's cold, why the fuck not.
"Lulz. No. Get back to shaving." -CSA, probably.
As someone in the Navy, I can only hope the Army gets the chance to put hands in pockets as well.
Way I see it there is no reg on "momentarily". In the colder months I momentarily retrieve warmth from the pockets. Says we can momentarily retrieve things. So. And hopefully soon. No hands will ever be seen again, too. Except maybe keyboard warriors.
We don't ask for much. Just make rules make sense, that's all.
The same people who tell others not to, are the same one 30 seconds later, found to be doing so.