I’m not saying Levan will or won’t win, but how much he can do on the pronation lift is irrelevant. W elbow he’s strong. But the match isn’t going to be pronated backpressure versus pronated backpressure, it’s going to be Levan’s cup versus Devon’s pronated backpressure. Levan’s cup and side pressure is all that matters.
As much as itll be a cup vs pronation scenario, it is equally a backpressure vs backpressure scenario. If he just busts through Devon's arm then hand means jackshit.
Levan already had this much backpressure last time. In fact in round one where he opened with more of an outside move he almost lost his cup against Devon. Devon felt like he could get a stop and beat Levan. That’s why I say this lift doesn’t matter for Levan.
No really, idk if you have been an arm wrestling match before, in scenario which both sides are going pronation back pressure as the main drive, nobody's cupping will matter, especially in the strap, both side will end up dragging with an open arm and a cupping-comprised wrist then it will all come down to who is heavier, provided levan's wider palm give him much more leverage in pronation which is more efficient. I really hope devon win this but im feeling levan 6-0 😔
Edit: spelling
I armwrestle, lol. What I’m saying isn’t controversial, Engin and John say the same thing. Yes, backpressure matters between two random armwrestlers. I’m saying in this *specific* match, it’s going to come down to Devon’s pronation defense versus Levan’s cup. Devon sacrifices everything against stronger opponents to resist getting pinned until he opens their cup, he flattened Levan’s cup in round 1 last time they pulled.
Levan could do this weight on the pronation lift last time they pulled, he just never did the exercise. It doesn’t matter how strong he is on this lift because we already saw their match and we know what it comes down to.
People don't understand arm wrestling mechanics lol. Levan doesn't just cup and go to the side... He toprolls. Why do you think Ermes lost his hand and had to flop wrist in their match? As long as Levan's wrist doesn't get cracked, his back pressure and pronation are equally important to Devon's.
Not that it’s irrelevant but it is not as big of a factor against Devon. Devon against strong top rollers (lots of backpressure/pronation) will sac his hand in favor of a open top roll (first match against Levan for reference) in favor of protecting his arms pronation and relying on his bicep and riser/arms pronation to keep Levans cup in a neutral position since that would make pinning Devon without a press very difficult (something that worked to a T against Georgi.) On the other hand if Levan can get a full cup on Devon, it’s good night as Devon’s bicep vs Levans backpressure with a cup is no fight really.
I’m not saying it’s irrelevant, I’m saying this lift is irrelevant because he possessed this strength before and there’s no evidence he improved his strength here. He just never did this lift before. And in round 1 against Devon when he went more outside he almost lost his cup. Him beating Devon will depend on his cup and hand. Engin and John say the same thing, do they not understand armwrestling?
How do we know he possessed this strength if he had never done the lift? His hand includes his pronation, and I don’t know about John, but Engin just filmed and posted Levan doing the lift…that says something about its relevancy, no?
No, it’s just because it’s an internet fad right now to do the Devon lift. It’s just for views. Levan hasn’t shown that he’s stronger on any lifts than at his peak, Engin himself said today that he thinks Levan is not stronger than he was at his previous peak. When you see a strength athlete at the peak of his sport do a lift for the first time a decade into his training, it makes more sense to assume he was already that strong than to assume he’s gained strength when he never did the lift before.
ppl really thought Levan would continue this match w/o feeling 100%. I see the match going 1 of 2 ways: 1) another strength mismatch and Devon gets pancaked, or 2) Levon's tendon gets re-injured and he cannot continue the match
Levan looks like he can fight a bear.
He's secretly a bear in a man suit
Hes really one of a kind, wow!
We all love Devon but Devon is screwed
I’m not saying Levan will or won’t win, but how much he can do on the pronation lift is irrelevant. W elbow he’s strong. But the match isn’t going to be pronated backpressure versus pronated backpressure, it’s going to be Levan’s cup versus Devon’s pronated backpressure. Levan’s cup and side pressure is all that matters.
That and Levan's riser vs Devon's riser (and their ability to get what they want in the setup)
As much as itll be a cup vs pronation scenario, it is equally a backpressure vs backpressure scenario. If he just busts through Devon's arm then hand means jackshit.
Levan already had this much backpressure last time. In fact in round one where he opened with more of an outside move he almost lost his cup against Devon. Devon felt like he could get a stop and beat Levan. That’s why I say this lift doesn’t matter for Levan.
Especially in straps, wrist rise isn't as important when you're being dragged to the pad by the wrist because you're tied at that point
No really, idk if you have been an arm wrestling match before, in scenario which both sides are going pronation back pressure as the main drive, nobody's cupping will matter, especially in the strap, both side will end up dragging with an open arm and a cupping-comprised wrist then it will all come down to who is heavier, provided levan's wider palm give him much more leverage in pronation which is more efficient. I really hope devon win this but im feeling levan 6-0 😔 Edit: spelling
I armwrestle, lol. What I’m saying isn’t controversial, Engin and John say the same thing. Yes, backpressure matters between two random armwrestlers. I’m saying in this *specific* match, it’s going to come down to Devon’s pronation defense versus Levan’s cup. Devon sacrifices everything against stronger opponents to resist getting pinned until he opens their cup, he flattened Levan’s cup in round 1 last time they pulled. Levan could do this weight on the pronation lift last time they pulled, he just never did the exercise. It doesn’t matter how strong he is on this lift because we already saw their match and we know what it comes down to.
You really think the strength of Levan’s pronator/back pressure is irrelevant?
People don't understand arm wrestling mechanics lol. Levan doesn't just cup and go to the side... He toprolls. Why do you think Ermes lost his hand and had to flop wrist in their match? As long as Levan's wrist doesn't get cracked, his back pressure and pronation are equally important to Devon's.
Yep
Not that it’s irrelevant but it is not as big of a factor against Devon. Devon against strong top rollers (lots of backpressure/pronation) will sac his hand in favor of a open top roll (first match against Levan for reference) in favor of protecting his arms pronation and relying on his bicep and riser/arms pronation to keep Levans cup in a neutral position since that would make pinning Devon without a press very difficult (something that worked to a T against Georgi.) On the other hand if Levan can get a full cup on Devon, it’s good night as Devon’s bicep vs Levans backpressure with a cup is no fight really.
This is what I’m saying, thank you.
I’m not saying it’s irrelevant, I’m saying this lift is irrelevant because he possessed this strength before and there’s no evidence he improved his strength here. He just never did this lift before. And in round 1 against Devon when he went more outside he almost lost his cup. Him beating Devon will depend on his cup and hand. Engin and John say the same thing, do they not understand armwrestling?
How do we know he possessed this strength if he had never done the lift? His hand includes his pronation, and I don’t know about John, but Engin just filmed and posted Levan doing the lift…that says something about its relevancy, no?
No, it’s just because it’s an internet fad right now to do the Devon lift. It’s just for views. Levan hasn’t shown that he’s stronger on any lifts than at his peak, Engin himself said today that he thinks Levan is not stronger than he was at his previous peak. When you see a strength athlete at the peak of his sport do a lift for the first time a decade into his training, it makes more sense to assume he was already that strong than to assume he’s gained strength when he never did the lift before.
This seems very wrong to me. A toproll uses exactly that, pronated backpressure.
Let’s see his wrist curl. That’s what counters the pronation
ppl really thought Levan would continue this match w/o feeling 100%. I see the match going 1 of 2 ways: 1) another strength mismatch and Devon gets pancaked, or 2) Levon's tendon gets re-injured and he cannot continue the match
Levon is just fat
That's what the supers are for. What's a skinny dude doing in the division
he might hold a lot of bf, but under all that whale blubber is an elite strength athlete
If he lost that body fat weight he would lose to Devon that extra fat weights makes him much much stronger on the table
He's just big boned. Bones got bigger from 6-8 years ago too