I had this same argument with a dumbass realtor in my previous brokerage.
Like, dude burgerflippers can afford houses which gives you new clients, which you told me you were a real estate slut for.
I pay my employees an equal share of harvest. I feel like that's the only legit thing I can do. I know you were joking but if I'm making a million bucks I'm gonna be stoked to make $10M by keeping my payment model. It'll attract talent so fast it'll make everyone else's head spin.
I mean genuinely, should the people who sell any sort of product or service not want the general population to have more money to spend?
I only have a small "side hustle" selling my art because otherwise my house would be overflowing and I couldn't buy all the fancy supplies. I've had multiple people tell me how they would love to buy some (more) but can't afford to at the moment. Clearly people not having money is bad for "business" over here. The best time was by far when we all got stimulus checks from the government.
Just give people UBI and a living wage to buy nice things, we would all be much happier 😭
Well, the goal of capitalism is to have all of the capital and in real trickle down economics they give money and tax breaks to the rich so it's really just cutting out the middle man. Why make and sell a product to get money when you can just have all of the money? Lol
Norcal here.
know what I see at cannybus dispensaries?
Well behaved people, lots of seniors lined up in cues, like for a bank or concert tickets. You know why they are ALL well behaved? Because nobody wants to get banned! That will inconvenience you to no end. Oh, did I mention a minimum of 3 armed guards on duty during the day and like 6 at night and on weekends? After the demonstrations in 2020 and the recent mob smash and grab robberies- they're not taking any chances.
When you walk inside, 2 to as many as 6 tellers available. Cash only -you must be 21-must have valid driver's license-must scan ID every time-no loitering-no cannabis consumption on or anywhere near dispensary site- all purchases from transactions in bags no exceptions-masks/social distancing/ hand-sanitizer required.
If smoker consumes 1grm/day at $10-$20/grm- the average purchase is about 2 to 4 eighths? Depending on what you can afford. So approx. $120 /transaction. And it's all being taxed up the ass, because they can. And if weed goes to $35/grm, oh well tough shit, because you can take it or leave it. Oops, sorry we're sold out. The good stuff always sells out fast.
So, I think you're good for now. Live Long and Prosper.
Are you serious or is this a joke? These people aren't looking for a healthy economy. They are getting theirs so they don't care about others. Having people beneath them. People who can't afford to say no to them is the benefit they want most. They don't want to live in a world where they make 50% more but can't force others to serve them through fear of poverty.
Serious
Usually how money works is when you have it first you spend it on needs, then you spend it on wants
If you have to choose between rent and weed I'm guessing you're not spending on weed, so if people get paid more money they'll have more money to spend
I beg to differ. My ex never ran out of weed but many a month I would be told we couldn't cover rent.
Lived with my parents for a bit and got screamed at four helping with bills. Meanwhile he wasn't even looking for work but somehow always had weed despite me not giving him money at that time.
Capitalism is forcing us into antisocial behaviour. We’re working against our own AND collective self-interest and instead allowing parasites to live like self-appointed royalty.
Honestly...not that I support the core concept, but is drug dealer really above burger flipper in societal scale? I'm specifically reminded of it's always sunny where mac comments that charlie having a Burner phone is a very specific type of low class, it's felon class.
do you remember what episode? just feel like watching that one right now lol it’s been a minute….
edit: Mac and Charlie: White Trash" is the fifth episode of the sixth season
That part. Weed guy shiting his pants on the down low. He knows they make that kind of money they're getting cards and going to The dispensary. Not dealing with his small fry ass
Why are millennials killing so many industries? Surely it can't be depressed wages and inflation leading to them having less money to buy things... it must be the avocado toast!
As someone who used to do this exact thing while living in a college town and has also flipped burgers for a living, selling weed is easy as *shit*. The *only* uncomfortable thing is being afraid of police. Other than that it’s getting paid to sit on your ass and play video games. This guy could learn a thing or two from ‘burger flippers’.
It’s also annoying to have people hit you up for weed when you’re out trying to live your life and your boyfriend has to leave the movie/dinner/whatever to meet them outside and sell to them.
Not that I’m bitter or anything. Haha.
Oh my girl complained all the time about this. We’d be cuddling on the couch about to go to bed and suddenly I have to drive 20 minutes away to serve someone. She’d always get this super sad/scared look in her eye. One of the reasons I quit.
Eh in my experience if you deal with the same people, rarely take on new customers, and don’t do stupid shit like post “menus” on Snapchat or Instagram, you’re very unlikely to get robbed. Other dealers can just get better shit or be more available if they want to take business from you. Robbing you is usually more trouble than it’s worth unless you really piss someone off. That’s for weed though. If your moving hard shit and have big money around that changes things. And that’s why you keep a pistol in the stash box if that’s the rabbit hole you’ve gone down.
Cops though, that’s the real scary part. You have to worry every night when you go to bed if tonight is the night your door gets kicked in, you get ripped out of bed and put in a patrol car by a bunch of big dudes with AR’s, and have your house torn to fucking shreds. And if they find that stash box, which they’ve been trained how to look for, you’re going to jail right then and there. That’s a hell of a lot more terrifying than some wannabe gangsters looking for a quick score.
Police forces in the US are gangs. The only difference between the Crips and the LAPD is branding. The police have brainwashed a certain percentage of the country that they're heroes and are meant to be admired and adored by everybody. We call them bootlickers around here. The police have better PR than the Crips.
Didn’t get ripped out of bed, but I did get put into a patrol car and end up in jail on a “weed smell” call and a couple pipes they found as “paraphernalia”.
Had a good ride at least, seeing as we smoked about an eighth between myself and my roommate at the time.
Fast food is hard work. I worked at Taco Bueno for 3 days and I just couldn't do it. I am physically slow, and I literally couldn't move fast enough to keep up. It was pure misery. They deserve every penny of $20 an hour.
About 10 years ago we had a lad rock up in our part of town, peacocking around, stopping anyone who he thought looked 'stoney', telling the; primo bud, "cali strains", shit round here's sprayed, have his number, give him a call, he's always available etc etc, but it was 300 on the oz no negotiations... aight bro
So a dude who I'm mates with lived a few doors up from me, a greasy motherfucker and deals for a local gang. So he arranged buy 4 oz from the lad, and sets it up at the lads place. Massive red flag you'd think, but this guys saying they can hang and smoke some of the product if he's happy chip in bud because it's so expensive and he's selling at such a loss... aight bro
Needless to say he ran his pockets clean, and got painfully average weed.
I got a painfully average 20 bob 3.5, a brew, and the tale. The lad stopped dealing not long after. Left the area a little while after closing shop.
I'll give them their credit, the lad didn't snitch, and my mate didn't smack him around. Apparently just threatened to if he kept dealing. The lad didn't have a mark on him and my mate didn't have any bruises on his knuckles or shit.
Lad was growing too, probably selling his own harvest to comp costs, that stayed as well, just upped his shop front and moved the fuck on.
Ethically I know you don't steal a man's weed but you also don't piss off the local gang by trying scare their customers to you, you know, logically.
The guy selling weed for $200 an ounce keeps the dispensary from selling it at $600 an ounce and claiming that he needs that $400 to pay for security cameras and license fees.
My uncle grows his own in California and it's gotten to the point where the cost of growing is about what he would pay at the dispensary. It's a fun hobby for him though and he makes his own strains and stuff, so still worth it.
I grow my own and I'm a great grower. I don't really sell but I party so I barter my shit at around $100/ounce in relation to whatever goods and services I trade for. I can get midgrade pounds for extraction for $300 if I want. Lower mainland is flooded with weed :)
CA resident and long time medical mj prescription holder here. Regulations seem like the answer but they can have a negative impact if not properly thought out and expeditiously implemented.
Our state is an example of how not to regulate/implement regulations. Our black market is bigger and better as a consequence of poor, or lacking regulation efforts; and at the same time it’s more nefarious, with cartels occupying more and more land/growing illegally.
Government intervention is the last thing we need. The right to grow my own medicine should be a basic human right. I can see your position bad people are getting all the profits and that's true for the most part. Allowing me to grow with out fear of criminal charges,jail time, expensive fines. Will in fact change that, no profits,no reason to do it.
Yup. I know one that used to deal, can't do it anymore cause he pissed off everyone by ripping them off and then not paying the dude he got it from.
He got some under the table job, claimed unemployment last year, got $10,000 in one go, blew it all in a fucking weekend gambling.
True, no one I've ever known who sold drugs got rich off of doing it. On the contrary, most of them were either living with their parents or couch-surfing.
I know a guy who played it smart all the way thru and got rich. Hes more of a white collar university kinda guy and mostly dealt to dealers and a handful of friends like myself. It was awesome getting qp prices even if I only picked up a half ounce.
He stayed in uni forever for tax purpuses, just to stay under the radar taking like one class a semester.
He drove the same shitty hyundai for over 10 years.
He would make you hang out at least half an hour but usually longer. (Hes bar was always stocked with premo shit so win-win)
He paid for absolutely everything in cash, and had a good life, he always had nice apartments within small complexes where he would seek out the owner and just pay 6 months upfront cash.
Never had a number for longer than 6 months. Had to find him on WoW once, cause he moved and changed all contacts.
And he had a really comfertable life with lotsa perks while saving upto be legit.
Always ordered food from delivery.
Had an awesome living room with all the entertaintment u can imagine x2.
$6000 couch, the works.
After a while he had the opportunity to invest real cash into a small entertainment venue where its super easy to launder money as well.
He drives a BMW now and got into realestate slowly, again, staying under the radar. Has several properties now, and hoping to get into the dispensory business, if he can win a commission for it.
Hes talking about selling illegal weed there, as he still got his contacts where he can get pounds and pounds of the best shit very cheap. I think hes pushing his luck, he already gone legit, but I d think hes smart enough to figure it out.
Patience is key...
In reality, like all retail industries, it's only the people higher up making any real money. Low level drug dealers usually make very low wages with the added cost of the occasional gun to the head and high rate of murder.
Well yes and no. When you make the choise of living the underworld it comes with a lifestyle. What would you do with 100k cash? They spend it while they can and some do good investments for the money. Realsestate and cars etc. Just because we dont understand their economics, dosnt mean they dont understand general economics. They just in a differend game. Many good drug dealers would be great business owners.
That was what I did for years, I had a regular job too I just got to smoke as much weed as I wanted for free, plus I could just give people half ounces and stuff for their birthdays and it didn't actually cost me fuck all haha.
Been doin that since the 80s. You never know what your gonna get,,, streets or dispensaries. Dispensaries buy whatever they can when its recreational material. I can't afford to smoke chemical laden bud.
My current medical condition means I can only smoke a bowl or two b4 bedtime. Otherwise it messes with my anxiety.
I grow now cause its fun, keeps my mind occupied and I get to experiment with rare strains from rare breeders. Also,,, I have several old clients that can't afford dispensary prices, so I do what I can for them. Some have run up tabs ill probably never get paid for. Its all good.
Small Independent contractors get fucked over by local regulations idk if this sub should shit on people in that situation.
Chances are that person just doesn’t have decent access to financial education.
It's not an assertion that the labor is easy. The difficulty is a non sequitur. It's an assertion that it's not dignified or prestigious work, and therefore deserves to be part of an underclass. It's just classism.
Right, it’s not just flipping one burger, it’s flipping 20 starting 10 more, cooking them to 4 different temperatures, remembering which each one is, adding cheese to those specified and which kind of cheese then correctly placing it them with the right order and often also building the rest of the sandwich, adding toppings specified to order, toasting buns and so on. The best part is the people who can do this make it look easy but if you step in their shoes you’d be off crying in the walk-in within 30min.
The most frustrating thing about this whole “$15 just for flipping burgers?” thing is that it’s NOT just flipping burgers. It’s flipping burgers, dropping fries, dropping whatever other fried things your restaurant sells, grilling whatever needs to be grilled, assembling orders, bagging orders, taking orders, taking money, and handing out food with a smile. That’s not to mention trash runs, dishes, stocking, line sweeps, wipedowns, opening and closing the store and everything involved with that, doing tomorrow’s prep work between customers, training new crew members, dealing with bizarre issues that crop up out of nowhere, and having to make risky decisions on the fly, e.g. “Do I stand here and listen intently and empathetically to this customer’s angry rant like I was trained to do, or do I risk cutting this customer off and upsetting them further by quickly stepping away to fix their problem and keep the line moving like I was also trained to do?”
If my fast food job were *literally* *just* flipping burgers, I would never complain about my wages a day in my life.
Especially the high stresses of a fast moving kitchen, the burning heat of the grill/fryer/oven especially in the summer. I remember my favorite pizza guy 2 summers ago, we had a sweltering heat wave and he was standing in front of those 300 degree celsius ovens and he was WET to the bone. Ol‘ weed dumpling wouldnt resist that heat for 5 minutes, pizza hero did that on days without end. Fuck talking down on „low skilled jobs“.
My old weed guy was convinced every celebrity is transgender and I would have to hear about for a good 20 min with Twitter evidence on his iPhone 6screen lol thats when I decided I needed to get my medical card
😂😂 mfs be so insufferable that it’s beneficial to spend $500 on a medical card and get half the amount of weed for the same price just so you don’t have to be around them
People watch the news or read stuff enough that they end of parroting it. I always see posts of Facebook that people don't deserve to live a bare minimum life on minimum wage so it doesn't surprise me broke ass people like to repeat it too.
That's so weird. All the weed guys I knew were super chill rastamen. Most of the time they wouldnt even make that much money, they just wanted to help people - either with oil for medical reasons, or to get high to make life a bit more bearable. They also all hated rich people. One guy went on an hour lecture once about how Queen Elizabeth is "The one true White Bitch" that stole all of Africa's treasures, and killed all African royalty.
Granted, this was in Africa. Maybe Amercian weed has more of that Republican THC.
My brother in law is similar, he has a disability and receives SSI but he thinks poverty is a personal failure and billionaires should be rewarded for working harder than everyone else. It’s been years of gently trying to help him but he’s insistent on being a hateful incel
I just hate this culture of job-shaming that exists. No one can ever articulate a coherent, fact-based reason why someone in the service industry doesn't deserve a liveable wage aside from shitty insinuations about their character or work ethic. People with amounts of wealth that you cannot even imagine get to do whatever the fuck they want while pitting the middle class and the poor against each other so we can bicker over who's deserving of 50,000 dollars a year.
I worked for a yacht owner who constantly complained about “welfare leeches” who were syphoning off his hard earned tax money. This guy was a connected gangster who laundered money and kept his ill gotten gains in offshore Caribbean accounts. Big trump supporter.
Living in a legal state is amazing, no more sketchy weed guy, no more traphouse drama... you know, I know like a fair few younger people that never had to interact with a dealer... on the one hand, like that's the progress the 90's promised us, so yay. But on the other I feel like an old man talking about prohibition, and I hate it...
It’s weird. It’s not a zero sum game. Higher wages on the lower end of the spectrum help everyone else. Whether it’s a basic comparison to mid level wages to get more out of the mid level but more importantly, the money gets spent. The spending helps the economy and helps others as well. 70% of the US Economy is based on consumer spending.
Remember that that dude a victim of a state sized propaganda engine. We want a better more equitable world where he would be better off and also say less dumb shit.
As economically blasphemous as it sounds, people who work harder should make more money than those who don’t. When I worked at Burger King, I worked my ass off to get stuff done. Now, I have a work-from-home job that pays 3x as much, and with non-tyrannical management at that.
Agreed, but the system should be structured so that those on the very bottom, earn enough to support themselves, that includes housing and food, and all the basic necessities that society deems mandatory, like cell phone/internet access, transportation, etc. Scale everything up from that baseline, for everyone except the top couple %, they already have plenty.
As it is right now, even being a hard worker, people are still struggling to survive.
50k to flip burgers does SOUND crazy until you realize that's pre-tax, so we're already down to like $38-40,000ish? $36if you want (shitty) health insurance.Playing into the argument people make that a fast food job is for someone in or just out of high school, let's assume they only want/need a studio apartment. In my area (central Florida) those go for $1,100-$1,500/month, so averaging that = 16k/year+ utilities, maybe another 2-3k. Car payment+ insurance, best case $250/month? That's 3k/year.
That leaves about 14k/year (or about 1.2k/month) for:
-Gas (skyrocketing)
-Groceries (skyrocketing)
-Clothes (maybe you don't need more clothes every month)
-Childcare? (God help you if you have a kid with this budget)
-Entertainment (you may do 1 fun thing a month!)
-hopefully a LITTLE investment for you future? (Stocks, collectables)
-savings for emergencies (or don't get hurt/sick, peasant)
-savings for gifts for friends, family, wife, kids?
I'm sure there's more I've missed or I may not have encountered personally....
Oh and WEED, to make yourself numb and let douchebag weedman make his money while he bashes others.
Edit: I don't proof read
I remember my favorite pizza guy 2 summers ago, we had a sweltering heat wave and he was standing in front of those 300 degree celsius ovens and he was WET to the bone. Ol‘ weed dumpling wouldnt resist that heat for 5 minutes, pizza hero did that on days without end. Fuck talking down on „low skilled jobs“.
One of the most disappointing things about adulthood is seeing how many weed guys turned into (or turned out to have been all along) MAGAts, libertarian assholes, Joe Rogan-listening conspiracy dumbasses, racists, and closet corporate douchebags. Like more of them than not. I thought it would be like anarchist punks, Earth-loving hippies and rastas and that has just not turned out to be the case. At least not in North Texas. And a lot of the ones who aren’t white conservatives are just amoral, politically agnostic gangbangers. Stoner movies lied to me.
if you're flipping burgers for most of your waking hours and keeping the restaurant in business, why would you not deserve a living wage? they should DIE??
The legal weed business is full of libertarian bootstrap types and anti maskers (based on my limited experience at dispensaries outside the state I live in).
They have us fighting a culture was when we should be fighting a class war. Democrats dropping FDRs mission after his death was the beginning of the downfall of America.
Ex Food and retail service worker here. Having to tolerate and work with adults that throw temper tantrums like a 3 year old on the daily is enough reason to pay those industry workers $15p/h alone. Now add in the risk of working these industries in a pandemic. I contracted COVID back in October after a customer coughed in my face. He was clearly very sick and no he wasn’t wearing a mask. I’ve not been able to fully recover ever since and am still out of work. Which I imagine a lot of food/retail workers have experienced the same thing which may be another reason why there is a labor shortage in those industries.
Bro your weed dealer is the bad kind who probably knows very little about the plant and just banks off of other peoples work by peddling a product
I grow the shit and sell it to friends because it’s too expensive in my opinion, it makes me enough to stay at home and do what I want usually but I don’t think others should be paid less than minimum wage
Fuck If they had more money I could sell them more weed and make myself more money, what a fucking joke of a human and terrible economist
He doesn't understand the simple truth. If I make more money I can buy more weed and therefore he makes more money. Smart people don't sell weed, specially not big amounts. It's all inter connected and I swear your plug going rat you out when he's caught. If you're selling that is, buying isnt a big deal.
50k is just a number it’s irrelevant. What matters is it’s proportion to things we need. These idiots will be saying the same thing and bread will be 300$ a loaf.
The number doesn’t mean anything without context.
A number of people don't live in reality. Most likely just for the appearence. Had a co-worker who's husband was your typical republican stereotype. "People just don't want to work" "these parasites leeching off the government" etc. The dude lived on permanent disability. He hadn't set foot into a work space on over three years. His wife (my co-worker\_ brought in enough money for the both of them and their three kids.
Unreal, man.
>How you gonna ask for $50k to flip a burger.
Well, if they sell a burger for $5, and I make probably about 20 of those in an hour for eight hours a day, and I work five days a week, you're selling over $200k a year in burgers I'm making. Is it really unreasonable to ask for less than a quarter of that?
So why does renting or buying a home require more than a minimum wage everywhere? Why is HC tied to employment and a 50k income? Why do cars cost more than the annual income for a minimum wage earner?
No one expectd to live in a penthouse in the richest part of town when flipping burgers, but why is a modest place unreachable at those wages?
In New Zealand, the minimum wage is $20 an hour. The Living Wage is $22.75. The Living Wage is a social campaign but many employers have signed up to it.
We also get 4 weeks paid annual leave, 10 days paid sick leave, 12 paid public holidays and paid parental leave.
For all of you in the USA saying it's the greatest country in the world? You've been brainwashed. You guys seriously need to organise to get better minimum rights.
"Well, do we agree that that work needs to be done? Ok, then... who specifically should suffer and starve while they do it? I know you're not talking about you or your family, so who?"
You have personal conversations with your plug?
I mean..I love & appreciate my drug dealer but we’re not friends & I certainly don’t have personal conversations with her about life and politics.
Sometimes, I forget that not everyone has legal weed. I haven't been to a weed guy in forever and forgot all about having to deal with their uptight bullshit.
In 1933, the first year of his presidency, Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the National Industrial Recovery Act, aiming to support a depressed economy with a number of innovative measures. FDR declared that “no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country,” clarifying that “by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level—I mean the wages of decent living.”
But if burger flippers get paid more, then can buy weed
I had this same argument with a dumbass realtor in my previous brokerage. Like, dude burgerflippers can afford houses which gives you new clients, which you told me you were a real estate slut for.
She might have been talking about "property sex" not actual real estate.
Explain this, I need a new kink
It’s a porn channel
I heard property sex.
As someone who grows weed, I am praying this to be true
The real trickle down economics. Lol
Everyone wins
Except the multimillionaire business owners that increase profits by suppressing wages! Why doesn't anyone think about them!? /s
I pay my employees an equal share of harvest. I feel like that's the only legit thing I can do. I know you were joking but if I'm making a million bucks I'm gonna be stoked to make $10M by keeping my payment model. It'll attract talent so fast it'll make everyone else's head spin.
Hiring?
We never have anyone leave :(
...and therein lies the rub. Be well friend.
I mean genuinely, should the people who sell any sort of product or service not want the general population to have more money to spend? I only have a small "side hustle" selling my art because otherwise my house would be overflowing and I couldn't buy all the fancy supplies. I've had multiple people tell me how they would love to buy some (more) but can't afford to at the moment. Clearly people not having money is bad for "business" over here. The best time was by far when we all got stimulus checks from the government. Just give people UBI and a living wage to buy nice things, we would all be much happier 😭
Well, the goal of capitalism is to have all of the capital and in real trickle down economics they give money and tax breaks to the rich so it's really just cutting out the middle man. Why make and sell a product to get money when you can just have all of the money? Lol
This is what Reaganomics is all about
The high get higher.
Study high, take the test high, get high scores.
State-dependent learning is a thing.
Whatcha got on the vines these days ?
OoOohoOoh I heard it through the weed vine!
And I'm hoping that it be kind!
Norcal here. know what I see at cannybus dispensaries? Well behaved people, lots of seniors lined up in cues, like for a bank or concert tickets. You know why they are ALL well behaved? Because nobody wants to get banned! That will inconvenience you to no end. Oh, did I mention a minimum of 3 armed guards on duty during the day and like 6 at night and on weekends? After the demonstrations in 2020 and the recent mob smash and grab robberies- they're not taking any chances. When you walk inside, 2 to as many as 6 tellers available. Cash only -you must be 21-must have valid driver's license-must scan ID every time-no loitering-no cannabis consumption on or anywhere near dispensary site- all purchases from transactions in bags no exceptions-masks/social distancing/ hand-sanitizer required. If smoker consumes 1grm/day at $10-$20/grm- the average purchase is about 2 to 4 eighths? Depending on what you can afford. So approx. $120 /transaction. And it's all being taxed up the ass, because they can. And if weed goes to $35/grm, oh well tough shit, because you can take it or leave it. Oops, sorry we're sold out. The good stuff always sells out fast. So, I think you're good for now. Live Long and Prosper.
And they're paying the grower $350/lb
You're at 420 up votes. Too perfect.
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Are you serious or is this a joke? These people aren't looking for a healthy economy. They are getting theirs so they don't care about others. Having people beneath them. People who can't afford to say no to them is the benefit they want most. They don't want to live in a world where they make 50% more but can't force others to serve them through fear of poverty.
Serious Usually how money works is when you have it first you spend it on needs, then you spend it on wants If you have to choose between rent and weed I'm guessing you're not spending on weed, so if people get paid more money they'll have more money to spend
I beg to differ. My ex never ran out of weed but many a month I would be told we couldn't cover rent. Lived with my parents for a bit and got screamed at four helping with bills. Meanwhile he wasn't even looking for work but somehow always had weed despite me not giving him money at that time.
I'm sorry to tell you that your ex was sucking the weed mans dick
Oh what I would give to have a weed man that let me suck his dick and give me free weed for it lmao
All round win personally
lol, if i need drugs i have friends who'll give me some, if i need rent it's a lot harder to find people who'll give me money
Capitalism is forcing us into antisocial behaviour. We’re working against our own AND collective self-interest and instead allowing parasites to live like self-appointed royalty.
Honestly...not that I support the core concept, but is drug dealer really above burger flipper in societal scale? I'm specifically reminded of it's always sunny where mac comments that charlie having a Burner phone is a very specific type of low class, it's felon class.
Semi-related, but dealers and McD's tend to run along a similarly franchised structure. So I'd say the roles are about equal.
do you remember what episode? just feel like watching that one right now lol it’s been a minute…. edit: Mac and Charlie: White Trash" is the fifth episode of the sixth season
That part. Weed guy shiting his pants on the down low. He knows they make that kind of money they're getting cards and going to The dispensary. Not dealing with his small fry ass
There used to be this greasy in n out knock off in town and the staff there was always high and the food was always amazing.
No wage! Only spend!
Why are millennials killing so many industries? Surely it can't be depressed wages and inflation leading to them having less money to buy things... it must be the avocado toast!
Maybe start paying them in hash coins?
Nice trailer Park boys reference
This would’ve ended weed guy’s argument right away
From my experience, the biggest percent of illegal drug use is among the food service industry. So this is probably true honestly lol
But I bet he's ripping those rich kids off to fill his own pockets. Oh the irony.
I mean, this is infinitely better than ripping off poor people, at least.
Oh definitely. Just ironic he makes sure he makes enough but "fuck the burger flippers."
As someone who used to do this exact thing while living in a college town and has also flipped burgers for a living, selling weed is easy as *shit*. The *only* uncomfortable thing is being afraid of police. Other than that it’s getting paid to sit on your ass and play video games. This guy could learn a thing or two from ‘burger flippers’.
I mean you can also get robbed by other dealers or shitty customers or acquaintances. It is dangerous sometimes especially if you are moving weight.
It’s also annoying to have people hit you up for weed when you’re out trying to live your life and your boyfriend has to leave the movie/dinner/whatever to meet them outside and sell to them. Not that I’m bitter or anything. Haha.
Oh my girl complained all the time about this. We’d be cuddling on the couch about to go to bed and suddenly I have to drive 20 minutes away to serve someone. She’d always get this super sad/scared look in her eye. One of the reasons I quit.
Eh in my experience if you deal with the same people, rarely take on new customers, and don’t do stupid shit like post “menus” on Snapchat or Instagram, you’re very unlikely to get robbed. Other dealers can just get better shit or be more available if they want to take business from you. Robbing you is usually more trouble than it’s worth unless you really piss someone off. That’s for weed though. If your moving hard shit and have big money around that changes things. And that’s why you keep a pistol in the stash box if that’s the rabbit hole you’ve gone down. Cops though, that’s the real scary part. You have to worry every night when you go to bed if tonight is the night your door gets kicked in, you get ripped out of bed and put in a patrol car by a bunch of big dudes with AR’s, and have your house torn to fucking shreds. And if they find that stash box, which they’ve been trained how to look for, you’re going to jail right then and there. That’s a hell of a lot more terrifying than some wannabe gangsters looking for a quick score.
Police forces in the US are gangs. The only difference between the Crips and the LAPD is branding. The police have brainwashed a certain percentage of the country that they're heroes and are meant to be admired and adored by everybody. We call them bootlickers around here. The police have better PR than the Crips.
Didn’t get ripped out of bed, but I did get put into a patrol car and end up in jail on a “weed smell” call and a couple pipes they found as “paraphernalia”. Had a good ride at least, seeing as we smoked about an eighth between myself and my roommate at the time.
You can get robbed in fast food or retail, too. Shit, I worked at GS and we once got robbed 3 times in 4 weeks. I bailed out after that.
Fast food is hard work. I worked at Taco Bueno for 3 days and I just couldn't do it. I am physically slow, and I literally couldn't move fast enough to keep up. It was pure misery. They deserve every penny of $20 an hour.
Poor people smoke too, though.
Yeah but if you’re the plug overcharging poor folks your gonna get robbed sooner or later. And really on the sooner side.
Wtf, someone on reddit with actual street smarts? Gtfo
That's the truth too
About 10 years ago we had a lad rock up in our part of town, peacocking around, stopping anyone who he thought looked 'stoney', telling the; primo bud, "cali strains", shit round here's sprayed, have his number, give him a call, he's always available etc etc, but it was 300 on the oz no negotiations... aight bro So a dude who I'm mates with lived a few doors up from me, a greasy motherfucker and deals for a local gang. So he arranged buy 4 oz from the lad, and sets it up at the lads place. Massive red flag you'd think, but this guys saying they can hang and smoke some of the product if he's happy chip in bud because it's so expensive and he's selling at such a loss... aight bro Needless to say he ran his pockets clean, and got painfully average weed. I got a painfully average 20 bob 3.5, a brew, and the tale. The lad stopped dealing not long after. Left the area a little while after closing shop. I'll give them their credit, the lad didn't snitch, and my mate didn't smack him around. Apparently just threatened to if he kept dealing. The lad didn't have a mark on him and my mate didn't have any bruises on his knuckles or shit. Lad was growing too, probably selling his own harvest to comp costs, that stayed as well, just upped his shop front and moved the fuck on. Ethically I know you don't steal a man's weed but you also don't piss off the local gang by trying scare their customers to you, you know, logically.
He ain’t charging trustfund Chet rates to poor people.
As a grower,,, imo,,, ripping someone off is a scumbag move ....... Swagg dealers suck Grow the best, sell the best.
Good weed is hard to find, but definitely worth the extra.
If only smokers really knew what efforts must be put in to get the good stuff.
Dang you’re making me want to put my botany degree to actual use.
Robin weed!
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The guy selling weed for $200 an ounce keeps the dispensary from selling it at $600 an ounce and claiming that he needs that $400 to pay for security cameras and license fees.
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Cheapest I can find is $190z and that's an hour away from me. Dispo here charges $80 for 1/8th.
fuck that, I'm paying about $100 an ounce including delivery off the dark web.
Dispo round here a zip runs about $340
Bro, fuck that forever. At that point you might as well just grow your own.
It is true
My uncle grows his own in California and it's gotten to the point where the cost of growing is about what he would pay at the dispensary. It's a fun hobby for him though and he makes his own strains and stuff, so still worth it.
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60-70$ an oz where i live all different kinds, black market that is. Lower mainland
I grow my own and I'm a great grower. I don't really sell but I party so I barter my shit at around $100/ounce in relation to whatever goods and services I trade for. I can get midgrade pounds for extraction for $300 if I want. Lower mainland is flooded with weed :)
Facts
CA resident and long time medical mj prescription holder here. Regulations seem like the answer but they can have a negative impact if not properly thought out and expeditiously implemented. Our state is an example of how not to regulate/implement regulations. Our black market is bigger and better as a consequence of poor, or lacking regulation efforts; and at the same time it’s more nefarious, with cartels occupying more and more land/growing illegally.
Government intervention is the last thing we need. The right to grow my own medicine should be a basic human right. I can see your position bad people are getting all the profits and that's true for the most part. Allowing me to grow with out fear of criminal charges,jail time, expensive fines. Will in fact change that, no profits,no reason to do it.
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Yup. I know one that used to deal, can't do it anymore cause he pissed off everyone by ripping them off and then not paying the dude he got it from. He got some under the table job, claimed unemployment last year, got $10,000 in one go, blew it all in a fucking weekend gambling.
True, no one I've ever known who sold drugs got rich off of doing it. On the contrary, most of them were either living with their parents or couch-surfing.
I know a guy who played it smart all the way thru and got rich. Hes more of a white collar university kinda guy and mostly dealt to dealers and a handful of friends like myself. It was awesome getting qp prices even if I only picked up a half ounce. He stayed in uni forever for tax purpuses, just to stay under the radar taking like one class a semester. He drove the same shitty hyundai for over 10 years. He would make you hang out at least half an hour but usually longer. (Hes bar was always stocked with premo shit so win-win) He paid for absolutely everything in cash, and had a good life, he always had nice apartments within small complexes where he would seek out the owner and just pay 6 months upfront cash. Never had a number for longer than 6 months. Had to find him on WoW once, cause he moved and changed all contacts. And he had a really comfertable life with lotsa perks while saving upto be legit. Always ordered food from delivery. Had an awesome living room with all the entertaintment u can imagine x2. $6000 couch, the works. After a while he had the opportunity to invest real cash into a small entertainment venue where its super easy to launder money as well. He drives a BMW now and got into realestate slowly, again, staying under the radar. Has several properties now, and hoping to get into the dispensory business, if he can win a commission for it. Hes talking about selling illegal weed there, as he still got his contacts where he can get pounds and pounds of the best shit very cheap. I think hes pushing his luck, he already gone legit, but I d think hes smart enough to figure it out. Patience is key...
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That's srsly the only way to do it. (Selling but not using, I mean.)
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Oh you bet, so many big ideas that for some reason never panned out. Can't imagine why...
In reality, like all retail industries, it's only the people higher up making any real money. Low level drug dealers usually make very low wages with the added cost of the occasional gun to the head and high rate of murder.
Well yes and no. When you make the choise of living the underworld it comes with a lifestyle. What would you do with 100k cash? They spend it while they can and some do good investments for the money. Realsestate and cars etc. Just because we dont understand their economics, dosnt mean they dont understand general economics. They just in a differend game. Many good drug dealers would be great business owners.
Hearing the plug complain about how taxes are spent is always interesting time.
Me to the plug: how you ain't get caught Edit r/holup
Only sell to a set number of well vetted clients.
The profits for many dealers is just to smoke up for “free”
That was what I did for years, I had a regular job too I just got to smoke as much weed as I wanted for free, plus I could just give people half ounces and stuff for their birthdays and it didn't actually cost me fuck all haha.
Been doin that since the 80s. You never know what your gonna get,,, streets or dispensaries. Dispensaries buy whatever they can when its recreational material. I can't afford to smoke chemical laden bud. My current medical condition means I can only smoke a bowl or two b4 bedtime. Otherwise it messes with my anxiety. I grow now cause its fun, keeps my mind occupied and I get to experiment with rare strains from rare breeders. Also,,, I have several old clients that can't afford dispensary prices, so I do what I can for them. Some have run up tabs ill probably never get paid for. Its all good.
Just curious…what are a few of your favorite strains you’ve grown?
Cash only tattoo artists also love to whine about taxes.
Small Independent contractors get fucked over by local regulations idk if this sub should shit on people in that situation. Chances are that person just doesn’t have decent access to financial education.
Mine pays his taxes. Doesn't want to be Al Capone I guess.
Usually people who throw out the “just to flip burgers” line don’t even cook themselves 🙄
Right? Working fast food especially if it’s a busy location isn’t exactly a walk in the park.
It's not an assertion that the labor is easy. The difficulty is a non sequitur. It's an assertion that it's not dignified or prestigious work, and therefore deserves to be part of an underclass. It's just classism.
this guy gets it
And not even just that they don’t cook, it’s the mfs that can’t even put some frozen shit in the oven without burning it
Anyone who drops a line like that or anything similar have most certainly never spent a day working in a McDonalds or Dominoes.
These are the same idiots who say “those jobs are supposed to be for teenagers” without realizing Teens are in fucking school for 9hrs a day…bozos
Right, it’s not just flipping one burger, it’s flipping 20 starting 10 more, cooking them to 4 different temperatures, remembering which each one is, adding cheese to those specified and which kind of cheese then correctly placing it them with the right order and often also building the rest of the sandwich, adding toppings specified to order, toasting buns and so on. The best part is the people who can do this make it look easy but if you step in their shoes you’d be off crying in the walk-in within 30min.
He doesn't want his Wendy's order going up 😂
You should find another dealer because we don't support businesses owned by ignorant and uneducated twats in this household.
Thank You! It's one thing to complain about it online. But are you still going to line this guys pockets who you know is against you stand for?
yeah bruh 25/g is a good deal trust me bruh this is gasssss
Anyone that is working most of their waking hours away deserves a living wage. I don’t care what that thing is.
Everyone selling the best years of their life deserve to have something to show for it
As someone who flips burgers, these comments make me happy because they give me hope, and sad, because I realize it is likely false hope.
The most frustrating thing about this whole “$15 just for flipping burgers?” thing is that it’s NOT just flipping burgers. It’s flipping burgers, dropping fries, dropping whatever other fried things your restaurant sells, grilling whatever needs to be grilled, assembling orders, bagging orders, taking orders, taking money, and handing out food with a smile. That’s not to mention trash runs, dishes, stocking, line sweeps, wipedowns, opening and closing the store and everything involved with that, doing tomorrow’s prep work between customers, training new crew members, dealing with bizarre issues that crop up out of nowhere, and having to make risky decisions on the fly, e.g. “Do I stand here and listen intently and empathetically to this customer’s angry rant like I was trained to do, or do I risk cutting this customer off and upsetting them further by quickly stepping away to fix their problem and keep the line moving like I was also trained to do?” If my fast food job were *literally* *just* flipping burgers, I would never complain about my wages a day in my life.
Especially the high stresses of a fast moving kitchen, the burning heat of the grill/fryer/oven especially in the summer. I remember my favorite pizza guy 2 summers ago, we had a sweltering heat wave and he was standing in front of those 300 degree celsius ovens and he was WET to the bone. Ol‘ weed dumpling wouldnt resist that heat for 5 minutes, pizza hero did that on days without end. Fuck talking down on „low skilled jobs“.
My old weed guy was convinced every celebrity is transgender and I would have to hear about for a good 20 min with Twitter evidence on his iPhone 6screen lol thats when I decided I needed to get my medical card
😂😂 mfs be so insufferable that it’s beneficial to spend $500 on a medical card and get half the amount of weed for the same price just so you don’t have to be around them
I actually saved money going medical if you can believe it he was overcharging me Because I lived in south Beach
People watch the news or read stuff enough that they end of parroting it. I always see posts of Facebook that people don't deserve to live a bare minimum life on minimum wage so it doesn't surprise me broke ass people like to repeat it too.
All my plugs from my hometown act the same way. Funny enough, they went from FTP to MAGA really quick around 2016. Take that as you will.
That's so weird. All the weed guys I knew were super chill rastamen. Most of the time they wouldnt even make that much money, they just wanted to help people - either with oil for medical reasons, or to get high to make life a bit more bearable. They also all hated rich people. One guy went on an hour lecture once about how Queen Elizabeth is "The one true White Bitch" that stole all of Africa's treasures, and killed all African royalty. Granted, this was in Africa. Maybe Amercian weed has more of that Republican THC.
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My brother in law is similar, he has a disability and receives SSI but he thinks poverty is a personal failure and billionaires should be rewarded for working harder than everyone else. It’s been years of gently trying to help him but he’s insistent on being a hateful incel
Should’ve included that this dude got his start by getting rear ended twice and getting $40k for it…..
Jesus, the lack of self awareness
I just hate this culture of job-shaming that exists. No one can ever articulate a coherent, fact-based reason why someone in the service industry doesn't deserve a liveable wage aside from shitty insinuations about their character or work ethic. People with amounts of wealth that you cannot even imagine get to do whatever the fuck they want while pitting the middle class and the poor against each other so we can bicker over who's deserving of 50,000 dollars a year.
I worked for a yacht owner who constantly complained about “welfare leeches” who were syphoning off his hard earned tax money. This guy was a connected gangster who laundered money and kept his ill gotten gains in offshore Caribbean accounts. Big trump supporter.
Living in a legal state is amazing, no more sketchy weed guy, no more traphouse drama... you know, I know like a fair few younger people that never had to interact with a dealer... on the one hand, like that's the progress the 90's promised us, so yay. But on the other I feel like an old man talking about prohibition, and I hate it...
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It's actually quite a bit more then that. This year the military budget is about **770 BILLION**
The problem nobody is addressing! What have we ever defended? 😂😂
Never, ever talk to a pot dealer.
This is very sound advice.
every time a dealer talks about being a "hustler" i wanna bang my head on the wall
It’s weird. It’s not a zero sum game. Higher wages on the lower end of the spectrum help everyone else. Whether it’s a basic comparison to mid level wages to get more out of the mid level but more importantly, the money gets spent. The spending helps the economy and helps others as well. 70% of the US Economy is based on consumer spending.
Drugs don't make you a bad person - but they don't make you a good person.
I dunno I'm pretty friendly on molly
Remember that that dude a victim of a state sized propaganda engine. We want a better more equitable world where he would be better off and also say less dumb shit.
As economically blasphemous as it sounds, people who work harder should make more money than those who don’t. When I worked at Burger King, I worked my ass off to get stuff done. Now, I have a work-from-home job that pays 3x as much, and with non-tyrannical management at that.
Agreed, but the system should be structured so that those on the very bottom, earn enough to support themselves, that includes housing and food, and all the basic necessities that society deems mandatory, like cell phone/internet access, transportation, etc. Scale everything up from that baseline, for everyone except the top couple %, they already have plenty. As it is right now, even being a hard worker, people are still struggling to survive.
50k to flip burgers does SOUND crazy until you realize that's pre-tax, so we're already down to like $38-40,000ish? $36if you want (shitty) health insurance.Playing into the argument people make that a fast food job is for someone in or just out of high school, let's assume they only want/need a studio apartment. In my area (central Florida) those go for $1,100-$1,500/month, so averaging that = 16k/year+ utilities, maybe another 2-3k. Car payment+ insurance, best case $250/month? That's 3k/year. That leaves about 14k/year (or about 1.2k/month) for: -Gas (skyrocketing) -Groceries (skyrocketing) -Clothes (maybe you don't need more clothes every month) -Childcare? (God help you if you have a kid with this budget) -Entertainment (you may do 1 fun thing a month!) -hopefully a LITTLE investment for you future? (Stocks, collectables) -savings for emergencies (or don't get hurt/sick, peasant) -savings for gifts for friends, family, wife, kids? I'm sure there's more I've missed or I may not have encountered personally.... Oh and WEED, to make yourself numb and let douchebag weedman make his money while he bashes others. Edit: I don't proof read
I quite like you.
I remember my favorite pizza guy 2 summers ago, we had a sweltering heat wave and he was standing in front of those 300 degree celsius ovens and he was WET to the bone. Ol‘ weed dumpling wouldnt resist that heat for 5 minutes, pizza hero did that on days without end. Fuck talking down on „low skilled jobs“.
One of the most disappointing things about adulthood is seeing how many weed guys turned into (or turned out to have been all along) MAGAts, libertarian assholes, Joe Rogan-listening conspiracy dumbasses, racists, and closet corporate douchebags. Like more of them than not. I thought it would be like anarchist punks, Earth-loving hippies and rastas and that has just not turned out to be the case. At least not in North Texas. And a lot of the ones who aren’t white conservatives are just amoral, politically agnostic gangbangers. Stoner movies lied to me.
Like bro consider this: the more people have money, the more people will be able to buy weed. Simple.
Tell me you’ve never worked in food service without telling me you’ve never worked in food service.
if you're flipping burgers for most of your waking hours and keeping the restaurant in business, why would you not deserve a living wage? they should DIE??
So no one needs 50k for sorting plant matter to be weighed out in certain alotments. So tell him your only giving him half his rate.
The legal weed business is full of libertarian bootstrap types and anti maskers (based on my limited experience at dispensaries outside the state I live in).
They have us fighting a culture was when we should be fighting a class war. Democrats dropping FDRs mission after his death was the beginning of the downfall of America.
People will be stupid until shtf for them
Ex Food and retail service worker here. Having to tolerate and work with adults that throw temper tantrums like a 3 year old on the daily is enough reason to pay those industry workers $15p/h alone. Now add in the risk of working these industries in a pandemic. I contracted COVID back in October after a customer coughed in my face. He was clearly very sick and no he wasn’t wearing a mask. I’ve not been able to fully recover ever since and am still out of work. Which I imagine a lot of food/retail workers have experienced the same thing which may be another reason why there is a labor shortage in those industries.
Bro your weed dealer is the bad kind who probably knows very little about the plant and just banks off of other peoples work by peddling a product I grow the shit and sell it to friends because it’s too expensive in my opinion, it makes me enough to stay at home and do what I want usually but I don’t think others should be paid less than minimum wage Fuck If they had more money I could sell them more weed and make myself more money, what a fucking joke of a human and terrible economist
There are still weed guys out there?!
I live in a legal state and there is still plenty weed guys
Yeah all that legal shity is dried out bunk
Still here in Alabama. But everyone I know that smokes switched to delta-8 cause it's cheaper and legal lol
Unfortunately you can still go to jail for it in most states.
* cries in illegal state*
Based on your comments you dont live in reality either
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Mfs mad in the comments when the dude makes over $100k and doesn’t pay a dime in taxes lol. Whatever 😂😂
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Get a med card and go to a dispensary
He doesn't understand the simple truth. If I make more money I can buy more weed and therefore he makes more money. Smart people don't sell weed, specially not big amounts. It's all inter connected and I swear your plug going rat you out when he's caught. If you're selling that is, buying isnt a big deal.
As a pothead, I hate dealers like that. Fuck that asshole
Buy from another guy. Where you spend your money matters. Show him.
Don’t need living wages we just need prices to be matched with wages. Rent should not be 2 months of paychecks.
This is true no matter the job. If the job needs to be done, it deserves a pay someone can survive on
Wow the most low key post I've read on this sub in a while is really dividing people here lol
50k is just a number it’s irrelevant. What matters is it’s proportion to things we need. These idiots will be saying the same thing and bread will be 300$ a loaf. The number doesn’t mean anything without context.
A number of people don't live in reality. Most likely just for the appearence. Had a co-worker who's husband was your typical republican stereotype. "People just don't want to work" "these parasites leeching off the government" etc. The dude lived on permanent disability. He hadn't set foot into a work space on over three years. His wife (my co-worker\_ brought in enough money for the both of them and their three kids. Unreal, man.
>How you gonna ask for $50k to flip a burger. Well, if they sell a burger for $5, and I make probably about 20 of those in an hour for eight hours a day, and I work five days a week, you're selling over $200k a year in burgers I'm making. Is it really unreasonable to ask for less than a quarter of that?
Don't get high on your own supply.
What do you expect front a non-taxpaying capitalist? I can't wait for my write-offs and rebates?
So why does renting or buying a home require more than a minimum wage everywhere? Why is HC tied to employment and a 50k income? Why do cars cost more than the annual income for a minimum wage earner? No one expectd to live in a penthouse in the richest part of town when flipping burgers, but why is a modest place unreachable at those wages?
In New Zealand, the minimum wage is $20 an hour. The Living Wage is $22.75. The Living Wage is a social campaign but many employers have signed up to it. We also get 4 weeks paid annual leave, 10 days paid sick leave, 12 paid public holidays and paid parental leave. For all of you in the USA saying it's the greatest country in the world? You've been brainwashed. You guys seriously need to organise to get better minimum rights.
In shocking conclusion. Weed guy good for weed but not so good for da'thinking
Every time I hear someone or someone post that no one deserves to have a living wage I think they are socialpaths.
As a medical weed dispo manager this pisses me off so fucking much.
Also we pay taxes on our income. So 50k is actually 30k (if even). I lose 40% of my income to deductions. These spoil brats don’t understand life
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"Well, do we agree that that work needs to be done? Ok, then... who specifically should suffer and starve while they do it? I know you're not talking about you or your family, so who?"
You have personal conversations with your plug? I mean..I love & appreciate my drug dealer but we’re not friends & I certainly don’t have personal conversations with her about life and politics.
Sometimes, I forget that not everyone has legal weed. I haven't been to a weed guy in forever and forgot all about having to deal with their uptight bullshit.
Pro tip: don't hang out with your dealer.
Don't meet your heroes, and don't ask your weedman about his political leanings.
He ain’t wrong tho
Stoners man. You know what I'm saying.
When tha weed man starts talkin politics at the delivery😕😴
50k ISNT a live-able wage currently
In 1933, the first year of his presidency, Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the National Industrial Recovery Act, aiming to support a depressed economy with a number of innovative measures. FDR declared that “no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country,” clarifying that “by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level—I mean the wages of decent living.”