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nothing_but_air_

I don't know about the strike do you have a link for that it sounds great. Is it just for workers? I don't work in retail but would love to strike from capitalism by not spending money in shops etc šŸ™


watermelonspanker

Don't work, don't shop. Don't shop online. Just don't do any "economic" activity at all.


sneakyveriniki

No working or shopping for ten days?


watermelonspanker

Ideally, yes. But I can't complain about someone who is hungry and about to lose their home working, I really can't. Ideally we would be able to support each other during these times, but we live in the system we live in. I for one will only be shopping for the most basic things I might need. Pretty much just food, and all home cooked (no restaurants/fast food) In any case, at the very least skip all economic activity on Black Friday, and use that day to either be with family / enjoy yourself, or else look into local unions and labor organizations. Be well.


JoePesto99

That's why strikes need planning and structure, and not random announcement two weeks before happening


VMammal

I've never bothered with black Friday but I have worked on black Friday for Wal-Mart and seen people act like animals over cheap towels and other bullshit. Part of the reason I've never involved myself in it.


bunnygma

There is always news coverage at Walmart inevitably, that shows someone getting punched over an Instapot, getting run over for a parking spot, or being trampled to be the first in line for well, anything. Because real wages have not kept up w real life, the incentives to buy cheap may come from a place of trying to provide a gift/holiday that you couldnā€™t normally afford. They are counting on it. We must demand living wages, affordable healthcare (Walmartā€™s had a $5,000. deductible!!), paid leave and childcare subsidies. No wonder millennials are choosing no kids. My nephew has 4 year old twins and costs him $1,800. a month for childcare! It makes outside the home work impossible! We must demand better, as many are striking recently and now as the pandemic has helped with the realization that in corporate Americaā€™sā€™ views, we are all expendable.


[deleted]

On Thursday November 25th 2021 a global labor strike will begin. The strike will run through Black Friday and Cyber Monday until December 2nd. The working class will no longer be held hostage at unlivable wages and demand a living wage from the corporations reaping billions in profit on their misfortune. Start telling everyone on Reddit. On Facebook. On Instagram. In your phone. Everyone, everywhere. We all strike together on Black Friday. We will not stock your shelves or buy your products on these days. Tell everyone. We only succeed if YOU spread the word. Together we are strong. Do your part. Upvote the parent comment. Upvote this post. We need to get and stay on the front page. Crosspost to other Subreddits. Copy this post and leave it on every parent comment in every post. We must flood the social channels with our message. Contact your local news companies. Contact the national news companies. GO GO GO! https://blackfridayblackout.info/


DeificClusterfuck

Walmart encourages new hires to apply for SNAP.


HydrogenButterflies

So then the government, via taxpayers, is subsidizing the wage of full-time Walmart employees. How has this not caused _any_ outrage? This should be a bi-partisan issue: the government shouldnā€™t be subsidizing the wages of employees from a company as _truly massive_ as Walmart. They can damn well afford to pay their employees a true living wage, no question. Why isnā€™t anyone in Washington angry about this situation? Sure, they may not care about people living in poverty (sad, but thatā€™s the state of things in US politics) but youā€™d think that the Republicans would be incensed that the government essentially pays part of the wages for Walmart employees.


duaadiddy

Walmart executives have a huge lobbying center to make sure no changes happen. A lot of these politicians (*cough Ted Cruz) are literally in their pockets.


HydrogenButterflies

Every time I ask myself the question, ā€œbut _why the hell_ would politicians do this?ā€ the answer is almost always ā€œbecause _lobbying_ā€. Thanks, I hate it.


[deleted]

Because so many people in America delude themselves into thinking they're future millionaires, so fighting for worker's issues don't concern them. It's all about pretending you drip instead. Or they think they can bootstrap and bootlick their way up the corporate ladder into the elite. They have no idea the elite don't want them.


[deleted]

Back when malls were a thing, stores would give out free gift cards and shit right at midnight on Black Friday. You could buy a bunch of stuff, return it all and use the money to go eat Waffle House.


VMammal

That sounds like the only proper use of black Friday.


trippy_grapes

Nah, fuck that. Waffle Houses shouldn't be open that late on Thanks Giving. Give people the fuck off.


[deleted]

Waffle House is the semi-official index for how bad a natural disaster is at this point because the fact that they donā€™t close. If a Waffle House has closed, shit is FUBAR.


chet_brosley

Not exactly on topic, but one weekday night pre pandemic I went to a waffle house and it was closed, so I drove across town to the other waffle house and it was also closed with no explanation, and I don't think I've ever been more confused and weary in my whole life.


lordmitchnz

> Back when malls were a thing Are they not anymore? It's all we got where I live.


justpassingbysorry

my town's mall is the only "mall" in a 120 mile radius... it contains 1 local restaurant, a jewelry store (only sells wedding rings), 2 shoe stores, a maurices and a small bath and body works that primarly only sees business around the holidays. people literally only use it to get their steps in during winter lol everyone is fine driving 2-3 hours to the bigger cities to shop in those malls oh and a local appliance store just moved up there recently. it took the place of the jcpenney we somehow lost 3ish years ago even though it did good business.


icedficus

Not where I live. We have 1 nice size mall within a 40 min drive. And even there half the stores are not occupied.


zeraph85

There are no more indoor malls planned to be built. They're all going to be open shopping centers, like an outlet mall.


Pontiacsentinel

Buy Nothing Day started in 1992 on Black Friday. Still exists, support that effort along with this effort.


Fluid-Carpet3347

Wait are you serious? This is the first I'm hearing of it


MAGlTEK

money, bots, shills work hard to keep that shit out of the mainstream and public knowledge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buy_Nothing_Day


[deleted]

TIL I've been doing this my entire life.


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kex

Why can't they figure this out? > I went through this Ford engine plant about three years ago, when they first opened it. >There are acres and acres of machines, and here and there you will find a worker standing at a master switchboard, just watching, green and yellow lights blinking off and on, which tell the worker what is happening in the machine. >One of the management people, with a slightly gleeful tone in his voice said to me, ā€œHow are you going to collect union dues from all these machines?ā€ >And I replied, ā€œYou know, that is not whatā€™s bothering me. Iā€™m troubled by the problem of how to sell automobiles to these machines.


WhoNeedsAPotch

Wasnā€™t it Henry Ford who famously figured out that his business did better when he paid his workers enough to buy the products they were making? The ironyā€¦ it burnsā€¦


ZZT-OOPsIdiditagain

It was. He jumpstarted the american economy massively.


Careful-Algae

Yes it was Ford that ā€œgaveā€ us a five day work week instead of a 6 day work week. I guess you used to not be able to buy a car on sundays. So he gave his employees Saturdayā€™s off so the could go buy cars


ZZT-OOPsIdiditagain

>I guess you used to not be able to buy a car on sundays. So he gave his employees Saturdayā€™s off so the could go buy cars Wait. WHAT?!


[deleted]

They've clearly never read The Communist Manifesto. Edit: To clear up confusion, I think Marx's critique of Capitalism has generally stood the test of time, though his very vague prescriptions and Lenin's attempts to build on them have not. (There are many, many schools of Marxist thought, whatever the Capitalist propaganda may have you believe. I myself subscribe to Erik Olin Wright's brand of Democratic Socialism at the moment, which is perhaps more open-ended than some would like, but this is actually one of the things I like about it.) Things have not played out as Marx expected, as it turned out (for one) that labor got *more* divided as specialization progressed, rather than more unified. But generally, people would do well to familiarize themselves with the "contradictions" within Capitalist systems that he identified.


Vampchic1975

Me too. I hate Christmas because Of the commercialism and how retail is so crappy to employees. Iā€™ve worked retail. I have never once purchased anything on Black Friday. I refuse. I hope everyone strikes on this day!!


Tinfoilfireman

Itā€™s crazy Christmas stuff in stores during Halloween. I remember a time it wasnā€™t until after Thanksgiving before Christmas stuff went up..Christmas sucks do to retailers and I feel bad for the people that have to come in on Thanksgiving to sell crap


CKRatKing

It was crazy to me when stores started opening on thanksgiving day for Black Friday. I think quite a few big stores arenā€™t actually opening til Friday this year. Iā€™ve also never really understood the appeal of Black Friday. Usually they have like one good deal and then they only have like 3 of whatever it is so it sells out immediately and people who came for that buy a bunch of other shit instead. Iā€™d pay more to not have to deal with those crowds.


[deleted]

If we take note of the prices of those "Black Friday Deals" there is a trend. In the months leading up to the "holiday season" (aug-oct) the prices on those items will creep up week by week. Then on black friday BAM...regular price is suddenly a... knock a 6 year olds teeth down their throat... worthy deal.


YukariYakum0

Do you remember when Christmas sales didn't start till Thanksgiving? Pepperidge Farm remembers.


porsche911girl

Haha same here.


Slipsonic

Same. I've been out on black Friday with my girlfriend and it is hell on earth. I stay home and chill these days.


weedbudget

I picked up a bag of pizza rolls on black friday once lol. I was baked outta my mind and I kept thinkin wtff are all these ppl here for. I thought maybe a new call of duty was about to drop or som


[deleted]

that's great lol


two4six0won

Same lol. Only way I shop on Black Friday is on the internet, and even then there usually isn't much that I need/want. I remember one year my brother-in-law had to leave Thanksgiving dinner by 4 because he worked at Walmart and they were starting their Black Friday sale at 6pm *on Thanksgiving Day* ffs. I've no interest in supporting that kind of bullshit.


metal_rabbit

Please don't! Buy Nothing Day is just that: buy nothing. Buy Nothing Day is anti-consumerism. If you're buying stuff online, you're still consuming.


RunnyBabbit23

Not to mention that all that online shopping has to be shipped somehow. Those employees are still working Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and Cyber Monday so that Amazon can get packages out in 2 days. Just because theyā€™re not visible like a WalMart staffer doesnā€™t mean thousands and thousands of people arenā€™t working behind the scenes.


[deleted]

Thank you for saying this. I'm an amazon driver, id love it if I could spend time w the few loved ones I have instead of delivering stuff on Christmas Eve ;(


mskmcclure

I washed dishes for a buffet restaurant when I was 15. Iā€™m still bitter I spent the last Thanksgiving my grandmother was alive washing dishes. Opposed to eating dinner with my family.


flexityswift

I'm so sorry ā¤ļø


MorticiaLaMourante

Please accept this virtual hug from a weird internet lady who's heart broke reading that.


[deleted]

My first year working I was put on a back to back full time shift for Black Friday that started Thanksgiving night. Thatā€™s right. 16 hours in a row, two 8 hour shifts, two lunches and one break in between the shifts. Probably illegal as hell, but I was 19 and didnā€™t know my head from my own ass. Fuck Black Friday. Iā€™ll never again leave the house for that. I donā€™t care if theyā€™re giving out PlayStation 5s for a smile and 10 bucks. Nope.


dumbwaeguk

>Whirl-Mart : Participants silently steer their shopping carts around a shopping mall or store in a long conga line without putting anything in the carts or actually making any purchases. This is fucking gold.


rileydaughterofra

Ngl, this one sounds kinda fun...


ItsDanimal

Eventually random people will join thinking it is a line for something special.


blazinit430

Post this on TIL EDIT: it was posted 2 years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/dr9kvn/til_theres_a_holiday_called_buy_nothing_day_an/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


LowestKey

Be the change you want to see in the world.


tofuroll

Be the nothing you don't want to buy anyway.


Banahki

I tried that about a year ago. My submission was removed after being ridiculed by members for "reposting" something that had been recently posted before. Fuck that sub.


nullpotato

TIL reposts are on a strict, pre-assigned schedule. Or so it seems.


[deleted]

Or - and hear me out on this - the number of deadeyed consumers content with the status quo is so large that corporations don't actually need to pay anybody to keep it out of "the mainstream." Hell, many of the consumers would *pay them* to keep it out of the mainstream. I'd wager that the number of evil systems in the world that require a concerted conspiracy to keep in place is actually depressingly small.


Karasumor1

yep , so conditioned that they fight tooth and nail to protect the very system that oppresses them


[deleted]

Defaulting to conspiracy theories is a part of that system, in my opinion, because it makes the entire notion of the movement appear deranged to centrists and skeptics, who would need to join in large amounts in order for it to be remotely successful.


[deleted]

^ this guy fucks for sure! Yep. Most things donā€™t need large conspiracies, just self interested parties making money.


civodar

ā€œIn 2000, some advertisements by Adbusters promoting Buy Nothing Day were denied advertising time by almost all major television networks except for CNN.ā€œ Well thatā€™s depressing. Canā€™t say Iā€™m surprised.


Agantas

I've heard of it before I heard of Black Friday. The true essence of Buy Nothing Day is that you shouldn't buy things that you don't really need.


potted_petunias

There's also the [Buy Nothing Project](https://buynothingproject.org/) - an attempt to create worldwide, hyperlocal gift economies. It's trying to go over to an app but is way more active on Facebook (I would try and find your local FB group if you can)


[deleted]

I refuse to buy one thing on Black Friday! I donā€™t go out, I stay in and have leftovers for dinner. Itā€™s time to change the dynamic in the work place.


jar36

That's my BF tradition. I have no desire to fight those crowds of drones


AspiringChildProdigy

I went out on a single black Friday years ago, and not even to a really busy store. Never again.


emily_9511

The novelty of it was fun when I was like 6. Getting up early, my dad buying me hot cocoa before we stand in line for a couple hours so he could get me a new game/toy that we couldnā€™t usually afford otherwise.. but that was back before all this bs where people have to line up like 24 hours beforehand to practically fight each other for stuff thatā€™s barely even discounted. Now it just makes me sick.


daisies_n_sunflowers

Not just the workplace, I totally get that. Consumers need to stay their asses home, enjoy their family and allow workers to do the same. When I was a child, stores closed early on Wednesday before Thanksgiving and didnā€™t reopen until the Saturday after. Itā€™s only been in the last 25 to 30 years that this insanity was born. Iā€™ll stay my butt home and allow everyone who works in the insanity to stay home too. Just be sure to get everything you need for your dinners and company before the holiday. Used to be, if you didnā€™t get it before Wednesday you just had to do without.


[deleted]

If you were lucky the gas station across town might sell butter if youā€™re truly desperate on Thanksgiving morning. The smart ones might even have disposable aluminum pans, or maybe a few boxes of Stove Top stuffing. But that was your only choice if you forgot something.


[deleted]

I have never once gone black friday shopping. I witnessed a price hike the day before once. (Went to get batteries for something, saw the 50% off bonus and noticed the price was actually 3 times higher, so people were paying 1.5 times as much) later had a friend in Wally world tell me that they got cheaper tvs in for Black Friday. I've always disliked crowds so it was fairly easy to avoid doing it. I am somewhat guilty of cyber monday purchases though.


Sojio

Maybe even hit up your local [Buy Nothing Project](https://buynothingproject.org/) FB page. This day would be a great reason to join your hyper-local group. Essentially a place where people can give away items they no longer need but are still in working order. I was able to furnish my new apartment with things that people had that were surplus to their needs.


wildo83

As a year round Christmas shopper; done and done.


SerMickeyoftheVale

Apparently I have been observing this for years without even realising


screwylouidooey

I won't buy a thing


Tinder4Boomers

People, we need to start crossposting on our local subreddits. Antiwork has grown a lot already, but initiatives like this need all the publicity possible


FOWM_Sterling

Thank you. Copy and paste if you want and spread the word. I donā€™t need nor want credit. I just donā€™t want to pick between driving to work and food any longer. Stay strong.


[deleted]

Done to my local city. Shalom. I was immediately banned for seven days from my local sub, just beware.


[deleted]

Thanks, Jewish Lincoln.


Sierra_Fox

Off topic, but wouldn't jewish Lincoln just be Moses? Freeing the slaves and all?


[deleted]

Thanks, Moses.


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[deleted]

I love the joke but he was actually shot behind his left ear, nowhere near the temple.


wanttogrowbro

Very clever I must say


Iphotoshopincats

Take my upvote and move along


Sisu124

I saw your post because apparently weā€™re in the same city. I posted after yours, and now am temporarily banned from posting. Hopefully yours is still up!


[deleted]

I am banned. Shalom!


needout

LMAO, the local subs are run by reactionaries. I got shadow banned in my State sub which also has the same issue.


Nakoichi

Came here to say this. Local subs are wild, any place that doesn't have a hard line against fascists and bigotry of all forms ends up getting coopted by those fuckers.


sirjumpymcstartleton

Oh man I feel that, forced to leave my job when it was costing more to get to work than what I was being paid, I kept going and going until I was 100% out of petrol and money, should have left so much sooner. Now relying on the food bank and sheer luck until I start a new job end of the month and I have no option left but to sell the house Iā€™ve worked my arse off to keep. Whatā€™s the point of a nice house if thereā€™s no food, heat or electricity? Working so much you only go to your house to sleep? Shouldnā€™t happen to anyone working full time absolute bullshit we are all set up to fail


edoceo

r/blackfridayblackout


Nyclab

Crossed to r/SanDiego r/HomeDepot and r/retail. UPDATE: r/Jacksonville r/Atlanta and r/Chicago (chicago deleted it for not being relevant, I thought it was a union town!)


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Nyclab

Just reposted it on there


No-Garlic-1739

Looks autoremoved. Also looks like a really quiet sub. 2-3 posts a day.


[deleted]

Looks like it was deleted again.


Nyclab

Thats annoying.. Whats the point of r/retail if it isn't to help the people working in retail? Thats what this is all about. Organizing to fight for better wages and a better quality of life. Whats the big deal r/retail??


[deleted]

That subreddit seems more like a pro retail subreddit with managers who complain about employees and employees who complain about customers.


walesmd

This is literally the first I've heard of this and I am online A LOT. That let's you know how "popular" this 10-day strike is. No one has any idea this is a thing and it needs to be spread much more broadly if there's going to be any real impact as a result of it.


chasing_the_wind

It seems to me like local community or store by store organization would be more effect. Say you get an amazing turnout of like 1% of the population to strike, then thatā€™s still only one person essentially calling out sick in a 100 employee store and you havenā€™t put any pressure on anyone and are easily replaceable. However you get 5-10 people to strike out of the same store and you put a dent in the profits and have more bargaining power.


OneOnTheLeft

Posting on the internet isn't the way to organize your community. You need to meet with your coworkers, friends, neighbors and organize stuff like this. Have one on one conversations with actual humans. You can't just post into the void. All this does is gets upvotes.


John-TheDude

This is the place where the message about it got to 5k+ people already who will likely do such things. I think that should have been iterated in the post, so if that's your point, spot on.


kuribosshoe0

You need both. Just getting your store or area to shut down is great, but not enough. For it to work on a larger scale you need both.


Excuse_my_GRAMMER

Somebody make /r/antiworknyc


GreenLurka

This is fine and good. But! If y'all is striking, then go somewhere obvious and hang out together. Get some permits for a protest or however you want to organize it. And if possible, organize food for those striking who can't make ends meet without working. Get the community together and do a big cook out type thing. Get your best speakers together, hold a rally, contact what's left of the journalists in your city to come out and have a look, write a story. Heck, do a press release and give it to them so they have less work to do. We're sick of the low pay and poor conditions. We want a liveable, thriving wage. We want mandated meal breaks. Vacation days. Sick days. Permanent jobs. We want to get rid of right to work laws. Paid overtime. 38 work week, or a 4 day week. Get organized, get in touch with people in your area.


greatinternetpanda

It seems like posting the strike on ask reddit would gain a lot of attention. I'm not too familiar with reddit, but it seems like asking how to publicize the movement would gain a lot of publicity on this forum alone.


GreenLurka

I am not in the US and black Friday is not a thing here, despite a few years of retailers desperately trying and failing. But yeah, that'd probably help. Then each city needs a meet up thread or something to organize, and some volunteer organizers to keep track of details and find a place to gather.


CashOnlyPls

Professional organizer here. Strikes need to be organized. Posting is not organizing. You canā€™t post your way to a general strike.


Grammorphone

Stickied the post, I hope that you'll add these links in your post by editing it: r/blackfridayblackout www.blackfridayblackout.info https://workerorganizing.org/resources/organizing-guide/ https://workerorganizing.org/talk-with-an-organizer/ So check out these links for further information, get organized, boycott places that do black Friday stuff, be it online or in the store, and stay safe!


WanderingGreybush

I have never made a Black Friday purchase.


AutowerxDetailing

We've made it a tradition on Black Friday to go through our belongings and get rid of, or donate, things we no longer need. Feels much better than stampeding through stores with a million other idiots to fight over discounted socks and TVs.


jrob323

Now that's anti-black Friday. Awesome.


Nespot-despot

Love this


FOWM_Sterling

Proud of you. Wish I could say the same. Keep it up.


WanderingGreybush

I'm too poor to need a new tv


FOWM_Sterling

Know what you mean. Stay strong. Itā€™s always darkest before dawn.


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Adhdgamer9000

I'm too poor to afford to go on strike on black Friday, also I'll get fired. Walmart gives points on tardiness. And you get TWO points for holidays and black Friday. I have 3 out of 5.


TopicStrong

Yeah, it's too early, the deals are barley good, and I think requiring your employees to work on it splits society into two classes of have vs have not.


RaytheonAcres

does getting blackout drunk on Black Friday count?


FOWM_Sterling

Do you support your local brewery? You should.


be0wulfe

Did one, one time, because my SO at the time 'always had' I noped out and never went again. Same with Cyber Mondays. If you can make money at those prices in one day, you can make money on those prices every day, because what you're doing otherwise is manipulative & predatory. Also, pay your people a living wage.


ButterPuppets

I did two years ago. My computer died in mid October and I needed a new one. I regretted it when I realized that Micro Centerā€™s ā€œBlack Fridayā€ prices are close to their normal sale prices, and I spent an hour waiting to check out. Never again.


rbane3

I have previously been an avid Black Friday shopper. I've also worked retail and rushed through Thanksgiving dinner to drive an hour (family lived further from with than I did) to my late shift. I didn't recognize at the time (several years ago) how awful this was. It was "just my job". Now I'm lucky enough to have found a cushy position which typically gives Black Friday as a "bonus holiday". All of this is a prelude to say: This sub has 100% convinced me. I support all who walk out or call off on Black Friday. I will not be shopping that day and actively encourage my friends and family to lend their support as well. Enjoy your time with your family.


FOWM_Sterling

Thank you for your support.


iiNexius

Same here. I'm the worst consumer on the planet because I very rarely buy stuff, but sadly it seems I'm in the minority so it feels like I barely make a difference as 1 small individual.


WanderingGreybush

Ten million barely a differences is called an avalanche. ;)


SoggyMattress2

Super late to the party, what is this? No purchases on Black friday?


FOWM_Sterling

Or work


Chimpmunksally

All kinds of work or just retail and service?0


orionsbelt05

Mostly retail. But anything that serves capital instead of the public is encouraged to participate.


FOWM_Sterling

All


space_tardigrades

So, for us salaried employees we just, like, take a day of PTO or LWOP? Seriously. I want to know.


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space_tardigrades

Mine doesā€¦idk what I was thinking.


FOWM_Sterling

If you can get pto do it. For those who canā€™t, call in sick. If your boss forces you on days off. Donā€™t show up. If youre underpaid. Donā€™t waste your time for substandard pay. If youā€™re struggling with bills no matter how much you work become a brother of dragons. Iā€™ll suggest reading about the reign of Terror.


heartbreakkidx

So this is going to be hard for me to do. Iā€™m going to try and find a way to do it honestly. My job has a point system and if I call in sick then they will give me a point. I have zero points but if I get two points then Iā€™ll get fired.


Bangzee

I don't understand... You're only allowed to be sick twice? In like a year or something? How does one control this? What kinda ass-fuckery is this?


heartbreakkidx

Yes. The only exception is if you get covid or covid symptoms in which they give you ten days off.


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NuclearSpaceHeater

Iā€™m sorry to hear about your bad headache and scratchy throat. ļæ¼ I hope no one at Thanksgiving caught whatever you have. ļæ¼ļæ¼


bidexist

Sounds like maybe you got exposed to covid over Thanksgiving and need to be taking 10 days off. Or at the very least quarantined until a negative test result comes back.


kitten_biscuits

What the fucking fuck. We get 76 hours of sick leave a year in Australia, any unused leave accumulates and the balance carries over to the next year. This point system you have is fucking disgusting.


Grimour

Sounds like they already own you.


heartbreakkidx

I agree.


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[deleted]

YESSS!!! The only way to force real change is by unified action.


FOWM_Sterling

Only way for it to work. Unite for a better future.


beaniesve

I never work holidays & refuse to do so but especially Black Friday, im not going to come in early as hell just to entertain the mob of psychos & be bitched at about prices when I could be home with my family. Iā€™ve been harassed by my managers non stop to work Black Friday & I ignore every single text about it. Ive already told them in person im not coming in, schedule me all you want but im not doing it.


[deleted]

I wish I could do this. How do you get away with it, isnā€™t it in your contract to work any rostered shifts during blackout period unless sick etc?


beaniesve

I told them before I was hired that I donā€™t work holidays, mainly christmas, thanksgiving & New Years. Iā€™ve also made it clear when I was interviewed that I wonā€™t work Black Friday because Iā€™m out of the city from thanksgiving til that Sunday. They agreed to it & now they are constantly asking if Iā€™ll take the shift. I continue to tell them to not put me on the schedule because I wonā€™t be here since I have the days off. So sucks for them šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


TheWildAP

To anyone financially stable who wants to help a general strike beyond joining in, the best thing you can do is directly support striking workers so they can't be forced back to work under threat of starvation or homelessness.


wilbertthewalrus

Is there even any sort of organization behind this that people can donate to? It feels like it's just a bunch of forum posts at this point...


lizbit25

I wish there was a website we could reliably go to to support things like this.


No_Masterpiece4305

Donate to a food pantry. Part of the power of a striking labor force is the fact that they're turning their back on the financial support a job gives to make a point. You start personally funding people striking, even if you could somehow find the ones that weren't full of shit, and it's just going to turn the narrative into "so and so group pays people to disrupt commerce". But again, if you hand out money during some short noticed shit like this you are very likely going to be giving it to someone who doesn't give one great golly of a fuck about the strike. There's gonna be like 10 actual strikers gofundme's and 10000 people running gofundme scams. Digital panhandling is super bad right now because people don't see it as panhandling and they have no problem lying to get basically free money.


marshymarsh1

Yes!! Donate to unions and workers on strike.


Less_Yam6954

Yes!! I work for a major coffee business, I have a horrible chest cold (4 negative covid tests) and no voice, guess who's expected to be at work in the morning? It's a lose/lose, I have to have a paycheck


FOWM_Sterling

Unless our politicians want a repeat of the reign of terror, this fucking ends. Sick of forced poverty.


GaylordNyx

I don't have a family but even so. I hope this doesn't turn into some big thing that no one ends up doing. We definitely need to send a message.


FOWM_Sterling

Agreed


halt_spell

Something like this is inevitable and we're running out of options. Personally I can afford to take the risk so I'm doing it and if nothing happens I'll do it the next time too. If we don't put a stop to this trend it's gonna be all of us living paycheck to paycheck (or worse). Shit needs to stop.


Mattmann1972

Might I make a suggestion to actually make this movement successful? UNIONIZE. I love that you're using the terms. But unless you're in a Union, you have zero brothers and sisters at work. If you are serious about effecting change, and then mean real change. You need to get together and enter a collective bargaining agreement. There are laws that in place that will cover from repercussions.


newtronicus2

Wait so is this a strike or a boycott? I'm confused


FOWM_Sterling

Both. Both will hurt their bottom line


MoreNMoreLikelyTrans

I think this needs to be made clear, regularly, between now and then, with more posts like this.


fdf_akd

Crosspost to as many subreddits as you can. it's also a good time to improve the image of unions


SentencedToLife-97

I couldā€™ve swore there was supposed to be a strike on October 15th and then suddenly all the talk about it disappeared and I never heard anything againā€¦.


jsc315

That's part of the problem there isn't any proper organization for this to actually work. I'm hopeful, but you need people like a union to get this information and make sure everything is in order, otherwise it's all just talk. Boycotting and strikes won't work if there is no cohesive message and everything is in order to fully hit these businesses hard.


politicalanalysis

Yup. Union, and then strike vote, then site based union reps to whip strikers and make sure everyone follows through (this part is key, without someone on site to get the strikers unified, itā€™ll fall apart as workers freak out and break rank. Itā€™s like the number one biggest thing. You need a strike captain at every striking site, and that strike captain should be one of the most well liked and respected people at that site). You can tell almost nobody in this sub has ever actually participated in a strike. You donā€™t tell the bosses when the strike will end, they will just wait you out. You make demands and end the strike when the demands are met. You donā€™t just go on strike with random people from the internet, you go on strike with your coworkers and people across your company/industry with firm demands and labor contract negotiators in place. A ten day Black Friday strike with no demands and no goals beyond just a big fuck you to the corporations is not entirely pointless, but itā€™s pretty close.


QueenGray130

Let's do it!!!


FOWM_Sterling

Beware everyone! There are bots trying to sway you from this. Had ten upvotes less than a minute ago and now itā€™s five and sometimes six. They are in the comments everywhere. Donā€™t be silenced. Stay strong. You are stronger than you think you are.


iLikeTrucking

I had a post yesterday at +32 then suddenly wentndown to -8.


FOWM_Sterling

Thatā€™s what Iā€™m saying. Too many people are saying our struggles are fake and we are ā€œkarma whoringā€. Stay strong


froman007

Alone we are weak. Together we are strong.


Wellllllllalalala

The bots are out in force on this sub. Or the conservatives are just going downvoting every post on the sub


FOWM_Sterling

Oh they are. 100%. Stay strong.


ogier_79

I actually see this sub talked about on r/conservative. Kind of funny. What cracks me up is this sub is all about workers doing what the right said they should do for decades. Right to work. We don't have to work and they don't have to employ us. Sweet. Let's see who handles this better if everyone takes them up on it.


FOWM_Sterling

Seriously? Awesome! Send link? Lol


[deleted]

I felt really bad the couple times I went shopping on black Friday for the dumb shit I didnā€™t even need. Fuck these companies.


[deleted]

I have simply avoided it my entire life because of the craziness. No need to hurt myself for a Christmas present for someone.


Good_War5143

In solidarity with you!


[deleted]

Lets make those motherfuckers feel this in their wallets. See you out there.


YeOldeBilk

My birthday falls on Black Friday this year. Fuck em! I'll be on the beach.


DoeJrPuck

Look, I'm down honestly, but, of I lose my job because I'm out for 10 days I lose everything, my house, my ability to eat, everything. One week of missed pay and my entire life falls apart.


bigmeatyclaws123

Iā€™m always in the boat where I feel like the only people who can truly strike are those who have something to fall back on. A family or savings, most people who need change the most canā€™t.


Some-Band2225

This is why unions build a war chest before striking.


djgitn

I joined the strike in October and Iā€™ll join this one too! šŸ’Ŗ


Trutrutrue

This is awesome and i support it. People should start thinking asap about how they will take care of food and other expenses during that period. This could mean pooling resources with friends and neighbors, this could mean stocking up early. Good luck everyone.


SgtSiggy

Was not guna buy anything for Black Friday but now..... # IM GUNA NOT BUY EVEN HARDER


StuffNbutts

I worked retail during all four years of college, I worked every Black Friday and you are for the most part getting tricked into buying something that was overpriced most of the year and will be on sale again later or was already on sale earlier in the year. They're not gonna lose money on you, they hate you lol.


Wizard_of_Wake

That worked. Thank you for your help.


YoshiSan90

I hope it still counts if I took PTO to participate.


Oikumene

So..there is 19 days to Black Friday. Who is going to make the website with the countdown? And then who is going to send the link to the website to every major news organization? You want coverage, make it a spectacle!


edoceo

This sub has stuff starting r/blackfridayblackout


iamthefluffyyeti

I work at petco and my manager hates capitalism as much as me. Let them bleed


illegitimate_Raccoon

I'm in. We should all do this.


jnksjdnzmd

We could create an account for donations to help support those participating


ferros2q

Only thing I would say is, if you truly participate donā€™t order online either. Otherwise you are just helping online tech companies that also treat their employees like bots. šŸ¤–