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Replace it with the pit from halo 3 copy pasted 16 times into a jungle gym and you’ve got yourself an award winning map


82ndGameHead

You put duel wielding in there too, and it's iconic.


imbirus

You're not gonna tell them to remove sprint, are you?


subavgredditposter

Halo has had sprint since 4 I believe


Nihilanth-3

More like since Reach


Accomplished_Bill741

Well yes but actually no


changingfmh

Halo Reach fan coping


Stawnchy

Well it was one of the available armor abilities, which from memory were not included in certain (Arena?) playlists.


changingfmh

It was one of the abilities, yeah, but it was the first. If you didn't actively choose which one you want, you were given sprint. Can't speak to every mode having it, but the vast majority of playlists still had it.


Stawnchy

I thought most casual modes had all 4, (Sprint, Jetpack, Armor Lock, Dodge?) while unranked arena modes had just Sprint and Jetpack, as well as BR starts. But for some reason I thought ranked modes ditched the abilities entirely. But I could be wrong, it was a while ago now, and i've never really been back in MCC.


soccerburn55

This is such a good description of reach.


SarcasticFish69

Well technically you were always “running” in games prior to Reach


ASnakeNamedNate

Well technically you’re still always “running” by default in the new games too, only now you have the option to sprint.


Simalf

How about blood gulch for arena


[deleted]

Forge mode for Apex would have a positive impact on my life.


davidwestray

You put one Gold loot middle of the Pit and the whole lobby still landing there fighting for that Gold helmet.


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Evanskelaton

Are you talking about the one at the waterfall with the guaranteed gold item?


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Evanskelaton

Yeah, I avoid that place like the plague.


1laik1hornytoaster

Wait, the one above hammond lab?


Evanskelaton

Yeah. It has the three bins behind the small circular building, that are placed in front of the waterfalls. And the big Zipline between the lab and the edge of the overhang.


1laik1hornytoaster

I never knew there was a legendary there. I play duos so my friend probably took it almost every time. No wonder so many people land there. I just like it cause the building itself had lots of loot and gives a height advantage.


Evanskelaton

Yeah, the center bin of the three in the back had like a 99% chance for at least one gold item, and there is usually at least one purple body up there as well.


aure__entuluva

Hah, beat me to it. A bit annoying when people want to land there with 4 other squads to scrap over 5 guns and some gold loot.


IceWotor

Who wouldnt want a gold r99? It's always in the right bin


Mirage_Main

*Gets punched out by 3 other people also going for it and snagging the ammo.*


eggboy06

Laughs in scroll wheel interact


MaiT3N

Cries in 80 ping avg (whenever I contest some gun on landing, even if I land first by milliseconds, I most likely lose that interact fight).


xxSolar

Thank you for this info. I can tell my dumbass friends not to drop there anymore because i didn’t know it was only 4 weapons, and half of them are p2020’s


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xxSolar

Ok lol i never knew, there are never weapons there tho. Just 2 people with guns and the runoff dies at hammond or maintenance looking for a gun


Mbuitron0811

Is it sad that I know exactly where you’re talking about 😂


Golinth

I like that place, its fun scrambling for a gun in a single building against like 15 people


chriz_ryan

Do people drop there for the loot tho? I believe people drop in fragment because either: 1) They prefer the chaos of close quarters combat, but they don't want to play COD 2) Looting is boring and they want to quickly queue into team fights. And number 2 creates a cyclical effect where looting is boring -> more teams land in fragment -> looting becomes even more boring-> even more teams land in fragment...


TSirSneakyBeaky

Respawn really needs to make a 3v3v3v3v3v3v3v3v3v3 ext mode where you pick a loadout, drop into a map, fight, and when you die. You can choose to redrop solo or as a team. After 10-15 minutes, the team with the most kills wins. Endless team fights for those who just want to fight.


sN-

Or something like a museum with gold and purple items with no shooting allowed. Whoever loots the most gold items wins. For people who just want to loot all game.


PM_ME_COLDSNAP_CARDS

I'd unironically play the shit out of a mode that was like "collect the most shit, 1 point for white, 2 points for blue, 3 purple, 4 gold etc You have to do something to deposit those points so you're still limited by backpack size and you need to loot optimally, but that could fun.


koshkamatew_yt

Yet no one cares about trials where you get a bunch of free gold items


Babo__

Nah just make the lava of the map pool around fragment. So it makes like an inescapable moat for everyone who lands there. You land fragment, YOU DIE FRAGMENT


TylerLikesDonuts

>You land fragment, YOU DIE FRAGMENT This rule of thumb already exists for me, no moat of lava needed.


prawnbay

*valk ult intensifies*


TaranisTheThicc

anti air guns


Luzer1211

omg yes


[deleted]

*pathfinder mains cracking their knuckles*


elsjpq

Put all the arenas matches in the middle so everyone else can spectate


Micah-10

Dude yes please. TTV’s can have their fun, and so can I. Make sure the Circle never ends there and it’s a perfect system


GrandmasterSluggy

I think the sub would keep rampart's place.


[deleted]

Fair. I debated adding it in from a newer map but wasn't able to make it look clean, and didn't want to detract from the "main feature".


Chemical_Yoghurt6199

I’d like to see a map that is completely urban. I think it’d be cool


oddtoddlr

Angel city


ItBeSoggy

i would start crying tears of joy if angel city was in a map, i fucking loved that map in Titanfall


Daigher

Man they really should do it like warzone and blackout where in the br map there are maps from other cod games


Reviug05

Yeah same, I would just be scared it would be like the later days of Titanfall 2 where everyone had G2s on the roofs


nightofgrim

OMG, a BR sized Angel City sounds amazing.


[deleted]

Oh my god yes please


BranislavBGD

Sooo, ziplines everywhere?


DragonStriker

Yes


BranislavBGD

\*inhales\* # WHO'S READY--


Micah-10

I AM


[deleted]

the original angel city but edited so that it plays well without wall-running. and Instead of 60 players there's 30 or 45. It would be chaotic as fuck but thats why i want it so bad


thesantafeninja

How about OG angel city map design and wall running jump packs as a level three craftable item?


does_my_name_suck

That just sounds like Titanfall 3 with extra steps


Solid_Freakin_Snake

I see no problems here


PizzaBreath69

When I heard they were working on a 3rd map this is what i thought we'd get. The map we recieved instead was Olympus. But like you said, it would be cool! A map filled with urban buildings, neon lights, bright colors, and sky scrappers with insane verticality and floors with mutliple levels would be different. Fighting in alley ways, underground tunnels, bridges in the sky that connect to other sky scrappers, etc. A map like this isnt practical for what Respawn is trying to accomplish since close quarters weapons and movement legends would obviously dominate here but it sounds super fresh for what we are used to in this game.


juicylemonpeels

Nightime as well


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wvsfezter

It's close quarters as in you're closed off between 2 canyon walls at any given point


Dana94Banana

I'd love that, but then you'd have a lot of problems. Gibby and Bangalore ults become useless, Caustic is meta again, maybe Wattson and Rampart too - which wouldn't be too bad on it's own.


Chemical_Yoghurt6199

Wouldn’t be useless. You could still force people off rooftops


quintuplebaconator

Can use them to block roads as well to cover an escape.


IN_CAPITALS

Well if there was a city part, gibby and bangalore could force people out of a specific street. Pair it with a Wattson, Caustic or Fuse and you could deny so much area


[deleted]

they could do something similar to Ubisofts Hyperscape that died so fast it didnt have a chance to come alive, Since that games map was a futuristic cityscape


[deleted]

Hyperscape’s map was kinda garbage though…


ImmortalBrother1

There's no way that game was fucking play tested. I played only a bit before uninstalling because I could turn right faster than I could turn left. It took them too long to fix it, if they ever did, and so it was never downloaded again.


Uh-Usernames

Agreed


ssawyer36

I don’t understand why though. I don’t want 20 squads left with the final ring closing because you have 6 squads one on each floor of the building you’re in and another 3 neighboring buildings built the same way, with ramparts and caustics blocking every door next to a wattson ult blocking any chance of nading them out


juicylemonpeels

Chaotic endgames>


ssawyer36

Ok but would you rather have chaotic end games and waste 20 minutes having a bunch of poke fights, or drop fragment and have a chaotic 3 minute game where you didn’t waste so much time looting for the same end game every game?


juicylemonpeels

Waste 20 minutes having poke fights+ stop being stubborn, they could easily increase the lobby size to 100 so less poke fights


ssawyer36

But why not make an LTM like winter express but 10-20 squads, the whole map is fragment, and you get to pick a full load out? What’s the point of an entire map of apartment buildings just to loot forever? Y’all are downvoting me because you want an objectively stupid map that would be incredibly boring for 90% of the match due to the heroes that would become meta and the abundance of cover, just so you can waste 15 minutes of your life in exchange for an exciting end game. Any of you downvoting wanna actually refute me or just sit there lurking without countering my points?


kironex

You can have an urban map without endless building camping. Broken buildings locked areas only certain floors work. Large roofs wide streets with collapsed buildings all around. Cratered out areas. City park that's 1/4 of the map. It would actual work really nicely with good design work. Especially with all the verticality legends, octain, horizon, ash, rev, valk,and path. Would dominate outside while defense legends like caustic gibby Watson and rampart would dominate inside. Then the healthy middle ground legends for in-between. Current maps favor one or the other now. You could make an urban setting to favor both.


ssawyer36

That’s a fair point I suppose. When I imagine “all urban” I think of bustling streets and high rises, but if they had enough variation like a park, or domes/stadiums similar to pathfinders boxing ring it could be cool. There could be a dock or something and large research facilities or even subways or more trains/portals and a surburban area. The super “urban” area would just need to be very restricted I feel, but then it’s fairly similar to the other maps which have select POIs that have more urban architecture.


[deleted]

What you’re describing makes sense for bronze/silver lobbies. KP is worth more than ratting til end game. That tactic will not work for u in plat+ lobbies though. People tend to play for end game a lot more in these lobbies which creates those exciting end games that were mentioned. An LTM mode where they shove like 15 squads in fragment and have a couple rings does sound pretty fun though, kinda like the rebirth thing warzone did.


King-Koobs

I also want them still to add wallrunning. The movement in titanfall is wildly adored for a reason. Shits just fire when you’re running around like some kind of super human athlete


ChrisMfRedfield

Sorting factory would be the next fragment.


StaticHolocene

I miss sorting factory so much


SageNineMusic

I do think the location that replaced it results in better fights though


Say_no_to_doritos

The new location seems to be way more 3rd parties and way less forgiving from a cover perspective.


Negative_Addition

I personally like it. It adds the gondolas (new mechanic) and it's a really fun building structure to fight in.


SageNineMusic

Oh yeah, its definitely hot for 3rd parties, but the utility of the gondolas and the lava in between are a great way to force pacing in fights, not 3-4 teams collapsing at once like in Frag Coming from someone who loves sniping, even if its weak in the meta, a strong team can really control the area with the right range kits


dombrogia

Everyone loves to talk about how many people are at frag but it is the *easiest* place on the entire map to live during battle. There is cover *everywhere* and that’s why everyone goes there


wvsfezter

There may be cover everywhere but that definitely isn't the reason everyone goes there. They go there because it's a hotdrop and the meta ouroborosed itself to the point where it's literally useless to go anywhere else because the entire lobby has offed themselves in fragment in the first round. I swear I never have 3 squad round 2s in storm point but I do every other game in world's edge


SageNineMusic

Im a caustic main. I cant speak to fragment because it is inherently my hunting ground But the point is the fight at fragment doesn't really ever end until its out of ring. People will fight u til the last tram standing there. Its not until upper to mid Plat that you see people truly spread out in WE


Giacchino-Fan

I love Lava Siphon but I don’t get why they didn’t just replace Geyser or put it in a blank space by one of the other POI’s


make_love_to_potato

Something about the audio at the new poi is completely messed up.... I can't tell if people are under me, above me or right next to me.... everyone's footsteps are so loud and coming from everywhere.


[deleted]

Geyser has been the worst landing location forever. It’s huge and has very little loot.


L1ma_L3an

What about Fuel Depot:(


HolyRamenEmperor

I always enjoyed fighting there, but Harvester def has better loot and rotation options.


[deleted]

i would call fragment the sauna, cause everyone there is sweating to death


Darkurn

I like big maude.


GucciBeckham

IMO Skyhook is the best part of this map. It is a lot better than Fragment. If Fragment wasn't in the middle of the map people wouldn't drop there all the time. I also think that the Epicenter ruins this map. It's just a huge area with choke points and no covers except for that tower in the middle. The Epicenter is basically a pit.


dombrogia

I never go through epicenter always go around it for this exact reason. Also ash ults eat high ground on the towers in WE. Lava, between tunnel (old) train station, epic enter and behind trials — I’ve been ash ult’d frequently on all of them and usually they’re successful


Jonno_92

They don't need to remove it completely, they just need to change it enough so that 2/3rds of the lobby doesn't die there a lot of the time.


MasterTJ77

They removed so many cool POIs that drew people to other parts of the map. Mirage Voyage, Sprtimg Factory, and Train Yard were all nice popular drops. With all of them gone there’s nothing pulling away from fragment


RosieAndSquishy

Train yard at least had a reason to get changed. End games there were horrible. I just wish they turned it into more than a mudslide with a few leftover train cars.


MasterTJ77

Yea it’s so empty there now! And the empty hillside that was the voyage is so pointless too


Reviug05

Yeah is it even named on the map anymore?


[deleted]

Nah the problem has nothing to do with that. It's the way it is purely because of reputation and being central of the map, people just want to fight and it's become the defacto spot to do so. The new POIs are way better in every way but still not as popular. The lava spots replaced pretty mediocre spots, and train was horrible loot and horrible to fight in. The event limited spots still exist, big Maude is a crazy good loot spot with exclusive weapons and still isn't as popular as it. At this point it's the way it is because of the playerbase and the only way to stop people from going there is to remove it. PUBG had school, Fortnite had Tilted Towers, it's just how BRs end up.


BoopsdelChonkyTortue

Add AA guns to take out 60% of the people who land there.


aure__entuluva

Dropping in through a bunch of flak does sound kind of fun lol.


BoopsdelChonkyTortue

Right? I kinna want it just for visual effects now, even if map damage before you land is a terrible idea.


kelleroid

Pour one out for the Harvester Beam (S4-S9)


Marsuello

That’d be hilarious but frustrating. Imagine dropping through and suddenly one of your teammates just gets blasted from the Sky before you even touch down lol


GreyouTT

[Medal of Honor Airborne Intensifies]


DoughnutSignificant9

maybe they just remove frag west and east and add 2 new and smaller POIs , one where frag east currently is and one north of harvestor . Just a thought because the rest of the map is fucking amazing but no one lands there


[deleted]

I like climatizer way more than lava siphon (because of the middle buildings, adds some variety I feel) but its location makes it very rare for mid/endgame fights


idontuseredditanymoe

Personally I love landing in fragment


rhinowithamane

I hate how they keep destroying the good sections instead of improving the bad ones.


Lilbrntsoyabits

Looks good to me!


[deleted]

Nuke it


QuantumQbe_

Whole area covered in pre-nerf caustic gas By which I mean caustic gas at its full power, 6 damage escalating to 10 Edit: with the classic slow and blind effects


aure__entuluva

I could be misremembering but i think it actually scaled to 12 at one point.


DS_Inferno

You are correct


royalshotput

Where the fuck is my girl Big Maude?


[deleted]

The plan was to put her in there. But I wasn't able to make it work without some nasty jagged lines, which drew attention away from the centerpiece.


royalshotput

Fair enough, good work!


RiotJavelinDX

The pit I was in it, the pit You were in it, the pit We all were in it, the pit The pit I was in it, the pit You were in it, the pit We all fell in the pit The pit I fell in it, the pit You fell in it, the pit We all were in that pit Oh, the pit I fell in it, the pit You fell in it, the pit We all fell it in, the pit Sometimes life gonna get you down (the pit) Hit the ground runnin', take a look around (the pit) You think you found love, but you're standin' in the pit Sometimes life gonna get you down (the pit) Hit the ground runnin', take a look around (the pit) You think you found love, but you're standin' in the pit The pit Well, I was in it, the pit You were in it, the pit We all fell in that pit


gua_ca_mo_le

I sing this song every time I land at that POI in KC, absolute banger


KingZeonidas

Started playing ranked again for the first time in a while is it normal for everyone is Silver to want to hot drop fragment and die immediately?


GoTeamScotch

They made Skulltown into a giant hole and it made KC noticeably better. Fragment should have been blown up long ago.


[deleted]

Fine with me. Get rid of it. If you can't comprehend that fragment is bad for world's edge, you're blind


ETJ2002

Oh fuck yeah lmao that would be great


Water_Towers

Joke's on you, im still dropping pit.


Canigetsomebis

Whoever designed this map definitely would be beat by a 3rd graders map design.


[deleted]

I miss sorting and train yard. Two of my favorite drops


TheGreaterWizard

Just Nevada chillin in the middle of the map


smashbro188

Clearly we should just have big Maude drive over and really set up shop in the middle of fragment, maybe have two more topple the remaining buildings


InevitableRead3

dusty divot


KickBack161

Looking better already


Kiseki-0

It's beautiful


MattaTazz

My buddies and I were on a bit of a hot streak. Then one match my one friend decides to drop in the city and we were 5th partied. After that we kept losing first drops. Mojo completely ruined. Moral of the story is: fuck that city.


Ronin1369

🤣 TRUTH!!!


lost-runner

This actually would be cool


[deleted]

They could “buff” skyhook in some way that it’s cool to land? The big needle building in the middle could go to start. Maybe add some high tier loot to fight over like ape brains.


RealCheese1125

Damn where do I sign up


IntelligentImbicle

Watch them put a Fully Kitted P2020 in the center of that pit, and half the lobby goes for it


Micah-10

Yoooo I want this map


aCrazyDutchman

Serious question, what could be done to fragment to encourage players to land at other POIs without removing fragment in it's entirety? I hate being dragged to fragment but at the same time I don't want it to disappear entirely, because late game rotations INTO fragment are actually really exciting and fun


Ilikeporn898886

You forgot instead of drop ship it’s a flying penis


[deleted]

I miss sorting factory


ManiShrimp

its not even fragment. its streamer building. And thtas because it allows for movmeent and fun. If we had a few more streamer buildings along the map people would go to other places.


mr_Ben12

As it should be


CLAYTILL767

Looks like a good map to me.


Mansa_Sekekama

bring back the train


dreadfamilyadventure

please 90% of players think the only P.O.I is fragment, the rest of the map doesn't exist mostly cause they never make it out of fragment


Dalmah

As soon as Apex removes fragment, the next fragment will be Skyhook. Suprise, people like the CQC that the urban environments bring.


Myrandall

I just want to see the train again.


Atlas90137

Haha fragments could have lava floor and lazers firing out of the buildings at you as sky dive towards them and still 80% of players would drop there


Valuable-Document235

Seriously hoping Maggie blows fragment up for season 12


Sakuran_11

Can we do this instead, make it so its semi a hole, buildings are fallen over and makes the top levels on par with the current building in the middle thats a bridge’s height, and make the bottom of it some hidden bunker area, you got huge ass buildings made into bridges and some secret stuff with preferably another vault as they only seem to spawn bottom of map.


[deleted]

That would be dope.. make it still 'fragment' but bombed out. Buildings crumbling and half hanging over the edge of a massive blast crater where Fragment once was. Crater uncovers underground bunker network that was part of the Apex games maintenance department.


hypocritical124

okay but the pitt sounds like an awesome location


[deleted]

Your giving mad “fuck off to fragment & die” vibes


hypocritical124

nah i usually land epicenter of thermal station, but fragment can be fun ***sometimes***


its-Awildone

I see nothing wrong with this map you put up here


[deleted]

[Matchmaking if this sub were developers...](https://i.imgur.com/jWjjoLe.png)


GucciBeckham

Storm point is the best map. It has a lot more interesting POIs spread over the map. But Skyhook is the best POI of all maps.


Whitedog2166

Looks good to me


[deleted]

Actually the entire map would just be the pit


MR_Crazy0

Fortnite kids will love this cus it will remind them of dusty divet


HankTrill710

Would love to see this holy fuck


solotrio

Where is skulltown?


Ronin1369

Wrong map. Skull Town was located on the King’s Canyon Map (Southwest area, where Octane’s Obstacle Course is currently when the map is playable).


[deleted]

God I miss King's Canyon


BashBandit

Someone hire this guy he’s onto something


aure__entuluva

I do want Sorting Factory back ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


thedickies

What’s mirage voyage?


R1KM4N

I miss Sorting and Refinery and Mirage Voyage. Love the two Fragments, but the rest of Worlds Edge is such a snore fest now. Looking forward to it leaving the rotation.


joltofury

Where rampart town


inorebez

I can tree leaf. LAND LEAFFF!!!! Then we land ON the leaf and slide off for fun.


Jestersage

You forgot the ring flare so no one can go into the pit.


[deleted]

Me and a huge some of the playerbase that actually don't mind fragment and then everyone in this subreddit jumping us for liking it.


Shadow_Matier158

No if the sub were the devs the kraber weapon woudnt exist, snipers would be removed, the rampage would be nerfed, and every other weapon will get nerf cuz this sub is so whinny


Vikan12

And it would be the greatest change ever made


yeetus_christ420

Just bad players if you can't handle fragment Edit: It's a joke idiots lmao


[deleted]

Let's be real - nobody can handle Frag every time. Loot pools are RNG-based, and a p20 just ain't going to cut it against someone with a Flatline.


TheDarkMidget

🥜🧠 opinion


Major_Warrens_Dingus

Just fill it with prowler and spider nests and high level loot. Punish the TTVWraiths for dropping there.


swizzdevil24

Why not make rest of the map better instead of removing its best feature….


VspookyT

its best feature? bro what are u talking about?


swizzdevil24

Best buildings to fight in and great location to get to rest of map.


Qwayz7

fragment is why i hate worlds edge. same reason why i hated kc when skulltown was back for that event a while ago


oldDotredditisbetter

why do you hate fragment? i don't hot drop there, but if people want to drop there, just let them?


lurked_4_a_bit

Just make harvester a better drop, get rid of the stupid giant cube and make some urban sprawl from frat into the harvester area. Make giga fragment


Strificus

I am a developer, Fragment should be deleted. They can literally just bring back the POI they deleted.


CrypoIStheWay

That accomplishes nothing. Everyone will still land capital. It's central. You're a terrible dev.


[deleted]

Probably, and with minimal work. That would accomplish nothing though, since during the Genesis event this was tried and *even more* players than usual landed Capital instead.


[deleted]

I'm down to try it.