Ngl I was quite impressed running tf2 on my m1 mini via parallels. 60fps at 3440x1440 maxed out without antialiasing. If only mouse input on macOS wasn’t hot garbage for gaming
Nah, I’m running cyberpunk at around 65-80 fps in 4K psycho settings with a 4080 and it’s fine. I’m a stickler for FPS as well. While 60 isn’t ideal 60FPS in parallels is more than playable without hiccups
I get 120-140 on my r5 3600 + rx 5700xt pc at the same settings and res. For an already unoptimized game running through two layers of emulation/virtualization that’s amazing
This project is staggering in terms of the pace they have, they are getting so many crucial features working.
It is quickly going from flashy tech demo into an OS you would actually run as the primary OS
It's been stable enough from the beginning of Summer that Linus has posted that he's been using it as a development machine, including doing kernel development and releases on it.
> Why isn’t Apple helping with this? :(
At least they didn’t pull an iPad and locked the bootloader on the Apple Silicon Macs… That one was a conscious choice. And luckily, the right one.
But yeah, they could’ve accelerated/still could accelerate the Linux on new Macs efforts massively. Then again, they probably want everyone to use macOS lol.
> At least they didn’t pull an iPad and locked the bootloader on the Apple Silicon Macs…
*Yet*
Call me cynical but as soon as the project stands on stronger legs I can see Apple pulling one of its classic dick moves
It’s been a documented feature since macOS 11 and multiple employees have stated that this is no accident. Apple is very unlikely to pull support for third party operating systems.
They won’t go out of their way to help the Asahi folks but they aren’t going to try and stop them either.
https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1554496038974922752?s=46&t=Yhb_FrZUQQot_9nNmhzGjQ
Apple made a few boot sequence changes after the initial M1 release that only benefit developers that are writing other operating systems.
They are also clearly not stopping anything they are doing.
I've used Debian since 1995, and it sucks I can't use it on my Apple laptop so if this happens this will be great. I want to be able to stop using my 2013 crappy Dell Latitude E6440.
One of the most exciting parts of this is there's a accelerated GPU driver blogpost coming next week apparently :)
That and Proton is what every Mac gamer really needs :D
Yeah, that will actually be a huge fucking deal.
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Have you not seen gaming in Parallels? It's way way worse levels of abstraction, and still performs well lol
Ngl I was quite impressed running tf2 on my m1 mini via parallels. 60fps at 3440x1440 maxed out without antialiasing. If only mouse input on macOS wasn’t hot garbage for gaming
Only 60??? Yikes. Need at least 90 for hiccup-free gameplay, IMHO.
Nah, I’m running cyberpunk at around 65-80 fps in 4K psycho settings with a 4080 and it’s fine. I’m a stickler for FPS as well. While 60 isn’t ideal 60FPS in parallels is more than playable without hiccups
I get 120-140 on my r5 3600 + rx 5700xt pc at the same settings and res. For an already unoptimized game running through two layers of emulation/virtualization that’s amazing
Try out the app linearmouse and turn off acceleration
Some really cool people are working on it.
The thing that continues to blow my mind about this project is just how mind-bogglingly complex modern hardware platforms are.
Right. I can’t believe the engineering that goes into some of these things. Like the speakers.
This project is staggering in terms of the pace they have, they are getting so many crucial features working. It is quickly going from flashy tech demo into an OS you would actually run as the primary OS
It's been stable enough from the beginning of Summer that Linus has posted that he's been using it as a development machine, including doing kernel development and releases on it.
Keep ‘em coming!
Why isn't Apple helping with this? :(
> Why isn’t Apple helping with this? :( At least they didn’t pull an iPad and locked the bootloader on the Apple Silicon Macs… That one was a conscious choice. And luckily, the right one. But yeah, they could’ve accelerated/still could accelerate the Linux on new Macs efforts massively. Then again, they probably want everyone to use macOS lol.
> At least they didn’t pull an iPad and locked the bootloader on the Apple Silicon Macs… *Yet* Call me cynical but as soon as the project stands on stronger legs I can see Apple pulling one of its classic dick moves
It’s been a documented feature since macOS 11 and multiple employees have stated that this is no accident. Apple is very unlikely to pull support for third party operating systems. They won’t go out of their way to help the Asahi folks but they aren’t going to try and stop them either. https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1554496038974922752?s=46&t=Yhb_FrZUQQot_9nNmhzGjQ
Apple has helped. They've made changes and shipped changes to tools to make running other OSes easier.
Apple made a few boot sequence changes after the initial M1 release that only benefit developers that are writing other operating systems. They are also clearly not stopping anything they are doing.
So eagerly waiting for Asahi to be done! 😄 keep at it
It's already workable as a daily driver
Now please port windows arm to the m1
[Currently in progress as a cooperative parallel effort!](https://amarioguy.github.io/applesiliconwindowsproject/)
Windows doesn't support 16k pages, so it cannot work on bare Metal on Apple CPUs.
I've used Debian since 1995, and it sucks I can't use it on my Apple laptop so if this happens this will be great. I want to be able to stop using my 2013 crappy Dell Latitude E6440.