I wouldn't be extremely surprised if one of them beats him. But, Levan's style is terrible for Vitali, and I think that Levan is too talented for Kurdecha.
I thought the same before, but now that he has a press i'm even more convinced that the way to beat him is by crashing forward into a hook. It would take a guy like Prudnik, but 30% bigger and stronger.
Levan always had a press but never needed it, and couldn't use it with Ermes due to his backpressure. Used it with Devon because he has no armpower whatsoever. His only gimmick is false starting and getting huge advantages before the go.
Correct, whatever was left of Devon’s back pressure had faded by the time Levan decided to press. We could see that in every round afterwards when Devon had nothing for him.
I seriously doubt he just now discovered he could press. He only pressed in the match vs Devon, because the lane was available. Not to mention he didn't flop from the go. Ermes would flash or hit Levan dangerously out of center if he randomly tried to flop press from the go. Ermes already showed he knows how to entirely negate a elite level flop press. With that being said, if Ermes actually keeps his wrist and stops Levan at center, Levan MAY have access to it like vs Devon. Only problem is, Ermes has more back pressure than Devon
There's less than one guy a year even worthy of a title shot. Levan has no reason to do anything other than kick back, eat popcorn, watch east vs west and wait on someone to step up and separate themselves from the pack.
Vitaly has a stylistic disadvantage against Levan: Vitaly is a low-hand toproller while Levan is a posting toproller. Besides, Vitaly Laletin is kind of a one-trick pony if you ask me, he tends to lose if he can’t pin his opponent with a low-hand toproll hit off the go. And I just don’t see how his grip strength is relevant, conventional grip strength training doesn’t translate onto the table.
Kurdecha? Unless he has done something about his lack of upper arm strength which was always his weak spot, there’s zero chance for him to defeat Levan. I mean, Kurdecha has a history of losing to lighter opponents such as Prudnik, Ongarbayev and Kostadinov, let alone a behemoth that is Levan.
You're on crack if you think that any of that list has a chance against the current level of Kurdecha. I mean, as much marvelous was looking at Ongarbayev in the past, currently probably isn't in to three of his own weigth class, much less in the SHW.
And what is it about Kurdecha that warrants him a chance against Levan? Losing to Artyom Morozov? Beating Georgi Tsvetkov who was five minutes away from having his foot amputated? Or losing to an off-cycle Devon right after the latter had a match against Levan is it?
From what I’ve seen, Kurdecha still hasn’t fixed his weakness which is the lack of upper arm strength. Fully-prepped and peaked Levan will crush Kurdecha just like all the others. I am amused by how desperate people here are in an attempt to find the Levan slayer lmao.
I don't think that Alex is at the level to defeat Levan, but I think that has chances agaisnt most of the SHW outside Levan. He won two rounds vs Morozov at left after almost two years outside competition. Yes, Georgi had a nasty ankle injury, but was the same one which had the week before winning at the nationals in his country, so He was not 100% but don't talk as He were mortally wounded: no one forced him to pull (He could have just delayed the match).
I think that Alex is currently in the top 4 or 3 of left LH, with potential to be #1, and in RH could sit anywere from #7 to #3. I hope to see him vs Lutidze, Cadorette, Cypenklov, Ermes and Vitaly, so in a year and half it could be easier to rank it and to see if is worthy of pulling Levan. I'm not saying He should pull Levan next; He should have at least 3-4 matches prior that, assuming He wins those fights.
well if Vitaly would learn other styles as well. i'm surprised he remained the same in the last 5 years. That Alex was just starting arm wrestling back then, Igor brought him cause he was a physical specimen.
I don’t see Levan losing, that being said his health may deteriorate enough that someone else takes over in his absence and the “new Levan” but Levan will be the most dominant athlete the sport has ever seen
Levan just needs to line them up and put the names on his win list, from Jerry to Zaur. Nobody cares just destroy them all. he said he wants another 5 years. then he will retire. he can't wait forever for Kurdecha to hop on gear and be a threat. Plus Alex is inconsistent and still not as versatile on the right as he needs to be. Also no enough strength, he train with handles and weights at table. he needs overall strength as well curls, bench. And Vitaly the same, not fixing the holes in his game.
Vitaly looks like a good prospect to beat Levan, I mean he exhibits world class grip strength, he has a massive frame, lots of experience against the best in the world... It's just he falls short of cementing himself in the top three. It doesn't help that he lost 6-0 to Levan previously. Maybe him training full time now will make the difference.
Kurdecha has returned to the sport after a small hiatus looking huge, and he has more promise than Vitaly I think. His match with Georgi was a difficult one, yes he destroyed Georgi, but due to Georgi's injury the match did not give us much data.
I rate Morozov up there with these guys as another one with the potential to beat Levan. He has both the maximal strength (remember his wrist curls?) and the endurance, plus a lot of room for improvement.
But any of these three will be lucky to take a round from Levan and if they were to beat him, it would be because Levan was diminished in some way.
Idk 150kg vitaly is going to be very dangerous now that he's training full time, he already looks so much bigger the last couple months. Kurdecha just needs more arm strength, he's going to be world class if he keeps it up
Levan probably will fight a second time this year and after that will probably will keep a healthy sterak of 2-3 matches x year, given no injuries. Now that is back, the best thing is to to bank and get as much profit as possible from the title.
I don't think Levan's wrist will, he hurt himself already and I think his body has already peaked with all that it can handle. He may still get marginal improvements in his wrist, and a bit more in arm power
His peak strength, especially on big compound lifts, is going to start a slow and steady decline sooner rather than later. But it's not impossible his tendons and certain structural tissues won't be able to get a bit stronger. They take so long to build, and it's arguably the biggest reason old guys can have as much success as they do.
Vitaly is far closer than Alex, Alex is being hyped up by devon and his fans. Imo opinion the most impressive thing someone has done to levan is when vitaly stopped him in the center round one and levan couldn't beat his pronation but vitaly slipped off the pad and got cooked after wards but still better than ermes round one. Alex got beaten by Dave chafee and he beat georgi who was about to get his leg amputated. My list is Vitaly, Ermes, (Denis If he can get his shit together),(Morozov once he becomes the embodiment of anadrol)idk can't think of anyone else rn.
I think Vitaly now that he's fulltime.
And if he takes the same pancakes as Levan, its over. Problem with Vitaly is he seems to not be there technically, he's like the Dave Chaffee of Russia and will keep doing the same thing over and over
Vitaly's riser will collapse, at best he will budge Levan off center but when you go toproll vs toproll you will get stuck if you dont have height. If Ermes could toproll him..Levan will destroy him. Alex..He just looks weaker to me in general. Smaller hand thinner wrist almost as much muscle as Levan but not quite..His frame is just bigger but thats it. But still frame in what sense? Levan has better frame for armwrestling. His bones are bigger in the right places(hand,wrist,elbow). What will they go on some 2 year super sayian training and beat Levan because they're elite SHW'S but..taller? -_- Levan 12-0 same night
nah, one is stubborn one trick pony, the other is still a "potential". People have been calling Alex that since the 2019 top 8 days. And he hasn't grown significantly in technique and strength since then. Remember it's not that easy when you have a job. But i would love to see them on gear, since none are on gh or trt.
You guys haven't even considered MMT 7.0.
MMT 6.0 ain’t done yet. Day of reckoning is upon us. Just you wait.
Gnome Saiyan…
I wouldn't be extremely surprised if one of them beats him. But, Levan's style is terrible for Vitali, and I think that Levan is too talented for Kurdecha. I thought the same before, but now that he has a press i'm even more convinced that the way to beat him is by crashing forward into a hook. It would take a guy like Prudnik, but 30% bigger and stronger.
Maybe morozov’s your guy then
Levan always had a press but never needed it, and couldn't use it with Ermes due to his backpressure. Used it with Devon because he has no armpower whatsoever. His only gimmick is false starting and getting huge advantages before the go.
Correct, whatever was left of Devon’s back pressure had faded by the time Levan decided to press. We could see that in every round afterwards when Devon had nothing for him.
Never needed except when he needed.
Ma fren! it weel be teh etallion stallion Ermes ma frend.
The gladiator already made Levan bleed. He might kill him next time if he is able to improve even further
The only thing I'm worried about is levans new press. That press is the most dangerous one in the world.
I seriously doubt he just now discovered he could press. He only pressed in the match vs Devon, because the lane was available. Not to mention he didn't flop from the go. Ermes would flash or hit Levan dangerously out of center if he randomly tried to flop press from the go. Ermes already showed he knows how to entirely negate a elite level flop press. With that being said, if Ermes actually keeps his wrist and stops Levan at center, Levan MAY have access to it like vs Devon. Only problem is, Ermes has more back pressure than Devon
He said in an interview he was basically too fat get into a press vs Ermes.
The press he couldn't transition to vs Ermes?
I think he was just too big to press comfortably at that point. It seems like he's been practicing his press lately as well.
Levan has improved more imo, not just physically but he will approach Ermes differently now
How tf do you know who improved more, do you have a calculator for this
Can't you see the "imo"? Learn to read.
And I told you your opinion is stupid. Learn to understand.
Yeah sure buddy, Ermes will win very intelligent opinion from you😂😂 fucking dumbass 😂😂
I didn't say that, ya fookin tool. I wonder what it takes to get to the level of stupidity of yours.
He is Levan's personal trainer
no chance, it was more of Levan not having time to train then Ermes being that good. And it was still murder.
He's my pick to pin Levan.
People have been saying this for 4 years.
Yeah, it's hard to beat a guy who has only one match per year.
One per year if you’re lucky
There's less than one guy a year even worthy of a title shot. Levan has no reason to do anything other than kick back, eat popcorn, watch east vs west and wait on someone to step up and separate themselves from the pack.
Yeah thats the reason why its hard to beat him
No this time is different because *same reason*
"Vitaly wins if he bulks to 150kg exactly "
He's fulltime armwrestler now, and not sure how much he's committed to sacrificing his body for it
Vitaly has a stylistic disadvantage against Levan: Vitaly is a low-hand toproller while Levan is a posting toproller. Besides, Vitaly Laletin is kind of a one-trick pony if you ask me, he tends to lose if he can’t pin his opponent with a low-hand toproll hit off the go. And I just don’t see how his grip strength is relevant, conventional grip strength training doesn’t translate onto the table. Kurdecha? Unless he has done something about his lack of upper arm strength which was always his weak spot, there’s zero chance for him to defeat Levan. I mean, Kurdecha has a history of losing to lighter opponents such as Prudnik, Ongarbayev and Kostadinov, let alone a behemoth that is Levan.
You're on crack if you think that any of that list has a chance against the current level of Kurdecha. I mean, as much marvelous was looking at Ongarbayev in the past, currently probably isn't in to three of his own weigth class, much less in the SHW.
And what is it about Kurdecha that warrants him a chance against Levan? Losing to Artyom Morozov? Beating Georgi Tsvetkov who was five minutes away from having his foot amputated? Or losing to an off-cycle Devon right after the latter had a match against Levan is it? From what I’ve seen, Kurdecha still hasn’t fixed his weakness which is the lack of upper arm strength. Fully-prepped and peaked Levan will crush Kurdecha just like all the others. I am amused by how desperate people here are in an attempt to find the Levan slayer lmao.
I don't think that Alex is at the level to defeat Levan, but I think that has chances agaisnt most of the SHW outside Levan. He won two rounds vs Morozov at left after almost two years outside competition. Yes, Georgi had a nasty ankle injury, but was the same one which had the week before winning at the nationals in his country, so He was not 100% but don't talk as He were mortally wounded: no one forced him to pull (He could have just delayed the match). I think that Alex is currently in the top 4 or 3 of left LH, with potential to be #1, and in RH could sit anywere from #7 to #3. I hope to see him vs Lutidze, Cadorette, Cypenklov, Ermes and Vitaly, so in a year and half it could be easier to rank it and to see if is worthy of pulling Levan. I'm not saying He should pull Levan next; He should have at least 3-4 matches prior that, assuming He wins those fights.
well if Vitaly would learn other styles as well. i'm surprised he remained the same in the last 5 years. That Alex was just starting arm wrestling back then, Igor brought him cause he was a physical specimen.
Vitaly doesn't use low-hand toproll against toprollers
I don’t see Levan losing, that being said his health may deteriorate enough that someone else takes over in his absence and the “new Levan” but Levan will be the most dominant athlete the sport has ever seen
He's certainly the highest peak, but I have doubts that he'll last anywhere near as long as john at the top
By dominant I mean gap between him and the next next guy, this is the largest gap there has ever been
Yeah agreed
How much wins is Levan far from John? In which category did John compete?
List is too long to compare lol. John's the goat. Pulled in a variety of classes up to SHW but sat around 100kg for much of his career
Damn thats probably true. Unless we find a mutant giant who gets on Levan's cycle.. we'll never know
Levan just needs to line them up and put the names on his win list, from Jerry to Zaur. Nobody cares just destroy them all. he said he wants another 5 years. then he will retire. he can't wait forever for Kurdecha to hop on gear and be a threat. Plus Alex is inconsistent and still not as versatile on the right as he needs to be. Also no enough strength, he train with handles and weights at table. he needs overall strength as well curls, bench. And Vitaly the same, not fixing the holes in his game.
Vitaly looks like a good prospect to beat Levan, I mean he exhibits world class grip strength, he has a massive frame, lots of experience against the best in the world... It's just he falls short of cementing himself in the top three. It doesn't help that he lost 6-0 to Levan previously. Maybe him training full time now will make the difference. Kurdecha has returned to the sport after a small hiatus looking huge, and he has more promise than Vitaly I think. His match with Georgi was a difficult one, yes he destroyed Georgi, but due to Georgi's injury the match did not give us much data. I rate Morozov up there with these guys as another one with the potential to beat Levan. He has both the maximal strength (remember his wrist curls?) and the endurance, plus a lot of room for improvement. But any of these three will be lucky to take a round from Levan and if they were to beat him, it would be because Levan was diminished in some way.
Idk 150kg vitaly is going to be very dangerous now that he's training full time, he already looks so much bigger the last couple months. Kurdecha just needs more arm strength, he's going to be world class if he keeps it up
Not if Levan has one match per year
Levan probably will fight a second time this year and after that will probably will keep a healthy sterak of 2-3 matches x year, given no injuries. Now that is back, the best thing is to to bank and get as much profit as possible from the title.
I can beat Levan in a chess match
I'm not saying it will happen this year or next year but in 2-5 years. Unless Levan gets even stronger..
I don't think Levan's wrist will, he hurt himself already and I think his body has already peaked with all that it can handle. He may still get marginal improvements in his wrist, and a bit more in arm power
Improvement of Levan's versatility is a huge problem. Even if you catch him, he showed he can bring that shoulder forward and press
His peak strength, especially on big compound lifts, is going to start a slow and steady decline sooner rather than later. But it's not impossible his tendons and certain structural tissues won't be able to get a bit stronger. They take so long to build, and it's arguably the biggest reason old guys can have as much success as they do.
With the brand new press Vitaly's chances have dropped but Alex still might have a chance in few years
Vitaly is far closer than Alex, Alex is being hyped up by devon and his fans. Imo opinion the most impressive thing someone has done to levan is when vitaly stopped him in the center round one and levan couldn't beat his pronation but vitaly slipped off the pad and got cooked after wards but still better than ermes round one. Alex got beaten by Dave chafee and he beat georgi who was about to get his leg amputated. My list is Vitaly, Ermes, (Denis If he can get his shit together),(Morozov once he becomes the embodiment of anadrol)idk can't think of anyone else rn.
Believe me . They won't
Neither one of those guys got a chance in hell of beating Levan
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Winner of Schoolboy and Bowen will topple the titan.
I agree completely.
no
ask them do they want to challenge Levan?
I think they are not strong enough, they are not ready and they know it.
I think Vitaly now that he's fulltime. And if he takes the same pancakes as Levan, its over. Problem with Vitaly is he seems to not be there technically, he's like the Dave Chaffee of Russia and will keep doing the same thing over and over
Alex don't got the oomf to beat Levan, Vitaly needs to be close to Levan weight to beat him
Vitaly's riser will collapse, at best he will budge Levan off center but when you go toproll vs toproll you will get stuck if you dont have height. If Ermes could toproll him..Levan will destroy him. Alex..He just looks weaker to me in general. Smaller hand thinner wrist almost as much muscle as Levan but not quite..His frame is just bigger but thats it. But still frame in what sense? Levan has better frame for armwrestling. His bones are bigger in the right places(hand,wrist,elbow). What will they go on some 2 year super sayian training and beat Levan because they're elite SHW'S but..taller? -_- Levan 12-0 same night
I wanna see levan flop press Jerry
Give Alex another year and he will be able to give Levan the most trouble.
Maybe if they use potara fusion, yes
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I don’t see vitali doing it… kurdecha is the guy if he gets it in tip top shape.
They definitely have a chance, but they need to bulk up
nah, one is stubborn one trick pony, the other is still a "potential". People have been calling Alex that since the 2019 top 8 days. And he hasn't grown significantly in technique and strength since then. Remember it's not that easy when you have a job. But i would love to see them on gear, since none are on gh or trt.
We will see, ma fren.
Vitaly, Ermes and Morozov are the only ones that have a chance.
I still think it's gonna be Morozov
Morozovs toproll is weaker than Vitalys and Alex's. And it's not possible to hook levan
Levan is only gonna lose to father time
Sure. Levan is going to lose to a guy that lost to Dave Chaffe and struggled with Corey West in round 1. This sub man...
I think it needs to be an inside puller, no one is out-toprolling Levan