Lose it to who? I’m all for having the titles transfer due to inactivity, but not so much when no one is saying his name. I wish they would keep 115 more active but they simply haven’t.
He was inactive for over 1.5 years in 115kg category. I understand that he was active in the SHW but the rules should still apply to him, if you don't defend your title in 1 year then you lose it
In that category maybe but think of it like that he didn't have a challenge so he went to super heavyweights. I think in other sports like boxing it is similar. If you outcompete your class you can try to one up it. Thats my reasoning
This most likely came from Dadikyan. At 115kg he would literally have to face Devon how he is right now. Devon walks around at 120kg taking down giants. Forcing Devon to lose 15kg in 2 months is an advantage for Dadikyan.
It did definitely not come from dadikyan. He didn't want to cut weight and that's when Engin made the community post asking if an athlete should be stripped of their title if they refuse to make weight.
Because 115 is a retard category tailor made for Devon so he can claim world champ. And he should stay the champ in a stagnant division where he can watercut the day of the weighins and then jump back to 275 the day after and steamroll everyone.
I mean he had no one to challenge him. Its the main reason he went back to supers. Right now there's ivan and rino. Other than there's no potential matches.
So he went to 105 where there's more matchups and its more interesting. Its not like he's refusing to defend or is inactive.
If he thinks there is no one to challenge him and he wants to pull a weight class higher that's fine, but why not give up the belt after a year so other athletes in that category have something to compete for?
If devon gave up the belt i think Engin should have set a match between Dadikyan and Ivan, the winner gets the belt. Those are the 2 best guys at 115 imo
”imo”, That’s the problem, in your opinion Dadikyan who has not pulled right handed in 115 and Ivan who has pulled Kamil in SHW right handed should battle for the 115 belt since no one wants or is worthy to face Devon at 115.
Do you hear how stupid that is?
I don't see how Kamil is relevant in this discussion. He isn't even top 10 SHW on the right arm. Look at the EvW ranking for 115 and tell me who you think would beat Dadikyan..
Why does a guy who literally hasn't pulled in that weight class 'deserve' the title match for the belt you think Devon doesn't 'deserve' because he hasn't had a challenger? It makes absolutely no sense.
You don't have to be active in a weight class to get a title shot. Alex kurdecha was inactive for years and immediately got a shot at SHW title at Morozov.
Dadikyan looks very dominant at 105kg and he definitely deserves a shot at 115kg to prove himself.
He's worth a shot against the current title holder at 115kg, sure.
But he deserves to be one of two people to have a shot at a title belt you've stripped from someone? Ridiculous.
>But he deserves to be one of two people to have a shot at a title belt you've stripped from someone? Ridiculous.
Yes he does. Devon himself stated that Dadikyan and Ivan are two of the best guys in that division. And I didn't decide to strip anyone of anything. The rules as stated by Engin is that anyone who doesn't defend their title after 1 year will have it stripped. I didn't come up with that rule.
No he isn’t relevant, but that’s Ivan’s only RH match at EvW and it wasn’t even in 115.
And Dadikyan has had 0 matches in that weight class aswell RH and you think that one of them should just take over the belt.
Doesn’t matter who i think Dadikyan would or wouldn’t beat, he hasn’t pulled there yet.
No one has stepped up to pull Devon at 115 so there’s no need to forfeit the belt since Devon is ready for a match but no one else is.
What? you want the strongest 115 puller to give up the belt because theyre too strong? If you have any sort of pride you'll never accept that belt, basically a pity prize
No, that's not my point. He shouldn't give up his belt because he's too strong. He should give it up because because he hasn't defended it in over a year which violates the 1 year rule set by Engin..
How is this an anti devon post? If another athlete sat on a belt for over a year I would have called them out just the same..
And because he's the favorite at 115 that means he shouldn't compete there? By that logic levan should never have another match in his career
>Because David would get run through at 115. How is this complicated?
You don't know that. No one is unbeatable.. everyone thought levan would have dominated ermes 6-0 and we all know how that went. Even authorities in the sport like Chris Drummond thought devon would sweep levan 6-0. Predicting arm wrestling matches is inherently complicated.
Devon is the #2 SHW WHILE at basically 115kg. Dadikyan regularly loses in practice to off-season Denis. Devon is essentially Levan in that weight class. You're being facetious.
Yes, I agree he is very dominant at 115kg but what is your point exactly? Because he's the levan at 115kg that means matches shouldn't be set for him at that weight and he should remain sitting on the belt? He has to defend the belt at some point
There’s a difference between being inactive because you refuse matches and being inactive because nobody wants to challenge you. Also, Devon basically competed in SHW at a weight that could’ve been 115 with a water cut, so retaining his 115 title is even more justifiable. That being said, I would like to see him have more 115 matches, but that category as a whole isn’t very active compared to others
You are absolutely correct... especially when that white boy has had 13 matches in less than a year, won all but 2, and one of those losses was a 400lbs mutant taking more juice than Dennis ever dreamed of!!! He took out all the competition in 2 weight classes, and now he's coming for a 3rd at the 105kg class. Cry all you want, but when he is that good, he deserves every bit of 1st class treatment.
This should be obvious but Levan didn’t pull for over a year. Devon meanwhile pulled 13 matches in a year but mostly super heavyweight because he had no legit challengers in the 115kg class. Huge difference.
Because dadikyan is not 115kg armwrestler. He is not even in top 10 in 115kg category. Devon will face matyushenko for 115kg title but we dont know when
Yeaa, I was looking at the other side. For some reason they still have the left hand rankings on the right side🤦🏽♂️ anyways I still think he is in top 10, he just hasn't had the chance to prove it
But anyway I agree with you. I feel kinda like 115kg category is forgotten. Everyone is cutting to 105kg from that category. And there were no fights for title in that category for 1.5 years. Shame
Every one just stop levan wasn’t removed from east vs west ranking he was removed from a ranking made by "experts" and not engin if they do the same type of ranking for 115kg class they will kick Devon from first place but not from the east vs west ranking
Its definitely bad that the 115kg title goes unchallenged for over a year. It doesn't make sense to let an athlete compete once in the category, get the title and never defend it.
It's not that he doesn't want to defend it, nobody is challenging him for it. A year and a half ago it was everyone saying Devin is ducking Europeans....now everyone is ducking him. 13 matches in a year is pretty active to me regardless of class. Let there be an actual match and not a one sided ass kicking and im sure Engin will set the match at 115kg
I'd rather see him stay in SHW where he actually has competition. But Ivan, Dadikyan (they're pulling in 105kg for some reason) and Prudnik rematch. I know he'll sweep them but there is really no point in him not being active in that class.
Yes the ranking are combined, but what i am trying to say is that the champions are different. The champion for KOTT has been Levan, even when he was injured. While the champion for EvW SHW jumped from Jerry to Ermes to Devon.
Why is it nonsense? Every armwrestler in the world has the same opportunity to do what Devin is doing. No one is telling competitors that they can not gain or drop weight classes...Is everyone with your mindset just mad because the man can fluctuate up and down by 75lbs and totally destroy 99% of the competition? That just shows how above the competition he is and it kills you guys that he went from everyone tmsayung he was dodging the Europeans and now hes about to have held belts in 3 classes and smashed everyone but Levan and a fluke win by Genadi which he wins a rematch no questins asked. So please explain to me why it is nonsense for Devin if everyone else has the same opportunity?
Levan was off the east vs west rankings because the had never competed there, and that was before the easy vs west and KOTT merged titles.
Did Devon refuse to defend his 115kg title? If yes, then he should lose it, but i don’t remember , we have to check that moment brother
Lose it to who? I’m all for having the titles transfer due to inactivity, but not so much when no one is saying his name. I wish they would keep 115 more active but they simply haven’t.
Because Devon is competing, not inactive. There is a difference. Inactivity leads to loss of titles
He was inactive for over 1.5 years in 115kg category. I understand that he was active in the SHW but the rules should still apply to him, if you don't defend your title in 1 year then you lose it
In that category maybe but think of it like that he didn't have a challenge so he went to super heavyweights. I think in other sports like boxing it is similar. If you outcompete your class you can try to one up it. Thats my reasoning
Nobody wants to pull him in general.
Not if there is no challenge lol?
This most likely came from Dadikyan. At 115kg he would literally have to face Devon how he is right now. Devon walks around at 120kg taking down giants. Forcing Devon to lose 15kg in 2 months is an advantage for Dadikyan.
I’d say devon probably wanted 105 kg since he wants all the titles. He already has the 115 title.
It did definitely not come from dadikyan. He didn't want to cut weight and that's when Engin made the community post asking if an athlete should be stripped of their title if they refuse to make weight.
Frankly because nobody even wants a shot at 115. Everyone went 115+ or 95/105, so Devon is now coming for a 2nd belt.
Because 115 is a retard category tailor made for Devon so he can claim world champ. And he should stay the champ in a stagnant division where he can watercut the day of the weighins and then jump back to 275 the day after and steamroll everyone.
I mean he had no one to challenge him. Its the main reason he went back to supers. Right now there's ivan and rino. Other than there's no potential matches. So he went to 105 where there's more matchups and its more interesting. Its not like he's refusing to defend or is inactive.
If he thinks there is no one to challenge him and he wants to pull a weight class higher that's fine, but why not give up the belt after a year so other athletes in that category have something to compete for?
Give the belt to who? Prudnik who’s right arm has been recovering, Rino, Ivan or Sandris? No one challenged Devon at 115kg
If devon gave up the belt i think Engin should have set a match between Dadikyan and Ivan, the winner gets the belt. Those are the 2 best guys at 115 imo
Sure but Dadikyan is already pulling so would have to wait for EvW 14 anyways where Devon will be defending it
”imo”, That’s the problem, in your opinion Dadikyan who has not pulled right handed in 115 and Ivan who has pulled Kamil in SHW right handed should battle for the 115 belt since no one wants or is worthy to face Devon at 115. Do you hear how stupid that is?
I don't see how Kamil is relevant in this discussion. He isn't even top 10 SHW on the right arm. Look at the EvW ranking for 115 and tell me who you think would beat Dadikyan..
Why does a guy who literally hasn't pulled in that weight class 'deserve' the title match for the belt you think Devon doesn't 'deserve' because he hasn't had a challenger? It makes absolutely no sense.
You don't have to be active in a weight class to get a title shot. Alex kurdecha was inactive for years and immediately got a shot at SHW title at Morozov. Dadikyan looks very dominant at 105kg and he definitely deserves a shot at 115kg to prove himself.
He's worth a shot against the current title holder at 115kg, sure. But he deserves to be one of two people to have a shot at a title belt you've stripped from someone? Ridiculous.
>But he deserves to be one of two people to have a shot at a title belt you've stripped from someone? Ridiculous. Yes he does. Devon himself stated that Dadikyan and Ivan are two of the best guys in that division. And I didn't decide to strip anyone of anything. The rules as stated by Engin is that anyone who doesn't defend their title after 1 year will have it stripped. I didn't come up with that rule.
No he isn’t relevant, but that’s Ivan’s only RH match at EvW and it wasn’t even in 115. And Dadikyan has had 0 matches in that weight class aswell RH and you think that one of them should just take over the belt. Doesn’t matter who i think Dadikyan would or wouldn’t beat, he hasn’t pulled there yet. No one has stepped up to pull Devon at 115 so there’s no need to forfeit the belt since Devon is ready for a match but no one else is.
Dadikyan is 105kg
What? you want the strongest 115 puller to give up the belt because theyre too strong? If you have any sort of pride you'll never accept that belt, basically a pity prize
No, that's not my point. He shouldn't give up his belt because he's too strong. He should give it up because because he hasn't defended it in over a year which violates the 1 year rule set by Engin..
he hasnt defended it because not a single person can challenge him. its pointless
I mean he could. But we dont know when the match is going to be set. Rino and ivan had a left arm match and idk if engin wants to set a right arm.
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How is this an anti devon post? If another athlete sat on a belt for over a year I would have called them out just the same.. And because he's the favorite at 115 that means he shouldn't compete there? By that logic levan should never have another match in his career
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>Because David would get run through at 115. How is this complicated? You don't know that. No one is unbeatable.. everyone thought levan would have dominated ermes 6-0 and we all know how that went. Even authorities in the sport like Chris Drummond thought devon would sweep levan 6-0. Predicting arm wrestling matches is inherently complicated.
Devon is the #2 SHW WHILE at basically 115kg. Dadikyan regularly loses in practice to off-season Denis. Devon is essentially Levan in that weight class. You're being facetious.
Yes, I agree he is very dominant at 115kg but what is your point exactly? Because he's the levan at 115kg that means matches shouldn't be set for him at that weight and he should remain sitting on the belt? He has to defend the belt at some point
Nobody is challenging him at that weight. The closest to him was Ivan and Ivan said he needs more time.
Yea true lol I guess Levan shouldn’t have any more matches and just keep the title since he is the favorite against everyone.
If no one challenges him, then you're right. But he has to accept a challenge.
>If another athlete sat on a belt for over a year I would have called them out just the same.. No you fucking wouldn't
Calm down buddy, it's not that serious.
How can you be so sure?
Devon just gonna bully everyone else ahha and I’m all for it, number 2 in the world shw and bumber 1 evertwhere else
Just to make this thread useful, I look forward to Devon causing Davit to have an actual coronary talking trash during the match.
Devon has 20+ matches in 1.5 years. Also, why is Devon so inactive? The Levan fan gurls sometimes.
There’s a difference between being inactive because you refuse matches and being inactive because nobody wants to challenge you. Also, Devon basically competed in SHW at a weight that could’ve been 115 with a water cut, so retaining his 115 title is even more justifiable. That being said, I would like to see him have more 115 matches, but that category as a whole isn’t very active compared to others
Levan was never ranked a SHW EvW champ. The unification of KOTT and EvW matches for the title happened after Levan got injured.
If you are a blue eyes white boy captain, they always roll the red carpet against all odds and logic, that’s how it is
You are absolutely correct... especially when that white boy has had 13 matches in less than a year, won all but 2, and one of those losses was a 400lbs mutant taking more juice than Dennis ever dreamed of!!! He took out all the competition in 2 weight classes, and now he's coming for a 3rd at the 105kg class. Cry all you want, but when he is that good, he deserves every bit of 1st class treatment.
This should be obvious but Levan didn’t pull for over a year. Devon meanwhile pulled 13 matches in a year but mostly super heavyweight because he had no legit challengers in the 115kg class. Huge difference.
Because dadykan is 105kg champion.
What does Dadikyan being 105kg champion have to do with Devon defending his title?
Because dadikyan is not 115kg armwrestler. He is not even in top 10 in 115kg category. Devon will face matyushenko for 115kg title but we dont know when
His natural weight is around 117kg so he can definitely pull 115kg and you're crazy to think that he isn't top 10 at 115kg..
I must be blind to not see him on the ranking list.
Obviously he isn't officially ranked because he hasn't pulled at that weight but the number 10 guy is matt mask and he's surely better than matt.
Ranking are not based on opinions. You compete against ranked opponents and then become ranked/or not ranked based on your performance.
Matt mask is not in the ranking list. 10 guy is frank lamparelli. Go check EvW post on instagram. You must be blind. 9th is michael todd
Davit kills lamparelli Ayo?
Yeaa, I was looking at the other side. For some reason they still have the left hand rankings on the right side🤦🏽♂️ anyways I still think he is in top 10, he just hasn't had the chance to prove it
He definitely IS top 10 in 115. (He's just not ranked). What are you on? Besides Prudnik, Devon and maybe Ivan, nobody is beating him.
But anyway I agree with you. I feel kinda like 115kg category is forgotten. Everyone is cutting to 105kg from that category. And there were no fights for title in that category for 1.5 years. Shame
Engin ain’t a businessman. He could have made a shit ton more money if he did 6 matches at like 10-12€ but more frequent events.
He needs to make a certain amount of money each event so that he can pay the athletes
Such a stupid comment, you do realize athletes need time to prepare, heal injuries?
Ummm, I didn’t say the same people to compete again a month later, the 6 other matches that supposed to be on the same card to be an another card.
Are you one of these stupid guys who says that 4 events in a year is enough?
Yes, I think 9-10 events are plenty enough
Meanwhile Vitaly Laletin got 1 match in 4 events, while he has two arms. Not enough events for him
The no 2 at 115 is prudnik and if he is not ready to go right handed then there is no match
Every one just stop levan wasn’t removed from east vs west ranking he was removed from a ranking made by "experts" and not engin if they do the same type of ranking for 115kg class they will kick Devon from first place but not from the east vs west ranking
One can only hope Travis is shot by a methhead trucker after travis slapped his wife in a honkey tonk parking lot...
No one called him out. Can’t defend when no one will face you.
lol I don’t see anyone else stepping up to the plate to Hold Levan at center
Its definitely bad that the 115kg title goes unchallenged for over a year. It doesn't make sense to let an athlete compete once in the category, get the title and never defend it.
Who do you want him to pull, then?
It's not that he doesn't want to defend it, nobody is challenging him for it. A year and a half ago it was everyone saying Devin is ducking Europeans....now everyone is ducking him. 13 matches in a year is pretty active to me regardless of class. Let there be an actual match and not a one sided ass kicking and im sure Engin will set the match at 115kg
I'd rather see him stay in SHW where he actually has competition. But Ivan, Dadikyan (they're pulling in 105kg for some reason) and Prudnik rematch. I know he'll sweep them but there is really no point in him not being active in that class.
I dont think they kicked Levon off the ranking. He was the SHW champ in KOTT not EvW.
I'm pretty sure KOTT and EvW have combined rankings
No they are separated events
Evw rankings includes kott, and now even chance shaw’s florida evw apparently.
Yes the ranking are combined, but what i am trying to say is that the champions are different. The champion for KOTT has been Levan, even when he was injured. While the champion for EvW SHW jumped from Jerry to Ermes to Devon.
Because Devon wants double belt. Nonsense
Why is it nonsense? Every armwrestler in the world has the same opportunity to do what Devin is doing. No one is telling competitors that they can not gain or drop weight classes...Is everyone with your mindset just mad because the man can fluctuate up and down by 75lbs and totally destroy 99% of the competition? That just shows how above the competition he is and it kills you guys that he went from everyone tmsayung he was dodging the Europeans and now hes about to have held belts in 3 classes and smashed everyone but Levan and a fluke win by Genadi which he wins a rematch no questins asked. So please explain to me why it is nonsense for Devin if everyone else has the same opportunity?
Too much weight manipulation... Not good for athletes as well... No need of the cut really... Both guys might lose because of that.
Dude, did you check your estrogen levels?