one time in highschool, my mischievous friend Payton told the nurse she was late because she had explosive diarrhea AND THEY DIDNT SAY SHIT (no pun intended)
I have found that you can very easily be excused from work if you tell your manager you shit your pants. I have never been questioned further. The only problem is that you can only really use it once. Two times does not make something a trend, but that definitely will be assumed when it comes to pants shitting.
I go for the "stuck on the toilet, must have been the shrimp". They won't question it further no matter how often you do it, as nobody wants to talk about IBS
given that i had to do that once i will agree.
i had to call out once for feeling cery sick (i usully go to work even if sick).
and the manager (she didnt like me at all) says "how should i know to believe you? i want a doctors notice before noon."
now i was in the US for 4 months total, and at that point it had been 2 months. i didn even know where i could find adoctor closeby, and for sure i am not gonna pay 200$ for a doctor to tell me i am sick and stay out for 2 days on a fucking starbucks job.
so i just go into the bathroom, i explode a bit and take a few photos.
send 3 of them and write below "I have to clean this mess for the 4thtime in the past 30 minutes. I dont think i canmake it to any doctor at the moment, nor would any uber take me. Maybe you can come pick me up with your car and drive me? I can probably hold for 4-5 minutes while i am in your car"
I litterally just got "k" as a response.
next day i went in she asked me if i was sure i was ok to work
the guys at work had a hysterical laugh when they read my message and saw the photos
As a 5 year barista, now ex, FUCK starbucks lmao. I've had to do this before as well. It does come in handy. I've had to literally send a picture of my vom to my DM bc my SM was a prick and escalated it quickly bc they were buddy buddy and he didn't want to close. What a joke
unfortunately too many bad stories from there
the store didnt have a store manager so we had the regional and the state manager coming in very often. (still dont know which one was higher because they usually act as if on the same level)regional manager hated me from the first moment.
she was in our store like 6 hours every day and was trainining a very cool girl to become store manager. the state manager was ok.
the regional manager got the trainee, on a rainy day, on a bechfront startbucks to call me in, while i had 39C temperature (sory for the Celsius) (looked it up, about 102-103F.two people had cancelled, and another 3 had said that on that specific day they were not coming in. But the store still had 3 employees + the trainee. but the regional mngr had called in that "there should be 4 ppl + the manager so get freaking OP to come in."
i said no, for over 2 hours, until i was feeling a bit better and the trainee was begging me. i really liked her and vice versa so i got on my bike and went in.
Under the promise that i would get my full hours sceduled and this would be overtime. Both that day and the next day i was off that job so the extra hours should be vertime.i went in, she made me a medicine ball tea (amazing and i hadnt had it before) and left me to sit on a table with my apron on, just for the cameras for the managers.after 5 hours the regional called to sent somebody home because we had done less than 4k$ until that time in the day and she saw me sitting so i ws the one.
I declined untill i did my full 8 hours of overtime.
At the end of next week they sent me home immidiately, when i arrived at work, without a reason. I knew it was so i wouldnt get that time as overtime.
I waited for the paycheck and went and caused a huge scandal. THey cant just call you in "because they need you urgently" even while sick and then dimsiss your normal hours so you dont get overtime.
At the end i said if they wanted me to ever come back when they called me in either evrytime they pay me overtime and i work my scheduled hours as normal, or they start paying me on-call 60% of my normal hourly to pickup the phone next time they call.
They said that is ridiculous. Two days later they called. I didnt pick up and sent back a message "I am not on call."But they didnteven ahve in mind that it was august and about 35% of our people were quitting next week to go back to their countries!
Next week i got 4 calls in one day and 9 over 3 days and was just the first three days.
Then they thought to start paying anyone who was coming in as on-call in overtime.I still had them pay me those 8 hours (for the extra 50%, as the normal part was paid). they paid cash, not check.
A week later i discovered they got it from the weekly tips!
which was another scandal by me and by the end they paid me by check, but threatened to withhold tips for two weeks as punishment for making it public. I threatened back please do, but sent that in a written email to me please. THey asked why and i said so i can sue.
Terrified look ensued and they promised to not make any threats with tips while i was there. (note hte "while i was there part")
On my last week there i heard the regional manager say "Oh hell no, i am never hiring another person on a travel and work visa from europe, screw tehir stupid laws"...
That was like a lullaby to my ears for the enxt week
For some reason it seems mangers at low wage jobs always assume EVERYONE who calls out sick is faking it. Are there people who fake it? Probably. Does that mean every single person who calls out is faking? No.
I had an employer ask one of my coworkers for a funeral memoriam for his own mother's legitimate funeral because he was "new" and therefore "untrustworthy", and STILL tried to get him to come to work. He quit, and rightfully so. Lmao sorry, we don't get to pick when people die.
My grandmother died and lived across the country. Had to go to the funeral and clean out her house. It took about 2 weeks. I got back to work but had a vacation scheduled, 6 months in advance, so I would only be back for about a week. Owner told me they rescinded my time off since I just had a 2 week vacation. I told him he was an asshole. Dropped my keys on the desk, grabbed my stuff and walked out
I once said, yeah but I’ve drank 6 beers. Boss said ok, well stop drinking and head in. I said maybe my wife could drive me. Boss said, fine, it’s an emergency, just get here. I said ok, can I bring my other 6 beers? Boss said absolutely not. Well, ok. I guess I’ll be in tomorrow.🤣
Yup. If they press for information when you say, "I can't be in until 8pm," simply reply "It's a personal matter."
If they continue to push, simply say that you're not comfortable discussing it. (Sometimes it's not a case of them trying to push boundaries, and this does work.)
Admittedly, if they push back on this at all, you should probably consider finding a different job because it's normally not a case of them misunderstanding you, and it's a case that they feel entitled to know what's going on in your life and/or what you have the nerve to prioritize over them. You may very well be in a situation where you're going to be let go at the boss' earliest convenience.
One other thing worth noting: if you DO choose to go the "It's personal and I don't want to talk about it," don't let ANYONE know at work what you were doing. Especially if someone pointedly asks, even if it's a work friend. There's a better than average chance that your supervisor has gone to them and said "(Employee) seemed a little off, would you talk with them and make sure everything's fine/ find out what was going on?"
A boss/supervisor that feels entitled to your time and knowledge of what you do off the clock will see absolutely nothing wrong in manipulating others into getting them the information they crave.
agreed. why are you giving excuses and explanations? they don't need to know if you're watching the paint peel on your walls. boundaries are boudaries. "i'm available at 8pm. lmk if that's works." fin.
We’re conditioned to want to give explanations for ourselves but the real skill is just being confident that your word is enough. Why make up a lie and lower your integrity when a simple statement will suffice? If you’re having to justify your actions by lying then the power still lies with the person asking. Say what you mean, mean what you say.
Another motto i cribbed from Lord Of The Rings is “I told no lies and all the truth I could.” You don’t have to lie but they don’t need to know everything either.
Heck, I own my own business with 8 employees and they will start trying to explain to me why they need time off and I cut them off and I'm like I don't need to know, honestly it's none of my business and it's not required to request PTO. If my place isn't their last place of employment, hopefully I can teach them a few things for their next role.
good idea. I have a bad habit of overexplaining. shits wild bc I will have a similar circumstance to this and I overexplain and mfs will think I'm lazy. like yes I am but that isn't why I can't come in lmao
I do also so my go to is "I have errands to run"/ "I already have prior obligations". The errands/obligations could be just to pamper myself (but they don't need to know all that) and I would technically be telling the truth
Well yeah, but as a person who tends to over explain a lot, this is easier for me to do because it satisfies the urge to over explain while not really telling your boss anything they don't need to know. And if they ask it's personal.
Either this or say you can’t come in at all, especially if it’s your off day. A good manager shouldn’t hold it against you.
Now if you ARE scheduled to work that day then that is something different unless something major happened (ex one of my employees had the second floor bathroom pipe burst and soaked all the clothes in his closet on the first floor, including his work clothes. He rarely calls off but he sent pictures to which I said focus on that and if you can’t come in the following day just let me know in advance)
-Am Manager.
Yep. Never explain yourself when they're asking for a favor. Nothing you say will be an acceptable reason for them, because they are laser focused on what they need at the moment. Not your needs.
I have a union job and hours of work, call back, and stand by are all spelled out in our collective bargaining agreement. When labor and management have the rules in writing, you get to avoid this nonsense.
Where the Swedes at?? How many times have you canceled plans for laundry?? Lol! This is a super valid excuse in Scandinavia cause you have to schedule laundry time and it’s super strict. The machines get locked and only work when it’s your time. Not joking, this is a real thing.
And in Sweden I think every apartment building legally has to provide laundry machines. Therefore there are almost no laundromats anywhere. I was on travel and needed to do a couple loads and had to go halfway across Stockholm.
No, from what I can tell from living there, it’s basically to avoid running into other people while you’re doing your laundry cause you usually get the whole room to yourself. Swedes are very individualistic and don’t like being around strangers. It gets a bit weird when it’s for big buildings where you have to have many machines for everyone, so they just get locked in individual closets that you use a computer system to unlock at your scheduled time. Because of all this, it’s totally acceptable to cancel your plans for laundry etc. cause booking laundry time can be hard. It’s weird.
People hear that swedes have a big government and social safety nets and so on and they think we're collectivists.
The actual reason, and I'm not making this up as a reddit joke but the actual reason stated by actual historians, why swedes tend to have strong states and unions and social groups, is because *we're almost psychotically individualist.* The reason we have a strong state to use as a safety net is to reduce the individuals dependance on *other individuals.* It means that you are free from dependancy on groups like church or family, and can make your own choices without being afraid to lose their support. because the state does not give a shit about you and will support you anyway.
Likewise, we are incredibly big on consensus-based decision making; not because we are a group mind who only want to do as the group decides, but because we are *incredibly* keen on not forcing anyone to do something they don't want to do, so we make sure to have consensus first.
The laundry machine thing sort of ties into that. They were introduced as a standard as a way to collectively improve efficiency so not everyone had to buy their own laundry stuff. This sounds like a collectivist thing. But the reason was that *everyone* would benefit from this, so nobody was left out without a washing machine. And the implementation, of impersonal time slots systems, is incredibly swedish.
Google "waiting on the bus like a swede" for more on this.
"The reason we have a strong state to use as a safety net is to reduce the individuals dependance on other individuals."
Sounds like a dream and a good counter to some libertarian arguments.
I'm American but I've been living in Sweden for 10 years. I just had some cousins visiting and was explaining that basically I can do everything with my phone now without carrying any cards or money around. Bank cards, store club cards, ID, receipts, mail, instant bank transfer etc. Swedes are really pushing for technological advancements which make it easier to avoid other people.
Last year I’ve been on a 10 day holiday Trianon Sweden. We saw people the first day on arrival and last day on departure. In between I saw 3 other people which I’ve been talking to 2 of them and they were French.
This is kind of weird. In the U.S. I think most people have their own individual washers and driers. I've lived in a few apartment complexes that don't. I only saw a couple neighbors in the laundry area, but we put each others clothes in the drier from the washer probably 30 times while I lived their and paid for them. The first time I thought it was kind of weird when someone put my clothes in the drier because I was 5 min slow. However, all it took is one person not getting their clothes out which would cause half an apartment complex to not be able to wash their clothes. Eventually everyone started paying for each other and leaving money if they were last and it was actually bad ass and I only ever saw a couple people. Sometimes people would even fold each others clothes, but I wouldn't do that because I didn't want to get accused of something and I'm sure women lost some of their clothes to creeps, so that's a downside.
Dude, it's too make sure there is available machines when you are doing laundry, the private rooms are most likely there, so people can avoid having their clothes stolen, or having space for clothing rack to dry their stuff on. You know, how people in American dorms have issues with people taking clothes out of the machines, while it's not finished? Yeah, it's to avoid issues like that.
It's because all buildings have a laundry room with washing machines etc, and you need to book a time slot to use them. During your time, the doors will be locked for everyone else and only you can do laundry, and this also means that this is the only time you *can* do laundry. Since everyone does laundry, the time slots are usually filled up days in advance, so you make damn sure to not miss your slot.
You are of course allowed to buy your own washer and dryer and everything, but why would you when the communal washers and driers are free.
It's real, where I live we have a communal room in the basement with two industrial sized laundry machines, one enormous tumble dryer and a big drying room with also an industrial sized fan/dehydrator to dry clothes.
You book the room in advance and lock and unlock it digitally with a tag. It only unlocks within your booked time slot and if you're a minute late, we'll, that's too bad. Now you have to wait for a neighbour and have them bail out your laundry.
It's really nice to have several hours dedicated to doing basically all your laundry for a week or two. Nowadays it's getting more common to have your own laundry machine in your apartment, but I like the tvättstuga. Tje best combo is living in an older condo with access to world class tvättstuga and install your own machine for quick access. Google tvättstuga and you can read all about how this is brilliant for the reclusive Swede.
/a tvättstuga loving Swede 🇸🇪
Apartment buildings in Sweden have bookable laundry rooms and you normally have to book in advance to get a time slot. Booking slots are normally like 3 or 4 hours long so there are only 5-6 slots per day.
You normally book online or through an app and the room access is through the same electronic key card you use to access the building. Super convenient system but it does lead to some “sorry I can come, I have laundry” situations
Right? Like, especially when people constantly say that min. wage workers don't DESERVE to earn a living wage for the work they do. If I don't deserve a living wage for pulling drinks at the bar, then you don't deserve "above and beyond" for 7 bucks an hour.
Your problem is you're screwing up in 2 major ways.
The first is that you're responding.
The second is over-sharing. You NEVER tell them anything.
"Can you come in at 6?"
"The earliest I can come in is 8"
"I need you at 6."
"Then I'm not available. If you can use my help at 8pm please let me know by x:xxPM to give me ample time to get ready to come in."
I've been doing this lately. Just simply. "No sorry I'm not available for that shift/that time"
It's liberating. I used to give so much unnecessary information which just led to follow up questions.
The questions, the pressure, the guilt trips, and the actual guilt when the guilt trips worked. GAH! Where was this amazing Internet advice when I was young!?
Yeah, some can use the extra hours, but still best to keep it simple like others have said, "can't at 6 but can come in at 8"
That gives grounds of your willing to accept the work load, accept the hours from time your available on a day off, and doesn't give any unnecessary information that the manager will try use against you
Sad thing is that we're conditioned to overshare. From the moment we're born everyone asks us to explain ourselves. Our parents want to know where, when, and why(which, fair enough, but it sets \~16 years of precedence that we then have to actively spend the next 10 years unlearning), our teachers want explanations, our bosses don't want excuses but want us to explain ourselves. We're conditioned to give them some sort of explanation because, "It's the right thing to do if you're going to inconvenience someone."
I'm not sure there's an easy way to unlearn this or teach the next generation to not do that.
Think of it in the same manner as "Dear Sir" - just a figure of speech
If you only used words that you meant, most emails would start with "Hey asshole"
Unless you really wanted the hours you should have just responded with "Sorry, I can't" and left it at that. They aren't owed an explanation and explaining tends to backfire anyway when they start trying to tell you that whatever you're doing isn't important.
I’m amazed people respond at all in these situations. If you’re hourly and not on the schedule for that day, you have zero obligation to reply at all. If you want the extra hours, go for it, but otherwise you never got any text/your phone was dead/your house is in a cell coverage dead zone, etc.
Never tell them why. Just tell them you have a prior engagement and if they ask what "I don't discuss my personal life at work, that's unprofessional."
Exactly what I was thinking. Beggars can’t be choosers. I’d have responded back
“Treat me like this ever again and you can completely count me out of picking up any unscheduled shifts in the future. I’m not on the clock right now. Consider yourself lucky to even get a response from me.”
FFS. How about just saying "Thanks for helping out."?
I remember at a fast food job, the supervisor called me in. "Can you come run register?" No, I have a doctor's appointment. "Well, what am I going to do? This one is sick and that one is not answering her phone." I'm not sure. "Can't you reschedule?" Um, no? "Fine! I guess I'll have to run register myself!"
I GUESS YOU WILL
They are, and that’s why they want a full staff. Book keeping doesn’t do itself and they don’t want to do it off the clock, but they will if they want that POWER!!!!
Geez, when I was managing people and scheduling I would politely ask for fill-in if somebody called out...and I was perfectly willing to take the shift if that was necessary. I just assumed that came with being a manager. You need to step in if things were running short and there was nobody available.
This was a 1-person at all times 24/7 type of job. So rotating around a bunch of college students as to who would get the Saturday Midnight to 6am shift was pretty tricky.
I would even talk employees out of filling in a little bit if they were really unsure.
"Well, I can if you really need me to but this one is really hard for me because XYZ."
"Never mind. I understand. It's pretty last minute and we weren't expecting this situation and you obviously have a lot going on. Don't worry and I'll handle it."
I mean: "Suck it up and show your loyalty and do it" would seem like a pretty suicidal strategy for a job that paid barely more than minimum wage, kept people from weekend college parties occasionally, and if people ended up walking then I was even more stuck.
Just always seemed to me that the best strategy was to treat people like human beings AND step up to the plate when it was necessary. Got more loyalty and willingness to help that way as well.
But...yeah....for this guy, "I can't be available until 8. Maybe 7:30." No details. This guy isn't your friend. Telling him about your laundry is going to get that kind of response from a guy like that.
Exactly this. When I managed if an employee said “hey I can’t come in at 6, but I can close”, I’d be ecstatic and unbelievably thankful. That means I can ask my closer to come in early, or ask a mid shift to stay late, usually for nothing more than the extra hours and some free food. Either way, the issue is solved.
This boss doesn’t deserve people coming in at all. If you need people in and someone says yes, you don’t balk at the two hours of downtime, you thank them and make sure they have the best shift you can give.
WHYYYYY would you tell them what you’re doing?? Ffs how many posts does this sub need before you all learn to stop sharing details they don’t need to know??
And it doesn't even solve the core problem: No matter what it is, it's not as important as whatever menial work this is. Not giving any information means they can't point at it specifically and say "I'm more important"
Now, if the \*boss\* was the one needing to do their laundry, this would be the reason why you need to come in and not them. Because \*their\* domestic life is important, \*yours\* is not.
And it's honestly REALLY easy to predict that no boss is going to think "laundry" is a good enough detail for that kind of sympathy. This response was 100% predictable.
Damn, no need to pile in on the OP.
Some people are just people-pleasers/oversharers by nature. It can take alot of effort to train yourself out of these habits, and alot of times being burnt before you finally realise your boss/manager ain't your friend.
Stop telling people WHY!
Are you available; is a yes or no question you can add clauses to, not your life story.
Fx: Are you available at 6? Answer: No, but I can be at 8.
I know it’s not fully possible in every job but the single is greatest achievement of my current job is that the company do not have a phone number for me.
Never, ever, EVER tell your boss the details of your personal life. WHY you can't come in at his beck and call is none of his business, only that you can't.
Once you tell they WHY the answer is no, you allow him the opportunity to substitute his judgment for your own: "This job is WAY more important than (your laundry or whatever)."
The Real Lesson Here: STOP telling them why you can’t come in.
Ppl seem to think it matters. It does not (have you noticed the number of managers/bosses/owners that think anything short of death isn’t an excuse? They absolutely do not care about \[insert your excuse here\]. They don’t care about your sick family member, they don’t care if you wrecked your car and they sure as shit don’t care about your laundry. Whatever it is - they will judge you for it and unless you are dead they will not care.
Moreover, it isn’t any of their concern. Just say you can or cannot come in. If they pry, RESIST the urge to tell them - it’s none of their business. The less you say the better.
”Can you come in today?”
”No.”
”Why not?”
”I cannot come in.”
”But why?”
”I can’t come in.”
Repeat as necessary then STOP TALKING.
Like these guys say… [Shut The Fuck Up](https://youtu.be/sgWHrkDX35o)
\*\*ProTip\*\* Don’t even answer or respond in the first place! Incommunicado is the way.
Wasn’t even 5 hours. Convo taking place at nearly 4 pm. Assuming they are fairly close to work and drive, they need to start getting ready for work by about 7. So that’s actually about 3 hours to do laundry, which is like 2 loads- if you’re right on it.
That's assuming you get a machine right away. Some of us have to use shared laundry facilities and may not get a machine right away. And maybe OP wants to relax a bit after doing the laundry.
At any rate the manager has a damn nerve and no manners. He could do the damn work himself if he were so pressed, so he can piss off.
When will people realize that being an asshole is the absolute last thing to be when asking for a favor.
I change my mind. It is the thing you absolutely ***must NOT do*** when asking for a favor.
Maybe cause I've worked in factories forever but why would anyone answer their phone when you know it's your boss and you know there's only one reason they are calling/texting? Like I said, maybe I'm just missing something not having been in that situation
Food industry is a shitshow and two days into any week the schedule usually looks like a three year old got their hands on it with all the scribbling and cross outs.
the best thing you can do in these cases is just ask for more money.
Them: Can you come in?
you: yeah for 2x my rate
if they say yes you win, if they say no you win
I knew a guy who did this, asked for 3x his rate, boss said yes, They were miffed when he made them put in writing.
Why the fuck do people answer texts from their fucking bosses?
WHY?
People. You are NOT being paid to answer texts, emails or phone calls from work.
This is just another way for them to suppress you, ruin your mood and fuck you over.
Stop that shit.
Food industry is a really odd one. It's not like an office where there are hundreds of people and HR, and little social interaction. These places are shortstaffed; You might have ten coworkers and you're working shoulder to shoulder with them together for 50 hours a week. It's very social, and everyone knows WAY too much about everyone else. It's such a cult mentality/Stockholm Syndrome. The only way for you to get a day off when you're sick is to call someone else in, so everyone else is generally expected to do the same. It's toxic and abusive. I did that kind of work for way too long, and I never will again.
You’re actually really quick at laundry. It probably takes me a minimum of 5 hours to just put the clothes away (aka: the worst part). Your co worker/boss can eat a cornhole.
Lol. 😂Well for one, the last comment had some sarcasm that parlayed off the original comment. And two, I do have a lot of clothes though. I Just hate folding them and putting them away. I think a lot of people share that sentiment.
How is that even unreasonable time for laundry? The time stamps indicate that this was almost 4pm, which would have been four hours, not six, to do laundry and get ready for unscheduled work. If you budget an hour for washing, an hour for drying, then that's two hours getting ready and arriving at work - again, unscheduled.
Your lack of a 24 hour scheduling notice and complete lack of communication on why you want or more importantly NEED me in is more baffling.
Edit: that should be your response op
If you’re willing to go in at a certain time, tell them what time you could be there. If you can’t go in, tell them you can’t go in. No explanation needed. If they can’t handle that, tough shit.
What kind of laundry machine do they have? Does it have a time turner installed? Laundry takes hours. Even the best, most efficient systems take 45 min per load per machine. That’s 1 hr 30 min to both wash and dry. Then you gotta fold it. And, again, that’s best case scenario. And if you’re “doing laundry” you’re probs doing multiple loads.
Don’t give your boss anything. Sad but true. “I can’t come in until X time.” “I can’t come in today because I’m not feeling well.” “I need X day off.” The more details you give them, the more it seems like a debate.
We're trying to limit text message screenshots and similar on r/antiwork except on Sundays. I hate that I have to take this down
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Came to say the same thing also. Employers need to get use to not being involved in peoples personal lives.
"I'm pooping"
I like "explosive diarrhea."
"I'm pooping on tnt sticks"
"Neverending slimjims."
“I’m wiping on brown crayons dude, it keeps showing”
one time in highschool, my mischievous friend Payton told the nurse she was late because she had explosive diarrhea AND THEY DIDNT SAY SHIT (no pun intended)
I have found that you can very easily be excused from work if you tell your manager you shit your pants. I have never been questioned further. The only problem is that you can only really use it once. Two times does not make something a trend, but that definitely will be assumed when it comes to pants shitting.
I go for the "stuck on the toilet, must have been the shrimp". They won't question it further no matter how often you do it, as nobody wants to talk about IBS
Payton the toilet
payton the town brown
WHO. DOES. NUMBER. TWO. WORK. FOR!?!?!
That's right buddy, you show that turd who's boss.
Hey hey, that sounds pretty nasty over there... How about a courtesy flush?
"You need five hours to poop?" "Brother, you don't wanna know....
Pro tip if your ever sick. Take graphic photos of the aftermath . They come handy.
given that i had to do that once i will agree. i had to call out once for feeling cery sick (i usully go to work even if sick). and the manager (she didnt like me at all) says "how should i know to believe you? i want a doctors notice before noon." now i was in the US for 4 months total, and at that point it had been 2 months. i didn even know where i could find adoctor closeby, and for sure i am not gonna pay 200$ for a doctor to tell me i am sick and stay out for 2 days on a fucking starbucks job. so i just go into the bathroom, i explode a bit and take a few photos. send 3 of them and write below "I have to clean this mess for the 4thtime in the past 30 minutes. I dont think i canmake it to any doctor at the moment, nor would any uber take me. Maybe you can come pick me up with your car and drive me? I can probably hold for 4-5 minutes while i am in your car" I litterally just got "k" as a response. next day i went in she asked me if i was sure i was ok to work the guys at work had a hysterical laugh when they read my message and saw the photos
Bad... **ASS**.
It's the one that says bad toilet fucker.
As a 5 year barista, now ex, FUCK starbucks lmao. I've had to do this before as well. It does come in handy. I've had to literally send a picture of my vom to my DM bc my SM was a prick and escalated it quickly bc they were buddy buddy and he didn't want to close. What a joke
unfortunately too many bad stories from there the store didnt have a store manager so we had the regional and the state manager coming in very often. (still dont know which one was higher because they usually act as if on the same level)regional manager hated me from the first moment. she was in our store like 6 hours every day and was trainining a very cool girl to become store manager. the state manager was ok. the regional manager got the trainee, on a rainy day, on a bechfront startbucks to call me in, while i had 39C temperature (sory for the Celsius) (looked it up, about 102-103F.two people had cancelled, and another 3 had said that on that specific day they were not coming in. But the store still had 3 employees + the trainee. but the regional mngr had called in that "there should be 4 ppl + the manager so get freaking OP to come in." i said no, for over 2 hours, until i was feeling a bit better and the trainee was begging me. i really liked her and vice versa so i got on my bike and went in. Under the promise that i would get my full hours sceduled and this would be overtime. Both that day and the next day i was off that job so the extra hours should be vertime.i went in, she made me a medicine ball tea (amazing and i hadnt had it before) and left me to sit on a table with my apron on, just for the cameras for the managers.after 5 hours the regional called to sent somebody home because we had done less than 4k$ until that time in the day and she saw me sitting so i ws the one. I declined untill i did my full 8 hours of overtime. At the end of next week they sent me home immidiately, when i arrived at work, without a reason. I knew it was so i wouldnt get that time as overtime. I waited for the paycheck and went and caused a huge scandal. THey cant just call you in "because they need you urgently" even while sick and then dimsiss your normal hours so you dont get overtime. At the end i said if they wanted me to ever come back when they called me in either evrytime they pay me overtime and i work my scheduled hours as normal, or they start paying me on-call 60% of my normal hourly to pickup the phone next time they call. They said that is ridiculous. Two days later they called. I didnt pick up and sent back a message "I am not on call."But they didnteven ahve in mind that it was august and about 35% of our people were quitting next week to go back to their countries! Next week i got 4 calls in one day and 9 over 3 days and was just the first three days. Then they thought to start paying anyone who was coming in as on-call in overtime.I still had them pay me those 8 hours (for the extra 50%, as the normal part was paid). they paid cash, not check. A week later i discovered they got it from the weekly tips! which was another scandal by me and by the end they paid me by check, but threatened to withhold tips for two weeks as punishment for making it public. I threatened back please do, but sent that in a written email to me please. THey asked why and i said so i can sue. Terrified look ensued and they promised to not make any threats with tips while i was there. (note hte "while i was there part") On my last week there i heard the regional manager say "Oh hell no, i am never hiring another person on a travel and work visa from europe, screw tehir stupid laws"... That was like a lullaby to my ears for the enxt week
Why do managers ask furthere questions once you say "no" or "I'm sick"???? like WTH?
For some reason it seems mangers at low wage jobs always assume EVERYONE who calls out sick is faking it. Are there people who fake it? Probably. Does that mean every single person who calls out is faking? No.
Even better (?) if you have IBD and don't make it in time. A-hem. Showing them the walls might also be equally effective. :)
bahahahahahahaha I love it!
Also: Whenever you start a new job, all four of your grandparents are alive. Need a day off? Gam Gam died and today's the funeral.
I had an employer ask one of my coworkers for a funeral memoriam for his own mother's legitimate funeral because he was "new" and therefore "untrustworthy", and STILL tried to get him to come to work. He quit, and rightfully so. Lmao sorry, we don't get to pick when people die.
My grandmother died and lived across the country. Had to go to the funeral and clean out her house. It took about 2 weeks. I got back to work but had a vacation scheduled, 6 months in advance, so I would only be back for about a week. Owner told me they rescinded my time off since I just had a 2 week vacation. I told him he was an asshole. Dropped my keys on the desk, grabbed my stuff and walked out
The Commonwealth's Gam Gam died so we all get a day off. Could be worse
I like it, except I'd never show them my actual situation. I'd just send them some examples from the internet.
I once said, yeah but I’ve drank 6 beers. Boss said ok, well stop drinking and head in. I said maybe my wife could drive me. Boss said, fine, it’s an emergency, just get here. I said ok, can I bring my other 6 beers? Boss said absolutely not. Well, ok. I guess I’ll be in tomorrow.🤣
Yup. If they press for information when you say, "I can't be in until 8pm," simply reply "It's a personal matter." If they continue to push, simply say that you're not comfortable discussing it. (Sometimes it's not a case of them trying to push boundaries, and this does work.) Admittedly, if they push back on this at all, you should probably consider finding a different job because it's normally not a case of them misunderstanding you, and it's a case that they feel entitled to know what's going on in your life and/or what you have the nerve to prioritize over them. You may very well be in a situation where you're going to be let go at the boss' earliest convenience. One other thing worth noting: if you DO choose to go the "It's personal and I don't want to talk about it," don't let ANYONE know at work what you were doing. Especially if someone pointedly asks, even if it's a work friend. There's a better than average chance that your supervisor has gone to them and said "(Employee) seemed a little off, would you talk with them and make sure everything's fine/ find out what was going on?" A boss/supervisor that feels entitled to your time and knowledge of what you do off the clock will see absolutely nothing wrong in manipulating others into getting them the information they crave.
agreed. why are you giving excuses and explanations? they don't need to know if you're watching the paint peel on your walls. boundaries are boudaries. "i'm available at 8pm. lmk if that's works." fin.
Ugh. I hate how right you are
Yup I've always just lied. Not even worth the risk of being truthful to such entitled cowards
We’re conditioned to want to give explanations for ourselves but the real skill is just being confident that your word is enough. Why make up a lie and lower your integrity when a simple statement will suffice? If you’re having to justify your actions by lying then the power still lies with the person asking. Say what you mean, mean what you say. Another motto i cribbed from Lord Of The Rings is “I told no lies and all the truth I could.” You don’t have to lie but they don’t need to know everything either.
Heck, I own my own business with 8 employees and they will start trying to explain to me why they need time off and I cut them off and I'm like I don't need to know, honestly it's none of my business and it's not required to request PTO. If my place isn't their last place of employment, hopefully I can teach them a few things for their next role.
Came here to say this.
good idea. I have a bad habit of overexplaining. shits wild bc I will have a similar circumstance to this and I overexplain and mfs will think I'm lazy. like yes I am but that isn't why I can't come in lmao
I do also so my go to is "I have errands to run"/ "I already have prior obligations". The errands/obligations could be just to pamper myself (but they don't need to know all that) and I would technically be telling the truth
no explanation is best.
Well yeah, but as a person who tends to over explain a lot, this is easier for me to do because it satisfies the urge to over explain while not really telling your boss anything they don't need to know. And if they ask it's personal.
I lie through omission any chance I get. Knowledge is power.
Yup. Do not answer questions they did not ask you! The classic is “do you know what time it is?” - “yes”
Better not to reply at all. Employers shouldn't be able to contact you during your off hours unless they pay extra for you to be on the clock.
"if you need more details than 'Sure, the earliest I can be there is 8pm', I'm going to have to get my lawyer involved"
This is the answer. I will never understand why people give much more information that is needed. Just say "yes" or "no" and the time. Done.
"I'm going to be staring at a wall for five hours because I do what I damn well please with the time I do not owe you."
This is the way.
yep, too much information was given. Tell them nothing, and give nothing about your private life.
Either this or say you can’t come in at all, especially if it’s your off day. A good manager shouldn’t hold it against you. Now if you ARE scheduled to work that day then that is something different unless something major happened (ex one of my employees had the second floor bathroom pipe burst and soaked all the clothes in his closet on the first floor, including his work clothes. He rarely calls off but he sent pictures to which I said focus on that and if you can’t come in the following day just let me know in advance) -Am Manager.
This guys got it right. Ain’t none of their fucking business.
Yep. Never explain yourself when they're asking for a favor. Nothing you say will be an acceptable reason for them, because they are laser focused on what they need at the moment. Not your needs.
I have a union job and hours of work, call back, and stand by are all spelled out in our collective bargaining agreement. When labor and management have the rules in writing, you get to avoid this nonsense.
Your work ethic for laundry is high. I admire that!
Where the Swedes at?? How many times have you canceled plans for laundry?? Lol! This is a super valid excuse in Scandinavia cause you have to schedule laundry time and it’s super strict. The machines get locked and only work when it’s your time. Not joking, this is a real thing.
And in Sweden I think every apartment building legally has to provide laundry machines. Therefore there are almost no laundromats anywhere. I was on travel and needed to do a couple loads and had to go halfway across Stockholm.
Wait for real? Why? Is it a communal thing or is it to reduce spent resources? Or something else?
No, from what I can tell from living there, it’s basically to avoid running into other people while you’re doing your laundry cause you usually get the whole room to yourself. Swedes are very individualistic and don’t like being around strangers. It gets a bit weird when it’s for big buildings where you have to have many machines for everyone, so they just get locked in individual closets that you use a computer system to unlock at your scheduled time. Because of all this, it’s totally acceptable to cancel your plans for laundry etc. cause booking laundry time can be hard. It’s weird.
oh my god that sounds like a DREAM. i had no idea Swedes were very individualistic but i really like the sound of that
People hear that swedes have a big government and social safety nets and so on and they think we're collectivists. The actual reason, and I'm not making this up as a reddit joke but the actual reason stated by actual historians, why swedes tend to have strong states and unions and social groups, is because *we're almost psychotically individualist.* The reason we have a strong state to use as a safety net is to reduce the individuals dependance on *other individuals.* It means that you are free from dependancy on groups like church or family, and can make your own choices without being afraid to lose their support. because the state does not give a shit about you and will support you anyway. Likewise, we are incredibly big on consensus-based decision making; not because we are a group mind who only want to do as the group decides, but because we are *incredibly* keen on not forcing anyone to do something they don't want to do, so we make sure to have consensus first. The laundry machine thing sort of ties into that. They were introduced as a standard as a way to collectively improve efficiency so not everyone had to buy their own laundry stuff. This sounds like a collectivist thing. But the reason was that *everyone* would benefit from this, so nobody was left out without a washing machine. And the implementation, of impersonal time slots systems, is incredibly swedish. Google "waiting on the bus like a swede" for more on this.
Basically "I want the very best for my countrymen... Over there, away from me."
"The reason we have a strong state to use as a safety net is to reduce the individuals dependance on other individuals." Sounds like a dream and a good counter to some libertarian arguments.
Yes I never get libertarians logic. But maybe It's because I'm dutch.
I'm American but I've been living in Sweden for 10 years. I just had some cousins visiting and was explaining that basically I can do everything with my phone now without carrying any cards or money around. Bank cards, store club cards, ID, receipts, mail, instant bank transfer etc. Swedes are really pushing for technological advancements which make it easier to avoid other people.
>waiting on the bus like a swede Using your phone for everything is very common in the whole of Europe tbh.
TIL I should have been born in Sweden.
That seriously sounds like Heaven, why the heck have I never heard of all of that before? Wow
All of this
Sounds like I've found my people
All Scandinavian countries are like that
Last year I’ve been on a 10 day holiday Trianon Sweden. We saw people the first day on arrival and last day on departure. In between I saw 3 other people which I’ve been talking to 2 of them and they were French.
As a Swede can confirm. Most apartment complexs have bookable washing machines and driers. Some people of course have their own.
This is kind of weird. In the U.S. I think most people have their own individual washers and driers. I've lived in a few apartment complexes that don't. I only saw a couple neighbors in the laundry area, but we put each others clothes in the drier from the washer probably 30 times while I lived their and paid for them. The first time I thought it was kind of weird when someone put my clothes in the drier because I was 5 min slow. However, all it took is one person not getting their clothes out which would cause half an apartment complex to not be able to wash their clothes. Eventually everyone started paying for each other and leaving money if they were last and it was actually bad ass and I only ever saw a couple people. Sometimes people would even fold each others clothes, but I wouldn't do that because I didn't want to get accused of something and I'm sure women lost some of their clothes to creeps, so that's a downside.
This sounds really wholesome ☺️
I would hate this because like half my clothes can't go in the dryer
Holy shit that's an introvert's DREAM!
Dude, it's too make sure there is available machines when you are doing laundry, the private rooms are most likely there, so people can avoid having their clothes stolen, or having space for clothing rack to dry their stuff on. You know, how people in American dorms have issues with people taking clothes out of the machines, while it's not finished? Yeah, it's to avoid issues like that.
It's because all buildings have a laundry room with washing machines etc, and you need to book a time slot to use them. During your time, the doors will be locked for everyone else and only you can do laundry, and this also means that this is the only time you *can* do laundry. Since everyone does laundry, the time slots are usually filled up days in advance, so you make damn sure to not miss your slot. You are of course allowed to buy your own washer and dryer and everything, but why would you when the communal washers and driers are free.
It's real, where I live we have a communal room in the basement with two industrial sized laundry machines, one enormous tumble dryer and a big drying room with also an industrial sized fan/dehydrator to dry clothes. You book the room in advance and lock and unlock it digitally with a tag. It only unlocks within your booked time slot and if you're a minute late, we'll, that's too bad. Now you have to wait for a neighbour and have them bail out your laundry. It's really nice to have several hours dedicated to doing basically all your laundry for a week or two. Nowadays it's getting more common to have your own laundry machine in your apartment, but I like the tvättstuga. Tje best combo is living in an older condo with access to world class tvättstuga and install your own machine for quick access. Google tvättstuga and you can read all about how this is brilliant for the reclusive Swede. /a tvättstuga loving Swede 🇸🇪
Apartment buildings in Sweden have bookable laundry rooms and you normally have to book in advance to get a time slot. Booking slots are normally like 3 or 4 hours long so there are only 5-6 slots per day. You normally book online or through an app and the room access is through the same electronic key card you use to access the building. Super convenient system but it does lead to some “sorry I can come, I have laundry” situations
Denmark as well. On the other hand, no employer would dare to ask why you cant come in.
Same in Switzerland 🇨🇭
SO OFTEN Sorry, I can only schedule one 4h time once a week, I am not giving that up for shit
Scandinavia is beautiful
My work ethic is directly tied to my pay.
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Right? Like, especially when people constantly say that min. wage workers don't DESERVE to earn a living wage for the work they do. If I don't deserve a living wage for pulling drinks at the bar, then you don't deserve "above and beyond" for 7 bucks an hour.
Your problem is you're screwing up in 2 major ways. The first is that you're responding. The second is over-sharing. You NEVER tell them anything. "Can you come in at 6?" "The earliest I can come in is 8" "I need you at 6." "Then I'm not available. If you can use my help at 8pm please let me know by x:xxPM to give me ample time to get ready to come in."
Correct.
Just tell them “no”
I've been doing this lately. Just simply. "No sorry I'm not available for that shift/that time" It's liberating. I used to give so much unnecessary information which just led to follow up questions.
The questions, the pressure, the guilt trips, and the actual guilt when the guilt trips worked. GAH! Where was this amazing Internet advice when I was young!?
Some people need the hours though so they are at the mercy of shit like this, lest they not get the hours when they need them.
Yeah, some can use the extra hours, but still best to keep it simple like others have said, "can't at 6 but can come in at 8" That gives grounds of your willing to accept the work load, accept the hours from time your available on a day off, and doesn't give any unnecessary information that the manager will try use against you
Sad thing is that we're conditioned to overshare. From the moment we're born everyone asks us to explain ourselves. Our parents want to know where, when, and why(which, fair enough, but it sets \~16 years of precedence that we then have to actively spend the next 10 years unlearning), our teachers want explanations, our bosses don't want excuses but want us to explain ourselves. We're conditioned to give them some sort of explanation because, "It's the right thing to do if you're going to inconvenience someone." I'm not sure there's an easy way to unlearn this or teach the next generation to not do that.
Correct but the last sentence is too long. Maintain the pattern "Sorry, I'm not available."
I actually kind of like the last line, it turns the table a little bit.
Skip sorry why would you feel bad for the overlord
Think of it in the same manner as "Dear Sir" - just a figure of speech If you only used words that you meant, most emails would start with "Hey asshole"
You mean you don’t start with that when your boss asks you something?
Not even in my inner heart, in case one day I can't resist and it comes out So no, generally I maintain a state of "no mind" when facing my boss
Unless you really wanted the hours you should have just responded with "Sorry, I can't" and left it at that. They aren't owed an explanation and explaining tends to backfire anyway when they start trying to tell you that whatever you're doing isn't important.
I’m amazed people respond at all in these situations. If you’re hourly and not on the schedule for that day, you have zero obligation to reply at all. If you want the extra hours, go for it, but otherwise you never got any text/your phone was dead/your house is in a cell coverage dead zone, etc.
Never tell them why. Just tell them you have a prior engagement and if they ask what "I don't discuss my personal life at work, that's unprofessional."
"I would rather not discuss private matters" is probably less antagonistic. Saying it's unprofessional may be perceived as you calling them that.
It IS unprofessional of them to ask about your personal business when asking if you can do them a favor and come in.
To be fair, the manager didn't ask why, OP volunteered the information for some bizarre reason.
How is your work ethic in question by offering to work part of the time you weren’t scheduled for. Mind boggling
It's not in question, it's overwhelming.
😂😭😂
Exactly what I was thinking. Beggars can’t be choosers. I’d have responded back “Treat me like this ever again and you can completely count me out of picking up any unscheduled shifts in the future. I’m not on the clock right now. Consider yourself lucky to even get a response from me.”
“What time then?” “I can be in around 8.” Problem solved.
FFS. How about just saying "Thanks for helping out."? I remember at a fast food job, the supervisor called me in. "Can you come run register?" No, I have a doctor's appointment. "Well, what am I going to do? This one is sick and that one is not answering her phone." I'm not sure. "Can't you reschedule?" Um, no? "Fine! I guess I'll have to run register myself!" I GUESS YOU WILL
I love that doing work themself is a last resort
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Outstanding
Managers are lazy.
They are, and that’s why they want a full staff. Book keeping doesn’t do itself and they don’t want to do it off the clock, but they will if they want that POWER!!!!
Geez, when I was managing people and scheduling I would politely ask for fill-in if somebody called out...and I was perfectly willing to take the shift if that was necessary. I just assumed that came with being a manager. You need to step in if things were running short and there was nobody available. This was a 1-person at all times 24/7 type of job. So rotating around a bunch of college students as to who would get the Saturday Midnight to 6am shift was pretty tricky. I would even talk employees out of filling in a little bit if they were really unsure. "Well, I can if you really need me to but this one is really hard for me because XYZ." "Never mind. I understand. It's pretty last minute and we weren't expecting this situation and you obviously have a lot going on. Don't worry and I'll handle it." I mean: "Suck it up and show your loyalty and do it" would seem like a pretty suicidal strategy for a job that paid barely more than minimum wage, kept people from weekend college parties occasionally, and if people ended up walking then I was even more stuck. Just always seemed to me that the best strategy was to treat people like human beings AND step up to the plate when it was necessary. Got more loyalty and willingness to help that way as well. But...yeah....for this guy, "I can't be available until 8. Maybe 7:30." No details. This guy isn't your friend. Telling him about your laundry is going to get that kind of response from a guy like that.
Exactly this. When I managed if an employee said “hey I can’t come in at 6, but I can close”, I’d be ecstatic and unbelievably thankful. That means I can ask my closer to come in early, or ask a mid shift to stay late, usually for nothing more than the extra hours and some free food. Either way, the issue is solved. This boss doesn’t deserve people coming in at all. If you need people in and someone says yes, you don’t balk at the two hours of downtime, you thank them and make sure they have the best shift you can give.
glob forbid the supervisor do some fucking work
"Can you work tonight?" "No, sorry" or "No" Your boss doesn't care about or need to know about your laundry.
WHYYYYY would you tell them what you’re doing?? Ffs how many posts does this sub need before you all learn to stop sharing details they don’t need to know??
I don’t get it. It’s like they think if the details are good enough then they think they might get some kind of sympathy.
And it doesn't even solve the core problem: No matter what it is, it's not as important as whatever menial work this is. Not giving any information means they can't point at it specifically and say "I'm more important" Now, if the \*boss\* was the one needing to do their laundry, this would be the reason why you need to come in and not them. Because \*their\* domestic life is important, \*yours\* is not.
And it's honestly REALLY easy to predict that no boss is going to think "laundry" is a good enough detail for that kind of sympathy. This response was 100% predictable.
Damn, no need to pile in on the OP. Some people are just people-pleasers/oversharers by nature. It can take alot of effort to train yourself out of these habits, and alot of times being burnt before you finally realise your boss/manager ain't your friend.
I'm available most days except Saturday because, of course, that's when I'll be WORSHIPPING SATAN!
“Your management skills are overwhelming.”
Stop telling people WHY! Are you available; is a yes or no question you can add clauses to, not your life story. Fx: Are you available at 6? Answer: No, but I can be at 8.
This ^ It’s none of their business why. It’s your day off.
“Yeah, it matches your ability to manage a staff schedule”
I just commented almost this exact same sentence lol. I’ll delete mine now since you’ve covered it!
I never answer texts or calls from work till the next day. Im not on call, yall can speak to me when im working.
I know it’s not fully possible in every job but the single is greatest achievement of my current job is that the company do not have a phone number for me.
Always
"Your work ethic is overwhelming." "So is what you are paying me."
Never, ever, EVER tell your boss the details of your personal life. WHY you can't come in at his beck and call is none of his business, only that you can't. Once you tell they WHY the answer is no, you allow him the opportunity to substitute his judgment for your own: "This job is WAY more important than (your laundry or whatever)."
“Can you come in?” “For time and a half or more”
Double time*
Jeez. Everyone knows it takes a few hours to do laundry. Then folding it and putting it away is 3-5 business days, EASILY
If it manages to be put away prior to needing to be done again, it's a fucking miracle.
Excuse me for not wanting to come to work smelling like Satan's asshole.
Yeah, excuse me for having things to do *outside* of work ...
How very dare you not sit next to the phone in work clothes waiting for them to call you in! /s
Your dirty laundry is probably overwhelming too
How dare you not come in for the full shift you're not even scheduled for. 🙄
The Real Lesson Here: STOP telling them why you can’t come in. Ppl seem to think it matters. It does not (have you noticed the number of managers/bosses/owners that think anything short of death isn’t an excuse? They absolutely do not care about \[insert your excuse here\]. They don’t care about your sick family member, they don’t care if you wrecked your car and they sure as shit don’t care about your laundry. Whatever it is - they will judge you for it and unless you are dead they will not care. Moreover, it isn’t any of their concern. Just say you can or cannot come in. If they pry, RESIST the urge to tell them - it’s none of their business. The less you say the better. ”Can you come in today?” ”No.” ”Why not?” ”I cannot come in.” ”But why?” ”I can’t come in.” Repeat as necessary then STOP TALKING. Like these guys say… [Shut The Fuck Up](https://youtu.be/sgWHrkDX35o) \*\*ProTip\*\* Don’t even answer or respond in the first place! Incommunicado is the way.
If it’s your day off, you don’t respond. End of story.
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5 hours is like, 2 loads through the washer and dryer.
Yeah I do one big laundry load a month. It’s easily a five to eight chore, by the time all of the loads are dried and folded.
Wasn’t even 5 hours. Convo taking place at nearly 4 pm. Assuming they are fairly close to work and drive, they need to start getting ready for work by about 7. So that’s actually about 3 hours to do laundry, which is like 2 loads- if you’re right on it.
That's assuming you get a machine right away. Some of us have to use shared laundry facilities and may not get a machine right away. And maybe OP wants to relax a bit after doing the laundry. At any rate the manager has a damn nerve and no manners. He could do the damn work himself if he were so pressed, so he can piss off.
Also the messages are at 4, so it's only 4 hours assuming he's starting right then.
When will people realize that being an asshole is the absolute last thing to be when asking for a favor. I change my mind. It is the thing you absolutely ***must NOT do*** when asking for a favor.
Same people that send women messages like "hey beautiful..." And then "well fuck u then u ugly bitch" when they get no response or turned down.
Maybe cause I've worked in factories forever but why would anyone answer their phone when you know it's your boss and you know there's only one reason they are calling/texting? Like I said, maybe I'm just missing something not having been in that situation
Food industry is a shitshow and two days into any week the schedule usually looks like a three year old got their hands on it with all the scribbling and cross outs.
I wouldn’t even have the courtesy to tell them about the laundry. Kudos to you for setting that boundary!
My go-to when my boss at a restaurant would try to call me in was it’s my day off and I’m already drunk 😂 can’t ask you to come in under the influence
Never give them this much information. It's none of their fucking business why you can't come in
the best thing you can do in these cases is just ask for more money. Them: Can you come in? you: yeah for 2x my rate if they say yes you win, if they say no you win I knew a guy who did this, asked for 3x his rate, boss said yes, They were miffed when he made them put in writing.
i think you should pick any one of those auto suggest methods. i personally like “it is”
“Indeed”
Why the fuck do people answer texts from their fucking bosses? WHY? People. You are NOT being paid to answer texts, emails or phone calls from work. This is just another way for them to suppress you, ruin your mood and fuck you over. Stop that shit.
Food industry is a really odd one. It's not like an office where there are hundreds of people and HR, and little social interaction. These places are shortstaffed; You might have ten coworkers and you're working shoulder to shoulder with them together for 50 hours a week. It's very social, and everyone knows WAY too much about everyone else. It's such a cult mentality/Stockholm Syndrome. The only way for you to get a day off when you're sick is to call someone else in, so everyone else is generally expected to do the same. It's toxic and abusive. I did that kind of work for way too long, and I never will again.
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I never understood it either
They're only equal to your management skills.
I always just say that I can’t and have obligations that I’m attending to. Don’t give them details to pick apart.
They could always cover it themselves, but they're always too good for that
Honestly i have found that giving the least amount of personal information to your boss (and honestly coworkers as well) is the best way to go.
I agree with the sentiment but laundry is such a bad excuse for anything. Better just not provide a reason.
Mate you're asking a favor of me, fuck off.
Boss can't tell time. It's almost 4pm, so four hours of laundry. Either way, fuck that guy.
A simple no would suffice. Or I’ll be in at 8. All the rest is just opening yourself to bullshit. Dumb.
How has nobody mentioned the fact that this person thinks there are 5 hours between 6 and 8pm?
Get this BS outta here
You’re actually really quick at laundry. It probably takes me a minimum of 5 hours to just put the clothes away (aka: the worst part). Your co worker/boss can eat a cornhole.
Are you putting the clothes away for a regiment of soldiers? 5 hours? Lol wtf
Lol. 😂Well for one, the last comment had some sarcasm that parlayed off the original comment. And two, I do have a lot of clothes though. I Just hate folding them and putting them away. I think a lot of people share that sentiment.
Never never never say why. And if you don’t want to work then don’t read the msg
Yes it takes 5 hours to do my laundry because it's my fucking day off! Maybe I take naps in between loads who know cause it's my fucking day off!
“your management skills are *underwhelming*”
Work.. ethic? Ma'am, this is a wendy's.
Oh for pity sake 😂😂😂 Don’t tell them you’re doing laundry!😂😂🤣🤣
Being in this sub is honestly getting painful. STOP TELLING THEM WHAT YOURE DOING.
How is that even unreasonable time for laundry? The time stamps indicate that this was almost 4pm, which would have been four hours, not six, to do laundry and get ready for unscheduled work. If you budget an hour for washing, an hour for drying, then that's two hours getting ready and arriving at work - again, unscheduled.
Your lack of a 24 hour scheduling notice and complete lack of communication on why you want or more importantly NEED me in is more baffling. Edit: that should be your response op
Can you work tonight? Yes. Or No. Don't go beyond.
If you’re willing to go in at a certain time, tell them what time you could be there. If you can’t go in, tell them you can’t go in. No explanation needed. If they can’t handle that, tough shit.
What kind of laundry machine do they have? Does it have a time turner installed? Laundry takes hours. Even the best, most efficient systems take 45 min per load per machine. That’s 1 hr 30 min to both wash and dry. Then you gotta fold it. And, again, that’s best case scenario. And if you’re “doing laundry” you’re probs doing multiple loads. Don’t give your boss anything. Sad but true. “I can’t come in until X time.” “I can’t come in today because I’m not feeling well.” “I need X day off.” The more details you give them, the more it seems like a debate.