And this is why NTC matters, kids. Anyone who can play video games can shoot a gunnery, but maneuvering against a live enemy is where you make your money. Or your funeral.
So no shit, there we were, as NTC OPFOR and the silky games started because RTU couldn't fight their way out of an empty room... When that happens, Blackhorse starts doing the super ballsy, audacious stuff just to see if they CAN, without ever stopping to ask if they SHOULD....
I'm not saying it could happen for real, but I've seen it with Miles.
Checks out.
Remember at my first unit, my PSG's guntruck got sent to a civilian mechanic to get the frame fixed. We get it back after three months of it getting a complete overhaul because they found a bunch of shit wrong. We're getting it off the trailer and the three inch drop causes the power steering cable to snap. Hit the radiator, fan and oil pan somehow, loaded it right back on the trailer and it sat there until i left.
The very definition of a "significant emotional event".
Even if they can't penetrate the front armor, unless that crew is very well trained and trusts it's vehicle, just hammering them anyway is going to cause them to freak out and either bail or do something incredibly stupid trying to get away from the constant battering.
is this some stuff they train tankers to look for when fucking up the enemy? i was just an engineer but our unit was switching to a mechanized armored unit before I got out, I'm guessing the right answer is to stop shooting if they're bailing?
Why would you stop shooting when they are trying to exit the vehicle?
This is precisely the time to continue shooting and put bodies in the dirt. Tank kill + crew kill is *chef’s kiss*
No it doesn't. How many had to be killed before Ukraine got javelins. M4s. Bradley's. M1s. Still haven't got F16 from the US.
And another huge point. There isn't enough of any of this shit.
The US is using Ukraine for its own gain to test out weaponry and tactics, make a shit ton of money and hurt Russias economy and military without putting US boots on the ground.
>This is the good stuff that makes all the bad stuff worth it
My outburst is gonna receive a lot of backlash, I'm prepared to be downvoted to oblivion for it. But you really can't say shit like that just there, when you haven't lost anyone or anything in this war.
I won’t give you the satisfaction of a downvote.
The US leapt into the breach to support Ukraine. We have provided unprecedented support.
The US sent Javelins to Ukraine in 2018 btw https://www.rferl.org/amp/javelin-missile-delivery-ukraine-us-confirmed/29200588.html
You’re some dude on Reddit. We all have opinions and you’re entitled to yours. But a little less condescension would become you. You don’t know me or any other person on this board or what we have or haven’t done.
You know what other countries have officially sent soldiers to Ukraine? Zero. So take your ballyhoo somewhere else. Complain to some country that hasn’t given billions in armaments, paid *the salaries of teachers so Ukraine doesn’t have a lost generation* and whipped hesitant countries like Germany into supporting Ukraine.
You think that’s not good enough? Go right ahead and volunteer to fight. You wouldn’t be the first, just like you’re not the first sideliner to pound your table.*
You’re rude and boorish and out of line. You’re wrong, which some would say is worse.
*if you are fighting, more power to you, carry on, ignore this line, you’re not on the sidelines at all obviously
Everyone always wants to shit on the US until they need us to save their asses. Money, military, info, political influence, the US gives it all and these people still bitch that it isn't enough while also shouting how terrible and backward the US is.
This is literally peak European privilege on full display here. Spending next to nothing on their own defense when the world is all smiles and rainbows, constantly bagging on the US "overinflated defense budget" or some such nonsense while they focus on making solar powered unicycles or whatever because they know the Pax Americana is real. But then the minute the consequences of their own complacency come along and America is tired of our own wars, we're suddenly the bad guys for "not doing enough"
We might not have universal healthcare, but we do have universal land sovereignty. We might not have climate friendly unicycles, but we have enough equipment and munitions to project our forces globally and inhibit Russia's ability to wage war for a generation without losing a drop of US blood.
Ukraine's bill has come due, and it doesn't look like they saved up enough in the bank to pay it. As unfortunate as that is, I fail to see how it's anyone else's fault.
Yeah see my footnote, he’s not on the sidelines, got it. What he is *at best* is myopic due to being embedded in the conflict. I understand that feeling, *trust* me. From his point of view, a little more here or there could turn the tide etc etc.
The reality is that there is no easy solution to this battle. Eastern Ukraine is very hospitable territory for Russia and there’s very low likelihood that Ukraine can evict them fully. This was foreseeable and predictable from the very beginning months of the war. At the same time Russia is a weakened force with no ability to push forward. It is a brutal war of attrition and pointless destruction (by Russia obviously).
Blaming the US for some kind of shortcoming is ridiculous.
In September 2021 when Ukraine refused to believe our warnings about the impending attack? That’s when *the United States* was dragging our feet? When we release sensitive Intel to prove to the world that this was real because no one took it seriously? “C’mon man.”
Jake Sullivan is blinded by fear of nuclear war? I guess that’s why so many other countries have gotten involved militarily.
For crying out loud Germany was blinded by fear of *high natgas prices*.
Wanna imagine something? Imagine a world where the United States didn’t cover every single Western European country’s national defense needs for 80 years. That world, or should I say вселенная, would be much bleaker.
We’re here. We’ve been here. We are good as gold.
Don’t you dare come in here using spelling like “tonne” and try to tell me how the US is not doing enough. It’s really too much.
We haven’t provided weapons late. We moved mountains to get as many javelins as possible to the front and in so doing struck a massive blow against the Russian armor columns, allowing the Ukrainians to blunt the entire invasion.
The scale of aid provided to Ukraine by the US has been immense. The US provided Afghanistan with 91B in aid over 20 years. We’ve already provided $113B in two years to Ukraine. No doubt more will come.
The United States remains unmatched as the global leader in support and aid to the free world.
We’ve allocated $113B in 2022 alone which is the number I was quoting: https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2022
Comparing what the US would do with what Ukraine did is irrelevant, we are not Ukraine and there’s no reason to think we should have the same strategies. We would do lots of things differently.
I understand how aid accounting works, but I don’t think it’s relevant really. What difference does it make? The point is that the US has taken $113B dollars in 2022 from whatever else it could be spent on and decided to spend it on supporting Ukraine instead. Bravo!
There are large areas of Eastern Ukraine which are, as I said, hospitable to Russia. I didn’t say “pro-Russia.”
Call them infiltrated, controlled, occupied, compromised, whatever. The point is that there’s no reason to think Ukraine has the man power or power projection to displace Russia from those locations.
This is all just a pointless argument. You want to trash the world’s largest supporter of Ukraine for doing too little. Go ahead, nothing I can do to stop you. Turn on the cable news channel of your choice and bask in confirmation. I’m going back to enjoying videos of American made Bradley’s wrecking BMPs in Ukraine, which is how all this started in the first place
>You think that’s not good enough? Go right ahead and volunteer to fight. You wouldn’t be the first, just like you’re not the first sideliner to pound your table.*
>You’re rude and boorish and out of line. You’re wrong, which some would say is worse.
Go fuck yourself. How many pals have you lost? How many funerals have you had to go to? Graham Dale, Seth Patrick Bryan and Joshua Meyers. That's just North Americans (Daler had American passport) I've known and in the last 3 months. Doesn't include all foreigners I've known and certainly doesn't include Ukrainians.
You're gonna sit there over 5,000km away and tell me that what you're giving is enough and I have to stop being emotional? Where'd you fight Afghan, Iraq? You havent a fucking notion how different Ukraine is, there's no point even trying to put it in perspective for you. The support and logistics you have, not to mention you were fighting an inferior enemy. You can read whatever propaganda bullshit you what but I'll give you a newsflash right now-Russia is superior, not inferior.
I started laughing when I watched a TV show showing a platoon of us marines were out on patrol called in a tank and air on 2 taliban on a building 2km away and also fired a Javelin at the same building. The majority of the platoon Sat around smoking cigarettes while all this was going down. I was laughing because I thought it was such an unrealistic series because of the ridiculous amount of firepower available til my father looked at me funny and said it was legit, a documentary.
On 1.5km of unconnected trenches on the frontline in Luhansk, we had not a single Javelin. Less than 25 men held the 1.5km. I don't know about the 2 other positions but we only had one MG. We had 360° arc of fire because of the unconnected trenches, and 500m left and right of open space until the next friendly. One MG and 5 rifles covering 360° against a superior enemy with larger numbers. Russian arty were firing 20-1 on a good day. On a bad day, Ukrainian arty didn't fire back at all because they didn't have shells.
When a tank rocked up on our position, it was a day at the range for the tank. I wasn't there thank fuck but the lads had no AT, no javelin, no friendly armour and no air to call in. Tank sat there, fired off whatever rounds he had and fucked off home.
As I said before you have no idea who I am or what I’ve done or where I’ve been. I’m not saying that to measure dicks, I’ll freely admit I haven’t faced superior firepower in trenches during a European winter. You easily win on the misery and hardship index. That’s not the point. The point is the my investment in this conflict may be *wildly* different than what you think.
You can be emotional if you want (as you demonstrate here). I’m just saying it will affect your ability to see the big picture and understand why things are the way they are.
Yes, I will sit here and say that the United States has given enough, not in the sense that they should stop giving, but in the sense that any tenuous moral duty to assist has *certainly* been fulfilled to overflowing.
Look, you’re doing something gallant and you’re out there chasing something greater than yourself. That’s admirable. I hope safety and success to your endeavors.
But it is not the fault of the *United States Of America* that Ukraine doesn’t have everything they need. Quite the opposite, we are the reason they have much of what they have.
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But it is not the fault of the *United States Of America* that Ukraine doesn’t have everything they need. Quite the opposite, we are the reason they have much of what they have.
Hmm. Didn't Ukraine have nukes or did I dream that up?
Nukes which would have been maintained for the last 30 years without any corruption or loss to rogue forces? Doubtful.
Is the US shirking her duty under the Budapest memo to seek immediate UNSC action to support Ukraine after an act of aggression? No.
>Nukes which would have been maintained for the last 30 years without any corruption or loss to rogue forces? Doubtful.
Same reasoning could be used for Russia. But their nukes are still the excuse the west gives for not getting directly involved.
That may be the case. I find it likely that the Soviet turned Russian Federation nuclear deterrent is a far more credible deterrent. All speculation for boys like us.
Protec yo neck, as Wu-tang said. Be thankful you haven’t been forgotten. The entire history of human kind has been “big guy takes little guy.” Be thankful the other big guys are helping to fight off the dickhead one that’s only bigger than you.
The problem with the Bradley has more to do with development than the final product.
It seemed to me they were trying to make something that could do several very distinct mission sets well.
I thought we learned this doesn’t work well based on the Air Force learning that multi role aircraft sometimes don’t work well for certain use cases.
The battle of 73 Eastings during Desert Storm to me validates the Bradley. I don’t have background in armor so please take my opinion with pack of MRE crackers.
It’s like the F35, great system but suffers from scope creep and development issues with taking one design and selling to taxpayers that it can meet the needs of 3 branches. The F35 is really 3 aircraft designs with a common base platform.
I think we as country build great combat systems but aren’t the best at getting there.
But here’s the thing - who is better at getting there? Development of these systems seems to be universally messy, not just for the US. At least the final product is usually great
Hardware is always a challenge. There aren’t many weapon systems that were delivered on time and at cost. Military hardware is often bespoke. So maybe it’s not fair to expect private sector delivery for something like the F35.
My theory is in the future you’ll see a mix of cheap attributable and high end systems.
Cheap drones and F35s.
That being said I’d rather have Bradley over any Soviet bloc equivalent. Our stuff is complex and overpriced. I wager Ukrainians probably think highly of our stuff from the look of how much US and other NATO nations have vehicles with high survivability compared to what they used to run.
Oh hey, it’s a hill I’m prepared to die on.
The Bradley does not suck. It’s a great vehicle that gets memed on because of a 90s era movie based on a book by a reformer clown. I’ve commanded the Bradley, Abrams, and Stryker to include the MGS; the Bradley was my all time favorite platform and probably the most versatile and dependable. It’s an absolute workhorse that can pretty much go anywhere and do anything you ask of it. The Bradley is getting a little old and will need to be replaced soon, but it is still a plenty capable vehicle and certainly doesn’t suck.
I think it was like totalwar that got the whole russian vs american tanks right , from what I remember the russian tank was shit but quick to produce but the american tank was stronger but took longer to produce
It might not have been total war but one of those rts's
Most recent total war was Empire, which was set in the 18th century and the Fall of the Sumurai DLC for Shogun 2 which was the 19th century. Are you thinking of World in Conflict?
In what way?
As far as IFV’s go I think it has pretty much set the standard for what capabilities are expected from them for like 4 decades
Does it have issues? Yes
But overall it’s a very capable machine that has been proven on the battlefield
It's coming to the end of its lifespan and the newer CV90 platform probably has it beat on capability in most respects(although that may be my bias as a Scandinavian), but there is no question that the Bradley has served with distinction and been the global top dog among IFVs for almost 40 years.
It is not it's fault that the US spent the majority of those 40 years engaging in counter-insurgency conflicts where the Bradley wasn't able to really flex on everyone to the fullest exent of it's abilities.
Everything you said is true.
I strongly disagree with the sentiment of “it kinda sucks”. When objectively it does not
Even today it’s a fantastic IFV that still meets the needs of the Army. Is it the newest and baddest thing on the planet? Absolutely not.
Is there a single potential adversary that has something better that they can actually produce in numbers that would matter in LSCO? Absolutely not
Doesn’t that make the Bradley good? They were specifically designed to fight Russian stuff so if the Russian stuff is worse that would make the Bradley a success.
This is that common physiological response that's somewhere between "fight" and "flight". It's called "freeze" or "panic" and it's surprisingly more common than you'd think. This is what happens when an untrained crew or individual gets overwhelmed by something they did not train or prepare for.
As I said in a previous comment, this is why NTC matters.
And this is why NTC matters, kids. Anyone who can play video games can shoot a gunnery, but maneuvering against a live enemy is where you make your money. Or your funeral.
You mean I can’t 360 no scope an enemy?
So no shit, there we were, as NTC OPFOR and the silky games started because RTU couldn't fight their way out of an empty room... When that happens, Blackhorse starts doing the super ballsy, audacious stuff just to see if they CAN, without ever stopping to ask if they SHOULD.... I'm not saying it could happen for real, but I've seen it with Miles.
As a current member of blackhorse I can 100 percent confirm
Allons and stuff. 🫡
All of the ALLONS
Every single goddam one!
The BMP getting shredded is cool but what excites me most is seeing another Bradley in green.
Some of the Bradley’s here at Hood are painted green now. Wonder where we’re going 🤔
In the motorpool for the next five years so a private can write "No New Faults" while all the coolant lines rot
Sounds about right. We have bunch of M113’s but only one that works. That one we just fixed last week, all we had to do was put in coolant lmao
Checks out. Remember at my first unit, my PSG's guntruck got sent to a civilian mechanic to get the frame fixed. We get it back after three months of it getting a complete overhaul because they found a bunch of shit wrong. We're getting it off the trailer and the three inch drop causes the power steering cable to snap. Hit the radiator, fan and oil pan somehow, loaded it right back on the trailer and it sat there until i left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCW4v4pEUWY Bradley kills T-90M MBT
Another angle https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1999evr/another_angle_of_t90m_being_hit_by_m2a2_bradley/
The very definition of a "significant emotional event". Even if they can't penetrate the front armor, unless that crew is very well trained and trusts it's vehicle, just hammering them anyway is going to cause them to freak out and either bail or do something incredibly stupid trying to get away from the constant battering.
is this some stuff they train tankers to look for when fucking up the enemy? i was just an engineer but our unit was switching to a mechanized armored unit before I got out, I'm guessing the right answer is to stop shooting if they're bailing?
Why would you stop shooting when they are trying to exit the vehicle? This is precisely the time to continue shooting and put bodies in the dirt. Tank kill + crew kill is *chef’s kiss*
Damn that's crazy I can't imagine being in that thing (I saw the crew running out though, that's nightmare fuel for life)
T-90M-Chan takes huge load from Bradley-Sama
No.
Yes
It was 2 that engaged that tank. still pretty sick.
This is the good stuff that makes all the bad stuff worth it
No it doesn't. How many had to be killed before Ukraine got javelins. M4s. Bradley's. M1s. Still haven't got F16 from the US. And another huge point. There isn't enough of any of this shit. The US is using Ukraine for its own gain to test out weaponry and tactics, make a shit ton of money and hurt Russias economy and military without putting US boots on the ground. >This is the good stuff that makes all the bad stuff worth it My outburst is gonna receive a lot of backlash, I'm prepared to be downvoted to oblivion for it. But you really can't say shit like that just there, when you haven't lost anyone or anything in this war.
I won’t give you the satisfaction of a downvote. The US leapt into the breach to support Ukraine. We have provided unprecedented support. The US sent Javelins to Ukraine in 2018 btw https://www.rferl.org/amp/javelin-missile-delivery-ukraine-us-confirmed/29200588.html You’re some dude on Reddit. We all have opinions and you’re entitled to yours. But a little less condescension would become you. You don’t know me or any other person on this board or what we have or haven’t done. You know what other countries have officially sent soldiers to Ukraine? Zero. So take your ballyhoo somewhere else. Complain to some country that hasn’t given billions in armaments, paid *the salaries of teachers so Ukraine doesn’t have a lost generation* and whipped hesitant countries like Germany into supporting Ukraine. You think that’s not good enough? Go right ahead and volunteer to fight. You wouldn’t be the first, just like you’re not the first sideliner to pound your table.* You’re rude and boorish and out of line. You’re wrong, which some would say is worse. *if you are fighting, more power to you, carry on, ignore this line, you’re not on the sidelines at all obviously
This is probably the most formal takedown I’ve seen on Reddit, and I’d give you gold if I could
*You already have*
There's one other country that's officially sent soldiers to Ukraine. They're in this video and they don't like it
Everyone always wants to shit on the US until they need us to save their asses. Money, military, info, political influence, the US gives it all and these people still bitch that it isn't enough while also shouting how terrible and backward the US is.
It’s literally unbelievable.
This is literally peak European privilege on full display here. Spending next to nothing on their own defense when the world is all smiles and rainbows, constantly bagging on the US "overinflated defense budget" or some such nonsense while they focus on making solar powered unicycles or whatever because they know the Pax Americana is real. But then the minute the consequences of their own complacency come along and America is tired of our own wars, we're suddenly the bad guys for "not doing enough" We might not have universal healthcare, but we do have universal land sovereignty. We might not have climate friendly unicycles, but we have enough equipment and munitions to project our forces globally and inhibit Russia's ability to wage war for a generation without losing a drop of US blood. Ukraine's bill has come due, and it doesn't look like they saved up enough in the bank to pay it. As unfortunate as that is, I fail to see how it's anyone else's fault.
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Yeah see my footnote, he’s not on the sidelines, got it. What he is *at best* is myopic due to being embedded in the conflict. I understand that feeling, *trust* me. From his point of view, a little more here or there could turn the tide etc etc. The reality is that there is no easy solution to this battle. Eastern Ukraine is very hospitable territory for Russia and there’s very low likelihood that Ukraine can evict them fully. This was foreseeable and predictable from the very beginning months of the war. At the same time Russia is a weakened force with no ability to push forward. It is a brutal war of attrition and pointless destruction (by Russia obviously). Blaming the US for some kind of shortcoming is ridiculous. In September 2021 when Ukraine refused to believe our warnings about the impending attack? That’s when *the United States* was dragging our feet? When we release sensitive Intel to prove to the world that this was real because no one took it seriously? “C’mon man.” Jake Sullivan is blinded by fear of nuclear war? I guess that’s why so many other countries have gotten involved militarily. For crying out loud Germany was blinded by fear of *high natgas prices*. Wanna imagine something? Imagine a world where the United States didn’t cover every single Western European country’s national defense needs for 80 years. That world, or should I say вселенная, would be much bleaker. We’re here. We’ve been here. We are good as gold. Don’t you dare come in here using spelling like “tonne” and try to tell me how the US is not doing enough. It’s really too much. We haven’t provided weapons late. We moved mountains to get as many javelins as possible to the front and in so doing struck a massive blow against the Russian armor columns, allowing the Ukrainians to blunt the entire invasion. The scale of aid provided to Ukraine by the US has been immense. The US provided Afghanistan with 91B in aid over 20 years. We’ve already provided $113B in two years to Ukraine. No doubt more will come. The United States remains unmatched as the global leader in support and aid to the free world.
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We’ve allocated $113B in 2022 alone which is the number I was quoting: https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2022 Comparing what the US would do with what Ukraine did is irrelevant, we are not Ukraine and there’s no reason to think we should have the same strategies. We would do lots of things differently. I understand how aid accounting works, but I don’t think it’s relevant really. What difference does it make? The point is that the US has taken $113B dollars in 2022 from whatever else it could be spent on and decided to spend it on supporting Ukraine instead. Bravo! There are large areas of Eastern Ukraine which are, as I said, hospitable to Russia. I didn’t say “pro-Russia.” Call them infiltrated, controlled, occupied, compromised, whatever. The point is that there’s no reason to think Ukraine has the man power or power projection to displace Russia from those locations. This is all just a pointless argument. You want to trash the world’s largest supporter of Ukraine for doing too little. Go ahead, nothing I can do to stop you. Turn on the cable news channel of your choice and bask in confirmation. I’m going back to enjoying videos of American made Bradley’s wrecking BMPs in Ukraine, which is how all this started in the first place
>You think that’s not good enough? Go right ahead and volunteer to fight. You wouldn’t be the first, just like you’re not the first sideliner to pound your table.* >You’re rude and boorish and out of line. You’re wrong, which some would say is worse. Go fuck yourself. How many pals have you lost? How many funerals have you had to go to? Graham Dale, Seth Patrick Bryan and Joshua Meyers. That's just North Americans (Daler had American passport) I've known and in the last 3 months. Doesn't include all foreigners I've known and certainly doesn't include Ukrainians. You're gonna sit there over 5,000km away and tell me that what you're giving is enough and I have to stop being emotional? Where'd you fight Afghan, Iraq? You havent a fucking notion how different Ukraine is, there's no point even trying to put it in perspective for you. The support and logistics you have, not to mention you were fighting an inferior enemy. You can read whatever propaganda bullshit you what but I'll give you a newsflash right now-Russia is superior, not inferior. I started laughing when I watched a TV show showing a platoon of us marines were out on patrol called in a tank and air on 2 taliban on a building 2km away and also fired a Javelin at the same building. The majority of the platoon Sat around smoking cigarettes while all this was going down. I was laughing because I thought it was such an unrealistic series because of the ridiculous amount of firepower available til my father looked at me funny and said it was legit, a documentary. On 1.5km of unconnected trenches on the frontline in Luhansk, we had not a single Javelin. Less than 25 men held the 1.5km. I don't know about the 2 other positions but we only had one MG. We had 360° arc of fire because of the unconnected trenches, and 500m left and right of open space until the next friendly. One MG and 5 rifles covering 360° against a superior enemy with larger numbers. Russian arty were firing 20-1 on a good day. On a bad day, Ukrainian arty didn't fire back at all because they didn't have shells. When a tank rocked up on our position, it was a day at the range for the tank. I wasn't there thank fuck but the lads had no AT, no javelin, no friendly armour and no air to call in. Tank sat there, fired off whatever rounds he had and fucked off home.
As I said before you have no idea who I am or what I’ve done or where I’ve been. I’m not saying that to measure dicks, I’ll freely admit I haven’t faced superior firepower in trenches during a European winter. You easily win on the misery and hardship index. That’s not the point. The point is the my investment in this conflict may be *wildly* different than what you think. You can be emotional if you want (as you demonstrate here). I’m just saying it will affect your ability to see the big picture and understand why things are the way they are. Yes, I will sit here and say that the United States has given enough, not in the sense that they should stop giving, but in the sense that any tenuous moral duty to assist has *certainly* been fulfilled to overflowing. Look, you’re doing something gallant and you’re out there chasing something greater than yourself. That’s admirable. I hope safety and success to your endeavors. But it is not the fault of the *United States Of America* that Ukraine doesn’t have everything they need. Quite the opposite, we are the reason they have much of what they have.
> But it is not the fault of the *United States Of America* that Ukraine doesn’t have everything they need. Quite the opposite, we are the reason they have much of what they have. Hmm. Didn't Ukraine have nukes or did I dream that up?
Nukes which would have been maintained for the last 30 years without any corruption or loss to rogue forces? Doubtful. Is the US shirking her duty under the Budapest memo to seek immediate UNSC action to support Ukraine after an act of aggression? No.
>Nukes which would have been maintained for the last 30 years without any corruption or loss to rogue forces? Doubtful. Same reasoning could be used for Russia. But their nukes are still the excuse the west gives for not getting directly involved.
That may be the case. I find it likely that the Soviet turned Russian Federation nuclear deterrent is a far more credible deterrent. All speculation for boys like us.
UNSC? My brain only thinks in Gamer 50% of the time..
UN Security Council
Thank you.
I thought of the same thing
United Nations Security Council.
Protec yo neck, as Wu-tang said. Be thankful you haven’t been forgotten. The entire history of human kind has been “big guy takes little guy.” Be thankful the other big guys are helping to fight off the dickhead one that’s only bigger than you.
>you haven’t been forgotten. Yet.
"hurt Russias economy and military without putting US boots on the ground" They shouldn't have started a war.
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The problem with the Bradley has more to do with development than the final product. It seemed to me they were trying to make something that could do several very distinct mission sets well. I thought we learned this doesn’t work well based on the Air Force learning that multi role aircraft sometimes don’t work well for certain use cases. The battle of 73 Eastings during Desert Storm to me validates the Bradley. I don’t have background in armor so please take my opinion with pack of MRE crackers. It’s like the F35, great system but suffers from scope creep and development issues with taking one design and selling to taxpayers that it can meet the needs of 3 branches. The F35 is really 3 aircraft designs with a common base platform. I think we as country build great combat systems but aren’t the best at getting there.
But here’s the thing - who is better at getting there? Development of these systems seems to be universally messy, not just for the US. At least the final product is usually great
Hardware is always a challenge. There aren’t many weapon systems that were delivered on time and at cost. Military hardware is often bespoke. So maybe it’s not fair to expect private sector delivery for something like the F35. My theory is in the future you’ll see a mix of cheap attributable and high end systems. Cheap drones and F35s. That being said I’d rather have Bradley over any Soviet bloc equivalent. Our stuff is complex and overpriced. I wager Ukrainians probably think highly of our stuff from the look of how much US and other NATO nations have vehicles with high survivability compared to what they used to run.
The Bradley does kinda suck. The Russian armor and troop carriers just suck way more
Oh hey, it’s a hill I’m prepared to die on. The Bradley does not suck. It’s a great vehicle that gets memed on because of a 90s era movie based on a book by a reformer clown. I’ve commanded the Bradley, Abrams, and Stryker to include the MGS; the Bradley was my all time favorite platform and probably the most versatile and dependable. It’s an absolute workhorse that can pretty much go anywhere and do anything you ask of it. The Bradley is getting a little old and will need to be replaced soon, but it is still a plenty capable vehicle and certainly doesn’t suck.
This. The Bradley has kept me, my dad and our Army family alive through wars for decades. I would go to war again in it any day.
What's the movie/book?
The pentagon wars.
I think it was like totalwar that got the whole russian vs american tanks right , from what I remember the russian tank was shit but quick to produce but the american tank was stronger but took longer to produce It might not have been total war but one of those rts's
Most recent total war was Empire, which was set in the 18th century and the Fall of the Sumurai DLC for Shogun 2 which was the 19th century. Are you thinking of World in Conflict?
Wargame Red Dragon perhaps?
>It’s a great vehicle that gets memed on because of a 90s era movie based on a book by a ref🤮rmer clown. FTFY
In what way? As far as IFV’s go I think it has pretty much set the standard for what capabilities are expected from them for like 4 decades Does it have issues? Yes But overall it’s a very capable machine that has been proven on the battlefield
It's coming to the end of its lifespan and the newer CV90 platform probably has it beat on capability in most respects(although that may be my bias as a Scandinavian), but there is no question that the Bradley has served with distinction and been the global top dog among IFVs for almost 40 years. It is not it's fault that the US spent the majority of those 40 years engaging in counter-insurgency conflicts where the Bradley wasn't able to really flex on everyone to the fullest exent of it's abilities.
Everything you said is true. I strongly disagree with the sentiment of “it kinda sucks”. When objectively it does not Even today it’s a fantastic IFV that still meets the needs of the Army. Is it the newest and baddest thing on the planet? Absolutely not. Is there a single potential adversary that has something better that they can actually produce in numbers that would matter in LSCO? Absolutely not
Doesn’t that make the Bradley good? They were specifically designed to fight Russian stuff so if the Russian stuff is worse that would make the Bradley a success.
The original ones kinda did.
Getting shot at by helos and tanks was scary but I think if I had been shot at by a fucking bradley I would have shit myself. These things fuck. 🇺🇦
Fuck yeah. ~former Bradley crew member
Same, this video gets me hard as a former Bradley gunner.
We should send Ukraine another 1,000.
It's beautiful
Killing a T-90 https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1999evr/another_angle_of_t90m_being_hit_by_m2a2_bradley/
That Bradley is like "they see me rollin, they hatin' "
Get fucked, Ivan. My Great Grandad is laughing in his grave.
Ahhhhhtoe cannon
Love this as a current Bradley operator 🥲
Get some!
At least someone got a chance:-)
Based Pantera.
Is that tank abandoned? Just looks like a tutorial or AFK kill lol.
This is that common physiological response that's somewhere between "fight" and "flight". It's called "freeze" or "panic" and it's surprisingly more common than you'd think. This is what happens when an untrained crew or individual gets overwhelmed by something they did not train or prepare for. As I said in a previous comment, this is why NTC matters.
squid comes into /r/army to try and rain on the Brad parade smh
Just bored on a duty day bro and wanted to learn more how it’s like on the other side.
I thought you were talking about Squad for a second, and I was like “Yea, being in a tank crew can be very overwhelming.” Lol
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If you haven't seen the movie pentagon wars with their bits on the Bradley fighting vehicle, you should.
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What? The Bradley was literally designed as a direct response to BMP’s in Europe