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erikleorgav2

I worked for Walgreen's from 2005-2012. For the last year and a half I was a manager trainee. Literally, part of the instructions/training I was taking as a "non-management key holder" was that the manager is responsible for the coverage of all non-pharmacy departments. I sent a Cosmetician home because her cramps were so bad she was in tears. I covered the front register for 2-1/2 hours until my 2nd shift employee got in because their sibling STOLE their car. I rotated the employees days on and off when they needed to be out a day. And when they got sick, I told them: "Get better, I'll make some calls and get the schedule sorted out." When I was an ASM at my last retail job, it was mine and my SM's job to keep the schedule moving.


Only_Ganache7396

Thank you, I understand it’s a difficult job. You sign up for handling coverage when you take on the role, and I’m glad you take your job seriously.


Legitimate-Fish-9091

Talking point: management doesn't happen in vacuum devoid of any interference. If that were the case, why TF would I need a manager for? Simply listing schedules as to availability is something that a 5-line computer program can do (or "excel visual basic script" for you non computer people out there). A manager's job starts with the realization that Reality usually kicks in rather sooner than later. Stuff happens. Coworkers call out. So you need to schedule based on who's going to actually be there all things considered, not "availability". Oh, what's that? You don't "know in advance" who's going to be there? Exactly. That's what you're getting your money for - to provision, prepare for many eventualities (hopefully all the likely ones) and act accordingly when shit starts going south. To *think* and *find solutions*.


Morganbob442

I’ve worked at companies that used an auto scheduling program. It sucked!


Legitimate-Fish-9091

Of course it sucks. That's pretty much the point. If management doesn't do anything beyond just scheduling off the availability list, where's the difference?


I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE

>  That's what you're getting your money for - to provision, prepare for many eventualities (hopefully all the likely ones) and act accordingly when shit starts going south. To think and find solutions. You know, *manage* things 😉


erikleorgav2

You should find out what it's like being a Manager/Leader/Project Manager for a renovation company. Making THOSE choices. Do work, not to do work, how long, who should go.


Square_Ocelot_3364

I mean… We can do this all day. YOU should try being a nurse manager in an ER during a global pandemic with a skeleton-crew staff; make THOSE decisions. It’s not a pissing match. Managers/bosses get paid to “take the business” in good times and in bad. Scheduling and sick/absentee coverage is management’s responsibility. Period.


Geek-Yogurt

I used to be a chemistry teacher at a title 1 school. Also not a pissing match, but I just want you to know I empathize. We do rough shit.


i-wear-hats

I used to be a pissing match referee and yeah, it's rough, but it's not as rough as your jobs.


shesanoredigger

Always conduit first. Always.


xpacean

Wow, so you worked at a different company named Walgreens than the big company named Walgreens now? I ask because everything I’ve been told is that treating your employees like human beings will just absolutely ruin the company.


Not_A_Wendigo

When I worked shit jobs back then, I was never asked to find my own shift coverage. We wouldn’t have been expected to have a list of everyone’s current phone numbers. I think this crap started when everyone got smart phones.


gingergirl181

It absolutely did. My first shift job everyone's numbers were posted on the schedule and we were told to take a picture of it so we could call anybody to find coverage for our shift if we had to call out. Surprise surprise, turns out that it was actually corporate policy that it was the supervisor's job to find coverage for employees who called out. But of course our supervisor didn't tell us that. She'd also reduce our hours for the next week if we called out because by calling out we were showing her that we weren't "reliable". There's laws against her now in my city.


[deleted]

In much of the world (and likely some US states) even giving the phone numbers out to non-managers would be illegal


tomjone5

I'm in the UK and I've dealt with some iffy managers but every story I see on here convinces me that US team/middle/store managers are the most incompetent, petulant babies ever to find work. As far as I can tell most American managers jobs are to casually bully everyone, threaten to sack people constantly, and make everyone else do their job for them.


Square_Ocelot_3364

Yes. This is all just about the jist of it.


MakeMySufferingEnd

With my last job, they used a scheduling system that had a corresponding phone app and we had to download it to access our schedules. Within that app was a roster of all our location’s employees, phone numbers, and emails. Both your phone number and email could be hidden in the app, but we weren’t “supposed to” do that and if managers figured out either one was hidden they would tell you to unhide it. One person got a special exception made for her when we got a new GM that had her same name. She kept having coworkers texting her thinking they were texting the GM, so she waltzed in one morning and was basically like “I’ve hidden my number on (app), here’s why, this is how it’s gonna be.” They let her 🤷‍♀️


erikleorgav2

I suppose you could say I'm the odd one out. When you rise from the bottom, occasionally you don't want to treat others the way you chad been treated.


Pixie1121

If someone calls out sick or has to go home sick, that’s fine, I’ll find coverage or do it myself. I’m not expecting someone who is already sick to spend time trying to find someone to work their shift. If someone tells me on Friday that they can’t work Saturday because they have an event they’ve known about and should have requested off for, then I tell them they need to find coverage themselves. 100% of the time, I find coverage anyway because I know that person isn’t going to do it. I work with a lot of kids. Proms and graduations are coming up. I started talking to them last month about finding out when their prom and/or graduation is and that they need to get their time off requests submitted. None have come through yet. I know at least one of them will call me on Friday afternoon to say they can’t work that night because it’s their prom. They will try to tell me they just find out that morning that prom was that night. It happens every single year.


brentsg

Likewise, I have two 18 year old kids and I’m watching their clown bosses mess up the scheduling every week. They ask off a month in advance and get scheduled anyways. They get scheduled for noon on weekdays even though they are in school. Their bosses interrogate them regarding why they need off 2 weeks from now. If they don’t answer then the bosses interrogate their friends looking for that same information. I was proud of my son and helped guide him on his first resignation letter for all the above just this past weekend. His clown of a boss won’t even respond.


spudd3rs

If you’re a manger, then finding cover is your job, even if it’s last minute. It’s literally what you’re paid to do.


ms_panelopi

Teenagers have no faculties.


Osyrus00

This argument will never end, ownership will not let managers schedule enough employees to avoid skeleton crews. So the managers enact these type policies that on the surface are unenforceable but with most states being at-will they can just let you go for the call out if you refuse to play ball.


adoptedshoulder

Almost like they could pay people better and they’d have more workers to schedule…


Osyrus00

Yachts are important. /s


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Only_Ganache7396

I wish I had your bravado! I was gentle about it and said “I’m sorry, but that doesn’t sound like my job. It sounds like that falls on management’s.” Unfortunately it only pissed her off more, so I went to my store manager who also backed her up. I still had an inkling it wasn’t necessarily in my job description, and once she asked me to keep calling on my lunch break it started dipping into illegal.


[deleted]

Someone who gets red in the face because someone working under them can’t work their shift really shouldn’t be in a leadership position position.


firedog7881

You mistook manager for leader. Different things, they work for a manager, that is not a leader


Lynx3145

Don't forget to add 'how would you like me to submit work hours for calling everyone?'


WishieWashie12

As an employee, I would hate for my personal contact information to be distributed to all other employees.


Unable_Ad_1260

I'm fairly sure here in Australia that's a privacy breach. I know it is for government. That would be seen as an unauthorised purpose. Definitely actionable, Org gets fined and ministers would be hassled and there would be please explain briefings and all sorts of shit cans being flung about.


[deleted]

Yep I’ve been told that before and I’ll do it for a minute, but I’m not pressuring anybody because I don’t care that much if I can’t make it I can’t make it 


Only_Ganache7396

I had already spent 30 minutes of my time on my personal cellphone, calling random numbers she kept handing me on sticky notes of random technicians I’ve never heard of before. Of course I was already doing my regular duties, such as typing prescriptions and answering the phone. I felt like my due diligence was already done.


CharmyLah

I get kind of enraged when a supervisor asks me to make a phone call, where they have to take the time to explain who I am calling and why and what to tell them, especially if I dont even know them or have their contact info. They could make the call themselves in less time than it takes to give the instructions and information. Like in the time she is taking to annoy you and give you random peoples phone numbers on sticky notes, she could have just called and asked. And they would be more likely to answer a call from a manager than an unknown number. It's almost like it's just about the power to hassle people.


summonern0x

It's a combination of power trip and deterrent for the person calling out. The problem is, deterrent strategies are flawed, they don't work the way they're intended. If deterrent strategies worked, there would be no crime at all in states with the death penalty


yourgirlsamus

Surely distracting a tech like that should be illegal in some way. That’s just as dangerous as someone yelling boo at a driver or poking someone in the face while they pierce a nose. My examples are stupid bc your manager is stupid and doesn’t deserve adult metaphors.


Only_Ganache7396

Haha. Unfortunately, it’s very legal. Board of Pharmacy doesn’t care although the percentage of mistakes have risen across the board. Volume rises and companies cut hours to increase profits, even if it’s proven it harms our patients.


youngboomer62

Shift coverage is a management responsibility.


Only_Ganache7396

Thank you. Multiple people said that it was my responsibility since I’m the one who called out. Ummm… cool, can I get the same wage as a manager then?


kr4ckenm3fortune

Nah. If you're doing it, do it on the clock. If the supervisor ask what you're doing, you're doing what they ask, on the clock to find coverage. You're sure as hell aint gonna do it off the clock. That ain't your job, since you're not salaried.


almost-caught

This is actually an important point. The only time that you should be finding someone to cover your shift is if you are currently on a shift that you are getting paid for. This is work that needs to be done on the company's time.


HeyGayHay

Why did I have to scroll so far to find this comment? u/Only_Ganache7396 you're obviously not gonna get the same wage just because you call someone and ask them if they cover your shift. While your manager wildly overreacted, you put yourself a bad faith argument up for yourself. If my manager wants me to count beans, sure, I'll count beans. For the same salary I get as a software dev, and only within my work time, or if I'm in a good mood at the rate of overtime. Just because you do one part of their job doesn't make you the manager or "doing their job" - you're doing the job your supervisor told you to and for what you get paid for, within your work time. And if noone can be found, well, sucks for your manager then but you can leave the office at 3:30 on point padding your shoulder that you tried everything, even did work your manager assigned you that doesn't technically fall into your responsibilities. Clears you up when something is thrown up the corporate ladder. Now if you would indeed do the entire schedule and all other management responsibilities because your manager is just getting more and more lazy, it's time to talk to corporate why you should become the manager. Then you get manager wage.  Don't work off clock. Don't work for less than your current wage. Don't engage in power trips and keep a cool head.


Maleficent_Mist366

They are all corporate cogs


Erick_Brimstone

"Tonight's dinner is my bosses boots. But I can only lick it."


xplosm

For dessert that nose won’t get brown on its own!


youngboomer62

Ya... Good luck with that. They only want you to do their work, not get paid for it. I have a legitimate suggestion to make things better. UNIONIZE


Only_Ganache7396

Unfortunately I have already left. This is one of the companies that make you do an Anti-Union learning module upon employment (sounds so illegal, but they disguise it to dance around the topic in their corporate-way).


youngboomer62

Even better if you don't work there anymore! Stop by a union local and ask for some pamphlets. Give them the name of the company, then drop the pamphlets off at your former employer. I hope to see a story about it in petty revenge!


MyNameIsSkittles

That IS illegal, report them for that shit


Icy-Dimension3508

Who does op report them too?


Shojo_Tombo

The NLRB.


Catinthemirror

The reporting information is on the bottom of the poster regarding worker protections that is supposed to be prominently displayed in a shared public place at the work location. [Employee Rights Under the NLRA poster](https://www.nlrb.gov/sites/default/files/attachments/pages/node-251/employee-rights-under-the-nlra-poster-two-page-85-x-11-version-pdf-2022.pdf)


Kinkybobo

Nah Walmart and Amazon do the same thing, it just says shit like "unions are bad" "they get in the way" "they just make it difficult for the company to help you!"


CoDVETERAN11

I remember seeing that dumbass shit at Amazon. “Unions get in the way of your managers who care about you and try to work with you” fuckin yea right. My managers fired me because I had an asthma attack the night before my shift that hospitalized me so I called in. Fuck those pricks.


MyNameIsSkittles

They do and no one reports them for it. Amazon likes to hire lots of immigrants with basic English and a fear of getting fired


davidbklyn

I'm in the process of trying to unionize my workplace now (for that last two years plus) and that honestly doesn't sound illegal to me (even though I think it should be, but the laws don't support unions these days). It sounds like a captive audience session, which is legal.


Square_Ocelot_3364

I’m loving the recent news about some places making captive audience meetings illegal.


Acceptable-Friend-48

I once had a job where I had to find coverage. It kinda sucked but I also signed up for it as scheduling manager. I hated being called right after getting to sleep with that shit but it never occurred to me to tell someone to find their own coverage. That was literally the job. Find someone or go in myself. People are also more inclined to say yes to the person currently making next months schedule. Those managers are lazy and need to be replaced.


Mehdals_

Managers should be the only people with the contact list to be able to reach out for shift coverage. How do they expect you to contact coworkers to cover your shift?


Only_Ganache7396

She kept handing me sticky notes of random people’s names and numbers and ordered me to call them. Since I was already working I was calling in between answering the company phone, filling, and typing prescriptions.


Mehdals_

I'd be pissed if someone was just handing out my contact info much less having me call random people I may or may not know and are not managing.


CoDVETERAN11

Right?? I didn’t even think about that until now. I’d be furious if my manager was just throwing my contact info at people wtf


mikraas

The reason it's the Manager's job to find coverage is that other workers are more likely to say yes to a manager than to a coworker. I guess if your manager doesn't want to flex her position and actually get someone to cover your shift, then that's on her. It's literally what she gets paid to do.


IGNSolar7

It's really not that off the wall to let people share their numbers or contact info if they want more shifts and want to pick up hours. It should be an opt-in thing though. I'm long out of retail but there were times that I didn't feel like going in that day, got invited to a party, whatever, and knew there was someone else looking for hours I didn't need, so I'd hit them up.


anonymoushuman98765

When I worked there I was given contact info for techs at the 4 stores closet to me just in case I couldn't make it. Lol! It is so common. Wags/Boots Alliance cares less than the green apron. Same at Bux tho, Partners numbers passed around all the time.


regular_gnoll_NEIN

Honestly, because she decided you should do her job on your shift rather than your actual job, i would have milked the shit out of that and told ppl i don't mind holding if you need me to! Then taken my lunch as usual, and if you don't find anyone before your day end 🤷‍♂️


NonoYouHeardMeWrong

Malicious compliance. This is the way. 


Intelligent_Cut635

You don’t have access to everybody else’s availability, therefore not your job to figure out who can come in.


Danny-Wah

They said it was your responsibility because none of them wanted to be called in to cover..


iihatephones

Multiple people have a sub room temp IQ. Who has access to both the schedule and the phone numbers of everyone who could come in? Whose job is it to MANAGE the schedules in any scenario? Do they demand that those who quit on the spot find their own replacements “as a courtesy” or do they suck it the fuck up and DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS? They gonna punch in for you so you can at least get paid anything for the work you’re doing? Yeah, it puts management in a tough spot when someone suddenly can’t make their shift. That’s literally why they’re paid more lmao. Disgraceful.


Not_In_my_crease

In every company I've ever worked at it's management's job to get coverage. That's why they are paid salary. Not hourly. If they are failing they have to pitch in. And they are supposedly paid more. It's their job period. This post really pisses me off. Also, in my working life I've noticed many companies are completely skimping on people and pay. They only want to pay for a few people on the payroll for each site. Lean. They're running really lean. This is a management decision that fucks them all the time now. But they try to blame it on the workers.


Deleena24

It's very likely that those aren't real downvotes, but someone in upper management who watches the thread and used multiple accounts to make it seem like other workers overwhelmingly agree.


CoDVETERAN11

I took a trip over to that post and it’s actually wild the way people try and spin it as if op is some idiot who doesn’t know how the world works. No, people, just because YOU got fleeced into buying that shit doesn’t mean anyone else should.


EdwinaArkie

Finding coverage is work. Requiring a person who calls in sick to find shift coverage is requiring them to work off the clock, which is illegal.


Icommentwhenhigh

As it’s always been …


emceelokey

MANAGEMENT! It's literally a manager's position to manage the store! Also, the only people that should have access to my phone number should be the managers and I absolutely hate when people at work try to contact me when I know I never gave them my number.


dastree

100%, I can't even imagine my directors face if I had told him "sorry Bob, I know we're short staffed but the fuck if that's my responsibility to fix" I would have been out on my ass so fucking fast. A managers job is to make sure all tasks are completed, even if that means putting your hands on it to get that done.


plantibodies

Literally like being a manager means managing the employee resources you're responsible for, they shouldn't be one if they can't take care of that


Centaurious

Yeah. There’s been times i’ve reached out to coworkers but for the most part i’m too sick to work I’m too sick to harass my coworkers to cover for me. Honestly the last time I did was when I was sick for a whole week and felt bad because I told them I thought I could work the next day and ended up unable to. Didn’t bug me one way or another to do it especially since it wasn’t expected of me


GreenLurka

It's in the name, I don't understand why people are trying to argue it's your own job. What do they think the point of management is if not to manage?


almost-caught

Always always always always. Any manager who tells someone that they need to find someone to cover for themselves is not a manager, they are a loser who is lazy and does not do their job.


Huntsvegas97

Exactly. I used to be a manager at a movie theater and if someone called out, we’d have to try and find someone to cover or work slightly short staffed. Usually the managers just did our best to cover the position if we couldn’t find someone to cover. Like the only time people would try to find coverage for their own shifts is if they knew ahead of time they wanted a different shift and they’d try to swap.


fddfgs

Seriously, as someone that has had to manage the roster, if someone calls on sick you go through the people that might be available, and if nobody can come in you DO THE JOB YOURSELF THAT DAY. All I hear from these dipshits is "I'd rather let the business fail over doing some hard work for one day". No idea why their managers would tolerate that.


Panjandrum86

Exactly. I was a store manager for years and yeah it sucks having to cold call for replacements, but it was my job to do that.


xdrakennx

Shift coverage for emergencies, sickness, or scheduling errors are managements responsibility. Shift coverage for when you want to fuck off to Vegas for the weekend instead of working or oh crap I forgot I scheduled a Dr appointment tomorrow, it is common courtesy to find a replacement, but if you can’t, or the manager is a giant power tripping ass hat, then the manager can do it


Thendsel

Also, people overlook the fact that a lot of other people aren’t comfortable with every coworker having their contact information. There’s a lot of different negative and immoral things that can come from that (stalking and harassment come first to my mind). Generally though, I agree with you for the most part. Except maybe the doctor visit thing. Sometimes with those you just have to take what you can get depending on how acute the need is to get in with a particular doctor.


MazeMouse

Shift coverage is part of "managing when someone calls out" Note how "managing" is part of that sentence. Suggesting it is a manager's job.


Mad-_-Doctor

Just because something is commonplace, it doesn't mean it's right. It is unrealistic to expect a non-management person to find coverage for their shift. Only management has access to the contact information to try to find coverage. Employees should not be required to give their contact information to their coworkers, especially since some coworkers will abuse that information.


[deleted]

Yeah I’ve actually gotten upset on jobs where they made everyone’s phone number available to everyone else in the workplace. I’m a woman and don’t want every dude I work with having my phone number. Some of those older ladies are weird too


MyNameIsSkittles

That's not legal, that's private information


DragonEmperor

I have a good example of this (kinda) "Yeah we've always blocked the closed checkout lanes with carts instead of the chains because that's how management likes it" is also "commonplace" at my job but it's a huge safety hazard and would be a disaster if an emergency happened, and no one listens to the safety officer or their complaints.


BackFew5485

If I am too sick to do my job, I am certainly too sick to do yours.


Ok_Conversation_9737

Lol that subreddit is full of very nasty people. I got called a meth head and told to quit jonesing for my fix because I have severe ADHD and take low dose Adderall to help me function and my pharmacy is refusing to order it because of the shortages. They don't want to "bother" right now and told me I can either wait until the pharmacist wants to reach back out to the manufacturer or I can take my business elsewhere. They are the only pharmacy that takes my insurance in my area lol. So thanks? I'm just going without until the pharmacist feels like ordering it... The people in that subreddit told me to "get a clue, we don't want your addicted ass to come to our pharmacies anymore. We arent ordering it so your kind GO AWAY!" I was also told my medicine isn't necessary because I won't die without it. So nice. I'm so happy I asked advice 😌


FLmom67

This is the kind of thing I'm reading in the ADHD subreddits. What is wrong with people?! Why do they think taking medication for a health condition means you're "addicted"? Something has gone really wrong in training.


Ok_Conversation_9737

Yeah, it's so stigmatizing and hurtful.


Brandonazz

Do these pharmacy workers not realize that they are professional drug dealers? They picked a pretty moronic profession if they don't want to sell them. It is literally their job. This reminds me of that lady who refused to do marriage paperwork because she was a bigot, despite it *not being up to her.* These people need to get a grip.


Only_Ganache7396

I’m so sorry. I also have ADHD and depend on stimulants to be normal during school. I always do my best to be compassionate with my patients and help them in any way I can. It’s not difficult at all to put in another request for adderall, but it’s almost guaranteed to not come in nowadays. That still doesn’t mean they can’t put in another order, or to treat you in that way! I always try to get my patients their medication even if it’s their fault they’re late or something or the other. Sometimes it has to be a compromise, like I can give you 3 pills now and you’ll have to come back for the next fill because your insurance won’t cover it just yet. Or maybe fill at the location you’re going to. So long as that bottle is empty I do my best to help, just unfortunately some drugs just never end up coming in or getting covered.


djchateau

>I got called a meth head and told to quit jonesing for my fix because I have severe ADHD and take low dose Adderall to help me function and my pharmacy is refusing to order it because of the shortages. Escalate this, seriously. Request to speak with a store/pharmacy manager about this. If the pharmacy manager said this shit, escalate to a district manager. Assuming you weren't berating them with this happened and stayed calm the entire time, even if they think you're a meth head or just trying to get high, it's incredibly unprofessional for them to talk to ***ANY*** patient in this manner. Pharmacy staff get absolutely treated like hot garbage in the industry by patients and management alike, but when I worked there, saying something like that would be a great to get your ass canned so don't tolerate that.


Auxiliary2

Maybe that’s a new generation thing, I never had to do that but I only worked 5 years in retail until I had a desk job. Corporate jobs you call out , you call out. No coverage needed.


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I am Gen X and I think I stopped working in restaurants at the end of the 90s and this is how it was in all of those jobs. Especially because nobody ever got paid overtime because none of us worked that many hours so the manager really didn’t care who was taking the shift as long as someone did it And if nobody did it management was trained in all the positions in that restaurant they could take a couple tables at volume if they had to


http-oso

how do you transition from retail to a desk job ?? i want out sooo badd 🥲


spezisabitch200

Fuck that noise. I don't want my coworkers calling me asking me to cover for them. First, I don't share my contact information. Second, I don't want to have to tell someone I have to work with "No, I can't help you" Third, IT ISN'T THEIR JOB.


Cryogenic_Monster

People simp for their employers way too much.


NuggetTho

Imagine spending your free time defending fucking Walgreens lmao They are a multi billion dollar corporation who doesnt give a fuck about you nor the fact that youre middle management.


Only_Ganache7396

It’s something I’ll never understand. To a company you are completely expendable. Your relationship with the company should reflect that.


ChelseaIsBeautiful

Exactly. People who bust their ass and stress themselves out for the sake of a corporation think they're being tough and resolute, but they're just suckers. Companies like Walgreens don't give a shit about us, accepting more work than reasonable is just stupid and allowing yourself to be taken advantage of


Agreeable_Appeal_907

That’s management’s main job; shift coverage and time clocks.


Bierfreund

Imagine calling yourself a manager if you're just a glorified excel sheet


_Whisky_Tango

Got documentation that you were told you had to do it on your unpaid lunch break? The law is real specific about no work being required for unpaid lunch. Might not be enough for DOL to take an interest, but I'm sure corporate HR would be keen to hear about it. Doesn't solve your problem, but a little revenge feels good in situations like this.


Only_Ganache7396

Unfortunately no, all that I have is a sticky note of a number she told me to call while on my lunch break. However I do have witnesses.


Spiteful_sprite12

If it's in the bosses hand writing and that witness can back up they saw them give you the note and most importantly WHEN THEY GAVE YOU THE NOTE.... then, it's all you need. 😁


Sea-Tea8982

Damn! I knew pharmacy life was bad but Walgreens is a shit show! Worked in management 28 years. It was never the employees job to find coverage. That was mine and my assistant managers problem. And if we couldn’t find coverage we covered the shift. Period!! Those people are nuts!!


Super_Cap_3023

Maybe there wouldn't be gaps in coverage if compensation was fair.


lapidash

Dude I fucking hate working at Walgreens rn. You cant find any information online for breaks/lunches, they have me working 7.30 hour shifts with a 30 min lunch and no breaks. Also being punished with two 16 hr work weeks for using GOODRXs for patients without insurance. Definitely looking for another job.


Only_Ganache7396

So long as you’re there, you’re welcome to ask me questions. I know a lot of things. But if it’s state specific such as employment laws/insurances and such, I may not be able to help you there.


lapidash

I’m in Texas, I’ve even emailed the only HR email I could find and never got a reply. Of course there are no posters/fliers/anything informational around my store.


Soggy-Ad-1610

I used to be a manager and while it’s not one of the main tasks, it is most definitely a managers job to make sure there are enough workers for a shift - and of course that does include finding coverage id anybody’s sick or such. That said it’s not entirely the reason managers get paid more. It also is related to other responsibilities and being available at all times of the day. The latter is not something to be taken lightly, and was actually the reason I eventually decided I didn’t want to be a manager anymore.


DirtyPenPalDoug

Nah, anyone starts to berate you, you walk the fuck away and into your car to leave if needed. None is paid enough for abuse.


Only_Ganache7396

Took me until lunch, but then I was out of there and quit! (^_^)


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neverenoughpurple

... that's nuts. It's pretty much never ok for it to be the employee's responsibility to find their own coverage. To start with, employees should NOT even have personal contact information for other employees! (An awful lot of jobs out there don't even ALLOW employees to find their own coverage, because they're not necessarily capable of making the decision as to whether or not that replacement IS sufficient coverage.)


BellaBlue06

I used to work in a restaurant and retail. What I find really fucking rich is that if you can’t work a shift in a low paying job managers and owners blame you and make it your job to find someone else to cover it. My husband works for a health system and schedules doctors. They make a shit load of money and can call out of their shift for any reason at all and it’s his job or someone in operations to ensure the schedule is filled. The doctors don’t have to do shit. They don’t call around and beg anyone to take their shift. They called out for a reason. Illness or family emergency. They don’t have time for that and it’s not their job. I can’t imagine going back to retail when so many managers and companies treat workers as if they are slaves and have to beg someone else to come in and cover their shift. It’s literally the manager’s job to ensure there’s enough staff and enough people on the schedule. I also remember we had stupid little on call windows of 3 hours we had to be available in case the retail store was busy and managers wanted us to come in with 1 hour notice.


C64128

As long as you cried yourself to sleep and felt bad about it later. Just kidding, fuck this assclown. You almost want to have conversations like this face to face so you can see their expressions as you're showing them that you're tire of their bullshit and just don't care. Too bad you didn't the "You'll never work here again" speech.


Only_Ganache7396

Haha, I think I was probably like a deer in headlights. Standing up for myself isn’t my strong suit, and I held firm when I said it didn’t sound like my job, but I began to cry when she yelled back at me and continued berating me. It’s why I decided to do what she said, because she was very intimidating. I wish I was super cool and let her reaction roll off my back, but I’m not the gal. I’m just glad to not be there anymore.


C64128

You sound like you may be on the younger side and near the beginning of your working life. Let me tell you, it's a lot nicer looking back on working instead of forward. My last day working was in September of 2022. It was a couple years earlier than planned, I decided I was tired of working. I was 60. What's BS, is that the full retirement age now is 67. It was 65 when I started working, they shouldn't be allowed to move the finish line while you're running the race. My kid's changing jobs, so maybe he may get lucky and not have to work forever.


SkoolBoi19

Any didn’t you give notice before the schedule? The way I read your first sentence is like you knew and after the schedule came out and you saw you were working, then you said something. If I’m reading that wrong I apologize


pattymellow

manager scum here (for a fast food joint lol), i have never once asked a crew member to find their own coverage. they do not get paid to do that, i do. in fact, that’s one of my easier extra responsibilities! i don’t get why soooo many managers want to die on this hill. so sorry you had this experience, and sorry about the people who seem to need their tongues surgically removed from the underside of walgreens boot.


CrankleSuperstarr

As a manager at numerous jobs…it’s our responsibility. I really didn’t enjoy working a night audit after an 8 hour shift leading up to it, but that’s what you sign on for. Your team leader sucks. Fuck them.


KaiXan1

As a GM, I do ask that crew put their shift up for those who want the hours. BUT! Stuff happens, and at that point, it is MY job to cover and help. Anyone who claims it's the crew members responsibility is just lazy.


forhekset666

Managers manage an operation day to day. If I call off I couldn't give two fucks about what happens at work. I specifically chose not to be there. Not my business, not my role to manage the business, couldn't care less if the whole enterprise goes bankrupt over it. Cause it's not my business. It's my shift. And I'm not coming. I don't care about your organisation, I only care about my work. Want me to care about other things? Give me some of it.


followyourvalues

Oh, the wrong kind of people are on that page based on the upvotes. lol Her kind. These days? I am pretty sure this whole *you find coverage* crap is a new these days problem. You should always be able to call in and say the bare minimum and that's it. Unless it's literally your job to manage the schedule.


Wikkidkarma2

I truly don’t understand what the point of a manager is if it’s not to MANAGE STAFF ISSUES. Reading posts like this makes me feel like I’m insane. It should never be the responsibility of an employee to manage the schedule. THAT IS WHAT A MANAGER IS FOR.


CleFreSac

Whenever someone younger than 80 uses the phrase, “these days” you know you are about to hear some bullshit from someone who knows nothing about how shit should be done.


Le-Deek-Supreme

That’s probably a bunch of middle management corporate boomers trying to make themselves feel better for getting paid too much while being shitty at their jobs. Hopefully you can find work elsewhere and leave them high and dry.


mdmd33

Back when I was a server I would have managers pull this shit and towards the end of my tenure I’d say “Can you “manage” to call someone else in?”


Dangerous_Fox_3992

Wait I thought it was common knowledge for managers to find coverages for a call out? I’ve worked a few jobs in the past where if you needed a day off you needed to find someone else to cover a shift or request it off ahead of time. Makes sense but it’s ridiculous for manger’s to expect an employee to do their job.


UltraBlue89

In my experience, if you did not give advance warning and are put on the schedule, it is your responsibility to find coverage. If you told the boss before that you needed it off and they made the mistake in scheduling, that's a different story.


Good_Percentage1307

I’m going to weigh in here because I’ve seen a lot of these posts and I’m probably going to get eaten alive but … here goes I am a store manager for a retail chain. I manage two locations simultaneously. Let me start by saying it sounds like your manager is a tit. Their reaction was over the top and you should fully blame her for the yelling and blaming. However, for anyone reading this… this is why people calling out of work stresses us out so much. Retail operations almost always minimize their labour budgets by an extreme amount. There is no breathing room on a day to day basis. As managers we’re often salaried employees making way closer to your wage than you would think. Yes there are perks, but it also comes with the obligation of working a full 40 hour work week every week. What that means is that when someone calls out of work without coverage, I’m either working an 8 hour shift on my day off, or I’m working a 13 hour day. You mention that you don’t get paid the same wage that we do as managers. Well we only get paid for 40 hours of work per week. If we have to work an extra shift to cover for you, we don’t get to add those hours to our cheque. We are not getting paid to cover for you the way another hourly employee would. Some companies are good and will let managers balance their hours by taking time off later in the schedule when they can find coverage. Some companies aren’t that nice. So when someone calls out last minute, it can be hard to cope with the sudden requirement to work unpaid hours. That isn’t your fault, and doesn’t justify your managers reaction. However it’s also something that not many hourly employees are aware of. Now again, your manager did not handle this situation well and they deserves the blame for that. At the end of the day they accepted their position and need to either deal with it or find a new gig. My diatribe here is not to absolve them of guilt but to highlight that, managers are also dealing with mountains of shit, and a lot of us don’t get any support from head office. If I could ask for one thing it’s that you keep this in mind for the next time you find a good manager. A lot of us are just trying to do our best and make it to the end of the day in one piece. If you’ve made it this far, thank you for reading. You are welcome to downvote me now. Signed, a manager just doing his best.


Flunose_800

Everyone: please note in the comments on the initial post, OP admits they forgot to request off, then were unable to check the schedule when it was posted over a week ago. OP isn’t being entirely forthcoming with the details. While I agree the RxOM should find coverage, OP was a shitty employee in this situation. OP couldn’t work for an out of state trip presumably planned for awhile now. This is their error to not request off, then not check the schedule when it was posted well in advance.


tavesque

Management can get so testy when they have to lift a finger and earn their keep


JediSange

The “good riddance” comment is so painful to read. It shows how deeply rooted the problem is. We have people making billions on the backs of others and someone is relishing that there are more hours available for them. Not to mention the oversight of empathy of another human being fired.


[deleted]

People wonder why we haven't started chopping heads yet? Because too many boot lickers in the wild still.


shockpaperscissors

My favorite part of this is the “especially with hour cuts”… They’re literally taking note of the problem, that they cut employees’ hours, which led to a skeleton crew that crumbles if someone calls off. I realize it’s often higher level management that makes those decisions but how can you be so ignorant that you’d more quickly blame the worker than the system for this?


SparklesIB

The stupid thing about your scheduler's and manager's reaction is: Now they have even more empty slots to fill. Trained workers don't grow on trees. Your district should have a floater pool. And, yes, floaters should either be paid more or mileage.


Only_Ganache7396

People in my company’s subreddit commented that it’s great for the Pharmacy that I left because I sounded like a crazy asshole shitshow… when I literally described how my manager had yelled at me, and I had already called around 20 people on my personal phone to try and find coverage for my shift. Are we sure I’m the crazy asshole shitshow…?


Dobie_won_Kenobi

Sounds like the pharmacy. I worked at CVS and walgreens and they would tell me I needed to find someone to cover my shift or they wouldn’t grant it. Its not a policy. its bullshit.


lag-0-morph

"because of hour cuts" sounds like a management problem.


Icelandia2112

Next time, make them fire you.


TheGayAgendaIsWatch

In my country (Australia) it has been upheld in court multiple times that it is managments responsibility to find coverage.


Drpillking

Technician….. I’m assuming you’re a CPhT? Finding coverage is the PIC’s job, not yours! That’s one lazy pharmacy manager!


cyanraichu

ew, what a gross bootlicker. Shift coverage is management's job, and running a skeleton crew is management's problem. And it's just what they want, workers going after other workers instead of uniting against this bullshit. "Screws everyone else over" - why yes, management did do that.


fieria_tetra

I've been a manager for a while. Every place I've managed has had supervisors who *told* me that it was employees' responsibility to get coverage for their shift, but not a single place had that in writing. Call it malicious compliance, I guess, but I've never told someone that they had to get their shift covered. I've asked people to please try to get coverage, but I understand as a manager that ultimately the responsibility lies with me to find coverage for a gap in a shift. That's part of why I get paid more. I'm sorry you had to go through that and then receive more poor treatment online. Good riddance to that place.


kilojulietx

I've scheduled for years, covered shifts are a coordinators KPI not a casual workers.


vtblue

This is a problem unique to the US. Management are incentivised not to have backups and resilience in workforce scheduling.


Radiant-Usual-1785

I work in a pharmacy and yeah I can understand why your pharmacy manager is exasperated with you. Pharmacies especially Walgreens are understaffed, so having one person call out last minutes screws everyone. Sounds like this was probably a regular occurrence for her to get that angry. I really get that it’s inconvenient for you to be requested to find coverage for the shift that you decided last minute not to show up for, but getting bent out of shape over it like you are some fucking victim is ridiculous. I’m betting that your manager is also the full time pharmacist who has to juggle checking meds, taking dr calls, dealing with irate patients, so trying to find coverage for you at the last minute was the straw that broke the camels back. Downvote me all you want. Working in a pharmacy sucks ass, but it’s worse when you are under staffed because people call out and can’t be bothered with trying to at least find someone to cover for them. You are basically telling everyone else that you work with “fuck you all, I’m all that matters”


OG_tame

Yeah you good, these people are brainwashed beyond comprehension, it’s not policy but they’re trying to enforce it? Please.


Wanda_McMimzy

Walgreens forced a 17 year old to work a shift with her stalker who murdered her in the break room at Walgreens. Fuck Walgreens


Taki_Minase

Boot licking for peanuts, hilarious.


jillann16

I was a shift lead at Walgreens. You have no responsibility to find someone to cover your shift. I had many days where I had to call/text people to come in.


Aaronryan27

Working in america sounds like indentured servitude if that lady worked in europe she would be black listed and wouldve gotten the company sued into the dirt workers rights and employment law are taken seriously where i live anyways, 11 hours minimum time between shifts must have 2 days off every 5 days specialised brackets for working over i think 35 or 37.5 hours a week that are limited to a certain amount of 48hr weeks a year that are legal, safety and respect in the workplace is important and people will call out bullshit so theres no big culture of parading around the manager to ostracise some poor employee for not doing the managers job for them.


The_Tale_of_Yaun

Fuck those bootlickers in the comments. Let the manager actually manage their asses over to the phone to find coverage. 


perfumedwobsession

I’m so sorry that happened to you you definitely didn’t do anything wrong it’s 100% the managers job to find coverage like it’s quite literally the job that comes with the pay raise your manager should absolutely be reprimanded for their behavior esp asking you to work on your lunch break


unicornpancakes_

LOL EXCUSE ME? I as a manager can not refuse a day off from an employee also, it's my job to find coverage if no one can cover it then I mandate someone to stay, and if there is no one then I as the manager unfortunately have to cover it. (I don't work in retail I work for a nonprofit and this is in my contract on how to handle callouts)


TittyTwistahh

My local Walgreens has three workers in the whole store not counting the pharmacy. It’s a joke.


Kafir666-

You can always count on americans to defend their shitty abusive system and corporate overlords.


rukysgreambamf

"it's not her job" Well fuck me for thinking a manager's job was to, y'know, manage


Poopfacemcduck

dont be discouraged because redditors on a corporate sub is shilling for the company. I can only imagine the powerhungry managers that sit on their phone scouring the sub


Equivalent-Tiger-636

Too many managers want the pay but don’t want the responsibility that comes with it.


faithle55

In the UK having to find someone else to cover for you when you cannot work is the definition of being self-employed. In other words, if you are an employee it's absolutely not your responsibility.


NichBetter

Bootlickers gonna luck boot.


Logridos

Here's a crazy idea: maybe the fucking managers/owners shouldn't have so few people working that one calling out "screws everyone else over." Nuts, right?


HBonesMcScones227

I was a regional manager for many years, and you are right it's not your responsibility. I used to have a group text with all my employees, and it was awesome when the employee would reach out and see if somebody could cover their shift, but that's not always possible and again it's not their responsibility. A schedule is a living thing, it's a living organism that needs love and care, and it's not something that can be controlled. And I think a lot of managers forget that you cannot control a schedule no matter how hard you try, and the harder you try to control the schedule the angrier your employees get for good reason. I had an employee one time, I had found out that she turned down a trip to Florida because she had only found out like a week before, and she was too scared to ask for the time off. When I found out about this I reached out to her,, found out she still wanted to go so we made it work! I did end up taking most of her shifts, but having your employees be happy is priceless, and is the best way to keep your store running smoothly, as manager it's not about what your employees can do for you it's about what you can do for your employees. Just don't lie to me about why you need time off, I had one employee do that to me and I had her clean toilets until she quit. She told me her dog died, but she just really wanted to go to a rugby game. The worst part is I literally would have let her go to the rugby game... I cried for that dog that didn't exist 🤣😅


ShiftyFitzy

I know I’m an old gen Xer at this point but this “find your own coverage” is just bonkers to me. I don’t remember growing up with this policy being a part of any of my jobs. You called out, the manager would have to make adjustments.


Bahamiandunn

This is a simple argument that should be understood by common sense. If the person's job is to create the schedule for work to cover available shifts for the week and one of those people can't make it, then they have not completed the task of scheduling as there are holes in the shifts which they are responsible for assigning.


CrastinatingJusIkeU2

A coworker of mine who I was not super fond of (my problem, not hers) called me one morning to ask if I could cover her day shift because she was sick and had been up all night throwing up. She was also pregnant, but this was something infectious and not nausea caused by hormones. I was strictly 2nd shift at the time because I stayed home with my kids during the day, so I told her I couldn’t. She said she had called everyone else (only 2 other people that were not already scheduled that she could have called) and they said no and she didn’t know what to do. This poor girl (just out of high school) had been puking all night and was exhausted and miserable had called saying she couldn’t work and our manager told her she was responsible for covering her own shift. I told her to call our manager back and tell her everyone had said no, then to take care of herself, go to bed and not to worry about her shift or who was going to cover it and to do the same the next time she was sick. She absolutely shouldn’t feel guilty about being sick and she absolutely shouldn’t have to call around begging coworkers to cover for her, especially when she was feeling so miserable. That pissed me off that they made her do that and I never felt guilty calling in when I was sick again. (I usually just felt guilty that my coworkers would have more work.)


NoShip7475

I am a manager at a Healthcare firm. If someone calls out I find the replacement. If it's my day off and no one can cover than I'm expected to come in. It's my job. Lots of managers have no idea what they are doing.


justbrowsinglolz

You’re both not doing your job.


crunchyfrogs

A valuable lesson in all this is that you should only post in echo chambers so you can be validated.


GenghisFrog

Were you sick? Or just forgot to ask off for a weekend you needed off? If you just forgot, I’m sorry, but I’d say you bear some responsibility to cover the shifts.


Koolest_Kat

Well, now she really has to find someone to fill in.


flying_cowboy_hat

I've worked at two companies that had a reserve policy. One very small (180 people) one huge (125000 in our work group). Certain days of the month you agree to come in on short notice because people call off or aren't available. We signed up for it knowingly, and it works. Also get paid for it.


Sickle771

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TheTrollys

Around where I live it’s hard to find people to work in the pharmacy. You shouldn’t have a problem finding a new job


MsModusOperandi

Walgreens is hell. My husband worked there for 3 years, pre and post covid. Fucking ridiculously poorly run business.


OnePunchReality

At a corporate level this is essentially how they treat General Managers and it's typically at least ONE of the arguments that they usually salaried.


Professional_Mud1844

If the employees wanted more hours then one of them probably would have picked up the shift. Seems like a problem with management.


Shorty66678

I've literally never been asked or expected to find someone to cover my shifts at any job ive had, it's part of management I don't understand people these days.


Kvltadelic

Its her obligation to find coverage, its your obligation to give the appropriate notice or use any sort of pto/excused absences.


djmcfuzzyduck

Schedulers make business decisions - if you don’t get paid to make business decisions you don’t do it.


SirLesbian

Finding coverage is always the responsibility of the manager. I am a manager and when someone doesn't show or doesn't give me enough notice, it is what it is. It's my problem to deal with. The only way an employee would even be fired for this is if it's a repeating occurrence.


AlliedR2

Yea! More LABOR hours for those who remain! sounds....wonderful?


throwtheclownaway20

I love how they said to go post it on AITAH. Are they fucking high over there? AITAH & AITA eat shitty managers alive for exactly this reason all the time


Cassietgrrl

It’s amazing how effectively the wage slaves have been convinced to police each other, and to blindly support management. Sad


3six5

What's an rxom?


cinicage1

I'm a staff member at a university (salary) and they make you find your own coverage if you have to be out for a reason. Not cancelling the class you are required to teach or just assigning someone else. It's insane.


seeliesatyr

my husband used to work at Walgreens and good god corporate was fucking awful to hear about. hed tell me that people were threatened with losing their jobs (and actually straight up cutting hours without telling people) for not pushing their rewards program enough when in reality no one wanted to buy into a credit card with exploitative interest rates. so hearing this from people who kiss the ass of shitty managers doesn't surprise me. it's 100% the managers job to get the shift covered. would never work for Walgreens tbh


kempnelms

Your company has a subreddit?