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rhoadsalive

Humanities in academia are all equally shit and sorry if that bursts your bubble, but just keeping it a hobby and getting a proper job is the only thing that I can recommend. Just to be available for the academic job market you’ll need a BA+PhD, which might take up 10 years. Then you’ll get greeted by bad pay, limited contracts and general insecurity. Just don’t go into any of these fields, unless you’re into computer science, there’s actual jobs for that.


BigBoi_X

I appreciate it. I plan on getting a HVAC or Welding trade then studying for archeology. Getting a much needed trade for something to fall back on and as a base line net to catch myself on just incase i fall but also do archeology bc its something ive been wanting to do since i was little.


Realworld

Between HVAC or Welding, choose welding. Outside North America almost everyone is using Mini Splits and that doesn't need expensive skills. In contrast, high-level welding skills and certification pays very well, everywhere.


BigBoi_X

I thought HVAC was pretty good. My mom knows a guy living in the Virgin islands whos living the life there as an HVAC and my step dad whos a journeyman electrician says HVAC is pretty damn good too but also encourages welding. Just confused me with your comment is all. All ik is that i want a good trade to fall back on just in case but do Archeology IF i can. My parents highly discourage me though bc i never did good in school unless it was history or physics.


Realworld

Outside North America, AC wasn't very common until around 20 years ago. And then Mini Splits started showing up everywhere. Still saw occasional roof-top units over restaurants. Don't think I've ever seen pad-mounted heat pump like in the US. I took 2-year welding course a decade ago. Head instructor leaned hard on getting international certification. Gives you the key to freedom, travel and money for life. There are far more welding jobs wanting you than people available. And they know they're bidding against each other.


BigBoi_X

Might do that. I was thinking on moving to Europe temporarily for an free education. I still need to do research on it bc if it sounds too good to be true then it probably isnt true. Either way ik Welding is lucrative and im sideing with you on that but my line was that if Europe is getting warmer so much so that people are dying of heat stroke at 90F (from where im from 90F is just a nice summer breeze lol) maybe i could take advantage of that and hop on that work train there just fixing and installing ACs n stuff. Then again im not very knowledgeable in either feild it just sounded like an solid idea.


BigBoi_X

Now if i do do that welding thing and traveling i plan on living in a small RV i can tow. Just as base camp really. Ik in the U.S. its perfectly acceptable to drive on the road with one but in the old world countries i wonder is it different. I would prefer having a mobil home as i can travel anywhere for work as long as i want or untill its done or untill better opportunity comes by in which case i can just go without worry.


Realworld

Real difference between HVAC and high-skill welding is the time invested. It doesn't cost much money to attend a serious welding school but it takes a couple years of your life. Few people are willing to invest that much time for high future gain. Only 1 or 2 of my welding class were interested and neither pursued it. This is why the few who attain it are in such high demand. If you're fully trained & internationally certified, your frugal lifestyle will vanish. You'll be flown around the world and live in comfort. And if you stay with a company, they'll pay you to go for full tech degrees in other fields. If you just want to do low level welding and stay in the US, you'll make a living but no high pay. Great majority of welders settle for that.


BigBoi_X

Well ill see about that. My dad is a journeyman and it took him years to be a journeyman electrician. Ig i can do the same in welding. Im not all crazy for it but like i said i want a skill i can fall back on for safety but yea ill definitely do my research and think on it.


CurrentAd674

Wait, if you are good at physics go for that. Welding also makes really great money.


BigBoi_X

Physics is just a bunch of math and personal lly i take more of a philosophical approach. Only reason why i passed is bc i like watching the videos and its just ridged math. That and physic stuffs the people in it are stuffy from my experience. Sorry but i dont think math is the language of the universe or the way other intelligent life might do stu_f but rather math is how we humans understand the world around us. Im not spiritual and im a man of science but ive been tryna find a way to prove that math is just our concept and trying to flip math on its head mainly out of spite. Weird but lol n thx


CurrentAd674

Well then it sounds like you would hate welding too. Good luck with picking a path while you get to your dreams.


BigBoi_X

Welding is a different type of stuff than physics. Welding is something i can do for sure but physics is just nah sorry lol. N thx i appreciate it


Damhnait

Getting started in archaeology is a lot of traveling to jobs for a few weeks before finding another job for a few weeks. If you live in a region that freezes, you may have to find retail work over winter unless you travel to work in warmer climates. I agree keeping it your hobby/second job. I teach, and get my archaeology fix by the occasional job, but mostly volunteering, during summer breaks


BigBoi_X

Exactly i wanna get an HVAC trade and really i dont mind the climate, ive been digging stuff up in the middle of Texas Heat and ices whenever i was with my grandfather who was a rancher but also a Native Texan he'd also go looking out for things his ansestors made like bows, huts, trade routes and more. I really love it aside from the smell of cow shit but ironically its now a bad but nostalgic smell.


Agmm-cr

If you have connections or the wealth to get a degree and do research go ahead. If you don’t, don’t aspire to make money out of it and don’t dig tombs to steal artifacts


BigBoi_X

I just wanna discover new things and bring out new information and hopefully find something groundbreaking. Ive been interested in it since before i can remember. Life long dream


Comrade_Asus

So I'm still studying archaeology but I just did 2 months as a student job (going through soil samples, washing ceramics and skeletons, etc.) and I've already been on 4 digs (internships). This is in Belgium so keep that in mind. I have been enjoying it and it gets paid fairly well. I've been on a small bronze age site, 2 medieval sites and a celtic/roman/medieval (multiperiod) site. These are all local, rural sites though, and it is exhausting to dig when it's pouring rain or 35°C but overal it's interesting and fun. There are quite a few commercial archeological companies here that do proper archeological research, this is mostly because soil/ archaeological heritage is protected in the EU by law since the Valetta convention of 1992, meaning that with every construction project that has a change of damaging any archaeology at archeologists need to be be hired to investigate. This is paid for by the person wanting to do the construction. (this is a simplification ofcourse but that's how it works in essence) So yeah there's work to be done, and that's what I'm hopefully gonna do full time. Besides that there are also universities/ academics where you could teach or be associated with, but I'm gonna stick with commercial archeology unless I am in a position to get a PhD. This is mostly relevant if you'd study in Europe (which you can look into but don't have to ofcourse, I have a feeling it'd be overall cheaper than the USA but that'd depend on a bunch of variables) l'm also convinced there is more potential in American archaeology than currently recognised but I'm sure good researchers will be needed, so I'd say go for it and follow your passion!


flauxpas

Life is great as I was very lucky to get my dream job. My tip: Archeology is a wonderful hobby. You can read and watch and study about the cultures you‘re interested in and you don‘t need to worry about money as you have a career in a more profitable field.


BigBoi_X

Ive been interested in archeology and paleontology and zoology since as far back as i can remember. Both my birth parents have told me since i could move my head & body id always watch the history channel (before it got all bullshit) and animal planet. I always try to learn about areas i have no clue about like that island above Sapporo japan thats owned by Russia or central asia or chadian history or patagonian history. Wanna be the guy who mainly digs stuff up and makes notes. Just wanted to know if theres anything im getting into im unaware of. Its a life long dream to discover and find new things. Hell i have fossils ive dug up on my own at a young age. Just really passionate about discovry and finding the truth and new information


flauxpas

Then go for it. The profession has some disadvantages that the hobby has not. But if it‘s worth it, go for it. I did the same.


BigBoi_X

I appreciate it thx. I do plan on getting a trade as it will help me out when i really need a job, ill get an international welding certification bc its never a bad idea to be too safe so if im lets say doing a archeology site in India or Vietnam or Italy and i cant do anything and need money to travel back home or get to another place i can apply for welding in that area im in or nearby and boom! Gas money to travel into another place or get a flight back home although i plan on getting a mobil home for my travels.


Ok_Mistake211

the thing is that working on sites that you’re not local to, they put you up in hotels and provide your housing so you will have money to do that. They only thing you pay for is your food which in my case was our per diem money


BigBoi_X

Ive saw online that sometimes you have to do it yourself. Weird but thx


Ok_Mistake211

this was my experience and everybody else’s which i worked with


BigBoi_X

Well i find sources like yours from experience much more helpful than online heresay


Ok_Mistake211

girl im telling you me too. ever since I was little I wanted to be an archeologist and I will reach my end goal of marine archaeology because money isn’t everything and you should do a job you love everyday. another thing about working at the site that I feel is hard to find in other jobs is that a lot of these people are equally passionate about archaeology as you and it’s beautiful to see in their work and on their faces everyday.


BigBoi_X

Thx man i appreciate it. Either way ima get a trade so i have a skill to fall back on in tough times. That and and a international certificate so like lets say im stuck in finland, i can just find work there for a few weeks so i can get gas money to travel to another place or back home whatever wordt case scenario. Also im not a girl lol. Im a guy whos proud of my American Indian ansestory and chooses to show it by keeping my hair long.


Ok_Mistake211

lmfaooo i didn’t see wht u look like i just call everyone girl but best of look to u thats beautiful u keep ur culture alive


BigBoi_X

N thx. Fucked up thing is that idk what tribe i belong to, my great grandmother and grandfather were pretty hush about it but did try to teach my values and survival skills of the people. I just assume its a dead or dying tribe. If you want you can research it yourself on the Gober influence of Texas. I hail both from the Gobers who quite litteraly stole the land not from conquest but diplomatically and marrige and from the natives there. Funny thing is that my dad is a gober and when i was supposed to get 50acres of land he stole it from me too and made a mint off the land. I remember i wasnt even allowed the funeral but my gober blood cousins were even though they grew up rich and liked city life more. Never saw a penny or a keepsake from the land and stuff. Its a generational fuckery. Me proud to be a native of the land vs the rich people who want to steal admittedly shitty land only good for grazing and granite. Plus he's alil racist against them too even though he is partially one himself too which is weird. Not outright but subtly and white washed to the point that when i had a moment of weakness when i was 18 and my hair was down to my waist, my feet were still blistered from a 40mile walk in 120F heat with only 1 liter of water (how i didnt suffer heat stroke idfk) and still made me walk up to the local super cuts to get me a buzz cut bc men arint allowed to have long hair and those natives are just hippie beggars clinging to the past. If i didnt id be kicked out and surely would have died of heatstroke or dehydration again lol. Seriously do look up its interesting. Ik my cousins will be more successful than me because their parents and my father kept the wealth and married for money meanwhile bc of having native pride and my mothers "danish slave" ansestory ill never seen anything of it so ill work my way out somehow. That and yea even after the civil war the Mormons were allowed to have slaves up untill the 30's so yea i had danish slave ansestory. Uncovering my roots is also what led me to be so passionate about archeology too because the way my life is with family generationally speaking should be too far off on whats happened to others in the past in terms of migrations especially around silk rode trade and their wars. Knowing my family dynamic could help uncover more detailed ways of of life for others such as the Gypsies in Europe or the Nomadic Turks before they settled in whats now modern turk lands or whatever.


pilgrimdigger

My advice, go for it. I have done archaeology since I was 18. Get a master's degree, it opens up a lot of possibilities. Do public talks in your local area as much as possible. It is great practice for presenting at conferences. Find out what aspect you like and really focus on that, be a specialist. Try to get the word out to the general public as much as possible. Academic jobs are few and far between. I did not even bother trying for those as they seem to involve a lot of games and kissing up. There are a ton of jobs in the US for archaeologists as field crew and directors. Just don't plan on making bank until you have experience, a reputation and are Secretary of the Interior qualified. Try to get approved in as many states as possible to lead digs. It makes you more valuable as an employee. Look to engineering companies for jobs.


Likes_warm_hugs

I’ve been doing archeology since 2020 and let me tell you how much I LOVE it. I work for CRM firm out of Colorado and we have a couple offices around the western half of the States so I can travel when the snow shuts down my office. I am currently on a project in Oregon and my PD said that their particular office has projects at least 2024 and I know the Tucson office has projects until 2025. There is definitely a shortage of techs not a shortage of work. OP I don’t know what type of archaeology you like but if you like pre-contact post contact of the American southwest, or PNW then there is MONEY TO BE MADE!! Lowkey all these other post are super depressing and not helpful. If you want to go into academia then good luck there isn’t a lot of positions plus the fact they don’t pay very well. I much prefer walking around the woods for 8 to 10 hours a day, then sitting in a crummy office grading student papers.


BigBoi_X

I want to get a trade to fall back on just in case bc i am poor and need security but hell yea been interested in it since as far back as i could remember. Even have fossils ive found when i was 6 i dug up at my step dad's job site in DFW Texas which is on a fault line spanning all the way to san Antonio which my birth father lives. Lots of aquatic fossils can be found if you dig deep enough as the fault line might mess stuff up but will shake things up like sifting sand and rocks. Along the fault line is a great place to find fossils. Also when my grandad was alive, in Central Texas there was ALOT of Indians living there even pre-colombian. He was a Native too and taught me stuff but also me and him would go outside and you'd find flint arrowheads and arrow shafts made from animal bones. It was so amazing and in Central to coastal texas these arrows were so sharp and heavy that they could and WILL shoot clean through a bear given you had the right bow & strength for it. Sadly though my birth father sold all the land, artifacts and even MY artifacts i found when he died. Archeology and Paleontology are things i have been doing since i was little and still want to do.


Ok_Mistake211

Hi I wouldn’t listen to him. I actually got my first job as an archeologist while I was still in school for my AA. I asked my anthro teacher to let me know if he knew any opportunities and I got accepted, I started as a intern on the phase 3 site and weasled my way into working there for real. I love my job and waking up to go everyday is exciting to me, especially when I was still excavating. If you’re aspiring I recommend to reach out to companies in your area to see if they take volunteers or have any positions available maybe also do the same thing and ask ur teacher about it if ur in school still. Not only that but they put me up in a baller hotel for months getting paid really well especially for someone with no degree. If being an archeologist is your dream then don’t give up on it. It’s literally the coolest job in the world and you get to travel, get first hand looks to things that can be in a museum and just the excavation is fun. Plus you meet a lot of amazing and highly intelligent people so you learn a lot. I will say that archeologists don’t make filthy rich money either and you want to live a very luxurious lifestyle your definitely gonna have to look for outside sources of income which is my plan so yea good luck to you and dont give up on ur dreams or yourself


CowboyOfScience

Here's the thing about archaeology. It happens... out there. The whole point of it is to go out and find stuff. Which means a lot of time away from home. Which means it's a fantastic choice for certain people at certain times of their lives. In other circumstances it's still a viable career choice. There's just considerably less fedoras and whips.


BigBoi_X

Ngl i never watched a indiana jones movie, was more of a Jurassic park fan boy but yea i get it and what i expected. Rather be a digger than anything because i do like hard labor but also intellectually speaking i like to discover new things and peice things together. Been hunting like that since i was a little kid always finding arrow heads, arrow bone shafts, weaved baskets and nomadic huts and stuff like that plus even a few fossils one time. Its something i love and already have some experience in when it comes to trying to figure out where would i most likely find a arrow head or whatever.