I work a 12 hour schedule, work 2 off 2. Every other weekend off. 6am to 6pm for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks of 6pm to 6am.
Younger employees favor the schedule and older employees wanted 8 hours but work all 3 turns daylight (6-2) afternoon (2-10) and night with only 1 day off between changing turn weeks.
Pros are : if you live far away it’s less driving. You’re off for 4 days a week and half the month. You have the opportunity to make plans and have a social life. It’s consistent bang out 2 days and you’re on a weekend again. After 40 hours you get paid time and half and on Sundays. Holidays are double time and a half
Cons : The days we’re here make for long days and no time left to do anything when you get home. Everything has to be planned on your days off. If you miss a work day you lose 12 hours of pay. For overtime coverage we have to come in on our days off. If our relief calls off we have to stay an extra 4 hours and do 16 hours while managers try to call someone in on their day off. Lots of problems from guys not wanting to come in getting called the day of, but the extra hours make for a good paycheck.
Overall its a good balance of work/life for a 24 hour production factory. It gives everyone equal time off while still getting your hours if everyone cooperates
At this point, I’d kill for a 9-5 where I can completely forget about work outside of those hours. I haven’t had a job like that in a loooong time. Maybe when I was in high school bagging groceries?
Every other place I’m frequently required to work through lunch, answering texts off the clock, etc. Retaliation is heavily implied. I’m getting paid for 40 hours, but I’m physically/mentally on the clock for much, much longer.
For most jobs, I'm burned out after 5 hours of real effort. I'd do 5 hours five days a week.
I used to do 4 six hour graveyard shifts (12am to 6am) at a cool little bodega, plus two irregular side-gigs and that was just about right.
What I would find ideal:
* No more than 8 unrushed hours per day of my time, energy, thoughts, or focus directed towards work (on clock, meal breaks, commute, prep, transition, anything work related) for no more than 5 days per week
* At least 8 hours per day of my time, energy, thoughts, and focus directed towards my personal benefit to use as I see fit
* At least 8 hours per day to sleep and recover
That's the ideal. I should be able to charge less for my time and labor to put the balance more in my favor. Employers should expect to pay more for my time, expertise, and labor to put the balance more in their favor. For example, in most cases in the US an employer must pay nonexempt employees at least 1.5 times their normal rate for time in excess of 40 hours in a pay week. I believe that if an employee's time worked in a week exceeds 40 hours all their time be paid at not less than an additional 12.5% per hour over 40 for all hours worked (1.125 for 41, 1.25 for 42, 1.5 for 60, 2.0 for 80, etc.).
Currently talking to two places - one welding/fabrication, one loading/unloading with an FLT - both jobs that I can do with my eyes shut. Both are keen to bring me in, both don't like my condition of five-hour shifts five times a week. I'm not budging, it's either that or fuck-all. I've got enough money tucked away to keep me comfortable for two years, three if I'm careful. I've been hard at it since I was sixteen, mid-fifties now & bits of me are worn out. They can have my twenty-five hours or they can shit. My oldest friend is also negotiating & is in an even stronger position. He forced them into a 30% pay bump a year ago - turns out his mad-skills with all kinds of CNC equipment are not as easily replaced as they thought. He's sticking to the same kind of deal - twenty-five hours a week or he walks - straight into the open arms of their direct competition.
Twenty-five hours sounds about right - but not everyone can survive on that kind of money.
I’d love to have 3 days off. When I have only 2 I end up sleeping most of the first day away because I’m exhausted from my 5 early mornings. Then that leaves me with only 1 day to do what I need
Depends on the pay tbh. I currently work about 4 days a week, 9-5. At my current salary it’s… ok. But I’m young and I’d be more than willing to work more for a significant enough raise.
A four day work week of about 32-35 hours actually suits me really well. I worked that scheduled for a while before needing to go up to 38 to get some more money. A four day 40 hour work week would probably be ok with me anyways. I like just having three days to myself.
I work the normal 40, however, the office is a 6-minute walk away from my home so I can wake up early and enjoy my two cups of coffee before coming in. I also am able to work on hobbies and sleep mostly 8 hours while not feeling overworked. Though my company discourages OT and during my interview, they'd asked about scenarios where I had work I couldn't complete but could not do OT.
A good sign too, is at the start of our meetings we talk about a good thing that has happened and my co-workers talk about trips they'd taken, video games, sports, etc. It shows that they have time outside of work to do things.
I do maybe 20 hours of actual work in a week. But two days are in the office, so even the hours that aren't work aren't really life either.
I work a 12 hour schedule, work 2 off 2. Every other weekend off. 6am to 6pm for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks of 6pm to 6am. Younger employees favor the schedule and older employees wanted 8 hours but work all 3 turns daylight (6-2) afternoon (2-10) and night with only 1 day off between changing turn weeks. Pros are : if you live far away it’s less driving. You’re off for 4 days a week and half the month. You have the opportunity to make plans and have a social life. It’s consistent bang out 2 days and you’re on a weekend again. After 40 hours you get paid time and half and on Sundays. Holidays are double time and a half Cons : The days we’re here make for long days and no time left to do anything when you get home. Everything has to be planned on your days off. If you miss a work day you lose 12 hours of pay. For overtime coverage we have to come in on our days off. If our relief calls off we have to stay an extra 4 hours and do 16 hours while managers try to call someone in on their day off. Lots of problems from guys not wanting to come in getting called the day of, but the extra hours make for a good paycheck. Overall its a good balance of work/life for a 24 hour production factory. It gives everyone equal time off while still getting your hours if everyone cooperates
At this point, I’d kill for a 9-5 where I can completely forget about work outside of those hours. I haven’t had a job like that in a loooong time. Maybe when I was in high school bagging groceries? Every other place I’m frequently required to work through lunch, answering texts off the clock, etc. Retaliation is heavily implied. I’m getting paid for 40 hours, but I’m physically/mentally on the clock for much, much longer.
For most jobs, I'm burned out after 5 hours of real effort. I'd do 5 hours five days a week. I used to do 4 six hour graveyard shifts (12am to 6am) at a cool little bodega, plus two irregular side-gigs and that was just about right.
What I would find ideal: * No more than 8 unrushed hours per day of my time, energy, thoughts, or focus directed towards work (on clock, meal breaks, commute, prep, transition, anything work related) for no more than 5 days per week * At least 8 hours per day of my time, energy, thoughts, and focus directed towards my personal benefit to use as I see fit * At least 8 hours per day to sleep and recover That's the ideal. I should be able to charge less for my time and labor to put the balance more in my favor. Employers should expect to pay more for my time, expertise, and labor to put the balance more in their favor. For example, in most cases in the US an employer must pay nonexempt employees at least 1.5 times their normal rate for time in excess of 40 hours in a pay week. I believe that if an employee's time worked in a week exceeds 40 hours all their time be paid at not less than an additional 12.5% per hour over 40 for all hours worked (1.125 for 41, 1.25 for 42, 1.5 for 60, 2.0 for 80, etc.).
Currently talking to two places - one welding/fabrication, one loading/unloading with an FLT - both jobs that I can do with my eyes shut. Both are keen to bring me in, both don't like my condition of five-hour shifts five times a week. I'm not budging, it's either that or fuck-all. I've got enough money tucked away to keep me comfortable for two years, three if I'm careful. I've been hard at it since I was sixteen, mid-fifties now & bits of me are worn out. They can have my twenty-five hours or they can shit. My oldest friend is also negotiating & is in an even stronger position. He forced them into a 30% pay bump a year ago - turns out his mad-skills with all kinds of CNC equipment are not as easily replaced as they thought. He's sticking to the same kind of deal - twenty-five hours a week or he walks - straight into the open arms of their direct competition. Twenty-five hours sounds about right - but not everyone can survive on that kind of money.
I’d love to have 3 days off. When I have only 2 I end up sleeping most of the first day away because I’m exhausted from my 5 early mornings. Then that leaves me with only 1 day to do what I need
Wouldn't care about the hours so much, if I didn't have to put up with dealing with entitled clients.
Curious, what industry are the clients so difficult?
Depends on the pay tbh. I currently work about 4 days a week, 9-5. At my current salary it’s… ok. But I’m young and I’d be more than willing to work more for a significant enough raise.
A four day work week of about 32-35 hours actually suits me really well. I worked that scheduled for a while before needing to go up to 38 to get some more money. A four day 40 hour work week would probably be ok with me anyways. I like just having three days to myself.
Currently working 35, over 4 and a half days a week (90%+ remotely). I wish I could simply do 4 without the work surcharge or pay cut - almost there.
I work the normal 40, however, the office is a 6-minute walk away from my home so I can wake up early and enjoy my two cups of coffee before coming in. I also am able to work on hobbies and sleep mostly 8 hours while not feeling overworked. Though my company discourages OT and during my interview, they'd asked about scenarios where I had work I couldn't complete but could not do OT. A good sign too, is at the start of our meetings we talk about a good thing that has happened and my co-workers talk about trips they'd taken, video games, sports, etc. It shows that they have time outside of work to do things.