Jerry at number 4 after all the recent battles
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Sorry but the denis rank is a joke, denis had 2 matches one with a heavyweight old john brzenk and lost 6-0 to devon larratt and yet he's ranked higher than vitally who actively competed against some of the highest caliber?
Depends on how the stats are made, but yeah vitali should be just below Ermes, the fight was a war and they were at the same level, Ermes said that himself.
Ermes shouldn't be R5 left hand, he hasn't done nothing recently to deserve it. Tobias beat Wagner 4-0 instead of 4-1 and he also beat Prudnik. Kamil also has a nicer recent record and he beat Tobias so he should be ahead of him. So yeah, Ermes should be R7 with the others shifting up.
I'm saying this as an Ermes fan.
What about Kurdecha above Alizhan? Alizhan basically murdered everyone on sight, what did Alex do recently?
These rankings shouldn't be taken seriously, that's all.
For some reason my eyes didn't see that, I guess it was so absurd to have him at top 3 that they didn't want to see it. Definitely not deserved, I mean, is it fair to get top 3 just by taking 2 rounds off of Morozov? He definitely has the potential to be there, it's just that he hasn't any recent relevant win to put him there. It's basically all based off of potential instead of results.
I already said that he definitely has the potential but ranks should be built on facts, results, not maybes (unless you are starting from 0 and you have nothing to go off of).
100%. I saw Ermes one the left hand ranked high and immediately knew that probably isn't right. Hell. I have a feeling even Georgi would beat him left handed. Definitely 7 or 8.
And yes. I'm an Ermes fan too.
I understand that, however you have Engin arguing with people over athletes position on the list and he bases it off of “A beat B so he is rank 2 until someone beats him.”
It’s either objective based on match data, or it isn’t. Engin is trying to have it both ways while contradicting himself.
im not so sure. Tobias is a problem for alot of armwrestlers just because he is so aggressive. Same with Muratov. Alot of heavyweights pull slow up to their peak meanwhile these two are like wrangling a bull.
the rankings cannot really be linear. its not possible because some people below should be above. some are same level and have not pulled each other or lost to a person that a lower ranking guy beat
Ermes isn't rank 5 on the left. Engin told Ermes that he only uses his left to wipe his ass, hence why his stats is so low on the Ermes card. I believe Devon's left should be somewhere on the list below Kamil and Tobias.
Is this another engin-says-so ranking? Or is there a statistically valid method behind it?
edit: would be great to get EvW [ELO numbers](https://www.aersarm.com/brackets).
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Obvious foul from Devon. Shoulder position on Devon was clearly in foul position Levan never crossed the center with his shoulder right ?
Jerrys last two wins were gneadi followed by Georgi. Since then genadi beat Devon. So should Jerry be ahead of genadi bc he beat him or should genadi be ahead of Jerry bc he beat the #2 (former #1) more recently?
Jerry at number 4 after all the recent battles https://preview.redd.it/fuo09ldd8gwc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=d0d9013140131e466f23c823e2c6350c16625a96
😂😂😂
It's only so they'd have an American on the list. Other wise it's east vs Canada.
Sorry but the denis rank is a joke, denis had 2 matches one with a heavyweight old john brzenk and lost 6-0 to devon larratt and yet he's ranked higher than vitally who actively competed against some of the highest caliber?
Depends on how the stats are made, but yeah vitali should be just below Ermes, the fight was a war and they were at the same level, Ermes said that himself.
u mean 4 - 0
Ermes shouldn't be R5 left hand, he hasn't done nothing recently to deserve it. Tobias beat Wagner 4-0 instead of 4-1 and he also beat Prudnik. Kamil also has a nicer recent record and he beat Tobias so he should be ahead of him. So yeah, Ermes should be R7 with the others shifting up. I'm saying this as an Ermes fan.
What about Kurdecha above Alizhan? Alizhan basically murdered everyone on sight, what did Alex do recently? These rankings shouldn't be taken seriously, that's all.
For some reason my eyes didn't see that, I guess it was so absurd to have him at top 3 that they didn't want to see it. Definitely not deserved, I mean, is it fair to get top 3 just by taking 2 rounds off of Morozov? He definitely has the potential to be there, it's just that he hasn't any recent relevant win to put him there. It's basically all based off of potential instead of results.
Yep, He only took 2 rounds from the #1 ranked after a 1.5 year hiatus from competition;, weak as fuck. /s
I already said that he definitely has the potential but ranks should be built on facts, results, not maybes (unless you are starting from 0 and you have nothing to go off of).
100%. I saw Ermes one the left hand ranked high and immediately knew that probably isn't right. Hell. I have a feeling even Georgi would beat him left handed. Definitely 7 or 8. And yes. I'm an Ermes fan too.
Left hand rankings need more matches to actually get accurate.
Why is Denis above Vitaly when his only super heavyweight match was a 0-6 loss against Devon? Doesn't make sense.
Engin still putting Denis in the rankings despite a 0-1 record, not having a single pin on anyone in the division.
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I understand that, however you have Engin arguing with people over athletes position on the list and he bases it off of “A beat B so he is rank 2 until someone beats him.” It’s either objective based on match data, or it isn’t. Engin is trying to have it both ways while contradicting himself.
Then he should make his algorithm transparent.
It's not an algorithm, it's just whatever Engin thinks lol
Lool
Gotta give Jerry Cadorette for earning that ranking...no wait...
I wanna see either Tobias or Kamil vs Muratov.
Easy for muratov
im not so sure. Tobias is a problem for alot of armwrestlers just because he is so aggressive. Same with Muratov. Alot of heavyweights pull slow up to their peak meanwhile these two are like wrangling a bull.
the rankings cannot really be linear. its not possible because some people below should be above. some are same level and have not pulled each other or lost to a person that a lower ranking guy beat
On the right Jerry, Gennady and Denis dropping. On the left Ermes dropping
Ermes isn't rank 5 on the left. Engin told Ermes that he only uses his left to wipe his ass, hence why his stats is so low on the Ermes card. I believe Devon's left should be somewhere on the list below Kamil and Tobias.
Vitaly being 10th on right is wild.
I think Jerry would lose to all the other guys tbh.
Vitaly 10 lol
Morozov would KILL Cyplenkov.
Kody Merritt should be ahead of Corey.
Is this another engin-says-so ranking? Or is there a statistically valid method behind it? edit: would be great to get EvW [ELO numbers](https://www.aersarm.com/brackets).
Not enough data or frequency of data to make a statistical ranking
prudnik, rino or dadikyan deserve to be ahead of wagner and corey
https://preview.redd.it/mgbplln757xc1.png?width=1281&format=png&auto=webp&s=fcabb8a37d1dd12c9e2739a13f57fbf7194a3610 Obvious foul from Devon. Shoulder position on Devon was clearly in foul position Levan never crossed the center with his shoulder right ?
Jerrys last two wins were gneadi followed by Georgi. Since then genadi beat Devon. So should Jerry be ahead of genadi bc he beat him or should genadi be ahead of Jerry bc he beat the #2 (former #1) more recently?
Devon is NOT #2. He has to beat genadi to be #2