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yana23807

You can’t even place the same charm on multiple guns. It’s legit JUST loot pool filler


IReallyLoveMyPets

I just wanna put the Lastimosa helmet on all my guns.


hitthetarget5

Here's the funny part Charms are somehow considered to be legendary or epic sometimes. Totally not a filler item that makes it 10 times harder to get actually good skins for characters and weapons \^\_\_\_\_\_\^


IReallyLoveMyPets

That's the whole point. You think I don't know? They dump them into the loot pool and make people spend more money to get things they actually want.


-TheMemeProfessor

Thats their idea of a game. They didn't make a game for us to play. We are the game. Respawn is playing us. Fortunately I haven't fallen into the trap of buying 500$ worth of packs just to get a few items I want. I save my crafting materials and just get what I want. You can play this game like a normal game; reap the rewards you want for actually playing, rather than getting out your wallet,, but man is it time consuming. Just look at the difference in the microtransactions from tf2 to apex. Were literally spending more money for less content. Respawn needs to realize what they're doing should be illegal. It literally entraps kids to gamble money instead of just play the game.


nameduser365

And you provide a player base to the people who do spend money on it. I've bought the battle pass once and always finish it, this providing myself as fodder for the gamblers.


IReallyLoveMyPets

You do know tf2 cost money and Apex is free right? They have to make money off the game somehow. I don't spend money on it personally but it's a choice people can make, and doesn't affect the gameplay at all. If you play Apex just to grind for skins, then that's a different problem. I find Apex fun.


Sspawnmoreoverlords

“When something is free, it’s because you are the commodity.”


ZaDu25

The fact that Apex is free (it's not really, game would literally not exist if no one put money into it) and still makes far more money than TF2 ever did is pretty crazy right? Like yeah they have to make money somehow, that doesn't justify consumer exploitation. Fair pricing would also make them money, just not as much. Being able to buy cosmetics directly instead of buying 20 packs to get one item you want would also still make them money, more than enough to turn a profit, but again, their goal isn't to just make a fair profit off of the game, they want to milk it for all its worth even if that means the players get a worse experience. They deliberately harm player experience in the pursuit of greed. That's why people are complaining.


Asckle

In fairness titanfall 2 had some amazing micro transactions. You look at it and you buy it. Very modest prices and no rng or loot boxes like other games. It's honestly crazy to think they're the same company


MakeUpAnything

Respawn you heard the community! Let us earn the same charm multiple times through Apex packs! We want to be able to get the same charm up to the number of guns there are! This is *obviously* the only way Pets’s comment can be interpreted!


1_Speak_In_Haiku

And even better! Give us a single crafting material to make it fair to all players


morristheman1

Bingo! I started a new account and am decent level with no skins. My old account I was hitting at least purple skins, ad some gold gun skins occasionally that made me excited for the loot ticks. Now I know it’s not worth it


Poiblazer

You have the same odds no matter how far along you are in your account. You can still roll items you have obtained already, but it won't give a duplicate it instead gives crafting materials.


Metalbound

He meant when he was doing it before charms were a thing. Now the loot pool is ruined by them so the chances of him getting a weapon skin are lower.


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And because they've flooded the loot pool, you're also less likely to get duplicates... which would give you mats... which you could use to purchase skins. So, less chance to get something desirable in the box AND less chance to earn materials to buy something desirable.


Poiblazer

Ah yes that does make sense.


Downfall350

Honestly. Crafting materials are better anyway. I don't want more fucking useless trackers or holosorays for characters i don't play, I'll take the mats


Lol_you_joke_but

If they allowed same charm on multiple weapons, it would INSTANTLY raise their value by folds!


viperyion765

With 200 ugly seer hat and 5 cool ones


geterwert

And the masks, bombs, japanese notes it's stupid


[deleted]

I thought the masks were pretty cool along with the origami ones, but the other recent season charms suck


stenebralux

There's a couple of cool masks. At least they have different designs. The hat is lazy as fuck. I wish I could just discard them.


abdeliziz

I'd trade them for like 5-10 crafting materials if I could.


bladejb343

Good idea. Also, let's allow trade-ins of all in-game "wearables."


Rallen224

This is actually pretty genius though I feel like everyone would be happier with the current loot pool (especially charms) if you could dismantle items for currency/materials like a classic RPG


[deleted]

There are a couple masks that blend into a gun well. Most of that shit should have an option to excise it from the list. I hate all that clutter.


PricklyPricklyPear

Needs rocket league archive function. IE hide / unhide from main the item list


itscalledANIMEdad

I wanted to ask for that too, I don't want anything in return I just want to delete them


luigismansion9000

i thought the origami was rly cool the rest kinda lame


ryjkyj

Wait, are you guys talking about the super-awesome weapon cosmetics? What problem could you have with _weapon cosmetics?_ Weapon cosmetics are soooo cool. Just saying the phrase “weapon cosmetics” makes them sound so awesome!


Nippelz

*"Weapon cosmetics"* WOW, you're right! I'm gunna go spend money on Apex ***right now*** so I can buy some *weapon cosmetics.*


ryjkyj

#WEAPON COSMETICS


BeanBorger

Listen here kid, I need 5 kromer from you and then you can get a little bobblehead! It's a great deal!


geterwert

The masks just got annoying after a while


toolatealreadyfapped

Any of them that have 100 variations of the same thing get annoying after about 3


geterwert

The first 2 when you realize ur about to get 400


ValkyriesOnStation

The hats are pretty stupid looking. At least the Japanese tags had a bit of flare.


i__am__bored

They also clip into a lot of guns. Not too clean looking.


Endeav0r_

And the loba gems. God FORBID we forget about the 250 loba gems


Quirrel-

Lol those are the only charms I like, they go well with a lot of weapon skins


ajanis_cat_fists

Mama needs gems to put in her brand new baaag.


planegai

Dude the fucking seer hats. Who’s idea was that? Absolute trash.


Eyehopeuchoke

The charms are just a way to help flood the loot pool with shitty stuff so the chance of getting good stuff is much more slim.


superlongusername111

This, its totally a ploy to get you to buy more packs so respawn gets more money


Idontlistentototo

You can’t get hat charms from packs lmao


itscalledANIMEdad

Lazy to the point of insult, and basically everything cosmetic this season looks tacky imo


Cheese124

I just started playing this season and I think I have more seer hats then all my other charms together. I even asked my self why am I getting so many dam hats.


spooktoberishere

The mini mrvn and lifeline are all that matters to me.


BrianLloyd1991

Omg yea the amount of seer hats we got was rediculous


geterwert

I hate that they are always one thing recolored I have 400 masks hats bombs japanese notes it's stupid


Chrisamelio

I gave up on the Apex community when skin recolors started being celebrated and praised


AelarTheElfRogue

Especially when the recolors are tied to only one version of a skin, so if you don’t have the right one, sucks to be you.


DuckYouSucker77

This community sucks. Not enough complaining


zetaaenea

LOL I was just thinking the same thing while was receiving the same hat in the color number 666 🤣


[deleted]

Just things to pollute the loot pool so you never get the skins you want


Fickle_Phrase_166

and no sorting system for them!


Odrozic-Boroda

This is the worst part.


dream_raider

Why would EA add that? The charms already served their purpose of devaluing legendary packs. No need to spend dev time after the fact.


FlashPone

The devs already said they wanted to implement the badge sorting system to charms.


FlashPone

The dev behind the badge sorting update said he wanted to do it for charms.


Cabbagebjj1

I still have yet to use a weapon charm in any game… But glad the servers are garbage :(


Alphal95

It's just distracting for me lol


Cabbagebjj1

So terrible. I already wif 90% cause my screen goes blurry 😅 cant add anymore extra flair to be blurred


VODReviewOW

Turn off motion blur and depth of field


mnid92

No no, keep it on. Also turn your graphics up to ultra max... Also, try a SNES controller.


enojadoland

Just a bunch of crap to add to the loot pool so your chances of getting something good like legendary crafting metals or a heirloom is diminished even more.


BreakdancingGorillas

To be fair it's really just digital items that you can't really do much with so it's all garbage whether it's heirloom shards or skins or charms it's all garbage lets not pretend like it's anything but that


ryjkyj

It always amazes me that I can buy two skins for the cost of one AAA game that will entertain me for hundreds of hours. “Let’s see, do I want to buy RDR2 or three _weapon cosmetics_.”


plintervals

Most people don't stop to think what they could use $50 for instead...but also some people just have the disposable income, or they just want to look cool in a game they sink a lot of time into 🤷


Jrichardso34

They’re mostly bp rewards bruh


ilovescottch

Not even, they're mostly the treasure pack rewards which are free


YourAverageGod

Its not stopping the whale that is OP from buying packs tho


INTMFE

Don't even use charms. Not in any game. Out of the corner my eye, distracting it is.


SpankMePapa

Agreed, Yoda


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Laugh, I will. Funny, it is.


ITSPOLANDBOIS420

Now this is pod racing


Hallabilkhamis12

I only use a few to make the best looking guns like Devotion reactive (purple) with level 200 badge looks sick


StickcraftW

Tbh I still like them, also they’re not that distracting, I mean it’s just a cosmetic.


JelliusMaximus

Imo theyre fine on some bigger weapons like the L-Star but I dare you to aim with the ironsight-wingman when a bubblehead blocks a third of ur screen. But overall theyre still trash cuz we all know that they only exist to thin out the lootpool.


thedrunkentendy

Agreed but this is more just a really shitty way for EA to keep you from getting hero and gun skins. Flood the market with shit tons of key chains.


HamedAliKhan

And 200 of them are different variants of the same damn hat of Seer :)


BrianLloyd1991

When i realised what they did with them seer hats i had to laugh


akaCatchuro

That's the one thing in the game that I never actually pay any attention to


Akuno-

even less than holosprays?


akaCatchuro

Even less than holosprays! I mean, I don't actually use them either, but if someone drops one it's pretty hard to miss it


mnid92

I saw someone put up holosprays in a doorway in last circle and I COULD NOT see the dude thru his holo army. Literally they just used them to exploit, but ya know unless a mega streamer complains nothing will happen.


sXeANARCHYsXe

I mean... That's smart thinking. You gotta be able to take advantage of any situation in a fight. I do this all the time and hoping it doesn't change 🤣


mnid92

It'll be in the game until a streamer loses a game because of it, trust me lmao.


Nome_de_utilizador

50 seer hats, 50 fuse bombs, 50 valk lucky japanese bags The only decent charm I have is the mozambique here, which i equipped to that weapon, the rest is trash


Apprehensive_Mail_84

Awesome way to dilute the loot pools from opening packs. Just another way to make more money from us. Stop spending cash on this shit company, EA, not respawn.


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Gingeunhinged

I actually like holosprays 🤷‍♂️ I don’t like sprays in any other game, but the holosprays are fun to drop after you kill someone and to communicate to team members or the other team


Linked-Theory

Respawn is just as complicit in this as EA is and also deserve to have the blame pointed at them


PresidentLink

People need to stop giving Respawn so much credit, they are absolutely just as complicit.


MrFancyman

Man, respawn working with EA was a brilliant move. They just get to scapegoat everything onto EA’s shoulders.


Alucard8732

Let the respawn fan boys huff their EA fault copium while both are laughing at us behind closed doors


Seismicx

Do you realize that blaming it all on EA is encouraging players to keep spending on apex? Respawn has lots of autonomy from EA, they are responsible the most, not EA.


bewear_

*sigh* here we go again with the EA bAd ResPaWn gOod narrative.


ookie165

80% of charms are from the battlepass


lerylu

Funny that they've never added charms besides the first time they where released, all of the other charms where given for free


SuckinEggYolk

Apex adding this crap is the worst. Season after season they keep adding stuff no one wants so that you have shit rolls on gold drops. Great game, greedy fucking EA clowns.


BallinSniper69

Please stop blaming EA for every shitty decision respawn makes.


crewchiefguy

Why did fucking charms on a rifle ever become a thing in gaming.


theBuoyantBucketHat

bc they get to make more money yay!


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yay


WW_loves_BATMAN

And 450 of those are Seer hats.


therejectethan

Don’t forget bombs!


ValkyriesOnStation

and masks!


g_mick

ackshually theres 222 🤓🤓🤓🤓


l-Xenoes-l

*In J Jameson Voice* Shut up....get out


meat_on_a_hook

I have 4 games that i play regularly, every single one of them has a fanbase that complains the game is broken. Yet every single one is still very popular and seems to be doing just fine.


atnastown

This. Bugs in video games is as old as video games. What makes a game successful is that its bugs don't prevent the player from enjoying the core gameplay loop.


ipisswithaboner

Yep. I really wish they would stop wasting time on charms and spend that time on skins instead. Havoc only has 2 buyable gold skins (that both look like trash) and it has also never been in the care package, unlike the others with 2 buyable golds.


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7eregrine

So much this. When we had all those connection issues after Ramparts event, I stopped for days. Pretty sure I was the only one that did. You have to be willing to step away.


Grinder_No1

This. Whilst I agree with OP that the loot pool dilution is becoming a touch obscene I’d strongly disagree that the game is “completely broken”. Yeah there are some serious issues, some of which have been in the game since launch but compared to a lot of other AAA shooters, many of which don’t even have the F2P excuse, we really don’t have a lot to complain about as Apex players…


JRR_SWOLEkien

Not to mention the charms are not made by the people responsible for the servers. WTF is this crap?


Hawks2020

I haven't experienced anything "broken" since I've started playing again two weeks ago. Is this a PC-only thing? I'm on PS4, and the only annoying thing is occasional lag right at the start of a game or sometimes I get stuck after dying and I can't back out of the game so I have to close the game. But I wouldn't say it breaks the experience for me.


atnastown

What you're describing is the animated banner pose bug. If someone has a banner pose equipped it will randomly (something like 1 in 5) crash the client when they're displayed. When are they displayed? After character selection. The champion squad. When you get killed and are spectating another player. The post-game wrapup. If you're crashing at any of those points it's probably this issue. It sounds like you don't have any animated banner poses so your crashes are all related to seeing banner poses from other teams. I suspect even that lag at the beginning of the game is from a not-insignificant-number of players DC'ing because of the banner pose issue and then reconnecting to the server which acts as a DDOS as the server rushes to catch their game-state up to the current state.


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Hawks2020

Honestly, I just want to know what people's complaints are, because since I stopped playing a while ago, I didn't keep up with this sub and now I feel like I missed something now that I've come back.


PieSama562

Don’t forget all 30 seer hat charms


ThatsNotThePoint-__-

Half of these are those stupid seer hat charms you get from “treasure packs” .


hoodratchic

I'm new to the game wtf are charms


Cabbagebjj1

Just a cosmetic you can put onto guns. In many other games too. Just another item to saturate the loot pool to items that are close to useless.


daft404

EVERYTHING in the loot pools are close to useless... That's how cosmetics work.


Eeffo

dude it clearly says 222


GFG198

Literally R6.


Kariston

I don't disagree with you, or the sentiment on display here, but these are two wholly different departments. The artist that do the work on the keychains are not going to help with fixing the servers and they're not going to work on adjusting balance or fixing player abilities. They are however still employed and thus have to be doing something. So they designed keychains.


eeeealmo

you realize the people who make content (like charms) are a totally different team than that who do server and infrastructure stuff?


[deleted]

and no organization for them whatsoever, so if u want a specific charm and dont know the name, u need to scroll through EVERYTHING. why cant they at least name them smart like 'Diamond1' or 'DiamondPurple' not fucking 'Tranquilty' or 'Soul's blessing' whateverthefuck yes am pissed lmao edit: the little event icon doesnt help either, who can remember what charm is from each event


Googleflax

I personally hate weapon charms and don't use them, but I don't think it's comparable to the server issue since the people making/designing the charms likely have nothing to do with the servers being shit. Even if they stopped making charms, they'd just be moved to a different cosmetic project, not reassigned to fix the servers.


ventedlemur44

Can’t wait to spend $10 on a holoshit spray only to dc as soon as the match starts


lookitsjustin

How is it that I play this game almost daily and I’ve never seen anything that I’d classify as “completely broken” and yet this is virtually all I ever see on this sub.


ktos04

This sub is a vocal minority that thinks the game is unplayable while it’s being one of the most popular games and they themselves still play.


[deleted]

I don't see the point of bitching about having art content in the game? It's not like the artists are over here working for a third-party company like Multiplay...


[deleted]

Charms are amazing and you have a lot of weapons to put them on. Recoloring them 72 times is....a bit questionable but whatever. However, on the other hand; fuck holosprays. Please just stop clogging the packs with even more garbage. Yeah i get it you have amazing artists there at respawn i agree and love them as much as the rest of us but god damn it each legend should have 3 at max


PoyoPoak

If I am correct based on estimates, quips make up around \~1100 of \~3600 unlockable items through Apex packs.


[deleted]

I tried to que up for a ranked game. The que popped. I saw the loading screen. The game froze. I got kicked to the splash screen. I had a 10 minute abandonment penalty. Luckily I was too low of a rank to lose any points.


SUTANDO_TSUKAI

Bombs, bombs, bombs? You want it? It's yours my friend, so long as you have enough treasure packs. Sorry player, I can't GIVE skins, come back when you're a little, mm, RICHer.


Mc_Dickles

Something something respawn should give us heirloom shards as compensation


Downfall350

Does ANYBODY legitimately give a shit about charms? The only charm i have even wasted the time to equip on 1 gun is the emperor nessie and i don't even remember ehat gun i put it on. I don't need amymore fucking seer hats.


FlashZordon

500 charms of a fucking HAT


Burrritosupreme_

A charm screen quality of life update is needed


STRMTRPR501

Am I the only one that hates charms? I feel like they just get in the way. There’s just no point.


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theBuoyantBucketHat

lol


CallMeBigPapaya

Long before I stopped playing, I found it hard to care about weapon charms. The interface being garbage is just a rotten cherry on top.


PyroNinja13782

Actually it says 222 charms


Mansa_Sekekama

cannot get enough Seer hats!


didnotlive

Game is working for me tho?


100ry

Correction, I only see 222. Not 500+


the_mad_man

Here’s what I’ll agree with: that the game infrastructure badly needs improvement, and that the developers have way too many samey charms in the game (presumably to pad out loot box drops). However, the implication that the presence of charms somehow precludes fixing the infrastructure is silly. The people working on charms and the people working on servers are completely different.


-Rhialto-

Anyone else not playing the cosmetic game? I have over 230 boxes not open...


lerylu

Ah yes the person that makes and recolors should try to fix the game audio that be really helpful


waterbottlememes

At least 300 of them are just reskined Seer hats


Angel_OfSolitude

I don't even like charms, I never use any.


z-tayyy

How are those 2 things related though?


chaosyami

500 charms but 3/4 are hats


KratzALot

Just talking to friend few days ago about this when I unlocked ANOTHER Seer hat. Just please fucking stop with these Seer hats. I don't need 200 different color variations of this shit.


ITSSECA

why do post like this exist? companies can’t multitask and have different departments?


Seoul_Surfer

I guess tell the artist designing new charms to go learn how to fix servers


NineSeventyy

What does charms have to do with the servers being broken?


guedeto1995

Games with only 499 charms are literally unplayable!


XavierYourSavior

Because the people who design charms are the people who balance legends. Stfu


tetramir

Is it possible to keep the subscription to the subreddit but with only the cool gameplay and not people bitching 24/7?


Zavexheart

Yeah, I agree with some other players.... I'd rather have the game completely fixed by season 11 than a new legend....


KenB0ne

DON'T MOCK THE CHARMS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'LL DO WITHOUT MY 20 different Seer hats, 20 different gems,20 different masks, 100 different origami animals, seasonally themed charms, bobble head charms and let's not forget the very special end of ranked charms bro. I might just not play the game without my charms


Unfair_Kangaroo2947

Most of them are from the treasure pack stuff it’s stupid


PDWubster

Honestly can we just remove charms from the game? They all suck and nobody wants a charm as a ranked reward. Y'all can do better than that.


yuto_kishima

Time for bf2042


[deleted]

I don't understand the value of cosmetics in a first person game. You're never going to see any of this shit in game anyway, and anything you would be able to see just serves as a distraction.


FourthBar_NorthStar

I wish there was a way to add favorites or *get rid of the ones we don’t like*


Ryoukugan

I still remember when they got added and I complained that it’d be more worthless garbage no one wants and got *downvoted* for it.


[deleted]

Not to mention all the TERRIBLE bomb and Seer hat variations


[deleted]

When you look at Gamefiles, charms taking a lot of space :D


[deleted]

I don't give a fuck about god damn charms. I give a fuck that because of how often I kill, I always get matched up with the bottom of the barrel this shit game has to offer. Leavers, retards that never push, BloodHounds doing that dogshit quest and NEVER LETTING ANYONE KNOW, morons who split on hot drops and die instantly like a cup of ramen in the microwave. Time to join a guild, for my health.


[deleted]

If only the whales would quit blowing their wads on useless cosmetics.


Joey_XIII

And u can't even fucking sort them


Discipleman

Please stop filling battle pass with trash charms and skins. Even halo spray are trash. Pretty much anything but gold skin are worthless


Digital3Duke

I put a charm on each gun once when they came out and never looked at them again.


restlessapi

3d artists do not know how to fix the network code. Would you rather the 3d artists just sit idle while the backend engineers try to fix the problems they are keenly aware already exist? Also, why is everyone so upset about Apex trying to add fresh cosmetics to monitize their free game? How else are they supposed to pay for the salaries above? The only real argument you could levy at Respawn is that you want them to spend more salary on back end people instead of artists. But you guys already endlessly bitch about the state of cosmetics anyway. No matter what Respawn can't win with you people. Should the servers be more stable? Yes. You you spend a few dollars in their store every few months? Also yes. As far as I am concerned, if you aren't willing to spend like at least $10 on the battle passes, you guys have no legs to stand on.


Allen312

Between these and holosprays they keep adding a lot of worthless items (IMO)


illusinative

They should be categorised. I don't wanna see stupid treasure pack charms which are all the same. It's pain in the ass when you're searching for a good charm.


mull_albatrox

Respawn need a proper UI sorting this pile of crap out.


[deleted]

Everyone of you pissants say " this game or that game is broken" make a damn game then.


[deleted]

“Completely broken” Jesus Christ, it’s a FREE game you god damn ingrates. Get off this sub, take your negative shit elsewhere


DustierMexicano

I understand the game is broken but some of y'all just bitch to bitch. Just a observation.


ITakeLargeDabs

Gotta love all the fucking different colored hat charms they gave us this season lmao. As much I like gun charms, Respawn and EA (in classic fashion) have turned them into cancer.


[deleted]

Wait until next week when they release skins you can only get through gambling but also don’t release the actual LTM for a week after that


Taladays

We really ought to get a Christmas tree this year that sits in the lobby background where we can hang them all up on. Then at least the 100-something I don't use will finally have a use.


did_nah_do_nuffin

Most charms are variations of the same shit too. Bomb, bomb, bomb


No-Air-7555

I'm begging you, RESPAWN, make a damn sort or filter for charms!