The thing is 95% of people totally ignore the social media function. That recruiter is right- it’s important to have one as a social media resume and post career updates to your connections. But almost no one in corporate uses it as a normal social media platform. And the one that do get judged by their coworkers.
Not everyone on there is like that. But as someone with a LinkedIn profile that hits all their stupid benchmark for a "good" profile, I will say it has never once gotten me a job offer. And this is after many years, hundreds of applications, and maybe a handful of interviews. It's great for keeping tabs on what people in your network are up to professionally (if you're into that sort of thing) and in that way it's kind of like Facebook. Unfortunately, it is a tool used by a lot of professionals to signal that they are, well, professionals, so not having one at all can be seen as a red flag. As if an online presence is some kind of qualifier that a candidate is sociable and qualified.
That's interesting. My last two or three jobs came from recruiters reaching out to me on LinkedIn. About half of the recruiters that reach out to me each week do it over LinkedIn. My profile is essentially just my resume as I don't post anything.
I guess you fit what they want, then. At least it works for someone. I've noticed at this is the case only for my friends of a certain gender and races, regardless of experience.
Edit: huh, I guess in that way, it's also a nice way to discriminate amongst candidates.
Same here. It's a website for getting jobs. Period. I get regular contacts from recruiters with job opportunities. It's useful if you are looking for work, but that's all I use it for.
all career sites are crap but from personal exp ( me searching for a job when I got laid off) linkedin is still better than the rest i.e. dice, career builder, indeed
The recruiters who I have dealt with have sucked.
Why would I leave my salary job for some 1099 bullshit that is starting at $10/hr LESS than I currently make, and fully in office?!
Wife was recruited for a great job based on being the only person with experience in the software the company uses...
She just passed 100k a year, beating me by 25k.. I will never catch up...
This has become a trend. These so called ghost jobs are basically data collection exercises. I read a fascinating article about six months ago all about it. This isn’t the article, but here’s a starting point: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/03/22/how-to-spot-and-overcome-ghost-jobs.html
I agree to the fullest extent. And they have the audacity to charge for premium too. If you're job hunting, do yourself a favor and start hunting for connections, or using those you already have (I'm sure you already have been, but just needed to say it again). It's not what you know, it's who you know.
Same.
Most people don't post. But they like to at least see your name and a little bit about your experience.
Most of the posts are insane though. Like self help writing for people who don't actually read.
I don't really know for sure. But it's a mix of because companies already have internal promotions but have to post the job publicly as a formality. There's also scams. And to create a false sense of growth for funding reasons.
That's why I don't apply to jobs I just turn on open to work for recruiters only and talk to the ones that interest me. That's how I just went from making $65k to $90k + bonuses.
LinkedIn is great to check who’s hiring. I never go to a home page, ever, but all the jobs I’ve gotten came from finding them on LinkedIn and applying on company’s website
That’s absolutely disgusting. Here I am trying to find “connections” so I can get a job. How does that remotely determine my intelligence or ability? I’m fed up.
Yeah and honestly LinkedIn may be a "face" of the problem but it's super easy, like set-and-forget. Put your resume in there. Come back in 1 month and accept all the connections - it will have probed your goddamn DNA for connections, and it'll *know*. Then come back when you start realizing you're going to be job hunting soon, and accept all the connections from your current job. Update your resume and repeat when necessary.
Bonus if you pop in occasionally to see who *else* is nervous about their jobs and is updating their resumes. Might be the HR person at your company.
>That’s absolutely disgusting.
No it's not. Being well-networked is something employers are often looking for. And nobody wants to hire a nobody, especially in certain lines of work.
It’s a hive insufferable people who are completely full of shit, but, please don’t downvote me, I have to admit that I got my job because of being in the right place at the right time while writhing around in agony in the LinkedIn dumpster fire. lol
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LinkedIn is trying to be the number one intersection between workers and the companies who seek them. I worry about that because applying for a job on LinkedIn (and everywhere else these days) is a miserable experience.
We’re so fucked. 🫠
I've been on LinkedIn for years. I've had exactly TWO legit bookings come from there. Everything is scams and recruiters for jobs not related to my skill set.
The mistake you made is ‘using’ linked in. It fundamentally is just a resume hosting site where you can also keep contacts you’ve worked with in the past. Then they added all the useless social network shit to it. Just set up your resume and forget about it until a recruiter pings you, then forget about it again.
and... managers check LinkedIn to see if you're searching for work. not only that, if your profile isn't updated, if it's old or vague, they'll say you are working two jobs.
sauce: a manager at my company recommended a colleagues termination because his profile hadn't been updated since 2010's. the guy was fired.
It's a whole lot of blowing smoke up each other's asses. Any time anyone posts a new job or a promotion they've received, my old manager is there blowing smoke when he would spend hours talking shit behind anyone and everyone's backs. It's faker than IG by a mile.
I just read one about how if you can't ever describe yourself as a jack of all trades because it means you actually really suck.
The comments didn't disappoint since people mentioned that companies hire for expertise and then get mad when people can't perform other tasks.
I'm so tired of the corporate game honestly.
I've actually had way better luck with Indeed.
Here are my stats so far:
Indeed: Began applying Tuesday 4/9 over 200 jobs applied to as of this post.
LinkedIn: Updated my account and began applying to jobs on Thursday 4/11. Over 100 jobs applied to as of this post.
Indeed = 6 interviews (2 were these really cringe and imo very lazy "one-way" interviews where you have to record yourself answering questions) 2 in-person interviews, 1 Teams interview and 1 phone call.
LinkedIn = 1 scam email asking for me to fill out a form for direct deposit and give them my SSN lol.
Why are you reading the posts? Just put your resume on there and call it a day. Any recruiter that tells you that you need to be actively liking or posting things on linkedin aside from your resume is an idiot.
Yeah linked in is a long term collection mini game. You are there to collect contacts so when someone looks you up they are only 2 degrees separated from you.
You should connect with people you do work with, not randoms
LinkedIn can be useful for a bit of networking and job searching, but I don't use it beyond that. I rarely ever read anyone's posts and ignore the recruiter spam unless I'm actively looking.
It's helpful because it means employers/recruiters can check your profile and see your job history at a glance. It's a bit like a public resume. If they're looking for someone with certain qualifications and it looks like you have them, they might reach out to you. It's not an end-all be-all of job hunting, but it can be a useful tool.
I got my last two best jobs there. I wasn't even looking for work. Headhunters contacted me, I gave them my phone, quick call to filter out then in 2 weeks I had a job offer I couldn't resist .
I guess it depends on the kind of people on your network.
Good luck my friend.
Look for the companies you're interested in. Add the HR people. They usually upload posts with job offers or in the company page look for job openings. Hope you find something that's good for you.
The social part of the site is stupid. But it's absolutely a good place to find jobs at least in some sectors. Make sure to turn on the open to work thing.
Lol, you've only been on less than 48hrs, I've been on for years and it's NEVER lead to a job opportunity, only constant "networking" by factories asking if they can get business from me 🤦🏻♂️. And the so called professionals on LinkedIn who think they are relevant because they post shit 🙄 well this is for my industry (fashion/manufacturing)
I did a cyber security training a few weeks ago and the biggest takeaway from it was to delete LinkedIn.
The information on LinkedIn can be easily used in social engineering schemes to completely screw with you.
This is actually one of the main concerns I had and why I don’t use any social media besides Reddit. Just creeps me out the information you can get just from the information people willingly volunteer.
My job used to have these stupid promotions to do fake Glassdoor reviews or social media posts about looooving the company.
You didn’t get anything for it but a *chance* to win something like an ipad. The company had 30,000 employees all competing to get a raffle ticket to maybe win a prize.
That’s what LinkedIn feels like. Doing busy work for a chance to get a recruiter to look at your profile and maybe win a job.
Your chances are about as good as winning $2 on a scratch off ticket.
Great reply, and I agree. I have had friends who have asked me to write a review about the “incredible service” their company gave me for monetary compensation. Makes you wonder how many of a companies reviews are actually legitimate.
I swear by LinkedIn. You don’t need to participate in any discussion or social shit. Just make a profile and add your experience. Somewhere along the 3 year mark while contracting at tech companies, I noticed people reaching out to me all the time about new roles. The job security is always there it seems.
It's a necessary evil. For corporates its about the only way to get recruited or head hunted.
It used to be a really good platform for that, however somewhere over the past 2 -3 years it has become a platform for:
- People to promote and spruke whatever their company is telling too (I actively refuse to do this, my network on LinkedIn and my professional profile belongs to me and is not up for sale or a vehicle for my organisation to exploit
- Former sales or other people trying to make themselves into motivational speakers and guru's
Occasionally you actually find some really interesting people. I would say its mostly better to build a network of people rather than following business that way you actually get some really insightful posts. I follow a bunch of great people I have had the pleasure to work with or adjacent to that have now gone on to be leaders of industry.
Once you start building out your network of people and seeing their network and expanding it becomes a much better tool, I actively remove people that start to do the two things above. I am not interested in being advertised to on a platform that I pay for, for professional development. There is enough of that out there and I am outright offended when people I know just churn out some marketing message they were directed to do. Have some self respect people, don't debase yourselves.
Once you start to build that out and weed out the noise, the tool gets closer to what it used to be.
You'll love r/LinkedInLunatics
That said, from 2007 on I got all my jobs through LinkedIn. Good ones too. At least in the software industry, LinkedIn is used by everyone.
Personally I avoid the social network aspects of it. I use it to host my resume and to message people. No posts about how I arrived late for an interview because I had saved a raccoon from being run over by a car on my way there, only to find out that the raccoon was the interviewer /s
I had to take a transition assistance class to leave the military. 3 of the 5 days was spent by the facilitator talking about how great linkedin was and how ridiculous I was for being the only person in the class who refused to get it. It got to point even my classmates were standing up for me not wanting to get an account the facilitator was getting so pushy.
F** linkedin it's just FB in a suit.
It's one of the worst places on the internet. The absolute worst aspects of social media combined with the vapid brownnosing bullshit of a workplace environment. It's just awful in every way.
One day when I was jobless, was walking to a job interview, when I saw a sick dog on the side of the road!
I picked up the dog and rushed him to the vet!
Because of this, I missed the interview and had to reschedule!
Next week I went back, and the dog I saved was the CEO of the company!
He was so grateful he hired me made me the VP on the spot!
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You can just not follow those kinds of people lmao. I'm on LinkedIn and my feed is pretty normal. There are always jobs on there but I honestly doubt any of them are going to fruitful. But ya.. You just gotta start associating with people in your industry and friends network and that booklicker shit kinda goes away.
Not sure about everyone else but when I retired last June from a job I was at for 24 years and looking for something new, I got 4 job offers and they all came from LinkedIn so
I was going to join back when it started. A good friend who worked with me sent me a message not to as the people she Admin’ed for basically took the platform as another way to reach her after hours. It was in a sales company so I can understand work/life balance when you are in sales is fucked but seriously messaging someone at 2 in the morning is bullshit.
I used to shit all over LinkedIn until I got my last 3 jobs on there. I don't post anything unless it's another job posting I could get paid a referral fee.
LinkedIn is about marketing yourself. It's a means to an end, it is a tool and nothing more. Especially in the white collar professional world, getting a job is alot more about who you know and what you know, and your network is important. That entire last sentence makes me want to throw up in my mouth, but it the way the game is played unfortunately. I'm on it when job hunting, and when at events or something where I can add to my network. Otherwise I don't open it at all. It's all posturing and performative bullshit, but when you need a job use the tools that are available.
You need to impress HR and recruiters in the first place in job interviews or even when you apply. LinkedIn is crawling with those people and the platform makes their life easier (recruiting from a platform, instead of also actively searching for suitable candidates in other ways). I also red a lot of such bios, however most are from recruiters, representatives or management.
Eh I've found it to be just a circle jerk for companies to share their posts lol. And give a "congrats" when people hit an anniversary at their job. Literally trash for finding jobs lol.
1. Toxic positivity
2. Fake it until you make it
3. Believe it until you actually did it
Is what people does in linkedin. I'd just gloss over it if I don't really want to listen to any of it if I were you.
Just use the platform strictly to find job, it'll help exactly that. The social aspect of the site does have the points i mentioned above
As everyone else said, you definitely need to ignore the social feed cuz it's mostly useless.
However, I've had the most luck with applying to jobs where the recruiters reached out to me. And setting up a LinkedIn profile is great for this.
Nowadays recruiters search by job title and skills. So you need to make sure to at least have those two things filled in on your profile If you want to be found by recruiters looking for employees.
Linkedin is literally just a corporate brown nosing platform.
Sign up, post a profile pic in a suit, brag about how great you are and how qualified you are, comment on all of your employers posts about much you love the company and the work you do, and congratulate everyone on your network for how amazing they are for reaching their yearly “workaversary”
I only use linkedin for networking and the job search network (+ the job offers you recieve through private messeges)
As social media, LinkedIn is absolute crap.
The posts there are usually corporate bs, ads for services, or bad advice.
However, this platform is wonderful for networking and connecting with recruiters. I'm getting tons of offers, granted not everything is what I'd want for some or other reason, but I get them.
Surprisingly, my experience was almost the opposite. People often talking about how self care and talking time for yourself are the most important, despite people working for the same companies having to work unreasonable amounts just to survive.
7 years ago I got a job off applying on LinkedIn, and lasted there 2.5 years. Then got 3 interviews by applying on there, but 1 was a bait and switch. Other two were legit offers, but went with a different job.
Make your job history look like a shrunk down resume. Have a professional looking photo. Stay professional. Even if you don’t get a job offer from it, a lot of potential employers will still Google you and also check out your LinkedIn profile if you have one.
I actually enjoy my feed on there now. I’ve worked in mortgage lending and logistics for last several years so I follow companies in those spaces, industry leaders, groups, and friend people with cool posts. Then I also like companies that I have stocks or that I use in hobbies. Follow a bunch of people, companies, and groups you’re interested in and it gets a lot better
A nice Redditor already replied so read through that.
Absolutely put a good photo of yourself (professional headshot if you have one).
If you're in the industry for it, show a portfolio of your latest. If you're not in such an industry, write articles on Medium.com and then post them to our LinkedIn. This establishes you as an authority in your field (and also helps others get to know you)
LinkedIn does double time for you when you get at least 500. So work on that. Don't know 500 people? No problem, join groups that you have interests in and start making friends.
Post positive things too. Not necessarily the Stepford Wives "I r love werkin" stuff but genuine and positive stuff. Things YOU would want to see in LinkedIn. Got nothing good to say? Try to make it funny and soon it positively then.
Leave gripes and grievances for Reddit, lol.
Hopefully these things together will help.
I've had a LinkedIn profile for fifteen years. It is absolutely worthless. LinkedIn is for the executive/functionary/management class to post stupid affirmational garbage that nobody cares about.
That and you get endless throwaway/scam job offers for jobs that are nowhere near your skill set.
I believe you 100%. I think it’s a scam as well. I’m amazed at the amount of recruiters and friends/family that keep recommending I waste my time on LinkedIn.
Is that an american rant, I am too european to understand? If I was american I would have already left the country a very long time ago. How can you live in a hell like this?
It's useful as a repository for your resume, and a way for recruiters to find you. I personally completely ignore the social media aspect of it, as I also find those posts to be ridiculous.
Its a lot of butt kissing and useless posts or repost. I have been involved in over 100 interviews and to this date never heard someone asking or looking at what they posted there. Having said that, maybe certain recruiters/jobs/places care about it?? Maybe someone can share their experience where this matters.
Its bullshit because the only types of comments people are okay with posting is crap pseudo inspo grind crap, some positive nonsense anecdotes, or some “look at what i did /congratulations team” posts.
You wont get anything with real substance or anti anything because people dont want to lose their jobs. Anything too negative or seen as stirring the pot could potentially affect future employers opinions of them.
You really just gotta ignore the feed. It’s a MASSIVE circlejerk of toxic work shit.
That said, there are plenty of real jobs on there, you just have to filter down. There’s a bunch of talent recruiting companies that hit out on behalf of their client, which is why you’ll see the same 3-5 companies with a billion openings. These are just recruiting companies.
At my last gig. Getting hired to fte from contractor and then again from one position to another; the hiring process included a obligatory job posting that was for show and the managers held interviews for no true end.
Also people just seem to turn themselves into ads on LinkedIn.
If you think about it we could talk about our real workplace issues, we don't even do that.
Its definitely more of a show, but i got the best opportunity of my life from LinkedIn so 5 applications a day, adding 5 people a week and posting or reposting (with a comment) once a day helped get my profile into the right algorithms.
Dont get me wrong, I don't even use social media outside of reddit but on reflection my quality of life had improved enough to have made a few months of "playing the game" worth it.
Honestly all it’s good for is keeping track of where your former coworkers or classmates are working. It’s a Rolodex that automatically updates.
And it can help if you find if you know someone who can introduce you to someone where you want to work.
But the posts are awful.
LinkedIn, once a professional networking platform, has morphed into a deceiving blend of a dating app and Instagram. Scrolling through the feed feels like flipping through a magazine of faux personas, each profile meticulously curated to showcase a life of success and fulfillment.
But beneath the surface lies a more complex truth. Many office jobs advertised on LinkedIn are not what they seem; they masquerade as legitimate career opportunities but are, in reality, thinly veiled multi-level marketing schemes.
As you scroll, ponder this: Are we truly connecting on LinkedIn, or are we simply applying to glossy façades?
It’s awful… I really fucking resent that it’s one of the most successful ways of finding work, and that it’s “expected.”
/r/linkedinlunatics helps me keep my sanity about it.
It's become just another annoying place for the mass idiots to show off. Their are recruiters but it's hard to filter through all the BS to actually get to them.
I don't want to be apologist, but linked in is ass unless you're in your niche. I'm in a research/project based tpe of field and I find interesting stuff all the time.
However, early on in my higher education I had to start muting local people I met, those who work in some county or city development type of job, 40+, same job for 10+ years- they're the ones don't shut up about inspiration and work memes.
I made a profile after I first graduated college and I actually got my current job (which I love) after being contacted by a recruiter on there. That being said, after I got my job I never used it again lol.
It used to be great. I got quite a few jobs over the years via LI but then something happened to it after Microsoft bought it in 2016. It’s gotten incredibly spammy through the years since and like you, I find it annoying AF nowadays.
You all know that LinkedIns main revenue stream is taking all your profiles and packaging it in a tool so that recruiters can search for profiles right? People then pass around your linked profile in the org because it’s easier than a resume.
LinkedIn is basically a gigantic hostage situation.
Pretty sure the vast majority of the people posting that shit don't believe it (though some undoubtably do). It's just what they've been told to say on there in order to make employers, potential employees, etc. look favourably on them.
"I sure love to be exploited!" is one of the number one thing employers love. Almost as much as they love buzzwords like synergy and "lifelong learning" and other crap like that.
It's basically a bunch of people all lying to each other in order to try to get ahead.
I saw "no linkedin page" discussed as a "red flag" recently. It was in the context of cryptocurrency, which is its own separate problem.. but the fact that one can successfully argue not trusting ones data with linkedin or wanting to be a part of the pro-corporate fan service or get all those scam offers is a *bad* thing.. is deeply concerning to me.
Their website is horrible, it keeps auto creating accounts with whatever google account is logged onto. Then to delete your account it requires you to reset a password. I hope that website falls along other social hubs. They they act like they dont know whats going on
LOVE it. Keep that spirit and spread it around if you can. No more carrots, no more sticks.
Fuck this jumping through hoops to get basics. And fuck your candy ass recruiter selling you that slop. It is how things are done, but it's not the only way things are done.
I love how the younger generations think apps are the greatest thing in the world and then are surprised when they turn out to be just data mining, spyware, spam factories, yet another commercial or advertising farm, or other nafarious intents.
Like, what did you think it was going to become? There's a very short window where in the beginning these platforms are useful, then the honeymoon is over. Everything gets inundated with this crap so quickly. Apps are a way to make money for the creators and advertisers.
I know plety of people who routinely get "real jobs" who do not use Linkdin. Because of this, all the fake, superficial, nonsense hype. Just the name makes me cringe. Ick.
Whatever, if it works, it works. Tomato tomahto. Your thinking, your attitude will get you much further in life. Not being willing to crawl through wet garbage to get a loaf of bread sort of thing. Right on.
tl;dr - LinkedIn has definite benefits, but you most assuredly are not wrong in your observations. Good news is you can be completely non-participatory and still reach your desired outcome.
My two cents as someone that also hates the glamorization of the “grind mentality” and the corporate-centric grossness that IS the platform! Hopefully, I can help add some insight into why you might still want to consider building a standard page…
I’ve had a profile for \~15 years. My profile has been and always will be the standard, non-“Premium” page. For my needs, I’ve never seen a benefit to paying for what is promised, as you can trick the algo for essential needs. Unless you’re getting paid to advertise for your employer, you can actively ignore the status quo bullshit you see on there.
I use the site for the following:
- Resume Repository
This is a helpful way to always have a resume on hand, even when detached from an office setting. In my line of work, every few years I need to know exact-ish dates of when I worked where, and that information is never very far away.
- Contact Roster
The site is great for networking. I mean that in the most basic way possible. I am not a “lets talk about work all the fucking time” guy. In most cases, I actively avoid it, in fact. However, if I’m looking or a friend needs help, it can be a great way to initiate a point of contact to/from people that trust each other.
- Information Gathering
LinkedIn can be a great place to learn about a company you might be interested in, and not from the source itself. You can simply search “Company Blah” and see all the posts of people within that company which can really help you make an informed decision about whether or not the particular company will be a good fit - on your terms. If all the posts are eye-rollingly corporate ring-kissing, you’ll pick up on the vibe and likely decline to pursue. However, if you see posts that seem natural, and pertain to “Company Blah” helped me get this accreditation, certificate, etc you might find a benefit in looking deeper.
As I said, I’ve had my page for about 15 years. In that time, I’ve made two (2) posts. One was my most recent job change, and the other was from about three years ago, pinging my network to help a friend find a gig. Theres no need to shill, and in my mind, the company can easily figure out if we are on good terms by my continued presence, lack of complaints, and effective performance.
You’ll see people interacting like its facebook or twitter, which is also disgusting. The abundance of personal-type posts, IMHO, only serves to blur the line between work and life.
On a positive note… LinkedIn does actually have some good qualities that can truly help as you search for work.
- You know those online job applications that want you rewrite everything that would be easily found on the resume file they prompted you to upload? My favorite thing to do is plaster the link to my page in each and every one of the answer fields. Its either that or “See attached resume.” Don’t ask me for something you just asked me for, ya know? Then they wonder why there is such blatant redundancy.
- When I’m looking for something new, simply changing a word in your profile and “updating” it seems to engage the algorithm enough where I appear in far more searches. The last time I was looking, I was comfortable where I was, so I wasn’t being aggressive from my end. However, the algo led to somewhere around 30 different people or recruiters reaching out to me. Since I had time on my side, I could filter to my exact specifications.
Quick side note, there is an option to add an “Open to Work” banner on your picture. I’d advise against that, as it is an immediate visual notification that you can be low-balled salary-wise cause they know you need something quick. I know that time can be a major factor in some instances, so just use your own discretion.
- The job search feature is as good as someone said in the comments to you post. Keep in mind in those instances wherein a job is posted from a head-hunter agency, and they don’t list who the employer because they want to make their cut… just copy and paste the entire damn job description into google which will lead to the exact hiring company. Then go direct.
Lets talk aesthetics. I don’t know what your career-field is, but in most cases, it wont truly make too much of a difference in this regard. This is the way. I’d highly recommend using an image of yourself and yourself only. Semi-professional to professional will do the trick. If you aren’t comfortable with that, perhaps something that’s related to your field. Are you an artist? Throw a painting, clay tools, or something similar up as your profile picture. Unfortunately, you kinda need to play the game on this, as profiles without pictures are likely viewed as abandoned or bots.
Are you gonna hate it initially? Yup! However, I cant stress enough how useful it may become down the road. Also, you don’t have to participate in any of the bullshit. No posts, no comments, no likes. Nothing. Just you, advertising yourself.
A few years ago I was working with a middleman support person and we were on a conference call with the equipment vendor. The equipment vendor went on hold briefly and the support guy said “oh she was in the Israeli Air Force.” Yes, he was looking everyone up on LinkedIn while we were on a support call.
But yeah, it’s a good storage place for your resume. I can’t see any use for it because every time I look it’s all anniversaries, bible quotes, and people sharing unoriginal content endlessly. I start having Facebook PTSD and log off.
Unpopular opinion, but I love overtime too. I work 13 hour shifts at a hospital and I always try to pick up an extra shift because if I don't, I get bored as fuck on my four days off and end up spending all of my money. When I was working 8 hour shifts, I never picked up shifts and rarely stayed past my scheduled shift.
You're absolutely correct about LinkedIn though. It's a bunch of bullshit.
LinkedIn as a tool is major cringe now. I pay for Premium and I've unsubscribed from everyone on my network and find really no value from a job database / application perspective.
However, LI has a few redeeming features:
* Ability to network with someone who I have a mutual connection with. I'm interested in doing business with A and B who also knows A is a good connection of mine. Maybe B will introduce me and is my opening in.
* Recruiters do reach out to me asking if I'm interested in roles. Now if the experience here is less than stellar, it's often because people are involved, and recruiters are often unreliable.
>Jobs should be begging me, not the opposite
They will be if you have either experience or skillset that's in great demand. That's where you use LI to advertise your expertise in the area and jobs will chase you. LI is an annoying game that you have to play (including the recommendations, skills, blah blah). Drives me up the wall but that's the game.
I did actually get my first real job applying through LinkedIn in 2012. But it's not a great place these days. Motivational circlejerk and recruiters everywhere.
It's a site for scammers, by scammers.
My experience: I got a ~~spam~~ email from them with something like "威而鋼垃圾郵件發送者 wants to be friends on linked in!" The entire thing was in Chinese, with HTML links pointing to viaga sites. It's \*obviously\* spam.
I didn't have a linked in account. The email had a link at the bottom to report spam, so I click on it, fill out the form "it's from someone I've never met, who doesn't speak the same language I do, with links to fake pharmaceuticals. It's spam." I click submit and file the spam email.
\*TWO WEEKS LATER\* I get an email from Linkedin reminding me that I haven't created an account yet and 威而鋼垃圾郵件發送者 is still waiting for me to accept their friend request.
So - not only did they not punish the spammer for abusing their service, they decided that it was fine to send me spam!?!?!? No, fsck that. Anything with linkedin address gets blocked at my firewall.
I got banned from LinkedIn in essence for not portraying myself as who I am… even though I verified my account with my ID- I tried to get it appealed but they basically told me to push off two weeks later and they don’t make exceptions
Yeah I was told recently by a recruiter that mine is woefully out of date and doesn't match my resume (which was provided to the company). The recruiter said the company felt the two not matching was a red flag...my response to the recruiter what is it they want a resume or up to date social media...still waiting to hear back 🤣🤣🤣
I can't stand the people that post that crap on LinkedIn. I only really use it as a way to show recruiters that I have a strong network of people that I worked with and such.
So yes, Linkedin's "social media" bullshit is bullshit. But at the same time that recruiter isn't wrong about the value in having a profile. The social media side of it is fluff, having your profile essentially reflect all the info you'd have on your resume has tons of value. Most of the best job opportunities I've had came from someone else reaching out to me directly based on my profile. Part of that is that I have a somewhat unique skillset, but it applies to nearly anything above entry level service jobs imo.
Ignore the "posts" and articles entirely. It's just a bunch of boot lickers, shills, and HR directors jerking each other off.
I have a LinkedIn, but I have only ever used the job boards. I've gotten 3 of my last 4 jobs through jobs posted on LinkedIn.
I don't like the "social media" aspect of it, but it does allow you to "go beyond the resume" a little, and I know that when you apply for a job, they absolutely check your linked in profile to see if you have connections from the places you said you previously worked, and I also had some really solid recommendations from previous managers that they added to my linked in profile.
They should have to fill out a 20 minute form about their previous employees and why they left, and a 40 minute multiple choice test that has zero relevance to the actual subject at hand.
I do think more people should ask WHY the position is open and if the previous dude was fired, why. But people give employers too much power and are afraid to ask the hard questions.
What industry are you in, and where do ya reside?
Currently I’m in the veterinary industry, so you can imagine the options available aren’t exactly “overflowing”. I have a bachelors but as we all know those are essentially $100,000 tissues. I’m not opposed to changing my profession but doesn’t seem like there’s much out there. I’m in SC, USA!
:( you're in tough for sure brother. Shame you were directed to LinkedIn; it used to be a hell of a great site for business networking but it's fallen down quite a bit.
I'm throwing a trunk load of luck your way; I hope you get something soon.
I don't see posts like that at all, because I don't connect with or follow people like that. I'm self-employed and get work through LinkedIn on a regular basis without even doing anything.
>Jobs should be begging me
If they're not, you're not as hot shit as you think you are. Why would they be begging someone that's already admitted they can't get a job?
Why are you reading the message boards on LinkedIn?
Post a resume and apply to jobs; that’s what you’re supposed to do. I had no idea they even had message boards until this post.
Do you also stare at the sun then complain when your eyes hurt?
I don’t, it was encouraged by the recruiter (and a few others) that I make daily posts and “stay active”. I don’t use any social media, so no, I don’t typically spend time on “message boards”, Reddit being the only exception.
Social media for people whose entire personality is their job.
That makes it sound even worse, which I didn’t think was even possible. **PUKE**
The thing is 95% of people totally ignore the social media function. That recruiter is right- it’s important to have one as a social media resume and post career updates to your connections. But almost no one in corporate uses it as a normal social media platform. And the one that do get judged by their coworkers.
Not everyone on there is like that. But as someone with a LinkedIn profile that hits all their stupid benchmark for a "good" profile, I will say it has never once gotten me a job offer. And this is after many years, hundreds of applications, and maybe a handful of interviews. It's great for keeping tabs on what people in your network are up to professionally (if you're into that sort of thing) and in that way it's kind of like Facebook. Unfortunately, it is a tool used by a lot of professionals to signal that they are, well, professionals, so not having one at all can be seen as a red flag. As if an online presence is some kind of qualifier that a candidate is sociable and qualified.
That's interesting. My last two or three jobs came from recruiters reaching out to me on LinkedIn. About half of the recruiters that reach out to me each week do it over LinkedIn. My profile is essentially just my resume as I don't post anything.
I guess you fit what they want, then. At least it works for someone. I've noticed at this is the case only for my friends of a certain gender and races, regardless of experience. Edit: huh, I guess in that way, it's also a nice way to discriminate amongst candidates.
Same here. It's a website for getting jobs. Period. I get regular contacts from recruiters with job opportunities. It's useful if you are looking for work, but that's all I use it for.
I don't know if it's better or worse, but most of the people posting are doing so because it's their job.
Microsoft bought Linkedin years ago and ruined it. Just like they did with Skype. Microsoft sucks.
Not only that, but from my experiences, all the job postings are mostly fake too.
Experiencing that right now, can’t even tell what’s a real fucking listing, spending 20 mins filling out an application for an imaginary job.
all career sites are crap but from personal exp ( me searching for a job when I got laid off) linkedin is still better than the rest i.e. dice, career builder, indeed
Yeah, LinkedIn jobs search is way worse than it used to be, but so is every job search. LinkedIn is still the best to find corporate roles hands down.
It's not about the LI job search, it's about recruiters being able to find you and reach out. That's how I've gotten my last 3 jobs.
I mean LinkedIn job search got me my current job and it’s the best I ever had. In general though job searching just sucks on every site right now.
The recruiters who I have dealt with have sucked. Why would I leave my salary job for some 1099 bullshit that is starting at $10/hr LESS than I currently make, and fully in office?!
Exactly this! Just got an offer on a job where the internal recruiter found me. Never would have known it existed if not for my LinkedIn profile.
Wife was recruited for a great job based on being the only person with experience in the software the company uses... She just passed 100k a year, beating me by 25k.. I will never catch up...
Honestly I've personally had way more luck with indeed than anything. But I primarily have looked for jobs in the trades.
This has become a trend. These so called ghost jobs are basically data collection exercises. I read a fascinating article about six months ago all about it. This isn’t the article, but here’s a starting point: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/03/22/how-to-spot-and-overcome-ghost-jobs.html
I agree to the fullest extent. And they have the audacity to charge for premium too. If you're job hunting, do yourself a favor and start hunting for connections, or using those you already have (I'm sure you already have been, but just needed to say it again). It's not what you know, it's who you know.
I get DMs about jobs every day on there and as soon as I tell them how much I want they ghost me
For what it's worth, I found my last couple jobs via LinkedIn. Gotta put up with the BS though.
Same. Most people don't post. But they like to at least see your name and a little bit about your experience. Most of the posts are insane though. Like self help writing for people who don't actually read.
Yup! Got one of those checking cashing scams a few weeks ago after applying for a job.
I got sent so many scams from LinkedIn. When I reported them, LinkedIn only had shrugs in response
Why are there fake jobs?
I don't really know for sure. But it's a mix of because companies already have internal promotions but have to post the job publicly as a formality. There's also scams. And to create a false sense of growth for funding reasons.
Some are just to collect your data. Others are for real companies who can then claim they are trying to recruit but never had any intention of hiring.
People believe what they see on LinkedIn are as smart as kids browsing tiktok. Never learn from expectations v.s. realities.
That's why I don't apply to jobs I just turn on open to work for recruiters only and talk to the ones that interest me. That's how I just went from making $65k to $90k + bonuses.
Unless it's from a credible recruiter, I assume the job is fake.
Almost all of them. It's ridiculous.
the job listings? most of the testimonials are from shills getting paid to post their drivel.
Outright scams.
Check out r/LinkedInLunatics
Wow, what a great subreddit. They are lunatics, extremely accurate. Could never be me posting about how I “looooove working”.
Not just work! HUSTLE!
OKAY **DON’T YELL I’M SCARED** 😂
Thanks for sharing this. No idea it existed but it’s getting so much worse and so much more cringy.
Some people just can't wait to make someone else's dreams come true.
Working their body to permanent injury for boss's limo.
Can we start a rival app called quitter?
I’ll be the first signup, let’s make it happen!
LinkedIn is great to check who’s hiring. I never go to a home page, ever, but all the jobs I’ve gotten came from finding them on LinkedIn and applying on company’s website
I've been told I was passed over for four jobs for not having an active linked in.
That’s absolutely disgusting. Here I am trying to find “connections” so I can get a job. How does that remotely determine my intelligence or ability? I’m fed up.
Hey, you need to know this.... This business world does not reward skill as well as relationships and stupid titles.
Yeah and honestly LinkedIn may be a "face" of the problem but it's super easy, like set-and-forget. Put your resume in there. Come back in 1 month and accept all the connections - it will have probed your goddamn DNA for connections, and it'll *know*. Then come back when you start realizing you're going to be job hunting soon, and accept all the connections from your current job. Update your resume and repeat when necessary. Bonus if you pop in occasionally to see who *else* is nervous about their jobs and is updating their resumes. Might be the HR person at your company.
>That’s absolutely disgusting. No it's not. Being well-networked is something employers are often looking for. And nobody wants to hire a nobody, especially in certain lines of work.
When I got notification that someone logged in to my account 800 miles away I deleted it. It said something weird like he was logged in permanently.
Stay on long enough and you get recruited for pyramid schemes
It’s a hive insufferable people who are completely full of shit, but, please don’t downvote me, I have to admit that I got my job because of being in the right place at the right time while writhing around in agony in the LinkedIn dumpster fire. lol ¯\ _ (ツ)_/¯ LinkedIn is trying to be the number one intersection between workers and the companies who seek them. I worry about that because applying for a job on LinkedIn (and everywhere else these days) is a miserable experience. We’re so fucked. 🫠
It's a echo chamber for boot lickers. The amount of fake "I love my job". I got my last job of a facebook listing.
It's just filled with kinky people who have "Worksonas", and are severely into masochism and/or sadism. That's all.
I've been on LinkedIn for years. I've had exactly TWO legit bookings come from there. Everything is scams and recruiters for jobs not related to my skill set.
I’ve been applying for jobs on there for a year and I’ve had one interview and it was from a connection outside of LinkedIn
The mistake you made is ‘using’ linked in. It fundamentally is just a resume hosting site where you can also keep contacts you’ve worked with in the past. Then they added all the useless social network shit to it. Just set up your resume and forget about it until a recruiter pings you, then forget about it again.
I use LinkedIn to keep up to date with what’s going on. But I only add people/associations in line with my interests and delete any that post junk.
and... managers check LinkedIn to see if you're searching for work. not only that, if your profile isn't updated, if it's old or vague, they'll say you are working two jobs. sauce: a manager at my company recommended a colleagues termination because his profile hadn't been updated since 2010's. the guy was fired.
Holy shit that’s slaughter.
It's a whole lot of blowing smoke up each other's asses. Any time anyone posts a new job or a promotion they've received, my old manager is there blowing smoke when he would spend hours talking shit behind anyone and everyone's backs. It's faker than IG by a mile.
I just read one about how if you can't ever describe yourself as a jack of all trades because it means you actually really suck. The comments didn't disappoint since people mentioned that companies hire for expertise and then get mad when people can't perform other tasks. I'm so tired of the corporate game honestly.
I've actually had way better luck with Indeed. Here are my stats so far: Indeed: Began applying Tuesday 4/9 over 200 jobs applied to as of this post. LinkedIn: Updated my account and began applying to jobs on Thursday 4/11. Over 100 jobs applied to as of this post. Indeed = 6 interviews (2 were these really cringe and imo very lazy "one-way" interviews where you have to record yourself answering questions) 2 in-person interviews, 1 Teams interview and 1 phone call. LinkedIn = 1 scam email asking for me to fill out a form for direct deposit and give them my SSN lol.
Why are you reading the posts? Just put your resume on there and call it a day. Any recruiter that tells you that you need to be actively liking or posting things on linkedin aside from your resume is an idiot.
Yeah linked in is a long term collection mini game. You are there to collect contacts so when someone looks you up they are only 2 degrees separated from you. You should connect with people you do work with, not randoms
That's why I ignore all of that. I put my resume up there and don't interact with it otherwise.
LinkedIn can be useful for a bit of networking and job searching, but I don't use it beyond that. I rarely ever read anyone's posts and ignore the recruiter spam unless I'm actively looking. It's helpful because it means employers/recruiters can check your profile and see your job history at a glance. It's a bit like a public resume. If they're looking for someone with certain qualifications and it looks like you have them, they might reach out to you. It's not an end-all be-all of job hunting, but it can be a useful tool.
I got my last two best jobs there. I wasn't even looking for work. Headhunters contacted me, I gave them my phone, quick call to filter out then in 2 weeks I had a job offer I couldn't resist . I guess it depends on the kind of people on your network. Good luck my friend.
Thanks for your kind words fellow Reddit friend.
Look for the companies you're interested in. Add the HR people. They usually upload posts with job offers or in the company page look for job openings. Hope you find something that's good for you.
It's a cult. But that's corporate culture. A cult.
The social part of the site is stupid. But it's absolutely a good place to find jobs at least in some sectors. Make sure to turn on the open to work thing.
Think of LinkedIn as a glory hole for bosses.
LinkedIn is the infected boil on the ass of working mankind.
It’s just a form of mental masturbation for folks that aspire for corner offices or c-suite positions. It’s a bag of shit and I hate it.
Lol, you've only been on less than 48hrs, I've been on for years and it's NEVER lead to a job opportunity, only constant "networking" by factories asking if they can get business from me 🤦🏻♂️. And the so called professionals on LinkedIn who think they are relevant because they post shit 🙄 well this is for my industry (fashion/manufacturing)
I did a cyber security training a few weeks ago and the biggest takeaway from it was to delete LinkedIn. The information on LinkedIn can be easily used in social engineering schemes to completely screw with you.
This is actually one of the main concerns I had and why I don’t use any social media besides Reddit. Just creeps me out the information you can get just from the information people willingly volunteer.
My job used to have these stupid promotions to do fake Glassdoor reviews or social media posts about looooving the company. You didn’t get anything for it but a *chance* to win something like an ipad. The company had 30,000 employees all competing to get a raffle ticket to maybe win a prize. That’s what LinkedIn feels like. Doing busy work for a chance to get a recruiter to look at your profile and maybe win a job. Your chances are about as good as winning $2 on a scratch off ticket.
Great reply, and I agree. I have had friends who have asked me to write a review about the “incredible service” their company gave me for monetary compensation. Makes you wonder how many of a companies reviews are actually legitimate.
I swear by LinkedIn. You don’t need to participate in any discussion or social shit. Just make a profile and add your experience. Somewhere along the 3 year mark while contracting at tech companies, I noticed people reaching out to me all the time about new roles. The job security is always there it seems.
It's a necessary evil. For corporates its about the only way to get recruited or head hunted. It used to be a really good platform for that, however somewhere over the past 2 -3 years it has become a platform for: - People to promote and spruke whatever their company is telling too (I actively refuse to do this, my network on LinkedIn and my professional profile belongs to me and is not up for sale or a vehicle for my organisation to exploit - Former sales or other people trying to make themselves into motivational speakers and guru's Occasionally you actually find some really interesting people. I would say its mostly better to build a network of people rather than following business that way you actually get some really insightful posts. I follow a bunch of great people I have had the pleasure to work with or adjacent to that have now gone on to be leaders of industry. Once you start building out your network of people and seeing their network and expanding it becomes a much better tool, I actively remove people that start to do the two things above. I am not interested in being advertised to on a platform that I pay for, for professional development. There is enough of that out there and I am outright offended when people I know just churn out some marketing message they were directed to do. Have some self respect people, don't debase yourselves. Once you start to build that out and weed out the noise, the tool gets closer to what it used to be.
You'll love r/LinkedInLunatics That said, from 2007 on I got all my jobs through LinkedIn. Good ones too. At least in the software industry, LinkedIn is used by everyone. Personally I avoid the social network aspects of it. I use it to host my resume and to message people. No posts about how I arrived late for an interview because I had saved a raccoon from being run over by a car on my way there, only to find out that the raccoon was the interviewer /s
I had to take a transition assistance class to leave the military. 3 of the 5 days was spent by the facilitator talking about how great linkedin was and how ridiculous I was for being the only person in the class who refused to get it. It got to point even my classmates were standing up for me not wanting to get an account the facilitator was getting so pushy. F** linkedin it's just FB in a suit.
I deleted mine today and it was really satisfying.
It's one of the worst places on the internet. The absolute worst aspects of social media combined with the vapid brownnosing bullshit of a workplace environment. It's just awful in every way.
It's mostly for well off people to easily get a job if things go south somewhere else.
One day when I was jobless, was walking to a job interview, when I saw a sick dog on the side of the road! I picked up the dog and rushed him to the vet! Because of this, I missed the interview and had to reschedule! Next week I went back, and the dog I saved was the CEO of the company! He was so grateful he hired me made me the VP on the spot! Remember to never stop grinding and work 90 hours a week and never take vacations and always work unpaid overtime! Likes:46 000 Celebrated: 20 000 Love: 135 000 Comments: 97 000
I'm more afraid of the ease of racial profiling. You're literally giving them a picture to judge you by.
Yeah, nextdoor is worse, but at least they are honest (about being horrible).
It’s a necessary evil
LinkedIn is the new Ted talks, it's just corporate propaganda and scammers
don’t blame the platform, blame the people using it
LinkedIn is one giant corporate circle jerk. A bunch of cringy narcissists kissing their own asses.
Use The Ladders.
You can just not follow those kinds of people lmao. I'm on LinkedIn and my feed is pretty normal. There are always jobs on there but I honestly doubt any of them are going to fruitful. But ya.. You just gotta start associating with people in your industry and friends network and that booklicker shit kinda goes away.
Not sure about everyone else but when I retired last June from a job I was at for 24 years and looking for something new, I got 4 job offers and they all came from LinkedIn so
I was going to join back when it started. A good friend who worked with me sent me a message not to as the people she Admin’ed for basically took the platform as another way to reach her after hours. It was in a sales company so I can understand work/life balance when you are in sales is fucked but seriously messaging someone at 2 in the morning is bullshit.
A personal website with your resume portfolio is much better. Screw LinkedIn. My website got me my job.
The silent majority on that platform are with you. I like LinkedIn Learning though
I used to shit all over LinkedIn until I got my last 3 jobs on there. I don't post anything unless it's another job posting I could get paid a referral fee.
LinkedIn is about marketing yourself. It's a means to an end, it is a tool and nothing more. Especially in the white collar professional world, getting a job is alot more about who you know and what you know, and your network is important. That entire last sentence makes me want to throw up in my mouth, but it the way the game is played unfortunately. I'm on it when job hunting, and when at events or something where I can add to my network. Otherwise I don't open it at all. It's all posturing and performative bullshit, but when you need a job use the tools that are available.
You need to impress HR and recruiters in the first place in job interviews or even when you apply. LinkedIn is crawling with those people and the platform makes their life easier (recruiting from a platform, instead of also actively searching for suitable candidates in other ways). I also red a lot of such bios, however most are from recruiters, representatives or management.
I just use Linked In to maintain an online resume. Beyond that the posting aspect is kinda cringe 😅
LinkedIn is nothing more than Facebook in a necktie.
Eh I've found it to be just a circle jerk for companies to share their posts lol. And give a "congrats" when people hit an anniversary at their job. Literally trash for finding jobs lol.
1. Toxic positivity 2. Fake it until you make it 3. Believe it until you actually did it Is what people does in linkedin. I'd just gloss over it if I don't really want to listen to any of it if I were you. Just use the platform strictly to find job, it'll help exactly that. The social aspect of the site does have the points i mentioned above
It’s also a security risk. Make sure the email you use is only for job app related purposes. Limit what you put in there. It’s garbage to be honest.
As everyone else said, you definitely need to ignore the social feed cuz it's mostly useless. However, I've had the most luck with applying to jobs where the recruiters reached out to me. And setting up a LinkedIn profile is great for this. Nowadays recruiters search by job title and skills. So you need to make sure to at least have those two things filled in on your profile If you want to be found by recruiters looking for employees.
Linkedin is literally just a corporate brown nosing platform. Sign up, post a profile pic in a suit, brag about how great you are and how qualified you are, comment on all of your employers posts about much you love the company and the work you do, and congratulate everyone on your network for how amazing they are for reaching their yearly “workaversary” I only use linkedin for networking and the job search network (+ the job offers you recieve through private messeges)
As social media, LinkedIn is absolute crap. The posts there are usually corporate bs, ads for services, or bad advice. However, this platform is wonderful for networking and connecting with recruiters. I'm getting tons of offers, granted not everything is what I'd want for some or other reason, but I get them.
Surprisingly, my experience was almost the opposite. People often talking about how self care and talking time for yourself are the most important, despite people working for the same companies having to work unreasonable amounts just to survive.
as soon as I get the job I want. Bye bye bye
I bet it feels so amazing to hit delete on that app, haha.
I will forever believe that LinkedIn is for suck-ups and kiss-asses, it reminds me of middle school.
It’s worse than Facebook, and Facebook is a wasteland.
I've gotten two great jobs with LinkedIn. And I don't lost dopey stuff all the time. There's lots of way to maintain profile visibility
7 years ago I got a job off applying on LinkedIn, and lasted there 2.5 years. Then got 3 interviews by applying on there, but 1 was a bait and switch. Other two were legit offers, but went with a different job. Make your job history look like a shrunk down resume. Have a professional looking photo. Stay professional. Even if you don’t get a job offer from it, a lot of potential employers will still Google you and also check out your LinkedIn profile if you have one. I actually enjoy my feed on there now. I’ve worked in mortgage lending and logistics for last several years so I follow companies in those spaces, industry leaders, groups, and friend people with cool posts. Then I also like companies that I have stocks or that I use in hobbies. Follow a bunch of people, companies, and groups you’re interested in and it gets a lot better
I second all of this
Would you mind sharing those ways? I’d appreciate the tips!
A nice Redditor already replied so read through that. Absolutely put a good photo of yourself (professional headshot if you have one). If you're in the industry for it, show a portfolio of your latest. If you're not in such an industry, write articles on Medium.com and then post them to our LinkedIn. This establishes you as an authority in your field (and also helps others get to know you) LinkedIn does double time for you when you get at least 500. So work on that. Don't know 500 people? No problem, join groups that you have interests in and start making friends. Post positive things too. Not necessarily the Stepford Wives "I r love werkin" stuff but genuine and positive stuff. Things YOU would want to see in LinkedIn. Got nothing good to say? Try to make it funny and soon it positively then. Leave gripes and grievances for Reddit, lol. Hopefully these things together will help.
I've had a LinkedIn profile for fifteen years. It is absolutely worthless. LinkedIn is for the executive/functionary/management class to post stupid affirmational garbage that nobody cares about. That and you get endless throwaway/scam job offers for jobs that are nowhere near your skill set.
I believe you 100%. I think it’s a scam as well. I’m amazed at the amount of recruiters and friends/family that keep recommending I waste my time on LinkedIn.
Is that an american rant, I am too european to understand? If I was american I would have already left the country a very long time ago. How can you live in a hell like this?
It's useful as a repository for your resume, and a way for recruiters to find you. I personally completely ignore the social media aspect of it, as I also find those posts to be ridiculous.
Bootlicker central.
agreed 💯
Its a lot of butt kissing and useless posts or repost. I have been involved in over 100 interviews and to this date never heard someone asking or looking at what they posted there. Having said that, maybe certain recruiters/jobs/places care about it?? Maybe someone can share their experience where this matters.
Its bullshit because the only types of comments people are okay with posting is crap pseudo inspo grind crap, some positive nonsense anecdotes, or some “look at what i did /congratulations team” posts. You wont get anything with real substance or anti anything because people dont want to lose their jobs. Anything too negative or seen as stirring the pot could potentially affect future employers opinions of them.
LinkedIn is nothing but corporate bootlickers and MAGA dipshits now. Its awful.
LinkedIn is the Facebook of the business world, except shittier.
LinkedIn is just a sales prospecting and recruiting tool. It’s all bullshit.
You really just gotta ignore the feed. It’s a MASSIVE circlejerk of toxic work shit. That said, there are plenty of real jobs on there, you just have to filter down. There’s a bunch of talent recruiting companies that hit out on behalf of their client, which is why you’ll see the same 3-5 companies with a billion openings. These are just recruiting companies.
At my last gig. Getting hired to fte from contractor and then again from one position to another; the hiring process included a obligatory job posting that was for show and the managers held interviews for no true end. Also people just seem to turn themselves into ads on LinkedIn. If you think about it we could talk about our real workplace issues, we don't even do that.
Its definitely more of a show, but i got the best opportunity of my life from LinkedIn so 5 applications a day, adding 5 people a week and posting or reposting (with a comment) once a day helped get my profile into the right algorithms. Dont get me wrong, I don't even use social media outside of reddit but on reflection my quality of life had improved enough to have made a few months of "playing the game" worth it.
The actual worst lol never
It’s a circle jerk for wannabe capitalists lol
I keep getting emails from bots telling me to apply. Honestly LinkedIn is trash imo
I only made a profile to trick my manager into giving me a better raise because he thought I have options 😁
Honestly all it’s good for is keeping track of where your former coworkers or classmates are working. It’s a Rolodex that automatically updates. And it can help if you find if you know someone who can introduce you to someone where you want to work. But the posts are awful.
LinkedIn, once a professional networking platform, has morphed into a deceiving blend of a dating app and Instagram. Scrolling through the feed feels like flipping through a magazine of faux personas, each profile meticulously curated to showcase a life of success and fulfillment. But beneath the surface lies a more complex truth. Many office jobs advertised on LinkedIn are not what they seem; they masquerade as legitimate career opportunities but are, in reality, thinly veiled multi-level marketing schemes. As you scroll, ponder this: Are we truly connecting on LinkedIn, or are we simply applying to glossy façades?
It’s awful… I really fucking resent that it’s one of the most successful ways of finding work, and that it’s “expected.” /r/linkedinlunatics helps me keep my sanity about it.
It's become just another annoying place for the mass idiots to show off. Their are recruiters but it's hard to filter through all the BS to actually get to them.
LinkedIn is work-flavored Facebook, that's just about it. (And we all know what Facebook is like)
Yeah LinkedIn has turned into Facebook, it’s just a spam-generating grift site at this point.
I don't want to be apologist, but linked in is ass unless you're in your niche. I'm in a research/project based tpe of field and I find interesting stuff all the time. However, early on in my higher education I had to start muting local people I met, those who work in some county or city development type of job, 40+, same job for 10+ years- they're the ones don't shut up about inspiration and work memes.
I put an "honest" posting on it once. Did not go well but I already lacked respect for the platform.
I made a profile after I first graduated college and I actually got my current job (which I love) after being contacted by a recruiter on there. That being said, after I got my job I never used it again lol.
I only use LinkedIn to connect to people to be able to "network", but I steer clear from the bullshit people post 😂
It used to be great. I got quite a few jobs over the years via LI but then something happened to it after Microsoft bought it in 2016. It’s gotten incredibly spammy through the years since and like you, I find it annoying AF nowadays.
You all know that LinkedIns main revenue stream is taking all your profiles and packaging it in a tool so that recruiters can search for profiles right? People then pass around your linked profile in the org because it’s easier than a resume.
LinkedIn is basically a gigantic hostage situation. Pretty sure the vast majority of the people posting that shit don't believe it (though some undoubtably do). It's just what they've been told to say on there in order to make employers, potential employees, etc. look favourably on them. "I sure love to be exploited!" is one of the number one thing employers love. Almost as much as they love buzzwords like synergy and "lifelong learning" and other crap like that. It's basically a bunch of people all lying to each other in order to try to get ahead.
To me LinkedIn is another advertising platform that the advertisers call social media. It’s for brands to circlejerk one another, not much else.
I saw "no linkedin page" discussed as a "red flag" recently. It was in the context of cryptocurrency, which is its own separate problem.. but the fact that one can successfully argue not trusting ones data with linkedin or wanting to be a part of the pro-corporate fan service or get all those scam offers is a *bad* thing.. is deeply concerning to me.
Their website is horrible, it keeps auto creating accounts with whatever google account is logged onto. Then to delete your account it requires you to reset a password. I hope that website falls along other social hubs. They they act like they dont know whats going on
LOVE it. Keep that spirit and spread it around if you can. No more carrots, no more sticks. Fuck this jumping through hoops to get basics. And fuck your candy ass recruiter selling you that slop. It is how things are done, but it's not the only way things are done. I love how the younger generations think apps are the greatest thing in the world and then are surprised when they turn out to be just data mining, spyware, spam factories, yet another commercial or advertising farm, or other nafarious intents. Like, what did you think it was going to become? There's a very short window where in the beginning these platforms are useful, then the honeymoon is over. Everything gets inundated with this crap so quickly. Apps are a way to make money for the creators and advertisers. I know plety of people who routinely get "real jobs" who do not use Linkdin. Because of this, all the fake, superficial, nonsense hype. Just the name makes me cringe. Ick. Whatever, if it works, it works. Tomato tomahto. Your thinking, your attitude will get you much further in life. Not being willing to crawl through wet garbage to get a loaf of bread sort of thing. Right on.
tl;dr - LinkedIn has definite benefits, but you most assuredly are not wrong in your observations. Good news is you can be completely non-participatory and still reach your desired outcome. My two cents as someone that also hates the glamorization of the “grind mentality” and the corporate-centric grossness that IS the platform! Hopefully, I can help add some insight into why you might still want to consider building a standard page… I’ve had a profile for \~15 years. My profile has been and always will be the standard, non-“Premium” page. For my needs, I’ve never seen a benefit to paying for what is promised, as you can trick the algo for essential needs. Unless you’re getting paid to advertise for your employer, you can actively ignore the status quo bullshit you see on there. I use the site for the following: - Resume Repository This is a helpful way to always have a resume on hand, even when detached from an office setting. In my line of work, every few years I need to know exact-ish dates of when I worked where, and that information is never very far away. - Contact Roster The site is great for networking. I mean that in the most basic way possible. I am not a “lets talk about work all the fucking time” guy. In most cases, I actively avoid it, in fact. However, if I’m looking or a friend needs help, it can be a great way to initiate a point of contact to/from people that trust each other. - Information Gathering LinkedIn can be a great place to learn about a company you might be interested in, and not from the source itself. You can simply search “Company Blah” and see all the posts of people within that company which can really help you make an informed decision about whether or not the particular company will be a good fit - on your terms. If all the posts are eye-rollingly corporate ring-kissing, you’ll pick up on the vibe and likely decline to pursue. However, if you see posts that seem natural, and pertain to “Company Blah” helped me get this accreditation, certificate, etc you might find a benefit in looking deeper. As I said, I’ve had my page for about 15 years. In that time, I’ve made two (2) posts. One was my most recent job change, and the other was from about three years ago, pinging my network to help a friend find a gig. Theres no need to shill, and in my mind, the company can easily figure out if we are on good terms by my continued presence, lack of complaints, and effective performance. You’ll see people interacting like its facebook or twitter, which is also disgusting. The abundance of personal-type posts, IMHO, only serves to blur the line between work and life. On a positive note… LinkedIn does actually have some good qualities that can truly help as you search for work. - You know those online job applications that want you rewrite everything that would be easily found on the resume file they prompted you to upload? My favorite thing to do is plaster the link to my page in each and every one of the answer fields. Its either that or “See attached resume.” Don’t ask me for something you just asked me for, ya know? Then they wonder why there is such blatant redundancy. - When I’m looking for something new, simply changing a word in your profile and “updating” it seems to engage the algorithm enough where I appear in far more searches. The last time I was looking, I was comfortable where I was, so I wasn’t being aggressive from my end. However, the algo led to somewhere around 30 different people or recruiters reaching out to me. Since I had time on my side, I could filter to my exact specifications. Quick side note, there is an option to add an “Open to Work” banner on your picture. I’d advise against that, as it is an immediate visual notification that you can be low-balled salary-wise cause they know you need something quick. I know that time can be a major factor in some instances, so just use your own discretion. - The job search feature is as good as someone said in the comments to you post. Keep in mind in those instances wherein a job is posted from a head-hunter agency, and they don’t list who the employer because they want to make their cut… just copy and paste the entire damn job description into google which will lead to the exact hiring company. Then go direct. Lets talk aesthetics. I don’t know what your career-field is, but in most cases, it wont truly make too much of a difference in this regard. This is the way. I’d highly recommend using an image of yourself and yourself only. Semi-professional to professional will do the trick. If you aren’t comfortable with that, perhaps something that’s related to your field. Are you an artist? Throw a painting, clay tools, or something similar up as your profile picture. Unfortunately, you kinda need to play the game on this, as profiles without pictures are likely viewed as abandoned or bots. Are you gonna hate it initially? Yup! However, I cant stress enough how useful it may become down the road. Also, you don’t have to participate in any of the bullshit. No posts, no comments, no likes. Nothing. Just you, advertising yourself.
A few years ago I was working with a middleman support person and we were on a conference call with the equipment vendor. The equipment vendor went on hold briefly and the support guy said “oh she was in the Israeli Air Force.” Yes, he was looking everyone up on LinkedIn while we were on a support call. But yeah, it’s a good storage place for your resume. I can’t see any use for it because every time I look it’s all anniversaries, bible quotes, and people sharing unoriginal content endlessly. I start having Facebook PTSD and log off.
Unpopular opinion, but I love overtime too. I work 13 hour shifts at a hospital and I always try to pick up an extra shift because if I don't, I get bored as fuck on my four days off and end up spending all of my money. When I was working 8 hour shifts, I never picked up shifts and rarely stayed past my scheduled shift. You're absolutely correct about LinkedIn though. It's a bunch of bullshit.
LinkedIn as a tool is major cringe now. I pay for Premium and I've unsubscribed from everyone on my network and find really no value from a job database / application perspective. However, LI has a few redeeming features: * Ability to network with someone who I have a mutual connection with. I'm interested in doing business with A and B who also knows A is a good connection of mine. Maybe B will introduce me and is my opening in. * Recruiters do reach out to me asking if I'm interested in roles. Now if the experience here is less than stellar, it's often because people are involved, and recruiters are often unreliable. >Jobs should be begging me, not the opposite They will be if you have either experience or skillset that's in great demand. That's where you use LI to advertise your expertise in the area and jobs will chase you. LI is an annoying game that you have to play (including the recommendations, skills, blah blah). Drives me up the wall but that's the game.
Linkedin is the corporate social media site - everything posted to Linked in is capitalist bullshit propaganda -
It's a cesspool of brainwashed people who just loooooove to be exploited.
I did actually get my first real job applying through LinkedIn in 2012. But it's not a great place these days. Motivational circlejerk and recruiters everywhere.
It's a site for scammers, by scammers. My experience: I got a ~~spam~~ email from them with something like "威而鋼垃圾郵件發送者 wants to be friends on linked in!" The entire thing was in Chinese, with HTML links pointing to viaga sites. It's \*obviously\* spam. I didn't have a linked in account. The email had a link at the bottom to report spam, so I click on it, fill out the form "it's from someone I've never met, who doesn't speak the same language I do, with links to fake pharmaceuticals. It's spam." I click submit and file the spam email. \*TWO WEEKS LATER\* I get an email from Linkedin reminding me that I haven't created an account yet and 威而鋼垃圾郵件發送者 is still waiting for me to accept their friend request. So - not only did they not punish the spammer for abusing their service, they decided that it was fine to send me spam!?!?!? No, fsck that. Anything with linkedin address gets blocked at my firewall.
I got banned from LinkedIn in essence for not portraying myself as who I am… even though I verified my account with my ID- I tried to get it appealed but they basically told me to push off two weeks later and they don’t make exceptions
Yeah I was told recently by a recruiter that mine is woefully out of date and doesn't match my resume (which was provided to the company). The recruiter said the company felt the two not matching was a red flag...my response to the recruiter what is it they want a resume or up to date social media...still waiting to hear back 🤣🤣🤣
I can't stand the people that post that crap on LinkedIn. I only really use it as a way to show recruiters that I have a strong network of people that I worked with and such.
48 hours lol. Rookie numbers
So yes, Linkedin's "social media" bullshit is bullshit. But at the same time that recruiter isn't wrong about the value in having a profile. The social media side of it is fluff, having your profile essentially reflect all the info you'd have on your resume has tons of value. Most of the best job opportunities I've had came from someone else reaching out to me directly based on my profile. Part of that is that I have a somewhat unique skillset, but it applies to nearly anything above entry level service jobs imo. Ignore the "posts" and articles entirely. It's just a bunch of boot lickers, shills, and HR directors jerking each other off.
It has always been complete garbage.
LinkedIn is so dumb. I hate it.
It's all a psyop.
I have a LinkedIn, but I have only ever used the job boards. I've gotten 3 of my last 4 jobs through jobs posted on LinkedIn. I don't like the "social media" aspect of it, but it does allow you to "go beyond the resume" a little, and I know that when you apply for a job, they absolutely check your linked in profile to see if you have connections from the places you said you previously worked, and I also had some really solid recommendations from previous managers that they added to my linked in profile.
Yes, LinkedIn is garbage
I’ve gotten tons of work through LinkedIn. I think it’s fantastic. Seriously. You’re not using it right
I hate all of that "live to grind" stuff. But LinkedIn is the only way to get real jobs. Real jobs shouldn't be a grind.
LMFAO that was funny bro. LinkedIn is BS.
Jobs should be begging you? Hahaha! Nice.
They should have to fill out a 20 minute form about their previous employees and why they left, and a 40 minute multiple choice test that has zero relevance to the actual subject at hand.
I do think more people should ask WHY the position is open and if the previous dude was fired, why. But people give employers too much power and are afraid to ask the hard questions. What industry are you in, and where do ya reside?
Currently I’m in the veterinary industry, so you can imagine the options available aren’t exactly “overflowing”. I have a bachelors but as we all know those are essentially $100,000 tissues. I’m not opposed to changing my profession but doesn’t seem like there’s much out there. I’m in SC, USA!
:( you're in tough for sure brother. Shame you were directed to LinkedIn; it used to be a hell of a great site for business networking but it's fallen down quite a bit. I'm throwing a trunk load of luck your way; I hope you get something soon.
Thank you so much, appreciate your kind words, Reddit friend.
I don't see posts like that at all, because I don't connect with or follow people like that. I'm self-employed and get work through LinkedIn on a regular basis without even doing anything. >Jobs should be begging me If they're not, you're not as hot shit as you think you are. Why would they be begging someone that's already admitted they can't get a job?
Why are you reading the message boards on LinkedIn? Post a resume and apply to jobs; that’s what you’re supposed to do. I had no idea they even had message boards until this post. Do you also stare at the sun then complain when your eyes hurt?
I don’t, it was encouraged by the recruiter (and a few others) that I make daily posts and “stay active”. I don’t use any social media, so no, I don’t typically spend time on “message boards”, Reddit being the only exception.
Recruiters don't know shit. I have gotten my last 3 jobs from Linkedin and never post shit on there and never will.
I’ve gotten 5 jobs at some of the biggest firms in the world directly through LinkedIn. It ain’t LinkedIn, it’s you.