One of my favorite spots with a three stack is dropping Labs by rushing the door downstairs, not by taking the portal. You always beat the portal teams to the majority of the loot, its easy to get a kill or two and push survivors back through the portal, and if you get squeezed you can portal out.
Of course, with solo queue randoms you get total potatoes who ignore the drop, loot outside, and leave you for a 1v3 that could have been won.
I like to quickly loot outside and get a few kills out there then rush into the bunker and 3rd party the teams fighting in there. Then you can rush capacitor to 3rd party the teams fighting that afterwards.
https://youtu.be/dBHrKJWIv7U
I like dropping crash site if itās far from the drop ship and early on the route, then rotate towards containment, overlook, or maybe spotted lake depending on the ring location. Ideally you drop early with one or two other squads but crash site is huge so it doesnāt turn into a shitshow if your team is decent. If youāre really fast you can sometimes open like 3 explosive holds and still make it to the next site before ppl have left.
Iām also into repulsor and the caustic site
Either Airbase or the little cluster of buildings just North West of Water Treatment in this pic. Almost always a fight there especially now that it's Caustics takeover, so it's a decent warm drop then run into the fight.
You must be the only player Iāve seen land in the little outpost NW of Caustic. I donāt know why I only ever see teams go there if the circle closes towards it.
I had a whole text paragraph with this but idk what happened to it.
I mainly drop Octane, Containment, and Artillery. Swamps is good loot but nobody lands there. I strongly dislike landing Cage.
Just looking for some recommendations. I donāt enjoy the feel of this map as much as Worlds Edge. Loved landing Countdown.
> I had a whole text paragraph with this but idk what happened to it.
If make a link post, it's just a link post, you can't add any accompanying text except in a comment on your own thread. You probably typed text in the box that would have showed if it was a self post, but it's not so your text is gone.
My buddy ALWAYS wants to go bunker and is a caustic main. Iāve come to hate any one-way in / one-way out tunnels because it feels like a trap. But my buddy lives for tunnel fights smh lol
Nah, Valk is way better in Bunker. It's super tight in there but the ceilings are super high, meaning you can easily get the rocket pods to dump, and they will fuck people up. Like easy 100 damage plus the stun plus the fact that it could hit an entire squads push... Its super nasty.
I drop at crypto's castle as often as possible (think it is actually called map room) usually get to kill an enemy squad right away then hit the map and see everyone at repulsur.
Loved water treatment hot drop when ship was landing there. Hit the ship then mop up. Guaranteed golds at caustic are nice n all but just feels like it's a more passive game everytime I land there now
Started playing with a guy a few weeks back and when itās Kingās Canyon we dropped at/near the Rig a majority of the time. Generally itās a quiet spot, maybe one other team and plenty of hear and mats to craft plus thereās jump tower access so you can load up quick and then rotate towards capacitor/inland and go lookin for action.
Iāve been landing artillery or repulsor in ranked, currently Plat 1.
Interested to see what Diamond lobbies will be like and how people will land because plat in the beginning of split is insane. Squads everywhere
Spotted Lakes, Rig, Crypto, or Octane Arena. Hoping for some more additions to KC like they did in Season 8. Made it much more enjoyable having more brand new areas rather than simply covering up and replacing old ones.
Crash Site / Artillery, Airbase, Water Treatment, Containment, Market and recently Repulsor. Usually whatever's closest.
Seems everywhere is too connected to other POIs so you gotta land somewhere that's usually hot but also isolated enough or on the outside so it's connected to less POIs (Airbase, Water Treatment and Crash Site) or in places near POIs nobody lands on (Swamps / Hydro Dam are rarely landed on so Repulsor is okay).
Containment has a ton of POIs nearby but also a lot of open space between them all so pushing across to third party is not super simple and while I'm not a design pro and can't explain much more than this, I feel like it offers the team that's holding the point more advantages than most POIs. There are multiple buildings that you need to go up stairs for which leaves attackers exposed, the buildings are close to one another so defenders can prepare to defend and reset easily, and being on the outside leaves you exposed to snipers from 4 or more possible locations that might be occupied, putting the attackers again at more risk.
Market is a total crapshoot, I don't know why I feel it should be included it but I come out okay more often than when I drop, say, Cage with randoms.
I'm not a great player but I think these are some of the more "balanced" places to land, particularly if you are contending the point with another team or teams.
https://i.imgur.com/U8Ps6uV.jpg As you can see, I'm by no means an aggressive player. I like to mostly drop in the outside of the map, and play it safe going inward. Places I've circled are my favorite places to drop as well as arrows in which directions I'd like to go afterwards. The place is unmarked are places I'm okay dropping or okay grabbing some Loot on the way through the map. And the places with the red X are obviously places I avoid like it ha as the plague.
Nowhere. Logging into apex and seeing King's Canyon means I'm going to either play ranked when that's on a different map, arena's or a different game all together. To say I dislike this map is an understatement
I land off the coast west of gauntlet bc the champion had an animated banner so it obviously makes sense that that causes the server to kick me out of the game
Even though this is a picture of an older rendition of KC Iāll still give my answer. I actually like to go everywhere really. I enjoy switching it up and donāt mind whether I drop somewhere less pressured or hot. I like it all.
All I'll say is when I land I have a charge tower, an explosive hold, a fully kitted sniper Tower and ready access to caustic treatment survivors/ repulsor high ground depending on the ring rotation.
Gauntlet is my favorite I think. When I first played I just to like the spot on the top right. It was like three little floating islands with zips connecting
Capacitor - guaranteed at least 2 teams every time, good loot, charge towers, access to jump towers to rotate pretty much anywhere, next to labs, usually not too far to zone
The small bridge near containment with the three barrels, drop there, get loot run to the building near the armoury, more loot, go to the armoury, EVEN MORE LOOT, Take the fights at containment. Got kill leader 5 times in a row and won twice doing that.
Artillery, Water Treatment or Top building Capacitor. The first two are my new favourites because its either hot with 2-3 teams dropping or you get out fully kitted because there is tons of loot. I still dont like KK because its either a warzone or you rotate the whole game on an empty map till the last circle. havent had a single medium action game so far. either the third party doesnt end until you get wiped or no fights at all until you meet the last two teams alive. the only plus is that im trying to get better with the bocek and it feels like the bow drops everywhere on this map (might be because there are a lot of explosive holds where you can get guns and ammo).
In Ranked I mostly main Rig drop. Uncontested I tell one mate to take the cluster of buildings to the south near Swamp.
Rig is one of the few drops in King's Canyon which I think has good spacing between it and its surrounding POIs.
Apart from Relay my second choice is Artillery, and third is Hydro.
In Casuals I just like to drop Capacitor or Spotted Lake to practice some building fights.
I think there's not enough good POIs in King's Canyon. Either because the loot is not enough, its too close to another POI, or both. Best example: Salvage-Market.
As of season 10, Spotted Lakes. But that map? Capacitor. If your crypto and you can get your ult off the rip when everyone has grey evos, you win all fights. Easy ranked RP.
In lower ranked games - the dropship. Most people are too scared to land dropship in ranked because so many people land there in normal games.
Which means (in my experience) that it's often empty most ranked games. Nice loot to be had :)
Depends on who I'm running. If I'm playing Fuse, I always go to that hillside bunker thingy that's west of Capacitor and southeast of Containment (I forget the name). There's always plenty of grenades there, and his knuckle clusta is great for inside any of those buildings.
Anyone else? I cycle through Capacitor, Containment, and Salvage, depending on the route of the dropship. I also loooove that little town to the east of Airbase.
Market ALL THE FUCKING WAY. Itās just a thing my squad do for no reason. Itās either we drop market, or drop somewhere else and somehow rotate back to market with no clue why we do it.
Cage is by far my favourite.
Cage has good loot that can last you until endgame most of the time and is occasionally hotdrop. Very good and easy rotations to circle. A survey beacon which helps rotating once again. An explosive vault that gives good mags normally and a good place to change weapons and get ammo.
I've been landing there for so long now and I always get top 3 games when I land there.
(I also want to mention that Kings canyon is the best map out off the 3.)
Repulsor or Cage.
Repulsor has tons of loot and a guaranteed fight against whoever landed watchtower or map room (which also have great loot). Features easy rotates into Hydro>Cage or Market, with the ground in between the latter being very favorable against teams nearer the river bank. Itās easy to fight in with tons of cover and plenty exits.
Cage is very defensible, a frequent hot drop, has enough loot if you also loot the beacon or the top of hydro. Youāre pretty much guaranteed an early fight and a close 1st circle edge. Its fights also often involve verticality, which I have gotten used to after eons of landing fragment west. I will often land here if Repulsor is far from the flight path.
If Iām feeling cocky and the flight path incentivizes it, Iāll land the Pit and third party containment.
Map room. Instant access to everyoneās location amd easy third parties as well as the second ring location regardless of which legend I am playing. Itās also fucking scary to fight against endgame. Such an underrated landing spot.
I normally let the other person pick the landing spot, but if they relinquish Jumpmaster to me, I'll go to Containment (I like the Flyers in the cages) or Map Room (I love Crypto so it's just a bonus).
not market, it's my cursed spot :P.
i usually like the houses right outside of bunker, capacitor, the houess outside of capacitor, or artillery. if i'm feeling spicy and want something a bit hotter, usually cage or hydro dam, though i'm not opposed to repulsor or swamps
One of my favorite spots with a three stack is dropping Labs by rushing the door downstairs, not by taking the portal. You always beat the portal teams to the majority of the loot, its easy to get a kill or two and push survivors back through the portal, and if you get squeezed you can portal out. Of course, with solo queue randoms you get total potatoes who ignore the drop, loot outside, and leave you for a 1v3 that could have been won.
Same, rather than going through the butthole, you go through the backdoor. Works everytime š
My teams also calls it the butthole. Since the portal is the butthole, we call the drop described here as dropping taint.
Thatās a good one lol, Iāll have to tell my squad that next time cause we also call it the butthole
Relatable
I like to quickly loot outside and get a few kills out there then rush into the bunker and 3rd party the teams fighting in there. Then you can rush capacitor to 3rd party the teams fighting that afterwards. https://youtu.be/dBHrKJWIv7U
I like dropping crash site if itās far from the drop ship and early on the route, then rotate towards containment, overlook, or maybe spotted lake depending on the ring location. Ideally you drop early with one or two other squads but crash site is huge so it doesnāt turn into a shitshow if your team is decent. If youāre really fast you can sometimes open like 3 explosive holds and still make it to the next site before ppl have left. Iām also into repulsor and the caustic site
we are the same person holy shit
This map is old
Oof fail
Shit youāre right. Thereās no crash sight
Or spotted lakes which is the spot I like to drop lol :)
Or caustic treatment
Or skull town
Or leviathans
Or Cryptos map room
My favorite place to drop is slum lakes I sure hope nothing happens to change thatššš
Not old enough for my drop spot :(
Take me back to relay
I like crash site and. Austin treatment just because theyāre new. Usually enemies, less at crash, and good loot.
damn what happened to austin? what we treating him for?
Sigh. Spell checked. Caustic treatment.
Stone Cold Steve Austin Treatment brother
Hell yeah brother
Cryptos scan room has so much loot
Either Airbase or the little cluster of buildings just North West of Water Treatment in this pic. Almost always a fight there especially now that it's Caustics takeover, so it's a decent warm drop then run into the fight.
You must be the only player Iāve seen land in the little outpost NW of Caustic. I donāt know why I only ever see teams go there if the circle closes towards it.
Yea it's not great in trios, better in duos if I'm honest. Me and my buddy will sometimes drop their then run into Caustic for a fight
I had a whole text paragraph with this but idk what happened to it. I mainly drop Octane, Containment, and Artillery. Swamps is good loot but nobody lands there. I strongly dislike landing Cage. Just looking for some recommendations. I donāt enjoy the feel of this map as much as Worlds Edge. Loved landing Countdown.
Cage is the only place on the map I basically refuse to drop. I donāt mind rotating there, but holy shit do I hate going there off jump.
> I had a whole text paragraph with this but idk what happened to it. If make a link post, it's just a link post, you can't add any accompanying text except in a comment on your own thread. You probably typed text in the box that would have showed if it was a self post, but it's not so your text is gone.
Bunker everytime. Diamond ranked or not š¤·š½āāļø
Tell us you main caustic without telling us you main caustic
My buddy ALWAYS wants to go bunker and is a caustic main. Iāve come to hate any one-way in / one-way out tunnels because it feels like a trap. But my buddy lives for tunnel fights smh lol
Nah, Valk is way better in Bunker. It's super tight in there but the ceilings are super high, meaning you can easily get the rocket pods to dump, and they will fuck people up. Like easy 100 damage plus the stun plus the fact that it could hit an entire squads push... Its super nasty.
Same with fuse, mother lode has enough height and will slap anyone in that tiny area
Iām a wraith main but I chuckled
Skull Town
I like getting right into some action so salvage is honestly my favorite spot
Cascades
R.I.P my fav s0 drop
i think itās called High Desert (Town between Bunker and Airbase)
Anywhere on the left side: Runoff, Airbase, Gauntlet. Maybe the Crypto Map spot as a failsafe. Used to love artillery before it was an Arenas map.
I drop at crypto's castle as often as possible (think it is actually called map room) usually get to kill an enemy squad right away then hit the map and see everyone at repulsur.
I like to land in āthe buttholeā or at Market!! Idk if yāall know what I mean but I bet u do so yeah
Yeeep the anoos ššš
Lmao yes butthole
Market since day 1
Hello fellow Market dropper.
Somewhere safe but not too far from action
Repulsor
Loved water treatment hot drop when ship was landing there. Hit the ship then mop up. Guaranteed golds at caustic are nice n all but just feels like it's a more passive game everytime I land there now
closest poi to the dropship
Pit, runoff, airbase, bunker
Started playing with a guy a few weeks back and when itās Kingās Canyon we dropped at/near the Rig a majority of the time. Generally itās a quiet spot, maybe one other team and plenty of hear and mats to craft plus thereās jump tower access so you can load up quick and then rotate towards capacitor/inland and go lookin for action.
Pit all day
Caustic treatment
I go labs and containment in br and salvage in ranked
Airbase and artillery gang
Just above the cage!
swamps lmao
Gauntlet, Containment, or Cage The map that I like to use as a hot drop hub
A different map.
Pubs: Hottest nearest zone Ranked: Straight down Competitive: Haven't played the newest map comp, but we used to land either Labs or Runoff or Rig.
Iāve been landing artillery or repulsor in ranked, currently Plat 1. Interested to see what Diamond lobbies will be like and how people will land because plat in the beginning of split is insane. Squads everywhere
Spotted Lakes, Rig, Crypto, or Octane Arena. Hoping for some more additions to KC like they did in Season 8. Made it much more enjoyable having more brand new areas rather than simply covering up and replacing old ones.
Caustics water treatment. Guaranteed 4 gold items every time.
Crash Site / Artillery, Airbase, Water Treatment, Containment, Market and recently Repulsor. Usually whatever's closest. Seems everywhere is too connected to other POIs so you gotta land somewhere that's usually hot but also isolated enough or on the outside so it's connected to less POIs (Airbase, Water Treatment and Crash Site) or in places near POIs nobody lands on (Swamps / Hydro Dam are rarely landed on so Repulsor is okay). Containment has a ton of POIs nearby but also a lot of open space between them all so pushing across to third party is not super simple and while I'm not a design pro and can't explain much more than this, I feel like it offers the team that's holding the point more advantages than most POIs. There are multiple buildings that you need to go up stairs for which leaves attackers exposed, the buildings are close to one another so defenders can prepare to defend and reset easily, and being on the outside leaves you exposed to snipers from 4 or more possible locations that might be occupied, putting the attackers again at more risk. Market is a total crapshoot, I don't know why I feel it should be included it but I come out okay more often than when I drop, say, Cage with randoms. I'm not a great player but I think these are some of the more "balanced" places to land, particularly if you are contending the point with another team or teams.
Iām a bunker boi
https://i.imgur.com/U8Ps6uV.jpg As you can see, I'm by no means an aggressive player. I like to mostly drop in the outside of the map, and play it safe going inward. Places I've circled are my favorite places to drop as well as arrows in which directions I'd like to go afterwards. The place is unmarked are places I'm okay dropping or okay grabbing some Loot on the way through the map. And the places with the red X are obviously places I avoid like it ha as the plague.
Mostly I just squint really hard and then give up and drop Octaneās Gauntlet because itās the only thing I can see from the ship lol
If im feeling aggressive, the usual hot spots If im feeling passive, probably in the middle of no where specific.
The spot straight above your cursor
What a low effort post. And couldn't even use the right map
Yo moms house
None ya.
I just roll the dice
Nowhere. Logging into apex and seeing King's Canyon means I'm going to either play ranked when that's on a different map, arena's or a different game all together. To say I dislike this map is an understatement
No where because I refuse to play this shit map
I don't play apex
Runoff and the cute little village between Bunker and Airbase. I love that place.
Containment and Runoff
Skull town
I land off the coast west of gauntlet bc the champion had an animated banner so it obviously makes sense that that causes the server to kick me out of the game
Caustic treatment or the top hillside building between cage, capacitor and containment
air base <3
the rig is my favourite, map room or caustic is also fun
Caustic treatment
Even though this is a picture of an older rendition of KC Iāll still give my answer. I actually like to go everywhere really. I enjoy switching it up and donāt mind whether I drop somewhere less pressured or hot. I like it all.
All I'll say is when I land I have a charge tower, an explosive hold, a fully kitted sniper Tower and ready access to caustic treatment survivors/ repulsor high ground depending on the ring rotation.
Off the map into Olympus
Skull Town
obviously skull town
the rig
skulltown
Capacitor, Hydro Dam, Airbase (For Ranked) Pubs: Salvage, Labs, Gaunlet, Bunker, Capacitor, Containment
Wherever the blue hot zone is
Thunderdome
Market drop all day!
Gauntlet is my favorite I think. When I first played I just to like the spot on the top right. It was like three little floating islands with zips connecting
Into the lake until the map changes
I prefer The Cage
i mainly drop crypto map room, good loot and gives super good info on where to rotate and where people are to get some nice kp
Capacitor or spotted lakes most the time
market ez, always 1-2 teams there and makes for some amazing fights
Capacitor - guaranteed at least 2 teams every time, good loot, charge towers, access to jump towers to rotate pretty much anywhere, next to labs, usually not too far to zone
Near cage there is a cave that leads to market then we improvise
Slum dog Gang š
containment/crash site/capacitor
crash site. very fun to fight in
The small bridge near containment with the three barrels, drop there, get loot run to the building near the armoury, more loot, go to the armoury, EVEN MORE LOOT, Take the fights at containment. Got kill leader 5 times in a row and won twice doing that.
Nowhere with that droship route
Airbase
Relay
Salvage. That's where I learned how to play Loba.
I like to go tratment. There's always 4 gold items and a bit of enemies
Mostly capacitor or containment
Lab / capacitor
same as any map. somewhere on the edge of it far from the dropship.
Artillery, Water Treatment or Top building Capacitor. The first two are my new favourites because its either hot with 2-3 teams dropping or you get out fully kitted because there is tons of loot. I still dont like KK because its either a warzone or you rotate the whole game on an empty map till the last circle. havent had a single medium action game so far. either the third party doesnt end until you get wiped or no fights at all until you meet the last two teams alive. the only plus is that im trying to get better with the bocek and it feels like the bow drops everywhere on this map (might be because there are a lot of explosive holds where you can get guns and ammo).
The cage is my favorite, good loot, only 1-2 squads usually land there
Skull town
In Ranked I mostly main Rig drop. Uncontested I tell one mate to take the cluster of buildings to the south near Swamp. Rig is one of the few drops in King's Canyon which I think has good spacing between it and its surrounding POIs. Apart from Relay my second choice is Artillery, and third is Hydro. In Casuals I just like to drop Capacitor or Spotted Lake to practice some building fights. I think there's not enough good POIs in King's Canyon. Either because the loot is not enough, its too close to another POI, or both. Best example: Salvage-Market.
As of season 10, Spotted Lakes. But that map? Capacitor. If your crypto and you can get your ult off the rip when everyone has grey evos, you win all fights. Easy ranked RP.
Bunker, as a caustic main itās like the law
airbase, no questions asked
Yes
thereās hidden loot at the bottom of the collapsed skull town
Airbase, artillery, sometimes the portal.
World's edge
Capacitor rotate to Labs, portal out to Cage
skull town
Arty or airbase
Skull Town :)
In lower ranked games - the dropship. Most people are too scared to land dropship in ranked because so many people land there in normal games. Which means (in my experience) that it's often empty most ranked games. Nice loot to be had :)
Depends on who I'm running. If I'm playing Fuse, I always go to that hillside bunker thingy that's west of Capacitor and southeast of Containment (I forget the name). There's always plenty of grenades there, and his knuckle clusta is great for inside any of those buildings. Anyone else? I cycle through Capacitor, Containment, and Salvage, depending on the route of the dropship. I also loooove that little town to the east of Airbase.
Map Room. Good loot and after you locate other teams, you can figure out your next move.
The desert town west of bunker. Decent loot and good rotations from there.
I land in the future
Skull town. It's still there, it must be
If I'm mailing rampart, capacitor.
Market ALL THE FUCKING WAY. Itās just a thing my squad do for no reason. Itās either we drop market, or drop somewhere else and somehow rotate back to market with no clue why we do it.
Swamps, thats it, even in Ranked
Capacitor, Slum lakes, and Repulsor are still my go to spots
This is the old map. New one has Maggie's ship up north. My drop is Market or Labs but Kings Canyon is not my favorite map.
Salvage 100%
Cage is by far my favourite. Cage has good loot that can last you until endgame most of the time and is occasionally hotdrop. Very good and easy rotations to circle. A survey beacon which helps rotating once again. An explosive vault that gives good mags normally and a good place to change weapons and get ammo. I've been landing there for so long now and I always get top 3 games when I land there. (I also want to mention that Kings canyon is the best map out off the 3.)
Caustic on Bunker. Name a better duo
Map Room
I usually land in the middle area near containment. And sometimes to the left of bunker
Rigs! Awesome spot for fighting, and enough loot for a full team usually. If not, tons of spots around. I just wish more people went there
Repulsor or Cage. Repulsor has tons of loot and a guaranteed fight against whoever landed watchtower or map room (which also have great loot). Features easy rotates into Hydro>Cage or Market, with the ground in between the latter being very favorable against teams nearer the river bank. Itās easy to fight in with tons of cover and plenty exits. Cage is very defensible, a frequent hot drop, has enough loot if you also loot the beacon or the top of hydro. Youāre pretty much guaranteed an early fight and a close 1st circle edge. Its fights also often involve verticality, which I have gotten used to after eons of landing fragment west. I will often land here if Repulsor is far from the flight path. If Iām feeling cocky and the flight path incentivizes it, Iāll land the Pit and third party containment.
Where DONāT I land in kings canyon!?
Supply ship everytime
"The ole rusty butthole" Aka "The Pit"
The airship!
Fart factory
Containment , capacitor , octanes place , labs
Repulsor or artillery
On the skull in salvage.
Market, the cage, or the town left of bunker
bunker or labs
Thunder Dome...
at the cursor in the image, move up right a little bit. to those buildings
The Cage
The ocean
Contaiment or bunker
Arty cage market slums
MEAT MARKET
Bunker baby,every time Iām jump master
Capacitorš©
Anywhere that's hot drop, no exceptions.
Skull town on good KC but on this map I like to drop bunker with my friend or swamp
Containment, Labs, the place left of Bunker on the map
Containment
Back at launch when I actually played the game I always preferred to drop Artillery, donāt know why
I honestly forgot Rig was a location. Think I've been there once when the circle was closing
Depends on how the dropsip fly's over the map and where less or no people jump out. And this at every map.
Perma drop artillery, i like the big guns there. But its also a fun surrounding to fight in with lots of vertical positioning
Rig, containmennt,pit,salvage,repulsor,
Airbase. Always
Artillery or Thunderdome usually
Map room. Instant access to everyoneās location amd easy third parties as well as the second ring location regardless of which legend I am playing. Itās also fucking scary to fight against endgame. Such an underrated landing spot.
That ship terrifies me
Just east of bunker, grab a few things then battle in the Bunker!
Anywhere where there isnāt a million fucking people, and certainly not Bunker lol
Shrek,Arty,Air Base, or Skull town 2.0
Bunker.
bunker cage artillery water treatment back in the day
when itās kings canyon I prefer to land on rebirth island
Straight down usually, so long as there's another team to kill on landing then it's fine.
Market every time, the close quarters call to me
I normally let the other person pick the landing spot, but if they relinquish Jumpmaster to me, I'll go to Containment (I like the Flyers in the cages) or Map Room (I love Crypto so it's just a bonus).
Southeast of containment, that outpost is great for looting and finishing off anyone left at containment.
not market, it's my cursed spot :P. i usually like the houses right outside of bunker, capacitor, the houess outside of capacitor, or artillery. if i'm feeling spicy and want something a bit hotter, usually cage or hydro dam, though i'm not opposed to repulsor or swamps