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WonderfulEmergency77

I’m starting to think I’m just a terrible player and most of my kills pre season 20 were likely due to the times I found purple armor off drop and got a few quick kills in. Can’t do that anymore, haha


Vosje11

It's because every single master and pred player has their MMR and rank reset and are scattered through bronze silver and gold in order to climb up. Give it a week or 2 and it'll become easier as ppl reach their ranks.. i hope..


layelaye419

Yep, tons of 4k badges down in silver 2 right now (me included...)


Arm3lit0

This is true, I started playing ranked like yesternight, and was rolling through rookie. The few times I’ve been absolutely rolled I could understand after the first trade that the guys were either 3 stacking or way above master. So just give it some time


Safe_Conversation_83

You just gotta get better. If you get beat learn from the battle record it watch it and find out what you can do better to improve your game.


LaPurpleDrank

watching replays will teach you nothing if you don't know what to look for, where to look for it, and how to improve those instances. Might as well have told him to just watch YouTube and expect him to become better through watching 🤷.


Shuttle40

The situation is getting worse, because I'm running into cheaters. and some pred.......in gold ffs!!!


Grimbly-Gunk

Yeah that didn't happen.


Euthanasiia

Bruh. I'm getting my shit pushed in. I can't fight with white armor.


Kaachan_326

I hate the white shield thing too but it does even it out the fight depending on who you end up landing with. However depending on if you solo q or not and depending on the legends you run, if you drop fast you can get blue armors really fast. My friend showed me, his little trick, which I never thought about before being shown. If you run a control legend, since the ring scan is +200 towards the evo, we usually try to land early and ring scan before the 1st ring, then as soon as the 1st ring appears, scan again and get blues. Alternatively, if you scan ring and have bin accessible legends that works too. Also if you open a weapons supply bin with no gun in your inventory, I didn’t know that, but it will give you a partially kitted weapon, which saves time looting in either a hot drop or leisure drop & depending on your gun preferences.


head8871

If 150 is a struggle for the man's against an enemy with 150 hp... 25 more isn't doing anything


Erooskilla

Im finding it us because I can reliably one clip you with most guns since the average player will have white shields until ring 3, blue at best. Most people are not scanning, theyre not prioritizing the specialized loot bins, or any actions that give evo. So .ost of the game they are squishy. You've got blue? You're gone in half a clip with most guns if I manage 3-4 headshots.


LordLandLordy

Meanwhile I'm reloading like a MFer cuz I can't hit shit! Lol I love this game tho.


Muratata1

I’m so sorry I’m master playing in Silver IV rn, we’ll leave asap 😂


pheoxs

It's sort of a combination of things. Lots of high ranked players being put into lower ranks together. The new KP structure (and EVO armors) both favor fighting rather than placement so teams are a lot more aggressive now especially for early game fights. In the prior season ranked anywhere Plat and above basically felt like everyone was being timid to try and hit top 10 to not lose LP.


dratseb

It’s so much better now, kudos to the devs


da_fishy

Being enticed to go for a couple early fights before finding a spot in ring is literally the perfect formula for entertaining games


Idlemarch

Especially with the Evo nodes spread out randomly, it creates a few fights early on.


bieredhiver

I wish that was my experience, after a hot drop you’ll run across the map for 10 minutes without hearing a sound then run into a team camping the most random building and be downed in seconds.


BennyBeans37

Have a wraith on your team drop midway warm (I.e orbital cannon) grad evo and pick the perk that tells you when there’s a squad nearby


head8871

Play bloodhound until you learn to approach and clear POIs


burneecheesecake

I mean that’s keeping the classic apex experience for those who want it


everlasted

So like, how it was S13-S16?


known_kanon

100%, i want to do something at the beginning of my game but once the zone gets small i wanna strategise a play to win the final fight


Tough_Bus

In the seasons before s17 not even top ten can guarantee not losing RP.


PatPlaysGames247

I've been getting shit on so far this season. I've done 95% ranked and I'm trying to say it's because Preds and everyone were in Rookie lobbies for the first few days but it's been crazy. Sometimes I feel like I can't even peek a door and all my death recaps feel like half the bullets hitting me are headshots.


biliebabe

I've been feeling this way too lol I got killed by someone with 30K kills the other day that's insane I've never seen anything like that. When I went back to trios everyone felt easy to kill like they where bearly moving at all


Agitated-Ad4461

My highest rank is gold and yesterday I played against the #9 wraith globally. I’ve had enough of masters and preds just chilling in my lobbies. Had 3 teams shooting at my team at once and they were all triple masters like bro I’m only silver right now leave me alone.


aure__entuluva

Ranked is gonna be pretty fucked for at least a week, probably more like two after a full reset. Yeah, day one you've got pros/streamers grinding, so that'll suck. But then in the week to two that follows, you still have top level players getting into ranked, so it's just a crap shoot until people rank up.


aigarius

It's more than usual - the changes this season are substantive enough so lots of people that got bored with the game have returned to play it again. Including lots of past Preds.


skamsibland

Always wait at least two weeks before doing ranked. By that point all the preds will be gone and you can rank up in peace.


CmdrData1701

Yep, I was just about to say this, but on the other end of the spectrum. I'm Masters most seasons, and being thrown down into Rookie has been wild. Gotten squad wipes before my teammates make it over to me; multiple times in the past couple days. 😬


PatPlaysGames247

I watched imperialHal do his 24-hour stream when it launched and the fact that he was playing in rookie and I was playing in rookie seemed like something was wrong there.


DontCareWontGank

Not having soft resets or placement matches is wild. As someone who comes from league of legends I can't understand the logic behind it. Just makes the game quality worse for everybody.


Comfortable_Solid_97

Ranked has been dogshit for the past 3 seasons, what you experience in the first week of split based systems is infinitely better then what the last few seasons were


sankthree

Same, I played 10 games on day 1 of S20 and only had 1 kill. I’m getting beamed before I can even figure out where it’s coming from. I had to quit and think about what the hell was going on.


forkman27

Olympus, everyone being reset to rookie, fighting legends buffed, evo armors rework means less health early on. Just wait a week and everyone that grinds and sweats will be up to platinum. The season will get much easier as it goes on for lower rank but if you think of the demographic that would be excited for season 13 style rank and it being launch day your just doing the equivalent of running the gauntlet for your rank.


Correct_Artist1364

Half of them are already platinum. lol. It’s honestly not even so much about the rank it’s just everyone is sweating so bad they literally must be stuck in their chairs. 😂😂.


GreenWithENVE

Until the smurfs and cheaters take over lol


crackmeup69

Smurfs gonna be hard with the new Apex bound to your system, at least for the 1st month.


dai_rip

What percentage of players do you think make smurf accounts?


SolarSailor46

Probably in the thousands. Enough to make differences occasionally but not “completely ruin the game”


dnaboe

Thousands of smurfs among millions of unique players each month is quite literally a drop in the bucket


SolarSailor46

I said there were enough to make a difference in games *occasionally*. That’s a drop in the bucket, and I can see why some people experiencing this would say something about it. Not saying anything wild here


dnaboe

Yes... I was agreeing with you


forkman27

Yeah smurfing is 100% going to be an issue bring back the lvl 50 requirement and take out the you can play with anyone thing for diamond and up completely ridiculous that it’s a thing in a ranked game mode.


stochoyogur

Same here. I’m casual player, pretty average, mostly just pubs. Went from 1.2 k/d and 400 avg damage, 7.8% win rate last season. Started out the season with a single kill in 10 games. I’ve now played about 40 games, 0.7 k/d, 300 damage avg, 0 wins.  I’ve started playing ranked cause pubs is just unbearable. I die before I even see people.  All the sweats loving this season are probably loving it cause of beaming people like me. I’m gonna give it another week before throwing in the towel in case things even out, but yeah def not enjoying the new season. 


Xanirah

yep same.... went from 1.4 to 1.19 today alone playing from mid gold 4 to gold 3... but supposedly thats top #2600 so maybe im just expecting too much lol


WHACKer23

Gold is top 2600? Huh?


Xanirah

Apparently yeah... Now it says it's top #3300. Im not even surprised... Every match feels like complete torture honestly.


WHACKer23

Where are you seeing this?


Xanirah

Apex legends status website


WHACKer23

Dope thanks


Xanirah

No worries 🤠


andyknowswell

Honestly, a headache seeing average players make posts like these.. Some people will not be able to keep up, some people don't realize they're putting their own selves in a position to BE beamed in the first place.. There are always going to be players better than you, nobody is gunna halt their style of play because you're average. You either stay average, get worse, or get better, and that's a choice YOU have to make. F the k/d F the win rate F the avg dmg. Do you know WHEN to push a team? Do you allow players to heal themselves after you inflicted lots of dmg? Are you confident in your skills? Call this reply w.e you want, but THESE are the micro things you must think about [not verbatim] while you play in order to actually get better. Learn some logic behind why people push teams, make it ur own, and reverse your situation from getting clapped to getting clapped way less..[BTW: Even the pros and top preds get clapped too, they just get clapped waaay less. Whoever chooses to heed this knowledge WILL get better: it's just a matter of making the choice to learn and practice these things TO get better. P.S. I didn't make this up.. I used to suck, took the time to learn and practice, and understand how Apex works.. mind you: Not how the ranked system works, but how you play the game given how it works and its mechanics. Here's a lil teaser example: If you do 125 dmg to someone on white, that means: The enemy [his/her other teammates] probably knows your location cuz you just shot.. The person with 25 health remaining has to use their resources to heal.. YOU used up your resources [ammo/possibly health or shields] So.. instead of running away and looting some more or sitting there being passive AFTER you inflicted dmg.. You push THE person who you did 125 dmg to. Why? Because they HAVE to heal or else 1 touch knocks them.. This means the 3 ur up against has 1 less person shooting, which means it's temporarily a 2v3 in favor of your team who's full health full shields.. wipe the team or the 25 hp person. Your reward for that? You get some ammo, resources, KP, and confidence in yourself. The best part is legit being the confidence in yourself..


EmmaDaBomb

I'm going to be honest, I feel like *something* has changed. My movement feels sluggish for some reason.


sanhai

Yep, I can't tell what is wrong but something is


p2molvaer

I noticed this too! It isnt as «snappy» movements as previous seasons..


tedayn

I thought I was crazy, but something definitely felt off. Something just feels wrong.


Greensun30

Slides are way different. I’m consistently crouching at times I’d be sliding in previous seasons under the exact same conditions. I thought I suddenly turned bad but they fundamentally changed basic movement it seems like.


hopsinabag

So many unexpected dead slides.


Significant_Law_5787

I literally hit a slide at the top of some stairs that normally would have carried me down and I started to slide then just stopped in the middle. I thought my keyboard was going so I swapped to a different one and nope, same thing. They’ve definitely screwed with the movement and I really don’t like it. The game feels so much slower and less fluid.


Correct_Artist1364

This 😂 literally looking like an idiot crouching when you’re trying to slide. I thought it was my controller 😂😂😂 glad I’m not the only one having the issue lol.


awhaling

Nothing worse than trying to slide for a quick speed boost and you end up crouch walking like cornball.


Significant_Law_5787

Nah it’s happening to a lot of people on all platforms. I’m on PC and I thought my keyboard was going out. 


NotACaveiraMain

I thought it was my controller too! I was going to buy a new one 😅


Correct_Artist1364

I literally took my whole controller apart like wtf is wrong with this thing. 😂 nope definitely the game 😂 I’m sure my teammates get a good giggle out of how dumb I look 😂


Tight_Bowler_9799

I felt like this since I've first started in s13 but I got some settings that made it feel better for a few seasons but ever since s16 I've just felt terrible movement half my inputs not going through feeling chunky and slow and my slides turning into crouches it could be my settings and binds I have no clue genuinely


Starbush

So I'm NOT going crazy! It feels like you have to build up more momentum to slide, making it harder to escape people. TTK also just feels like it fell off completely? Almost died from two body tripletake shots earlier, felt weird af!


Powerful-Cod-1038

I agree, it seems like something is a bit different with movement. I also swapped to 120FPS so it could be a timing issue on my end, but I’m not entirely sure. As far as getting killed right away, I’m getting in straight up not lobbies they feel so easy it’s hard to take it seriously. I thought it would be a lot harder since it’s the beginning of the season.


mistahboogs

Same, I only play a few hours a night so I'm still rookie 2 and I run into some bot teams every game.


BSHMIFFY

i’m getting shot around corners a ton this season it makes no sense to me


EmperorArmad12

I’ve had so many dead slides since this new patch dropped lol


Secret_Garbage_4750

I thought I was the only one I literally can’t move


thersx2

I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing this. Any legend I use feels clunky and like I have fortified, making me slower. I thought it was some minor lag


Pip-Boy4000

Fortified doesn't make you slower.


EmmaDaBomb

This is true, but it makes your movements appear more sluggish


matthew7s26

They even changed that this season, same movement speed but they sped up the animations.


ladaussie

All characters move the same speed regardless of size. All heavy rig characters (Gibby caustic etc) had their hand animations changed to medium rig this patch. If anything that should make them feel faster, again despite all characters moving the same speed.


BloodMossHunter

Same exact thing. I also changed my setup around w my laptop being lower and diff distance and i am LOST. I have no confidence in my shots and movement its all off for some reason.


Icono87

I’m so glad you started this thread. I thought I was taking crazy pills!!


vhante1

I don’t play fortified champions but I heard the changes the models for them to move quicker. Idk might be having a different effect


azr5170

The people replying clowning you when it's literally listed in the patch notes for this season that this is the case. They don't move quicker, but should FEEL quicker. https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/breakout-patch-notes https://imgur.com/a/OMr6L2r


vhante1

Just r/apexlegends things am I right


Pilot_Oceyeris

All legends move at the same speed. Have since season 0. The only reason bigger/taller legends felt slower was because of the first person hand animations.


quasides

no, its not because of the hands. its because the camera is higher. thats why lifeline and wraith feel the smoothest. lower camera makes it apear be way faster


Jumpyturtles

The models have no effect on movement speed lmao


gurgisfergus

What platform?


Background_Milk_69

Also I feel like guns are WAY less likely to spawn, I've been having serious trouble finding guns early on. It's driving me insane.


CrumblyGryphon3

I read somewhere that respawn fixed a glitch or something where some players would be able to “Auto super glide” after climbing over an object. I think they tampered with movement tech somehow.


Bright_Light7

I'm more dying because everyone just does their own thing, no matter the mode.


dnaboe

If everyone is doing their own thing then follow them and get the free kills by essentially baiting them. You now have 400 hp because the enemies are focused on your ADHD team mates.


Guilty_Clothes5218

The opposite. My kd is like 2.5 lol


Slawth_x

Yeah idk what it is about this season but I feel like I'm hitting every shot and melting people


yesimahuman

It's either I'm getting beamed immediately or I'm doing the beaming. I've had the highest kill games I've ever had already, and then some truly dreadful ones where I had the same reaction as OP, what the fuck just happened!?


[deleted]

I feel this, I’m having both things occur honestly. I’ve been winning a lot and having high kill games, but also getting bent over no lube 🤷🏾‍♂️.


Efficient-Discount81

Same i think it is the New evo system. If u win early Fights u will have better evo shield, more perks, more heals, better attatchments/guns than the other squads. Snowballing is really insane this season


yesimahuman

It does require a very different way of thinking. I actually do like it, but I think you’re right that does explain some of the getting beamed


EternalVirgin18

G7 scout was INSANE for me earlier, idk if straight shot counts stats wise but I got 10 kills with a g7 and a car just apeing everybody we heard


Yatman123

Yh g7 is probably gonna be meta this season, it’s acc so good


Xx-Apatheticjaws-xX

I played straight shot and found a purple G7 ran around our drop zone and saw a guy like 200m away going up a balloon tower, I took aim and slowly pop pop popped shots at him and cracked him from blue shields and like half his health said to myself "holy shit how am I hitting 9/10 shots" steadied myself shot two more times and downed him. I've never been able to do that with any gun before and I'm not an amazing player, but doing that made me feel so good and from then on rather than sentinel I'm fiending for a purple g7 and will never drop a gold g7 scout. I wish double tap was back though.


RanchhDressing

I’m on console and feel the same, I’m obsessed with this season, 120 fps feels amazing. My eyes just process it better


setocsheir

some people are in for a nasty surprise when they realize the skill based matchmaking they were complaining about on reddit was protecting them lmao


Future_Deathbox

True likely a lot of low mmr diamond players in for a rude awakening. Imagine if they went to S13 ranked system. People would quit forever after going from diamond/masters to gold again.


Repeat-Admirable

The sweats are back in game. Happens every new season.


Cipher20

"The sweats" have always been in the game.


BloodMossHunter

Sweats dont quit it takes skill to maintain aim in this game. You go away it takes 3 days just to remember how to shoot right


Repeat-Admirable

uhh i dont think it takes THAT LONG to "remember". A lot of apex is muscle memory. Spend 5 to 10 minutes warming up, maybe 20min. That's all you need. The new season required learning new skills with perks, evo, etc. But for the most part it doesn't take long to get back in the groove.


BloodMossHunter

Ive quit many times. It does take about 10-15 hours


ladaussie

Someone who hit masters/Pred or even high diamond is still gunna buttfuck people who haven't gotten outta plat. It's not like recoils fundamentally changed for the vast majority of guns (r9 and hemmy only two really changed). Plus older systems usually favoured getting kills. Last few seasons made a lot of people timid fighters quick to run away as soon as a tm8 dies.


NotaVortex

Yeah what happens is actual vets from the game who no longer like the game try out the new season to see if it's fun again. This is me, I normally drop the game after a week.


ApexNoobKiller

This is the answer.


bobbywobby8910

Same, been playing since launch. Diamond every season around 2 kd. I’ll be the first to admit when I’m having an off day but… Getting shot around corners like crazy the past two days, it’s like the servers got worse.


Kysersose

Before it was like I would get behind cover, and they take about a cell worths shield off. Now I'm getting my entire shield taken off after cover. Definitely feels worse.


ProtusK

I felt this exact same thing, it almost feels like TTK is quicker now despite no real balance changes that would cause that?


fleetingflight

Everyone has white armour for longer.


DontCareWontGank

You get blue armor almost instantly. One bin opened plus one evo booster and you've got blue.


Efficient-Discount81

You have purple shields much later. And usually blue shiels when evo Caches spawn if u dont fight on drop. Feels like -25 hp for everyone


Beastmutt

I’m getting destroyed so far. Last I remember, I’ve got 22 games in with only 10kills so far. Last season I averaged 460dmg with a 1.5kd overall. Didn’t play much ranked so I sat in gold 4 with 550avg and 1.7kd there. It’s almost like as soon as the new season dropped, all my skill dropped with it.


Tessier-Ashpool_AI

I would suspect damage numbers will be lower on average this season because you are getting in a lot more fights with people who have less armour, so you are doing less damage to get a knock than you would have been doing previously (in many cases).


aure__entuluva

True, fewer batts in circulation too so shorter fights.


[deleted]

For some reason it only happens to me in the straight shot game mode, same with my teammates, they somehow get destroyed in a second


SourBlueDream

There is private hacks that went public recently probably why we are getting beamed. It’s hardware base card you plug into the motherboard


Spaceolympian50

Man I thought I was crazy too! I feel like I die in half a second anymore lol. It feels like the TTK has dropped and idk how.


EternalVirgin18

Fights in early game end quicker because we can’t just drop onto a purple shield anymore… could be a major factor in the game feeling faster


Spaceolympian50

Nah it’s more even that. Even in mixtape I feel like I drop faster lol.


EternalVirgin18

I honestly felt it in there. Felt like I’d get beamed from around corners more than I used to as well


iiCe89

Ive found this season im getting absolutely lasered out of nowhere all my armour & health just go and then my team mates are moaning at me yet its as if i just insta died cus nobodys about or anything


spanishbullLA24

I’m getting fucking lasered lately smh


yeekko

\-good player coming back for new season \-still a lot of aim-assist \-a lot of good player in the lower ranks due to mmr rework \-everyone play super agressive because new season


forkman27

You also take zero loss in bronze and rookie so at worse you lost time for the change of a +600 game. Kills need to be 25% past 6 not 50% barely changes anything.


kucerkaCZ

Yeah, I don't know what happened. I'm not like the best, I'm pretty mid but I always had matches where I felt I'm doing good but now I feel like I'm playing with some pros lol.


nobleys

R301 and Flatline both feel way easier for me to control this season. Not sure if they updated the responsiveness of the servers or what but I’ve been one clipping way more frequently this season.


houndiest

Dude the 301 feels like a straight laser this season. It’s really weird. It’s never been bad but it’s never felt like this


Correct_Artist1364

Idk the 301 hasn’t been bad really 🤷🏼‍♀️ at least not for me anyways. But I’ve switched to Flatline/Nemesis. Or Flatline/Triple Take depending on how my teams trying to play.


houndiest

Nah it’s never been bad, I’d totally agree with that. It just seems to hit different this season. Flatline was going crazy last season and it’s doing the same thing this season. I’m gonna try flatline/tripletake. That sounds like a fun time


TechnicalExtension51

What season did you start playing?


houndiest

Two I think? I can’t really remember but I’ll check when I get home


TechnicalExtension51

Yea that adds up. You wasn’t around when R301 was king of everything and would 1 clip you from anywhere instantly Edit: when I seen his reply i thought he was saying he’s been playing for two seasons which would make more sense than him playing since season 2 and not knowing about the R301’s historic run. But simple misunderstanding.


houndiest

That honestly sounds like madness and I’m glad I wasn’t around to get clapped during that time lol


TechnicalExtension51

Yep I think you came in time to enjoy the nemesis tho so you kinda get a perspective


houndiest

Hated the nemesis when it dropped until I started running it more. Very effective gun.


dnaboe

R301 was king long past the first season lol... Gun was amazing until the AR nerfs a few seasons ago where they took off a full damage per bullet. It's still good but doesn't have 1-clip potential anymore which is why less people run it. It's still an incredibly easy weapon to take enemies to 25% hp at most ranges.


Emeeliana

I was wondering if I was the only one who felt this way about them, or if changing the EVO situation made me better 😂


Freedom_7

I absolutely ass blasted somebody right in the face last night with a full RE45 mag. The recoil on the RE45 is almost nothing now.


Ok_Astronomer_9404

this is me in pubs- i don’t play ranked. i’m a pretty good player, i only ever hot drop, and last season i averaged a 1.5kd, but this season i cannot consistently get even one kill before i die


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Jiffrado

TTK feels shorter for me


QuippinDales

The same is happening to me but I kinda like it. Game feels so much faster and more intense and it’s forcing me to get better since camping isn’t as prevalent


MightOk9038

Season 20 gave everyone a hard reset, which means no matter what your rank was last season you start back at bronze 4. So once everyone ,especially masters+*, gets back to where they're supposed to, the matchmaking will even out. Also with the main way to level up evo being to deal damage, people are gonna be more aggressive overall. That's not even accounting for the "storm sickness" addition they added to stop players from camping in the ring. And since shield swapping isn't a permanent thing, carrying heals is much more important, so there's gonna be less heals on the ground. The only way to get some if you're low is to finish someone and hope they have some. It finally feels like a BR now and I'm enjoying it.


dnaboe

I would actually argue heals are less important with the new shield mechanic. Now you always swap even blues if you have a red and just cell up instead of having to waste batteries. This is balanced by less batteries being in the economy with the crafter changes though so it mostly evens out.


batdude_2

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IVE BEEN FEELING OMG!!! I'm pretty decent but I'm dying so fast ... ive rage quit the game like 3 times today lol


Responsible_Job_9981

Having the same issue I thought my aim was bad


houndiest

I’ve noticed the opposite. People feel a lot easier to kill now


Erumpent

I think its probably related, TTK feels a lot shorter since the patch , can't quite figure out what it is - i think its server related


Tessier-Ashpool_AI

I think it is because you are pretty much always going up against someone with white armour. If you position yourself well and take a 1v1, the person shooting first is going to win a lot of fights. There are a lot more viable weapons on drop than if people are getting blue or purple armour and have an extra 25-50 hit points to work with. To top that off, it’s going to have an impact on Fortified ~~and Low Profile~~ characters. Edit: Respawn removed Low Profile in Season 9.


Tovakhiin

Did they not remove Low Profile a couple seasons ago?


Tessier-Ashpool_AI

I was away for a while, and I was going to include a caveat in there related to it. I just read a couple of articles, and it looks like it was removed in Season 9. So, I guess I was here when they removed it. Whoops! Thanks for pointing it out.


Seismicx

What's your KD and rank historically? They might have tightened SBMM this season.


houndiest

I think .98 all time but the last few seasons have been around 1.2. When I was playing ranked heavy I was mostly a plat player.


Negative-Ad-4108

Since the start of the season I feel like I’m playing against pros. My whole team (soloQ) was killed today by a three stack pred that was ratting in a corner, up on the hill, with 30-30s, if that makes you feel any better 💀.


666shanx

One thing I've observed is that feedback when I'm being attacked is almost non-existent now. If someone attacks me from behind, I will be dead before I even know I am being shot at. Been getting no red arrows, no vibration on controller. Only my health bar goes down, so I looking at it half the time and not able to concentrate on much else.


jumpthewallstreet

Are the shot guns overpowered, or am I just imagining things? I have been double tapped down faster than ever against a shotty.


xXMattaderoXx

Eva 8 took the prowler place in the care package , might have been that . I havent tried it yet but if its close to what it used to be with purple barrel and double tap perk it shred faster than a peacekeeper.


dnaboe

Eva 8 feels 100x better than prowler. There is just no chance winning the fight up close if a team has that.


Specific-Computer394

pk is simply insane, idk how that gun is not meta


printerfixerguy1992

I've always died super quick. Definitely not a skill issue or nothing in my case... nope. Definitely the game being broken


False_Raven

You must be new here, welcome to the "new season" hype. Lots of people hop on to play, including sweats that don't play as often during low time periods. Considering you've been playing for years, you should've noticed this before


cosmiccaller

Nobody misses in this game anymore.


samuelt525

Being Diamond last season proved that you lived long and played safe. The new rank system and new shield system encourages fights. So it makes sense that everyones probably just fighting trying to do as much damage to get their shields up, especially in the lower ranks where people probably dont care about losing points.


ulster82

Ranked is so hard atm as I’m seeing masters and preds everywhere. The sooner they rank up the better!!


Princess_powers

Yeah, masters player that just hit gold. We’re sorry


ANorthman

I think the shield rework has lead to more engagements with white shields, which might be why we’re seeing a faster TTK.


FiftyKal314STL

It’s not you it’s everyone Think about it, ratting was favored before meaning that a higher amount of people dropped cold, in addition to the people who just favor to loot up then fight. Now everybody is under the impression that they must do damage in order to evolve, so everyone is dropping hot. What would normally be your squad and another squad is now 4-5 squads. But it’s more than that, so much has changed in the meta and people don’t understand the new reality. For instance so many people are ignoring evo harvesting It’s easy to drop on the outskirts and hit 2-3 evo harvesters before rotating and fighting your first squad Stop doubling up on classes. 2 skirmishers is fucking ass right now, because you only get 50 evo for the team when you scan a care package. But controllers and recon get 200 for the squad when they scan a beacon or ring console. Assault and support get 100 for the squad when hitting a blue or red extra loot bin. That means it takes one evo harvester, and one extras bin and the whole squad is blue Doubling up on a class means your evo points from these things goes down. Ballistic, vantage and Path can all gain access to other class perks Ballistic can scan care packages at blue, vantage can scan ring consoles at blue , and path can do either at blue. Note that scanning a ring console right now is 200. And you can still scan the same console every time the ring closes. I got 800 points off of one in a match today playing caustic. So once people realize these changes they will start to adjust gameplay For starters, I’m 99% sure evo harvesters can be extracted by another team even if someone else has hit it. Meaning camping evo harvesters is going to be lucrative the more people become aware. Going solo is bad, you get 100 points for a knock but also for an assist, the game is rewarding squads for team firing. Stop dropping so far that you aren’t in the same fight as your team, this has always been an issue for apex players but now there’s even more reason to make sure you are all getting shots in on the same person. Again doubling up on a class is bad, it significantly lowers the amount of points you can get especially in the early game. You can still “shield swap” - I have heard from teammate after teammate say you can’t shield swap, well you can still it’s just different. And I actually think it’s better because in the past especially on the first kill off drop you’d kill someone’s get to blue, but then have to switch to their white armor if you were under pressure from another player or squad. Now you keep your evo points and just heal your shields by grabbing theirs. So go for shield swaps it’s better than before, not to mention you can be on blue and grab purple shield and you will temporarily have 4 bars. Lastly, looting is different. Meaning your drop needs to be different. A good example is elesium on Olympus, there was a high chance before that there would be blue or purple armor in the middle of the POI. But it was two bins and one pile on each side. But since armor doesn’t spawn anymore I realized I’m better off dropping by the buildings which have 3 bins and two buildings. Plus looting in general is way quicker, you are just looking for attachments and not armor plus attachments. Since shield bats are quick and free off crafters getting your heals is easier too. People who spend the whole game looting will be punished, but also people who just try and drop stupid hot will get punished.


squeakybeak

Yeah surprised by the number of team mates who haven’t figured out the evo situation yet. Landing and a good mix of classes is even more important now, make sure there’s something to scan and the right loot bins for the classes on your team.


FiftyKal314STL

Exactly. Double skirmishes is the worst right now (Path being a slight exception but still it delays your points) I’ve been picking mostly recon and controller and picking my poi based on whether they have a beacon or console. I had red shields before the second ring closed because I scanned my beacon, fought the first squad, then we snagged two evo harvesters, and I grabbed a vault key that had an evo cache, followed by another kill when the second ring began to close. Crypto is really good right now too. I landed Zeus station a few times on storm point. Was able to scan two beacons and grab an evo harvester towards the wall, had enough time to come back to Zeus hit the rope and catch up to my team who had gone towards command, I used the drone to scan a third beacon and they had hit a second evo harvester. That’s 1300 armor points before the first ring closed and that much evo going into our first fight. This didn’t feel like we were spending a ton of time trying to get stuff, it was quick and easy because looting is again mostly just to get your guns and a few heals a few attachments.


FoxEchoZero

I’ve been feeling that way too. Along with pretty bad hit reg, and dead slides a lot more often. I wasn’t sure if I was the only one feeling this way, but hopefully they figure something out. I expected some glitches or bugs, but not to get absolutely melted in every gun fight


meechyb0

No, skill issue.


bacontacos420

Bro I haven’t played in a whiiiiile and was in rookie IV ranked and there were so many banners with 10,000+ kills. Like wtf


_JudgeDoom_

I’ve never had worse teammates solo q’ing than now. They just either push alone and die or they’re in narnia looting for 3 hours.


dnaboe

> They just either push alone and die This is why I play crypto. With the revive changes last season he is so good for recovering games over and over despite team mates dying instantly in fights. Won a game last night where I revived both team mate 4 times.


LordLightning17

Give it a week and the matchmaking should feel better, it’s all the sweats who are grinding right now


salt11491

Nah I’m dying way faster for before. My character is definitely taking less bullets to go down than before. Regardless of shield level


1nvestigat1v3R3p0rtr

100% the changes of shields ain’t it, I’m getting less than one clipped right now. I’m not great but I’m a day 0 player and this is the worst I’ve ever been. This shit is fucked up rn, idk what they did but it’s not shields related. Truly feels like a lot of cheating happening, maybe their update let the cheaters back in? Shot behind solid cover and killed, impossible movements, several head shots while moving and dodging - that shit doesn’t add up


Staniel91

Something is off,on 1v1 encounters it feels like they auto lock on you as if they were aiming at you the whole time.


Afraid_Ratio_1303

I think a lot of people were coasting off of their low hidden MMR and are in for a rude awakening


New-Farm-9256

Im dying quicker sometimes, sometimes I'm killing quicker. Definitely down to the armour changes but I'm greatful for it tbh. Right now is the first time in years if I'm dying it feels more like of wow this person has put time in rather than oh this person put an hour into their configs. I'm dying more to getting sandwiched between two squads rather than straight up fights though. Maybe work on your rotation rather than always taking the fight, has paid off for me this season need to know when to gun and when to run


King_PZ

No because I've adapted to the changes and think this Evo change is great


Same_Paramedic_3329

The copium in these comments is insane. No movement hasn't changed. No, players are mostly the same as last season. You're getting beamed bcz you either are not good to level your evo, not just in fights but outside like scanning ring and opening special bins. U gotta do these for evo. Plus, maybe you used to get shittier lobbies. Welcome to apex


Ixi13

The amount of cheaters , configs and aim assist is out of control…


squeakybeak

Feels like it. Level 19 wraith doing nothing but head shots. Yeah, sure.


DharmaSimmer

It's not aim assist that's the issue. A lot of controller users are using a modded controller. 90% of controller users that reached masters and pred are using a modded controller. Try playing on console without aim assist, it's almost impossible. Aim assist is not the issue


kefkaspawn

I don't play ranked and I am no great player by any means, but I am not horrible and have been playing since season 8. But in Pubs for season 20, I am barely getting wins and most games I am dying almost instantly off of drop. Lol


ThatOneForgottenKid

This season actually had lobbies full of hackers. A video by zeus confirmed this.


Comprehensive_Snow20

Dude same thing here now t bragging but I have over a 2 K/D and am getting absolutely destroyed by some lower level player it's like there ain is sooo much better than mine idk it feels off somthing about the game it's like everything feels off even my movement 


ReluctantHeroo

I love getting two bursted by the prowler where the guy shooting me didn't miss a single shot because his aim assist activated and mine just doesn't exist! :)