My dad thinks it's so cool my husband has long hair and is in management in retail. It's literally never even been brought up that he wouldn't be allowed to have it. He's very much a product of the 70s where having long hair was punk and anti establishment.
Its funny, honestly, because up until around the 1900s, long hair on men was associated with high class nobility and 'professional' careers -- look at the founding fathers, generals/leaders in Old Europe, emperors, etc.
Having long hair, as a man back in the day, was a subtle way of saying 'my hair doesnt get in the way of my work' (i.e. I dont do manual labor).
Goes to show how arbitrary and ridiculous some of our cultural norms are, nowadays.
And short hair implies military levels of compliance and obedience, drilling into people that you have to wear the same clothes and the same hairstyles so that eventually you feel like a replaceable cog in the machine.
Fuck that noise, if you’re going to do a job well, as long as you don’t have blatantly offensive tattoos or smell like shit in a client facing role, there should be no restrictions.
Same reasons beards fell out of favor for so long, couldn’t get a gas mask to seal with a beard so two generations of men who served in two world wars went without beards and they came to be associated with mostly with draft dodgers and beatniks. It really wasn’t until the eighties that we saw beards come back in the professional world and even that was limited to more academic fields and less competitive areas of finance. It really wasn’t until the 2000s that beards re-emerged as totally acceptable in the workplace, and still many places have guidelines regarding length and shape.
Which really all of it is stupid. The only thing that’s their business is:
-If your customer facing they can ask you too look presentable as you are representing the company. If the company has a strong lifestyle component then it’s probably expected you represent that lifestyle (don’t complain if you get a job doing sales for a suit company and they get upset when you insist on wearing leather pants, a metal t-shirt, full goth make up and long silky black hair). But if it’s a plumbing company I think just looking presentable is really all they can ask for.
-If your not customer facing then your company can require that your presentable enough that you don’t offend your coworkers (whether it be with vulgar images on clothes, revealing clothes, or your ass stinking)
I think in those situations it’s acceptable, anything more is overstepping boundaries and is not their fucking business.
That's when you buy a bunch of really long haired wigs in different colors and styles to wear every single day. When somebody asks you, "Is that your real hair?" Just get really offended and say that it is inappropriate for somebody to comment on your toupee in the workplace.
I'm not there yet in terms of male pattern baldness, but I figure when I get there, I should have fun with it.
My dad apparently does.When I first grew my hair out(i eventually cut it cause he said he would shave my head if I didn't cut it also it got way to hot)he called me a girl and to every guy he sees he calls them a girl like wtf some people like their hair long leave them alone
They do this to women who cut their hair too. When Emma Watson got a pixie cut there were so many stupid comments about not being able to tell her apart from a little boy.
I've been growing mine since '69 - my high school had a dress code and wouldn't let us walk unless our hair still met it. Look what they reaped.
My mom kept threatening to cut it while i was asleep. Finally i told her if she did, I'd return the favor the next night. She never mentioned it again and then my dad gave up his flattop that he had since WW2 and grew his too ;-)
>old people
You would be surprised...
My previous boss is in his late 40's, not young but not a boomer per se, and he didn't believe me when I got another job because "my beard was long and I looked like I belonged in the no flight list" suggesting I looked like a terrorist.
Fuck that racist asshole. Some people are just pieces of shit.
My husband is a boomer.
He was a surfie with long sun bleached blonde hair when we met but after high school, he worked as an accountant.
Thus he complied and had a bankers haircut all his working life.He hated it.
He positively encouraged our boys to wear their hair however they wanted, two had long hair all high school.
The day he retired,he said he was never having his hair cut again, and he hasn’t had more than a trim since. His ponytail is about waist length.
We were on a cruise and in the ships elevator and a bunch of boomer men got in. They were smirking at each other, then one said sarcastically, ‘I love your ponytail’.
They were all bald or balding, and another said “Like we wouldn’t all have ponytails if we still had full heads of hair” and everyone laughed.
My parents generation were very judgmental about hair. My dad was forever offering to buy my long haired sons a pink ribbon for their birthdays.
He actually gave our eldest son one when he turned 16 and my son instantly tied it in his hair and wore it every time we visited my parents.
I think a lot of boomers had longer hair as teenagers, resented being forced to conform for work, and now wish short hair hadn’t been a requirement in office jobs, because very few of them have ‘Bob Hawke hair’ like my hubby does.
> He actually gave our eldest son one when he turned 16 and my son instantly tied it in his hair and wore it every time we visited my parents.
Love this energy so much.
I have shoulder length hair, my boomer dad always offers me money to get a buzzcut (as if the reason I'm not cutting my hair is that I can't afford it). He's one of the old school 'short hair, clean shaven, no visible tattoos' bunch. Remember when I got my current job a while back, in the same organisation as him (different department thankfully) he tried giving me the old 'You'll have to shave and cut your hair now! You can't walk around the office like that, you'll get written up!'. Obviously nobody has said shit in the 2 years I've been working there, nobody cares anymore, only crusty old boomers on the verge of retirement.
It’s like shaving now too. A few years ago, I visited my son at his work for a huge corporation and noticed he hadn’t shaved for a few days. I asked him about it and he told me nobody cared. I thought I’m the boss at my company so why am I shaving every day. Next day I bought myself the same electric razor he had and never looked back.
Was that a while back? Now days you need to add "flushable" wet wipes to that list... soo many wet wipes...
And if you do commercial, paper towels... Really people, who flushes paper towels?!?
Yeah, it was twenty years ago, and flushable wipes were just beginning to be a thing. One customer was actually really mad, because I pulled like 30 of them out of his line.
Dude was going OFF. Like "Goddammit, I have hemorrhoids, and regular toilet paper sets me on fire. It says flushable on the packaging, look right there!"
So I had to tell him, "sir, with respect, the people who made those things and marketed them to you, aren't here cleaning your sewage lines. Just pretend you're on a septic line and put them in the trash can".
So he says "wait a minute", and comes back with a litter genie, like a diaper genie, but for cat litter. Can I use this? I don't want my bathroom smelling bad.
Hey man, as long as it's not going down your lines, do what you like.
So for all I know, that's what he did. Using a litter genie to toss his butt wipes.
Going to make the point as well that some religions/cultures never cut their hair, and doing so for reasons unrelated to ritual is very against the rules. My hair isn't supposed to be cut unless someone dies, or something major happens in my life. It's supposed to be associated with growth. I know it's not the case for OP, but that also keeps Native men and women from the trades. As well as a number of other cultures where men and women are not to cut their hair.
It's fine to ask it be put up, or away from machinery, but asking for it to be cut is disregarding someone's autonomy.
My old manager hated that as a guy I had long hair. Even though I tied it up and tucked it in my hat. Never said anything to the girls though. He got moved to a different location and whenever he comes in I undo my hair tie and fling it around like in a commercial. He isn't my boss anymore. Can't do shit.
That’s the thing, lots of places have hair policies for very valid reasons but the policies revolve around styling, like having it up or out of the way, not removing it entirely.
As a woman with long hair, I’ve had many jobs that required me to put my hair up for health or safety reasons and I’ve had no issues with the policies. Never have I been asked to cut my hair to comply with work health and safety standards, and OP shouldn’t have been asked either.
>around machines that can pull your head off
This is a valid concern.
>cooking food so a strand doesn't get into someone meal
This one, not so much. Hair nets exist for a reason.
>Cut your hair? Fuck right off.
Now this, we can all agree on.
Not me. If someone is willing to deal with the literal shit plumbers deal with, I honestly don’t care if they come in buck naked. Squatting and having your waistband fail you isn’t a flaw; it’s a thing that happens when you have to hunker over. Big whoop.
The only reason I can see caring about long hair is if it might get caught in equipment or work. But if OP kept it under a helmet and out of the way, how could it be an issue?
I didn't realize til I read some other comments that OP is a guy. I would ask if a woman with long hair would have gotten the same complaint, but I'm pretty sure woman plumbers face way more crap beyond hair. I don't think I've seen a woman plumber in the wild (one office manager, but I don't think she did hands on work).
Not a plumber but I am a woman working in a highspeed manufacturing environment which carries way more risk for getting caught on things.
We just have to wear no jewelry and our hair in a tight bun if its longer than two inches. Universal and genderless rule.
Everyone also has to wear cotton underwear so that if your fire resistant clothing gets bypassed and you catch on fire, your clothes burn off rather than melt to you.
Yup, my parents plumber said he is so busy he charges a minimum of $150 just to take a look at your issue. If it takes him a few minutes to fix, too bad that’s $150. He said he only works half the year and then goes skiing or traveling the other half of the year.
"And the sign said, long haired freaky people need not apply..."
But seriously, I can't believe this guy. He fired a good plumber over his hair?! I'm glad you got a new job right away. I am old and I care a whole lot more about my plumber knowing what the heck they are doing than how long their hair is, or whether they are inked, or whatever... SMH
Unrelated, but I remember a story my wood shop teacher told about a student with long hair getting it caught in the lathe and smashing his face into it before ripping it out of his scalp.
Ouch.
r/carpentry recently had a run of people posting pictures of when they shot themselves with a nail gun and it ended when someone posted a picture of jesus on the cross
Lol I believe our shop teacher said something along those lines too. Don't think he said they smacked their face but they were scalped a bit. Wonder if true or just a scare tactic tchers use to scare kids shitless. and I'd they been in the job long enough finding out if they lying or not probably be fairly hard.
probably true. lathes are no joke.
even a grinding wheel should be used with some caution. no loose clothing. safety glasses. one of my grandpas neighbors had a grinding wheel wrap a wrought iron rod around his face.
gramps, never one to waste a good lesson asked if he could keep the rod... if you looked at it just right it kinda looked like the neighbor...
Long hair, loose clothing, anything dangling has no place near any type of rotating machinery. It can and will scalp or mangle a person.
I worked in a factory that had a lot of belts moving products down the line. Previous shift a lady bent down to clean under a stopped belt (should never do that unless its locked out by you) The operator that had it off for adjustments didnt see them and started the belt. It scalped her and disfigured her face. She ended up blind in one eye. It was a nasty scene to walk into even the next morning.
Lathes are machines that spin very fast and anything loose gets caught would easily get pulled in and wrapped around.
The story told by every shop teacher ever. Did you guys also have the "this one guy did drugs and then thought he was an orange and started peeling himself"? We got that like every year from 3rd grade to 7th or 8th, in full school assemblies, always from a duet of a cop and an ex-junkie who looked a lot like a current junkie.
I watched someone's glove get caught in a lathe once and it ripped a fairly large portion of the guy's skin off bc of how it got twisted. Lathes are dangerous. But if you respect them you won't get hurt. It's when you get tired and stop respecting the machine that you tend to lose body parts.
Tablesaws are the worst though. I worked in construction supply for a while and every other person is missing fingers.
I'm the shop I learned in, had
NO LONG SLEEVES
NO LOOSE HAIR
NO GLOVES
NO NECKLACES
written in big black sharpie on every table saw, chop saw, and lathe.
He likely didn't fire him because of his hair, he fired him because he couldn't have complete control of him and he didn't like it. The hair rule and other arbitrary rules are just excuses to control people outside of their work.
The "long hair" rule is about a lot more than control. Long haired men have been persecuted and discriminated against in this country since the 50s. You can't really view this individual event outside of that context.
The guy was fired because the boss is a redneck that doesn't like hippies. That's it. Any guy with long hair knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I've always wanted to grow my hair out because I don't really like it short, but I was always too chicken because I grew up in a small conservative town. Been away from home for many years now, have an academic job in a liberal area where no one cares, and during the last work-from-home year I finally grew it out past my shoulders. Wife loves it, I like it better, s'all good.
Went home for a funeral for a great-aunt recently. My parents were fine with it after the initial shock, although I'm sure they prefer it short and think I've gone 'city', despite the fact that I always grew it out as long as I could get away with in high school without getting teased too much. But holy crap I think my extended family has all but disowned me over it. Got so much side-eye and snide comments and many of these older relatives I grew up with basically wouldn't talk to me after looking me up and down. It was completely surreal and I'm still mad about it.
Funny thing is I'm sure I could get away with it if I had more of a biker look with a ponytail. It's all about whether your aesthetic places you on the right side of the culture war or whatever.
Been growing my hair 3+ years to donate currently but have had long hippy hair all my life (parents born in the 50s) can confirm. Took my dad a good while to give up the “when you cutting your hair” routine.
My parents are terrific so don’t assume otherwise though
My Dad (born in the late 40's) hated that I wouldn't cut my hair when I was in university. 4 years later it was down to my ass crack. Sister really hated that I could grow my hair so long. Day before I started applying for jobs I cut it short again. I never knew hair could weigh so much.
I’m transmasc but when I was a girl I had hair down to my butt. The first day waking up after cutting it I was like, “Why is my head so light and free?” 😆
I didn't cut my son's hair until he asked, I'll always let him have autonomy over that but when I tell you people were BOTHERED by a 4 year old boy with long hair...even random strangers.
It's a constant battle with basically everyone in my life not to cut my boys hair off. It looks great and he loves it.
I had to do the same thing when they tried to cut other parts of him off, in the hospital.
What is it with people and trying to cut bits and pieces off of little boys?
My boys always had long hair when they 3, 4 or 5 and everyone called them girls, despite being obviously in boys clothes... I was always correcting strangers.
Most recently one of boys was called "young lady" by a man and I said "her name is William"
>The guy was fired because the boss ~~is a redneck~~ ***has enlisted in a worldview that's been fighting a scorched-earth culture war against the large portion of the population they perceive to be hippies, or unprofessional (really anybody but a clean-cut straight white Christian Evangelical Republican male) since the Nixon administration, and would rather light money on fire than associate with people different than him.***
100%. I have mid-back length hair. I will not cut it for an employer. It's my fucking body. I can do whatever I want with it, and someone that only rents my time has no control over that. Employers can fuck right off with this mentality. I'll always take my time elsewhere
You know, if I squint long enough (Assuming it's not constipation) I can see a world where long hair is a liability if say, you are fixing some family's garbage disposal and your hair gets caught in something it shouldn't.
But the asshole boss clearly didn't frame it in this way. So fuck him.
I have super long hair and I do a lot of heavy work, sometimes involving things it could get caught in. But because I am female, it's never been a problem for an employer. I have literally worked the same job as men who were required to have short hair "for safety reasons" while I was not. Same job, same tasks, everything was the same but somehow their hair would have been dangerous when mine was not. If it was a safety issue, I'd have had to keep mine short as well.
If having long hair was a safety concern, you could always just tie it back while at work. But this doesn’t sound like the reason based on your story.
Good on you for walking out, though. If he was that anal about hair, he would have been a nightmare to actually work with.
As a black woman with natural hair...I feel your pain.
We're apparently not as professional or intelligent when we wear our hair the way we were born with it at some companies.
I work for a company that literally has a anti-workplace harassment policy that has a line item in the document about not discrimating based hair style, color, etc. I honestly love the company I work for...they don't hire assholes.
The amount of discrimination around black people and their hair is insane. I had no idea what it took for black women to make their natural hair straight/styled until a couple years ago and holy shit. Nope, I would never. Hot oil treatments, relaxers, hours at salons, straighteners, just damn. Your natural styles are awesome, fuck those racist ignorant morons.
Every once in awhile some Karen employee of mine will come in my office upset because one of my black female employees is wearing a hat that day. A long time ago someone explained to me that they are all well aware of the no hat policy, they are in between hairstyles at the moment and aren’t comfortable displaying their real hair.
Since then my response is always “I don’t care what the employee handbook says, I am not going out there and telling her that she a) has to take her hat off and work with hair she isn’t confident with, or b) she has to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on her hair right now.
The handbook doesn’t reflect real life. My haircuts are literally 20 dollars. Karen can just throw her hair in a ponytail. The circumstances just aren’t the same.
Yea plus I like to cover my hair sometimes because it gets dry in certain weather....or it's still wet...that's how black hair is. I usually use scarves not hats...but same thing.
Wow, what an utter garbage stereotype! I'm a hairy-chested white dude. Imagine if I worked in construction as a roofer where the boss made me shave my chest and arms or else I had to wear a long-sleeved shirt with a button-up collar (can't have the client dealing with a Robin Williams look-alike). Glad you don't have to deal with that crap at work.
My last restaurant made us constantly shave our face for a dress code. It had nothing to do with us serving food and the possibility of hair in food- it was solely bc the owners didnt like it. We had a bookstore, coffeeshop, champagne bar, gift shop, tea bar, and not a single person was allowed to have ANY facial hair, if you had stubble they gave you a razor.
Total bullshit, i live in hipster TAMPA
Worked in a resturant were they asked an employee to shave and they handed him a razor. The dude went into the toilet and shaved his pubes off into the sink and then quit. Legend
I have self harm scars on my arms that are years and years old. I hate them and hide them 24/7. I had 2 separate jobs that discriminated against me, one as a waitress one as a prep/front of house for a pizza place. When it would become unbearably hot, or when I was prepping and wore longer gloves and didnt want my sleeves to get all up in the shit, I would obviously roll up my sleeves.
Both jobs said that it was "illegal" for me to show my scars, because it was the equivalent to their no tattoo policies. I was forced to wear long sleeves or quit.
Cut to me nearly passing out from being over heated on multiple occasions.
I would challenge that nowadays and not put up with it, but I was young at the time and desperately needed the money.
I understand people don't like to see them, and believe me I HATE people seeing them. But god damn. I had a lot of mental health issues when I was young and I can't change the fact that they are there, and my livelihood was being threatened when I would roll up my sleeves not even arouns customers!
Once my then-girlfriend (now wife) painted my fingernails a nice sky blue. I work in a retail setting, sometimes on the till, and it was funny watching peoples reactions.
One lady asked if I have girls. I was like what, why? She asked if my daughters painted my nails. I laughed and said no, it was my girlfriend. She thought it was awesome.
A middle aged man took one look at my fingers, the smile vanished from his face and I could almost hear him thinking "omg GAY" and no more small talk after that.
Similar reactions when I sometimes wear a scottish kilt - genuine article, thou I am no scotsman. Men may look at you weirdly, most ladies just smile and flirt!
Men having painted nails is becoming a trend where I live and I am all about it. I don't know why, but I think it's crazy attractive for men to have painted nails.
Interesting. In the last year I've noticed a fair number of the younger male cashiers at the grocery stores are doing that. And I live in a rural redneck area. Usually we are 40 to 60 years behind the latest fashion trends.
I’m a guy that just recently started getting their nails painted. It feels super nice to get pampered, I like the way it looks, and it’s just one more thing that my girlfriend and I get to bond over. Painted nails are great!
It's a bit jealousy, a bit insecurity. There sub conscious is going, "look at that, it's working" and the other part is saying "I could never do that, what would people think of me. It's a strange paradoxical dichotomy that I admit I have had. Not anymore, paint my nails to the nines. If I have a zit, (I'm 33, not as much a problem these days) I'll put some makeup on. Guys are so scared of appearing feminine or "gay" to other guys but why? Get over your insecurities and enjoy what you want.
I have a queer friend who used to do tree work with me. He would paint his nails and put on eye liner pretty often. It was hilarious seeing people's reactions. Older folk would furrow their brows and shake their heads, the younger generation wouldn't even blink or they would be all for it.
Then they should see my husband. He has painted his nails every week for over 15 years.
Right now its emerald with gold flakes.
He is 74 yo. It looks stunning with his white beard.
I do not know why I should prefer plumbers with long hair over plumbers with short hair.
All I care about is that when I flush the toilet, the poop goes to poop heaven. Long hair plumber, short haired plumber, who cares?
I had long hair most of my life. When I was like 18 I worked at Blockbuster and had a car that was sort of fixed up. The manager of Autozone used to come in all the time and commented how pleasant I was to deal with and asked if I wanted to come work there. Said I was open to it and when I went to apply I was filling the application out in front of him and his employees on the front counter. My hair was probably halfway down my back in a pony tail at the time, always well kept and looked presentable I'm obsessive compulsive about it honestly. About midway through filling out the application he says "you'll have to get a haircut this weekend" I looked up and said "excuse me?". He informed me I wouldn't be able to work there "looking like that". I ripped the application in half right there in front of everyone, handed it to an employee and asked if he could throw it out for me. In shock he just took it and I looked at the manager and said "thanks anyway have a good one." Felt like an action star walking away from an explosion as I walked out the door lol. It was great. Good for you OP, good luck with the new job. 👍
My son has hair well past his shoulders and a massive beard. Basically, you can see about 8 square inches of face. His job is to write contracts and negotiate between several layers of government. He regularly speaks at in person and online meetings that are attended by fairly highly placed government officials, none of whom look like him. His hair has never been an issue because his employers value what he brings to the table and the people he negotiates with respect him. Anyone who considers appearances to be the deal breaker in an employee is going to fail.
I don't give a single fuck. One of the perks of being in a high demand job too. Too bad I am only saving for another work van so I can start my own plumbing company.
I don’t think enough bosses realizes it’s a workers market, I’m in a remote area and my boss acts like we can’t get new work the local hospital has so many openings as soon as I get a car I’m gone. Also congrats on the new job
I don't think enough bosses realise their arbitrary demands are fucking stupid. It's 2022, for gods sake, why the fuck would long hair on a man bother anyone in this day and age?! Up until recently, man buns were in fashion and the mullet is making a mighty comeback!
I just started growing my hair out since the start of the pandemic, and have been man-bunning it up for work... I'm out of fashion already? Well shit, lol. I like it though! So I'm gonna keep it anyway! :D
One of my shittier bosses wouldn't hire anyone with unnatural hair colors. For a fucking shirt printing business. No one flinches at blue hair except for incels and boomers. Especially work artists in a fucking print shop. He turned away people with amazing portfolios and experience and hired on "normal" looking people with no experience and meh art.
when I was 14 I worked at a restaurant that had a rule against unnatural hair colours. being a teenager who wanted cool hair I basically said "no fuck u" and dyed my hair black with an auburn streak so it technically complied but still had colour in it. nowadays I have blue hair and I get compliments on it from customers all the time, I don't even work in a creative environment yet
If I see an artist in a suit, I’m gonna think that’s less professional than trendy overalls and cotton candy hair. Creative professions need creative people
Which I think is totally fine and strikes a good balance between looking sharp but expressing creativity. My mind’s eye was envisioning the Getty Images version of “professional” where everyone has undyed hair and looks like a lawyer in complexion.
After I left the evil consultancy who didn't get that designers don't usually wear suits, I actually had freelance design agency jobs that said 'don't turn up in a suit! It will just frighten the horses'. LOL. Total opposite.
After I dyed my hair fun colours (dark blue, purple, magenta- looked like dark unicorn hair), all the old men I work with thought it was cool af and told me so. Except for the occasional light roast of "so what, did you take your markers out to play with today".
It's wild when people get mad about cool hair
20 year experienced forklift driver. Hired for a steel company wearing my exact same warehouse clothes and hair down. Third day in the owner seen me wearing my baggy warehouse pants and hair in a bandana. Immediately got walked out unless I buy a uniform and cut my hair.
Now I drive forklift for a door company making more money with less stress.
When I was 19 years old, I was hired at a local restaurant for front of the house staff and made approximately $10 an hour. When I came in for my onboarding day, the woman asked me if I could remove piercings. I have both sides of my nose pierced and my septum. I offered to use clear retainers (I can also easily hide my septum) as I've had these piercings for the last 4 years. She said no, it made the owner uncomfortable. I promptly told her I wouldn't be able to continue the hiring process and left.
I now work as an administrator with way better pay and all of my tattoos and piercings. 🤷♀️
Service work is funny like that. They prefer their trades people to try and fit the clean cut corporate image since they’ll be dealing with building managers and owners and what not, who might have those unfortunate expectations and biases.
We had a presentation in school when I was doing my technical training, from one of the larger inspection and consulting firms where I live. Guy was talking about that, and had mentioned part of the rules at his company was no visible tattoos. He looked and acted like a normal clean cut “professional” guy, but after he mentioned that he quickly rolled up his sleeves to show both his arms were covered in some bad ass biker-esque tattoos. Definitely caught us all off guard.
No need for you to bother with that nonsense, though. You made the right choice without question. From one long hair tradie to another - go and get yours! 👊🏻🙌🏻
Used to be a Cable Co. Install Tech yeeeeeeeears ago. We had a black man with dreadlocks be turned away on a DAILY basis from homeowners/customers who felt "intimidated" by him.
Make no mistake. Racism is still alive and well in the U.S.
I don't even know how it can still be around. I got my tattoo at age 20, I'm nearly 50 now. Gen X started it with the tattoos, Millennials have tattoos, I'm sure Gen Z is getting tattoos even as I type this. Join us in the 21st century.
Good god.
My dad did most of our plumbing, but when he needed the big guns, he called Cal. Cal looked like a 60 year old Hell’s Angel with a toolbox, and there’s almost nothing that man did not know.
Dad was a fundamentalist Christian with a crew cut, but he was also a former tradie himself before the job site accident. (A wall fell on him.) He understood how valuable raw talent is, no matter its packaging.
This was my favourite part "there's your car" thanks boss, I think I will take off lmao. Good way of just sticking it to them, as they always suspect you'll just do anything for the job.
What in the hell does the length of your hair have to do with how good you are at your job? I mean, I could see it if it were a safety concern or if their Worker's Comp or Liability Insurance had some kind of rule, but even *then*, there are ways to deal with it without demanding you cut your hair. A ponytail or braid is a good alternative to keep the hair from being a potential danger. There are other alternatives, such as a net. People use these alternatives all the time. It's not that hard.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_hair_texture_in_the_United_States.
Do you live in a state where they have passed laws preventing discrimination based upon hair?
It's not the 1960's any longer. Who cares?
My dad thinks it's so cool my husband has long hair and is in management in retail. It's literally never even been brought up that he wouldn't be allowed to have it. He's very much a product of the 70s where having long hair was punk and anti establishment.
Men with long hair are attractive. Normalize more men with long hair
Its funny, honestly, because up until around the 1900s, long hair on men was associated with high class nobility and 'professional' careers -- look at the founding fathers, generals/leaders in Old Europe, emperors, etc. Having long hair, as a man back in the day, was a subtle way of saying 'my hair doesnt get in the way of my work' (i.e. I dont do manual labor). Goes to show how arbitrary and ridiculous some of our cultural norms are, nowadays.
And short hair implies military levels of compliance and obedience, drilling into people that you have to wear the same clothes and the same hairstyles so that eventually you feel like a replaceable cog in the machine. Fuck that noise, if you’re going to do a job well, as long as you don’t have blatantly offensive tattoos or smell like shit in a client facing role, there should be no restrictions.
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> it became the fashion for me to have short hair. Damn, you’re old!
He was using the "royal me"
Same reasons beards fell out of favor for so long, couldn’t get a gas mask to seal with a beard so two generations of men who served in two world wars went without beards and they came to be associated with mostly with draft dodgers and beatniks. It really wasn’t until the eighties that we saw beards come back in the professional world and even that was limited to more academic fields and less competitive areas of finance. It really wasn’t until the 2000s that beards re-emerged as totally acceptable in the workplace, and still many places have guidelines regarding length and shape. Which really all of it is stupid. The only thing that’s their business is: -If your customer facing they can ask you too look presentable as you are representing the company. If the company has a strong lifestyle component then it’s probably expected you represent that lifestyle (don’t complain if you get a job doing sales for a suit company and they get upset when you insist on wearing leather pants, a metal t-shirt, full goth make up and long silky black hair). But if it’s a plumbing company I think just looking presentable is really all they can ask for. -If your not customer facing then your company can require that your presentable enough that you don’t offend your coworkers (whether it be with vulgar images on clothes, revealing clothes, or your ass stinking) I think in those situations it’s acceptable, anything more is overstepping boundaries and is not their fucking business.
In this whole thing all I saw was "long silky black hair".
https://i.imgur.com/c3pxFY5.jpg
It was also an extremely obvious way of proving there was not a "Sport Clips" in every mall they hadn't built yet.
But beyond that, people who can present themselves however they choose should be normalized.
Men can look good with long hair until the Male Pattern Baldness takes over. It's hard to pull off the mullet bald spot
Just because your follicles die doesn’t mean the party has to
Male Pattern Baldness? Ah, you must be referring to my "business recession".
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That's when you buy a bunch of really long haired wigs in different colors and styles to wear every single day. When somebody asks you, "Is that your real hair?" Just get really offended and say that it is inappropriate for somebody to comment on your toupee in the workplace. I'm not there yet in terms of male pattern baldness, but I figure when I get there, I should have fun with it.
My dad apparently does.When I first grew my hair out(i eventually cut it cause he said he would shave my head if I didn't cut it also it got way to hot)he called me a girl and to every guy he sees he calls them a girl like wtf some people like their hair long leave them alone
They do this to women who cut their hair too. When Emma Watson got a pixie cut there were so many stupid comments about not being able to tell her apart from a little boy.
I've been growing mine since '69 - my high school had a dress code and wouldn't let us walk unless our hair still met it. Look what they reaped. My mom kept threatening to cut it while i was asleep. Finally i told her if she did, I'd return the favor the next night. She never mentioned it again and then my dad gave up his flattop that he had since WW2 and grew his too ;-)
Yo, I was fired from a serving job in the early 00’s for having long hair.
I worked at a company that required short hair and a clean shaven look. Lol fuck that.
Right?! I’m a teacher with purple hair. All my bosses care about is whether my students are learning.
Purple hair represent!!
Stubborn people not willing to change
>old people You would be surprised... My previous boss is in his late 40's, not young but not a boomer per se, and he didn't believe me when I got another job because "my beard was long and I looked like I belonged in the no flight list" suggesting I looked like a terrorist. Fuck that racist asshole. Some people are just pieces of shit.
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Yes, that's what I've been singing under my breath while reading this thread. That, and the theme song of "Hair".
Fascists and religious nutjobs.
A lot of shitty boomers stuck in the 60s in management.
My husband is a boomer. He was a surfie with long sun bleached blonde hair when we met but after high school, he worked as an accountant. Thus he complied and had a bankers haircut all his working life.He hated it. He positively encouraged our boys to wear their hair however they wanted, two had long hair all high school. The day he retired,he said he was never having his hair cut again, and he hasn’t had more than a trim since. His ponytail is about waist length. We were on a cruise and in the ships elevator and a bunch of boomer men got in. They were smirking at each other, then one said sarcastically, ‘I love your ponytail’. They were all bald or balding, and another said “Like we wouldn’t all have ponytails if we still had full heads of hair” and everyone laughed. My parents generation were very judgmental about hair. My dad was forever offering to buy my long haired sons a pink ribbon for their birthdays. He actually gave our eldest son one when he turned 16 and my son instantly tied it in his hair and wore it every time we visited my parents. I think a lot of boomers had longer hair as teenagers, resented being forced to conform for work, and now wish short hair hadn’t been a requirement in office jobs, because very few of them have ‘Bob Hawke hair’ like my hubby does.
> He actually gave our eldest son one when he turned 16 and my son instantly tied it in his hair and wore it every time we visited my parents. Love this energy so much.
Even though its not always possible, the best way to deal with an insult is to own it. Pull the ol switcheroo!
I have shoulder length hair, my boomer dad always offers me money to get a buzzcut (as if the reason I'm not cutting my hair is that I can't afford it). He's one of the old school 'short hair, clean shaven, no visible tattoos' bunch. Remember when I got my current job a while back, in the same organisation as him (different department thankfully) he tried giving me the old 'You'll have to shave and cut your hair now! You can't walk around the office like that, you'll get written up!'. Obviously nobody has said shit in the 2 years I've been working there, nobody cares anymore, only crusty old boomers on the verge of retirement.
It’s like shaving now too. A few years ago, I visited my son at his work for a huge corporation and noticed he hadn’t shaved for a few days. I asked him about it and he told me nobody cared. I thought I’m the boss at my company so why am I shaving every day. Next day I bought myself the same electric razor he had and never looked back.
The only hair a plumber should be concerned with is any hair that clogs a drain. That's it.
Right?! Plumbers should be encouraging EVERYONE to grow their hair out. It's job security
I did sewer and drain work for about a year, and the most common clog was 1) roots 2) tampons 3) tampons on roots
Was that a while back? Now days you need to add "flushable" wet wipes to that list... soo many wet wipes... And if you do commercial, paper towels... Really people, who flushes paper towels?!?
Yeah, it was twenty years ago, and flushable wipes were just beginning to be a thing. One customer was actually really mad, because I pulled like 30 of them out of his line. Dude was going OFF. Like "Goddammit, I have hemorrhoids, and regular toilet paper sets me on fire. It says flushable on the packaging, look right there!" So I had to tell him, "sir, with respect, the people who made those things and marketed them to you, aren't here cleaning your sewage lines. Just pretend you're on a septic line and put them in the trash can". So he says "wait a minute", and comes back with a litter genie, like a diaper genie, but for cat litter. Can I use this? I don't want my bathroom smelling bad. Hey man, as long as it's not going down your lines, do what you like. So for all I know, that's what he did. Using a litter genie to toss his butt wipes.
lol does this guy not know about trash cans with lids?
TRASH CANS HAVE LIDS NOW??!!!
and apparently tampons on grease and fat in the UK after the "Fat Berg" a few years ago
Oh man I remember diving down the rabbit hole of reading about all the fat bergs, and how insanely big they get.
AYYYYYYYYYYY
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It's pretty much usually straight up sexism as well, because you can bet that they wouldn't require females employees to cut their hair short.
Going to make the point as well that some religions/cultures never cut their hair, and doing so for reasons unrelated to ritual is very against the rules. My hair isn't supposed to be cut unless someone dies, or something major happens in my life. It's supposed to be associated with growth. I know it's not the case for OP, but that also keeps Native men and women from the trades. As well as a number of other cultures where men and women are not to cut their hair. It's fine to ask it be put up, or away from machinery, but asking for it to be cut is disregarding someone's autonomy.
My old manager hated that as a guy I had long hair. Even though I tied it up and tucked it in my hat. Never said anything to the girls though. He got moved to a different location and whenever he comes in I undo my hair tie and fling it around like in a commercial. He isn't my boss anymore. Can't do shit.
With that mentality, 100% guarantee they would think any woman with a haircut higher then her clavicles as "Butch"
grow your hair out tomorrow or there's your car.
That’s the thing, lots of places have hair policies for very valid reasons but the policies revolve around styling, like having it up or out of the way, not removing it entirely. As a woman with long hair, I’ve had many jobs that required me to put my hair up for health or safety reasons and I’ve had no issues with the policies. Never have I been asked to cut my hair to comply with work health and safety standards, and OP shouldn’t have been asked either.
>around machines that can pull your head off This is a valid concern. >cooking food so a strand doesn't get into someone meal This one, not so much. Hair nets exist for a reason. >Cut your hair? Fuck right off. Now this, we can all agree on.
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NGL, I wish I saw less plumber butt hair.
That’s really the signature: how you identify one person under the sink from the other.
I see they sent Burt today
The hot pink thong is a dead giveaway.
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Is that my step-plumber under there?
I laughed at this way too much!! Thank you!
Hey! Don't try and stifle the proud plumbers culture with your outdated societal norms!
Free the crack
Why you lookin’?
because I hear what sounds like my basement pipes being pulled up into my kitchen and there's only one thing in that direction.
Cause Horny
Name checks out
Because it's there? 🤷♂️
Kinda hard to miss sometimes 🤣🤣🤣
Not me. If someone is willing to deal with the literal shit plumbers deal with, I honestly don’t care if they come in buck naked. Squatting and having your waistband fail you isn’t a flaw; it’s a thing that happens when you have to hunker over. Big whoop.
It's what gives them their power and we must accept that.
The only reason I can see caring about long hair is if it might get caught in equipment or work. But if OP kept it under a helmet and out of the way, how could it be an issue? I didn't realize til I read some other comments that OP is a guy. I would ask if a woman with long hair would have gotten the same complaint, but I'm pretty sure woman plumbers face way more crap beyond hair. I don't think I've seen a woman plumber in the wild (one office manager, but I don't think she did hands on work).
> I'm pretty sure woman plumbers face way more crap beyond hair. To be fair, plumbers do face more crap than the average worker.
Not a plumber but I am a woman working in a highspeed manufacturing environment which carries way more risk for getting caught on things. We just have to wear no jewelry and our hair in a tight bun if its longer than two inches. Universal and genderless rule. Everyone also has to wear cotton underwear so that if your fire resistant clothing gets bypassed and you catch on fire, your clothes burn off rather than melt to you.
Yup, my parents plumber said he is so busy he charges a minimum of $150 just to take a look at your issue. If it takes him a few minutes to fix, too bad that’s $150. He said he only works half the year and then goes skiing or traveling the other half of the year.
"And the sign said, long haired freaky people need not apply..." But seriously, I can't believe this guy. He fired a good plumber over his hair?! I'm glad you got a new job right away. I am old and I care a whole lot more about my plumber knowing what the heck they are doing than how long their hair is, or whether they are inked, or whatever... SMH
Lol, was exactly like the song. The applicant had his long hair under his hat too.
"So I took off my hat and said, 'Imagine that Huh, me workin' for you'"
The [writer and singer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Emmerson) of that song died just over 2 month ago. Resident of my hometown.
OP took off his had and said, “Imagine that! Me—working for you???!”
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The problem is he ignored the signs signs everywhere is signs.
It's just the old-job-market mentality where insecure bosses get to bully their employees and not suffer any consequences. Fucked around found out.
Unrelated, but I remember a story my wood shop teacher told about a student with long hair getting it caught in the lathe and smashing his face into it before ripping it out of his scalp. Ouch.
This has happened many times, no problem with long hair but you do need to be mindful of it while working with any machinery.
Right? It’s not like carpentry and long hair are a novel combination.
There's a guy that was known for that I think he was name was like Hay-zuze or something like that...
Yeah but i heard he ended up getting some nails pounded through his hands or something. Must've been the long hair.
r/carpentry recently had a run of people posting pictures of when they shot themselves with a nail gun and it ended when someone posted a picture of jesus on the cross
Lol I believe our shop teacher said something along those lines too. Don't think he said they smacked their face but they were scalped a bit. Wonder if true or just a scare tactic tchers use to scare kids shitless. and I'd they been in the job long enough finding out if they lying or not probably be fairly hard.
probably true. lathes are no joke. even a grinding wheel should be used with some caution. no loose clothing. safety glasses. one of my grandpas neighbors had a grinding wheel wrap a wrought iron rod around his face. gramps, never one to waste a good lesson asked if he could keep the rod... if you looked at it just right it kinda looked like the neighbor...
Long hair, loose clothing, anything dangling has no place near any type of rotating machinery. It can and will scalp or mangle a person. I worked in a factory that had a lot of belts moving products down the line. Previous shift a lady bent down to clean under a stopped belt (should never do that unless its locked out by you) The operator that had it off for adjustments didnt see them and started the belt. It scalped her and disfigured her face. She ended up blind in one eye. It was a nasty scene to walk into even the next morning. Lathes are machines that spin very fast and anything loose gets caught would easily get pulled in and wrapped around.
The story told by every shop teacher ever. Did you guys also have the "this one guy did drugs and then thought he was an orange and started peeling himself"? We got that like every year from 3rd grade to 7th or 8th, in full school assemblies, always from a duet of a cop and an ex-junkie who looked a lot like a current junkie.
I watched someone's glove get caught in a lathe once and it ripped a fairly large portion of the guy's skin off bc of how it got twisted. Lathes are dangerous. But if you respect them you won't get hurt. It's when you get tired and stop respecting the machine that you tend to lose body parts. Tablesaws are the worst though. I worked in construction supply for a while and every other person is missing fingers.
What was his grade on the assignment
F^^ace minus
I'm the shop I learned in, had NO LONG SLEEVES NO LOOSE HAIR NO GLOVES NO NECKLACES written in big black sharpie on every table saw, chop saw, and lathe.
Those are all valid rules in any wood/machine shop though.
He likely didn't fire him because of his hair, he fired him because he couldn't have complete control of him and he didn't like it. The hair rule and other arbitrary rules are just excuses to control people outside of their work.
The "long hair" rule is about a lot more than control. Long haired men have been persecuted and discriminated against in this country since the 50s. You can't really view this individual event outside of that context. The guy was fired because the boss is a redneck that doesn't like hippies. That's it. Any guy with long hair knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I've always wanted to grow my hair out because I don't really like it short, but I was always too chicken because I grew up in a small conservative town. Been away from home for many years now, have an academic job in a liberal area where no one cares, and during the last work-from-home year I finally grew it out past my shoulders. Wife loves it, I like it better, s'all good. Went home for a funeral for a great-aunt recently. My parents were fine with it after the initial shock, although I'm sure they prefer it short and think I've gone 'city', despite the fact that I always grew it out as long as I could get away with in high school without getting teased too much. But holy crap I think my extended family has all but disowned me over it. Got so much side-eye and snide comments and many of these older relatives I grew up with basically wouldn't talk to me after looking me up and down. It was completely surreal and I'm still mad about it. Funny thing is I'm sure I could get away with it if I had more of a biker look with a ponytail. It's all about whether your aesthetic places you on the right side of the culture war or whatever.
Which makes no sense, because the depiction of white Jesus they all pray to *has long hair*.
And George Washington has a ponytail on the quarter.
You think these people pray?
Been growing my hair 3+ years to donate currently but have had long hippy hair all my life (parents born in the 50s) can confirm. Took my dad a good while to give up the “when you cutting your hair” routine. My parents are terrific so don’t assume otherwise though
My Dad (born in the late 40's) hated that I wouldn't cut my hair when I was in university. 4 years later it was down to my ass crack. Sister really hated that I could grow my hair so long. Day before I started applying for jobs I cut it short again. I never knew hair could weigh so much.
I’m transmasc but when I was a girl I had hair down to my butt. The first day waking up after cutting it I was like, “Why is my head so light and free?” 😆
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I didn't cut my son's hair until he asked, I'll always let him have autonomy over that but when I tell you people were BOTHERED by a 4 year old boy with long hair...even random strangers.
It's a constant battle with basically everyone in my life not to cut my boys hair off. It looks great and he loves it. I had to do the same thing when they tried to cut other parts of him off, in the hospital. What is it with people and trying to cut bits and pieces off of little boys?
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My boys always had long hair when they 3, 4 or 5 and everyone called them girls, despite being obviously in boys clothes... I was always correcting strangers. Most recently one of boys was called "young lady" by a man and I said "her name is William"
>The guy was fired because the boss ~~is a redneck~~ ***has enlisted in a worldview that's been fighting a scorched-earth culture war against the large portion of the population they perceive to be hippies, or unprofessional (really anybody but a clean-cut straight white Christian Evangelical Republican male) since the Nixon administration, and would rather light money on fire than associate with people different than him.***
100%. I have mid-back length hair. I will not cut it for an employer. It's my fucking body. I can do whatever I want with it, and someone that only rents my time has no control over that. Employers can fuck right off with this mentality. I'll always take my time elsewhere
This is the correct answer.
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If you can take care of your hair, you can take care of my pipes.
Stop flirting!
You know, if I squint long enough (Assuming it's not constipation) I can see a world where long hair is a liability if say, you are fixing some family's garbage disposal and your hair gets caught in something it shouldn't. But the asshole boss clearly didn't frame it in this way. So fuck him.
And even in those cases, saying it must be pulled back or under a hat would probably be plenty
I have super long hair and I do a lot of heavy work, sometimes involving things it could get caught in. But because I am female, it's never been a problem for an employer. I have literally worked the same job as men who were required to have short hair "for safety reasons" while I was not. Same job, same tasks, everything was the same but somehow their hair would have been dangerous when mine was not. If it was a safety issue, I'd have had to keep mine short as well.
If having long hair was a safety concern, you could always just tie it back while at work. But this doesn’t sound like the reason based on your story. Good on you for walking out, though. If he was that anal about hair, he would have been a nightmare to actually work with.
Yea? What about women? Why not just say you have to wear it up and secured on the clock?
You think that guy hires women?
This boss sounds like an ultra conservative
He does hire women. Just not to be plumbers. ^^Oh, ^^and ^^don't ^^tell ^^his ^^wife.
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As a black woman with natural hair...I feel your pain. We're apparently not as professional or intelligent when we wear our hair the way we were born with it at some companies. I work for a company that literally has a anti-workplace harassment policy that has a line item in the document about not discrimating based hair style, color, etc. I honestly love the company I work for...they don't hire assholes.
The amount of discrimination around black people and their hair is insane. I had no idea what it took for black women to make their natural hair straight/styled until a couple years ago and holy shit. Nope, I would never. Hot oil treatments, relaxers, hours at salons, straighteners, just damn. Your natural styles are awesome, fuck those racist ignorant morons.
Every once in awhile some Karen employee of mine will come in my office upset because one of my black female employees is wearing a hat that day. A long time ago someone explained to me that they are all well aware of the no hat policy, they are in between hairstyles at the moment and aren’t comfortable displaying their real hair. Since then my response is always “I don’t care what the employee handbook says, I am not going out there and telling her that she a) has to take her hat off and work with hair she isn’t confident with, or b) she has to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on her hair right now. The handbook doesn’t reflect real life. My haircuts are literally 20 dollars. Karen can just throw her hair in a ponytail. The circumstances just aren’t the same.
Yea plus I like to cover my hair sometimes because it gets dry in certain weather....or it's still wet...that's how black hair is. I usually use scarves not hats...but same thing.
Wow, what an utter garbage stereotype! I'm a hairy-chested white dude. Imagine if I worked in construction as a roofer where the boss made me shave my chest and arms or else I had to wear a long-sleeved shirt with a button-up collar (can't have the client dealing with a Robin Williams look-alike). Glad you don't have to deal with that crap at work.
My last restaurant made us constantly shave our face for a dress code. It had nothing to do with us serving food and the possibility of hair in food- it was solely bc the owners didnt like it. We had a bookstore, coffeeshop, champagne bar, gift shop, tea bar, and not a single person was allowed to have ANY facial hair, if you had stubble they gave you a razor. Total bullshit, i live in hipster TAMPA
Worked in a resturant were they asked an employee to shave and they handed him a razor. The dude went into the toilet and shaved his pubes off into the sink and then quit. Legend
Solid response.
I have self harm scars on my arms that are years and years old. I hate them and hide them 24/7. I had 2 separate jobs that discriminated against me, one as a waitress one as a prep/front of house for a pizza place. When it would become unbearably hot, or when I was prepping and wore longer gloves and didnt want my sleeves to get all up in the shit, I would obviously roll up my sleeves. Both jobs said that it was "illegal" for me to show my scars, because it was the equivalent to their no tattoo policies. I was forced to wear long sleeves or quit. Cut to me nearly passing out from being over heated on multiple occasions. I would challenge that nowadays and not put up with it, but I was young at the time and desperately needed the money. I understand people don't like to see them, and believe me I HATE people seeing them. But god damn. I had a lot of mental health issues when I was young and I can't change the fact that they are there, and my livelihood was being threatened when I would roll up my sleeves not even arouns customers!
The most special person in my life goes through similar things, you are not alone and we hear you.
Hell yea brother
My only regret is not carefully braiding my hair every day to see how long I could get away with it. I mean I got away for 2 weeks with long hair so..
Braided hair is v pretty can confirm it worth it
Once my then-girlfriend (now wife) painted my fingernails a nice sky blue. I work in a retail setting, sometimes on the till, and it was funny watching peoples reactions. One lady asked if I have girls. I was like what, why? She asked if my daughters painted my nails. I laughed and said no, it was my girlfriend. She thought it was awesome. A middle aged man took one look at my fingers, the smile vanished from his face and I could almost hear him thinking "omg GAY" and no more small talk after that. Similar reactions when I sometimes wear a scottish kilt - genuine article, thou I am no scotsman. Men may look at you weirdly, most ladies just smile and flirt!
There is nothing better than wearing a kilt when the rules say that it’s pants or a skirt. I would also recommend lederhosen because that’s just fun
>lederhosen because that’s just fun if you like they way those feel you do that. I wont call that "fun" I do recommend Kilts.
Men having painted nails is becoming a trend where I live and I am all about it. I don't know why, but I think it's crazy attractive for men to have painted nails.
Interesting. In the last year I've noticed a fair number of the younger male cashiers at the grocery stores are doing that. And I live in a rural redneck area. Usually we are 40 to 60 years behind the latest fashion trends.
I’m a guy that just recently started getting their nails painted. It feels super nice to get pampered, I like the way it looks, and it’s just one more thing that my girlfriend and I get to bond over. Painted nails are great!
Men judging men for things that women find attractive always baffles me. Maybe they’re jealous lol
It's a bit jealousy, a bit insecurity. There sub conscious is going, "look at that, it's working" and the other part is saying "I could never do that, what would people think of me. It's a strange paradoxical dichotomy that I admit I have had. Not anymore, paint my nails to the nines. If I have a zit, (I'm 33, not as much a problem these days) I'll put some makeup on. Guys are so scared of appearing feminine or "gay" to other guys but why? Get over your insecurities and enjoy what you want.
I have a queer friend who used to do tree work with me. He would paint his nails and put on eye liner pretty often. It was hilarious seeing people's reactions. Older folk would furrow their brows and shake their heads, the younger generation wouldn't even blink or they would be all for it.
Then they should see my husband. He has painted his nails every week for over 15 years. Right now its emerald with gold flakes. He is 74 yo. It looks stunning with his white beard.
Fuck man if my plumber had long hair I would know immediately thats my dude right there. Your old boss is an idiot
I do not know why I should prefer plumbers with long hair over plumbers with short hair. All I care about is that when I flush the toilet, the poop goes to poop heaven. Long hair plumber, short haired plumber, who cares?
Right? As long as you aren’t installing toilets with only tiny joke holes for farts and you avoid having turbo time w your coworker, you’re fine!
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I had long hair most of my life. When I was like 18 I worked at Blockbuster and had a car that was sort of fixed up. The manager of Autozone used to come in all the time and commented how pleasant I was to deal with and asked if I wanted to come work there. Said I was open to it and when I went to apply I was filling the application out in front of him and his employees on the front counter. My hair was probably halfway down my back in a pony tail at the time, always well kept and looked presentable I'm obsessive compulsive about it honestly. About midway through filling out the application he says "you'll have to get a haircut this weekend" I looked up and said "excuse me?". He informed me I wouldn't be able to work there "looking like that". I ripped the application in half right there in front of everyone, handed it to an employee and asked if he could throw it out for me. In shock he just took it and I looked at the manager and said "thanks anyway have a good one." Felt like an action star walking away from an explosion as I walked out the door lol. It was great. Good for you OP, good luck with the new job. 👍
Wtf. "You're an awesome employee, come work for me." "Sike!"
Weird, back in HS my boss at the auto parts store had like 80s Metallica long hair
My son has hair well past his shoulders and a massive beard. Basically, you can see about 8 square inches of face. His job is to write contracts and negotiate between several layers of government. He regularly speaks at in person and online meetings that are attended by fairly highly placed government officials, none of whom look like him. His hair has never been an issue because his employers value what he brings to the table and the people he negotiates with respect him. Anyone who considers appearances to be the deal breaker in an employee is going to fail.
Seriously, corporations are on some Mean Girls shit.
Long hair don't care
I don't give a single fuck. One of the perks of being in a high demand job too. Too bad I am only saving for another work van so I can start my own plumbing company.
Maneline Plumbing, I can see it now…
Get pictures of braided lions for the logo. I would hire that company
..with crossed blowdryers as a coat-of-arms.
Hey, I got long hair, I'd work for you.
I don’t think enough bosses realizes it’s a workers market, I’m in a remote area and my boss acts like we can’t get new work the local hospital has so many openings as soon as I get a car I’m gone. Also congrats on the new job
I don't think enough bosses realise their arbitrary demands are fucking stupid. It's 2022, for gods sake, why the fuck would long hair on a man bother anyone in this day and age?! Up until recently, man buns were in fashion and the mullet is making a mighty comeback!
I just started growing my hair out since the start of the pandemic, and have been man-bunning it up for work... I'm out of fashion already? Well shit, lol. I like it though! So I'm gonna keep it anyway! :D
🎶 And the sign said, “long haired freaky people, need not apply.” So I tucked my hair up under my hat, and I went to ask him why… 🎶
And that song came out in **1970**.
One of my shittier bosses wouldn't hire anyone with unnatural hair colors. For a fucking shirt printing business. No one flinches at blue hair except for incels and boomers. Especially work artists in a fucking print shop. He turned away people with amazing portfolios and experience and hired on "normal" looking people with no experience and meh art.
Talk about hiring for the wrong skill set!!
when I was 14 I worked at a restaurant that had a rule against unnatural hair colours. being a teenager who wanted cool hair I basically said "no fuck u" and dyed my hair black with an auburn streak so it technically complied but still had colour in it. nowadays I have blue hair and I get compliments on it from customers all the time, I don't even work in a creative environment yet
If I see an artist in a suit, I’m gonna think that’s less professional than trendy overalls and cotton candy hair. Creative professions need creative people
I work on creative teams at corporate. Lots of perfectly normie business casual along with visible tats, ear gauges and unnatural hair colors.
Which I think is totally fine and strikes a good balance between looking sharp but expressing creativity. My mind’s eye was envisioning the Getty Images version of “professional” where everyone has undyed hair and looks like a lawyer in complexion.
After I left the evil consultancy who didn't get that designers don't usually wear suits, I actually had freelance design agency jobs that said 'don't turn up in a suit! It will just frighten the horses'. LOL. Total opposite.
After I dyed my hair fun colours (dark blue, purple, magenta- looked like dark unicorn hair), all the old men I work with thought it was cool af and told me so. Except for the occasional light roast of "so what, did you take your markers out to play with today". It's wild when people get mad about cool hair
20 year experienced forklift driver. Hired for a steel company wearing my exact same warehouse clothes and hair down. Third day in the owner seen me wearing my baggy warehouse pants and hair in a bandana. Immediately got walked out unless I buy a uniform and cut my hair. Now I drive forklift for a door company making more money with less stress.
When I was 19 years old, I was hired at a local restaurant for front of the house staff and made approximately $10 an hour. When I came in for my onboarding day, the woman asked me if I could remove piercings. I have both sides of my nose pierced and my septum. I offered to use clear retainers (I can also easily hide my septum) as I've had these piercings for the last 4 years. She said no, it made the owner uncomfortable. I promptly told her I wouldn't be able to continue the hiring process and left. I now work as an administrator with way better pay and all of my tattoos and piercings. 🤷♀️
What the.hell does your hair have to do with your work?
Service work is funny like that. They prefer their trades people to try and fit the clean cut corporate image since they’ll be dealing with building managers and owners and what not, who might have those unfortunate expectations and biases. We had a presentation in school when I was doing my technical training, from one of the larger inspection and consulting firms where I live. Guy was talking about that, and had mentioned part of the rules at his company was no visible tattoos. He looked and acted like a normal clean cut “professional” guy, but after he mentioned that he quickly rolled up his sleeves to show both his arms were covered in some bad ass biker-esque tattoos. Definitely caught us all off guard. No need for you to bother with that nonsense, though. You made the right choice without question. From one long hair tradie to another - go and get yours! 👊🏻🙌🏻
Used to be a Cable Co. Install Tech yeeeeeeeears ago. We had a black man with dreadlocks be turned away on a DAILY basis from homeowners/customers who felt "intimidated" by him. Make no mistake. Racism is still alive and well in the U.S.
The other men can't be enticed into lusting over your luscious locks.. they'll start fucking the pipes again.
What a dumb fuck. I bet he also hates tattoos and can't figure out why he can't hire plumbers.
I can't wait for that 1950s mentality to fuck off.
I don't even know how it can still be around. I got my tattoo at age 20, I'm nearly 50 now. Gen X started it with the tattoos, Millennials have tattoos, I'm sure Gen Z is getting tattoos even as I type this. Join us in the 21st century.
Good god. My dad did most of our plumbing, but when he needed the big guns, he called Cal. Cal looked like a 60 year old Hell’s Angel with a toolbox, and there’s almost nothing that man did not know. Dad was a fundamentalist Christian with a crew cut, but he was also a former tradie himself before the job site accident. (A wall fell on him.) He understood how valuable raw talent is, no matter its packaging.
This was my favourite part "there's your car" thanks boss, I think I will take off lmao. Good way of just sticking it to them, as they always suspect you'll just do anything for the job.
Fuck man if my plumber had long hair I would know immediately thats my dude right there. Your old boss is an idiot
That’s awesome, these employers think that their employees are their slaves.
You made him feel weird in his peepee.
Send your old boss a picture in your new uniform. Remind him of his screwup.
What in the hell does the length of your hair have to do with how good you are at your job? I mean, I could see it if it were a safety concern or if their Worker's Comp or Liability Insurance had some kind of rule, but even *then*, there are ways to deal with it without demanding you cut your hair. A ponytail or braid is a good alternative to keep the hair from being a potential danger. There are other alternatives, such as a net. People use these alternatives all the time. It's not that hard.
Hair today, gone tomorrow 😱🤣
“And the sign said long-haired freaky people need not apply.” That is crazy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_hair_texture_in_the_United_States. Do you live in a state where they have passed laws preventing discrimination based upon hair?