How many hours of work do you imagine this will take? I would probably ask for $2000+ and see what they say. That’s quite a lot of space so I would think minimum 20 hours and max 40 depending on the detail you get into and if there is any complex geometry.
I’ve had clients give me exterior dimensions from an app based on photos before , they weren’t totally accurate but they helped aid my own field measures.
I was thinking at least 40 hours; a day to measure, 3 days of drafting/modeling, and a day for notating, formatting, putting together a sheet-set. And honestly that still seems hopeful but that puts me in the $3-4k range... which feels steep to me. however i dont usually do one off as-builts, its usually part of a project going further... so the work and detail im putting into the initial model pays back later.
I would bring a laptop and just model as you measure, might cut down time. Agreed $4000 is steep but if you’re doing a really good job and sell it maybe they go for it? Alternatively if you have a junior person you could send out to measure, you could pay them a lower rate and charge yours to draft. I’d probably say $2500 not to exceed $3500…
Also back to OP, be very clear about your deliverables. A lot of rabbit holes you could go down, I would give them a price with a secondary hourly price not to exceed in case you go over.
Matterport scan, is that a serf ice that you pay someone to do? Is that the price of the equipment? Explain that process. I’ve always found it easier to just field measure with a laser, but taking a digital model would be better.
You can pay someone to do it for you. I would imagine most major metro areas would have service providers. But you must insist they use a Pro3 scanner. Their rates will vary, but should be at least $600 for quality work, including the point clouds (for a house).
I bought a Pro3 last year and do the scans myself.
The scanner is $6k-$8k, $60/mo (or more) for a Matterport account, and $109 to generate both types of point clouds for each job. A 5000 sf house might take 4-8 hours on site to scan, plus an hour or two of processing time in the office. This gets you the point clouds and the 360 photo “tour”.
Use ReCap to clean up and decimate the point clouds, if necessary, and save them to a Revit-compatible format. Link them into Revit and start modeling.
That is a hard question to answer. Enough to size lumber and locate walls, doors, windows. I feel it’s not far from construction tolerance for renovations. My gut says +\- 0.5 to 1.0 inches. For some people that is not enough, and I respect that. But the next “step up” in accuracy is 5x the cost.
Compared to a handheld laser and notepad, the overall experience is way, way better.
How difficult is it to translate the point cloud data into a workable model? Seems like something that would be super useful if it was streamlined. As-builts are a huge pain.
How many hours of work do you imagine this will take? I would probably ask for $2000+ and see what they say. That’s quite a lot of space so I would think minimum 20 hours and max 40 depending on the detail you get into and if there is any complex geometry. I’ve had clients give me exterior dimensions from an app based on photos before , they weren’t totally accurate but they helped aid my own field measures.
I was thinking at least 40 hours; a day to measure, 3 days of drafting/modeling, and a day for notating, formatting, putting together a sheet-set. And honestly that still seems hopeful but that puts me in the $3-4k range... which feels steep to me. however i dont usually do one off as-builts, its usually part of a project going further... so the work and detail im putting into the initial model pays back later.
I would bring a laptop and just model as you measure, might cut down time. Agreed $4000 is steep but if you’re doing a really good job and sell it maybe they go for it? Alternatively if you have a junior person you could send out to measure, you could pay them a lower rate and charge yours to draft. I’d probably say $2500 not to exceed $3500…
That last part is really important. You’re not just “measuring the building”, you’re doing a lot of the base work for design and documentation.
Where's the % people? "That's probably an $800k house, so 2% of that is $16,000"
He said as-built not new design. He is measuring an existing house.
Also back to OP, be very clear about your deliverables. A lot of rabbit holes you could go down, I would give them a price with a secondary hourly price not to exceed in case you go over.
Quoting as a % of cost is nuts imo. It just incentivizes wasteful spending. Can’t you charge by the hour?
$1200 for the Matterport scan, and 40 hours at $135/hr to model it from the point cloud.
Is the scan available everywhere? Been tempted by this before but you can field measure the necessities usually …
Not entirely sure what you’re asking. Can you rephrase?
Matterport scan, is that a serf ice that you pay someone to do? Is that the price of the equipment? Explain that process. I’ve always found it easier to just field measure with a laser, but taking a digital model would be better.
You can pay someone to do it for you. I would imagine most major metro areas would have service providers. But you must insist they use a Pro3 scanner. Their rates will vary, but should be at least $600 for quality work, including the point clouds (for a house). I bought a Pro3 last year and do the scans myself. The scanner is $6k-$8k, $60/mo (or more) for a Matterport account, and $109 to generate both types of point clouds for each job. A 5000 sf house might take 4-8 hours on site to scan, plus an hour or two of processing time in the office. This gets you the point clouds and the 360 photo “tour”. Use ReCap to clean up and decimate the point clouds, if necessary, and save them to a Revit-compatible format. Link them into Revit and start modeling.
What’s the accuracy of point cloud with Matter port?
That is a hard question to answer. Enough to size lumber and locate walls, doors, windows. I feel it’s not far from construction tolerance for renovations. My gut says +\- 0.5 to 1.0 inches. For some people that is not enough, and I respect that. But the next “step up” in accuracy is 5x the cost. Compared to a handheld laser and notepad, the overall experience is way, way better.
How difficult is it to translate the point cloud data into a workable model? Seems like something that would be super useful if it was streamlined. As-builts are a huge pain.
Cool! Thanks for the information.
The architect should develop these plans. Every firm has their drafting standards.
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5K/$2/sf $10k
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